Why you SHOULDN'T clay your car | DIY Detail
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- čas přidán 26. 10. 2023
- This podcast is all about whether the clay bar...is dead. A bold statement -- and a worthy debate. What say you?
Yvan and Nick discuss our "clay towel," which is actually called the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel. What is it, why do we use it -- and what's the best way to store it? Can it replace a clay bar entirely??? What are your preferred methods for decontaminating paint?
You can find the decontamination towel here: bit.ly/FineGradeClayTowel
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I’ve been using the PSDT and is simply just Awesome! Soo glad I purchased this! It makes my life so much easier and happy! Thanks for making great products!
You are so welcome!
I had a bit of a dyslexic moment. When I saw "PSDT" I swear I saw "PTSD" 😂😂😂
@@albaker2938 ...Me too.
Great news! I've been waiting to place my order for that clay towel and other of your fine products!!!
A bonus releasing this informative video as you inform me that it's time to order👍
Awesome! Thank you!
I had a mouse nibble the end of my legacy sponge. Still works fine, but o bough a second one last week, just because. lol
Thank you
Thank you! Recently did my Z and used your advice about going slower with less pressure or no pressure on the torq buffer and the car turned out amazing with just about 9-10 hours of polishing with Sonax finishing polish…
I split it into two days… car looks amazing with Evo Pure - ZERO issues applying/removing…
Glad it helped
Love this towel. Use it all the time either in the wash bucket with rinseless wash, or with iron remover. The surfaces of my vehicles are slick!
Thanks for sharing!
Both!! I just used the Towel today on my grandmas Buick and it turned out amazing. The last 80 degree day had to get a wash/decon/protect for her. She lives in the city and only has a car port. The fall out and contamination was really heavy and she never drives any more. The weird thing is after Iron remover/towel it made the paint bead and sheet again on one side. So it had to be coated at the dealer bc I've never protected it.
Excellent, it’s great your taking care of your grandmother’s car!
I bought a cheap synthetic clay mitt off Amazon, didn't realize the corners are sharp, and put at least a dozen shallow scratches all over my clearcoat! Had to wetsand to take them out!
Since clay bar is vastly cheaper than a >quality< clay mitt, I personally will be sticking with clay bars for the forseeable future.
Sorry that happened. A quality clay towel will do the work of 50 or more clay bars.
@@diydetailofficial Any plans to make a mitt rather than a towel? When I run out of clay bar I'll be looking for a more permanent solution, but a mitt is much easier for people with hand problems.
If you fold the towel into quarters it's nearly a non issue. If you use the towel as a whole one piece it's much harder to hold. A quartered clay towel will also provide more cushion than a mitt (fingers pressing down with mitt)
@@lakestevensautodetailing Thanks. I may have to give that a try once I run out of clay bar.
Kevin Kennedy
With the clay towel, can you use it with other iron, removers.
You will need to test
Hi guy's, I've just bought your PSDT towel. Soaked it in rinceless wash, then used it on the windows first. Should it feel stiff when using it and it sounds noisy on plastic trims. Should it?
Thanks guy's
Dave
Yes
What specs do you look for in a compressor? I’m currently running a 2.4 cfm 6 gal. pancake compressor and I’m wondering if this is enough for detailing applications.
Ideally 20% more cfm than your most air hungry tool consumes
Kevin Kennedy
Wanted to as if you can use any other clay lube with your towel.
Yes , but test for compatibility first
I just bought a bunch of products from you guys and it’s coming tomorrow 👍😁
Hope you enjoy them.
I already have a bottle of Adams iron remover I'd like to use before I buy your product, can I still use your decon towel and do the process with Adams iron remover? Or will it mess up the towel? I wouldnt think it would but just want to clarify. thanks
We haven’t tested it. Try asking in our Facebook group
Https://bit.ly/DIYDetailFacebookGroup
Can we use the clay towel to prep for coating whether its highly contaminated or not?
Or is it only a for maintenance?
Yes you should use it as prep.
I used a similar towel(rag company) and it marr soft paint. I used it on a black Subaru. I’m guessing the PSD is very similar. Still love this towel.
Ours is less agressive.
I used the PFDT on my parents silver car with iron remover using the method you suggest, but I couldn't get rid of those orange brake dust dots after a few passes. I just gave up and left them there. I was afraid to marr the paint and wasn't gonna have time to polish. Wish I had known it was ok to keep going until it was gone. I ceramic coated it with the 5 year. Will those orange dots damage the paint now that they've been sealed in?
No, they are fine
@@diydetailofficial Oh that's great to know. Thank you for always helping!
I like the look of your products but live in the Uk when are your products going to be available over here
They are available
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
How well would the new DIY Waterless wash work with the decontamination towel to remove embedded substances on a ceramic coated vehicle?
Not a very good lube compared to Rinseless Wash, Iron Remover …and Ceramic Gloss/Quick Beads if you’re looking to decontaminate and protect in one step.
Thank you for the video. I have developed a hobby of detailing my car and wife's. I only recently heard of claying and it's sounds intimidating.
With the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel , no stress
Interesting thanks for. Explaining. I’ve never used a towel.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Guys, I know that your Clay towel was designed to be used with your DIY products, but it can be used with any iron decon product that can be used over panels?
Also, when rinseless and clay towel will be restocked?
You will have to test with your Iron Remover, no guarantees. We are hoping later this week, once the warehouse transition is complete 🤞
I'm never used clay bar the best way for me through years is Pre wash spray good video guys greetings from Brussels Belgium 🇧🇪
Thanks for sharing!
Wheels Yvan! Forgot to cover claying wheel barrels. Do you recommend using a regular clay bar for that?
You can if you wish.
can we apply the same logic with the clay towel that abrade the paint to remove contamination without abrading it, to also any a new technology that polishes paint without polishing agents, or any new compound that can cut paint without cutting abrasives?
Thanks, great video again sir, keep up. My best regards
Unfortunately abrasives are still needed for some operations
@@diydetailofficial thanks sir. Have a great weekend,
Is it ok to use this on a coated windshield for bugs?
Yes!
My PSD towel didn't come in a container when I purchased it so I'll stick to the parchment paper, folded in quarters and put in a zip lock. 😂 Thanks for the great podcast as always!
Now it’s come in container…always for a better solution
Yeah, that's awesome! I might buy some more to give to family and friends that way they can help me when I coat their vehicles for them. 😅
How to remove road tar? Is the PSDT works?
No, use DIY Detail Tree Sap remover and a disposable MF towel.
Yyan / Nick, Can we buy this Devon towel in New Zealand? The CarCare Co in Australia do not service orders from New Zealand.
We will have a distributor in New Zealand soon. Please keep an eye on this list
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
is the decon towel safe to use on PPF?
Yes
I have detail chemical from a couple other companies...can I use those as a lube for the decon towel?>
Depends on what it is. You will need to test compatibility.
Keep it coming 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Will do!!
i live in condo. cannot wash on site. i use car wash. can i use the clay towel with rinseless wash on a dry car. must i dump towel in water first?
After washing just pre spray the panel with Rinseless, then use Rinseless Wash in a bucket (diluted 256:1), with towel in there, and use the Rinseless Wash as your "clay lube" so take the towel out of the bucket and no pressure, folded towel, on the wet panel. when done go ahead and dry with something like Ceramic Gloss as a drying aid. I would pre spray panel right before you decontaminate, so work panel by panel
thanks for reply. As alternative, can I after wash just use a waterless wash product with the clay towel?
You would have to use an excessive amount .
How do you clean the Decon Towel? I'm worried small particles will remain caught in it over time and accumulate.
Simply rinse it out.
@@diydetailofficialok great. I'll get one for sure once it restocks. BTW, "Decon Towel" sounds a lot better than "Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel" or "Clay Towel "
Excellent, they will be back in stock later today
Off topic but any plans for rinseless with protection added?
Not yet.
How do you know when the towel in broken in?
It only takes a few seconds.
Is the DIY detail decontamination towel the same as the p&s towel ? looks the same .
No, the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel is less agressive, and more flexible.
What if you have ceramic pads? Would that reduce or slow down contaminant build up? I moved into an apartment a few months ago and have discovered rinseless, equipment is on order (I went with P&S Absolute as it's easy to source in the UK where I'm based) looking forwarded to getting started, I'm an avid weekend warrior detailer, but I haven't washed my own car since moving in. I've been using a reasonably good valet service, but noticed some light swirl marks in my piano black trim the other day, body should be in good condition still as it's ceramic coated (for the record, I have a 2018 Golf GTI)
The contamination comes not only from your vehicle, but those around you in traffic. Having it coated will definitely help in reducing the amount of contamination.
We have several stockists of DIY Detail in the UK
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
@@diydetailofficial I'm totally sold on the brand, I think your expertise is self evident. I have some P&S Beadmaker that I want to use up before moving onto Quickbeads, I take it that can be substituted, as per your wash, clay, seal method? Love the time efficiency factor by the way
@SilverShamrock71 thank you, yes it can.
@@diydetailofficial Cool, thanks for confirming. Looking forward to checking out more of your product range and methodologies
Might gotta try dis
Thank you
Im not a big fan of traditional clay bars today as they are abrasive and they hang on to everything. Whilst rubber polymer clay towels and mitts dont seem to make the paint as smooth as a bar, the marring from most clays are a pita. What are your thoughts of kaopolite sf powder to make a liquid clay like the diamondite spray clay from 2006? i have 2kg of kaopolite sf powder in my garage to make a liquid clay. It may still be abrasive and marr so maybe not the way to go. I prefer removing the iron before i use a towel. Pure personal choice. In the future we need a coating that repels fallout like two magnets repelling each other so we dont get any but thats something probably decades away or never possible. Its easily removable with chemicals anyway
The koapolite powder you have is quite abrasive. Iron removers actually do not remove the iron particles , but the rust stains. Most coatings are actually resistant to fall out, but the metal particles from brakes actually melt the clear coat slightly.
@@diydetailofficialthe kaopolite would be a liquid version of a clay bar so the liquid is the clay and an applicator sponge or mitt would spread it around. Its not for dissolving iron as such. But im no expert on it
Realise this isnt an 'on PSD towel message' question ( I already have one - its awesome, buy one if you havent already) - when you are polishing ahead of ceramic coating, do you machine polish the windows? Does machine polishing cause micro marring on glass?
Yes do the windows.
Yes polish the windows. If you clean your pads and the glass, no stress about micro marring.
The only claybars I ever liked are Japanese patented gray variety. I used synthetic an was like ohhh these bars are terrible at removing grit on paint. I don’t believe if a claybar is dropped on the ground it’s no longer usable as other people make this out to be always the case. The claybar has to be sitting on that surface for a while a the weight of the bar embeds the debris. The user of the claybar has to be quick an never work on a dirty shop floor. That’s also key to keeping the shop floor regularly clean. A clay bar can scratch the paint which is true on soft painted surfaces it’s best to test a small area to not go swiping the surfaces especially an unfamiliar vehicle.
Thank you
If your towel doesn’t have any Abrasives how does it take off the contamination
The polymer surface pulls the contaminants out.
What about wrapping the towel around the sponge to keep from applying too much pressure?
You can, but simply folding the towel is sufficient.
Agreed that's what I do, just a thought for others that might be concerned about too much pressure @@diydetailofficial
@@brianjohnston7344 thank you
Why is it any different than the wash mitt? A wash mitt is mechanical cleaning, so why would this cloth be any different?
It has a polymer surface that removes embedded contaminants from the paint that a wash mitt can’t.
Very much obliged sirs. What about a clay mitt?
The design of the surface is important
Aw man, i just made an order yesterday and the clay mitt was out of stock 😢
Thank you
I gotta be honest , clay bars scare the hell out of me, especially when said it will put light marring/scratches on the paint . Guess the anxiety don’t help since I’m a novice polisher as well.
The Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel is much safer.
Another awesome Video guys really appreciate the wisdom, am keen to add this amazing tool to my detailing kit. just for comparative purposes how do you rate the rag company’s clay scrubber pads? cheers guys.Duncan
They are a great product as well, but slightly more agressive.
Right on this.. just as I ordered a clay towel 😂
Once you watch it, you won’t regret your purchase
I suppose for heavy overspray
But the psd towel hasn't led me astray thus far
Thank you
I’d love to see you demo this:
I’m a professional detailer and own both claybars and clay towels and in the rare occasion that I get any marring 9/10 times it’s the clay towel that does it, not the claybar.
Not only that, but the clay towels don’t do as good of a job at removing heavy contaminants.
Please prove me wrong. Do a 50/50 on the same car?
Great idea, do you have our perforated synthetic decontamination towel? Or are you using another brand
@@diydetailofficial Nanoskin Medium Grade Claymitt.
As far as clay I use Meguiars C2100 Professional Aggressive Clay 9/10 times and it’s super rare for it to marr paint.
Unfortunately yes that mitt has a high risk of marring. When it wears out give our Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel a try.
I love how DIY Detail products are counter imtuitive some times, but that's because they actually simplify the process. I used to be afraid of rinsless, but I'm definitely trying the Rinsless Wash + Ceramic Gloss (and PSD Towel) combo. When you mentioned the panel by panel method I just thought how much faster the whole wash can be.
Thank you
Incredible suds
Thank you
My towel was just in a bag, no container 😢
The new ones are in a container
Decontamination towel or fine clay towel?
Our Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel is sold as a clay towel in order to allow people to find it.,
So it would be better than a fine clay towel?
Our Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel is considered ultra fine since it contains no abrasive
I already use a fine clay towel. Recently put on diy ceramic coating so my fine clay towel should be fine for the 6 month maintenance?
@@taylorwatson5020 you will need to test.
I have to watched it a week ago.. I made scratch whole car by cheap clay bar then spent $600 for 2stage polish. Please don’t do your self if you are not a professional
With our products and techniques you can do it yourself safely
Incredible Suds
Good eye!
Soft black paint, will it mare that's the question.
I used a similar towel(rag company) on soft black paint and it marr the paint.
We have used it on very soft paint with no issues.
In Thailand your clay towel gonna be 65$🤣 l would love to buy that but pretty expensive shipping cost😆💀
I'm just 2 states away from DIY and it's $15 😂 Feel your pain my friend.
We are working on finding local distributors.
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
In the continental USA, shipping is included over $100
Will your products eventually be available on Amazon?
Yyan / Nick, Can we buy this Devon towel in New Zealand? The CarCare Co in Australia do not service orders from New Zealand.
TGIF!🎉
Thank you
Yet to watch the video but clay bars have never made sense to me. They say you can clay 4 or 5 cars with a clay bar. So, you are going to drag all the debris and crap of the 3 or 4 previous cars over the current car and that's supposed to help the paintwork? Clay towels have always been superior. And now to watch the video...
Agreed.
Rinseless 4 Life!
Thank you
The word Clay towel is very misleading. If this towel does not have any clay or chemicals to remove embedded particles, i find it hard to believe that anything is being removed because of the waffle structure. I wish another reputable car detailer would comment on its use. Sorry to be so pessimistic.
Synthetic “clay” towels have been available for over 15 years. The term “clay towel “ is the industry accepted terminology for a Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel. Read the other comments of this video, many thousands of people are very satisfied with it.
I thought the same thing until I tried synthetic clay but it actually works and they aren't the first company to sell it... Personally, I enjoy clay bars just because I've been using them for so long. Try it for yourself, it's not like they are asking you to spend 100k, it's cheap .
@@theloosemoose8200 thanks for your honest reply. I will give it a try.
Suck it up butter cup
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Rinseless.
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