Working And Grouting Ball Chain And Beads
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2021
- Using ball chain and beads in a mosaic can look awesome but what do you adhere them down with and how do you grout them? When using 2 part apoxies separate tools are required to avoid cross contamination this was not reflected in the video. :)
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Hello Peter, Elaine here from the 🇺🇸 USA. I’m a beginner and I can’t tell you how much your videos have help me! Thank you so very much!! Wish you lived here so I could take classes from you. Please keep your videos coming so I can continue to learn from you! Thank you again Peter and I very much look forward to seeing your next videos!
Aww Thankyou so much Elaine really appreciate it. It’s fun taking classes and there may be a few near you that you could join, Thankyou for watching.
A good excuse to go to Australia!! Lol Do you give classes Peter? (Of course, after CV when it is safe.). You are a good teacher. I would love to see some of your finished pieces at the end of each video.
@@sunshinejenny5536 Thankyou so much appreciate that, I dont give classes. :)
Beautiful !!!! Thank yu. Gracias
Thankyou and my pleasure Angela. :)
Thank you, Peter! Much appreciated!!!
My pleasure and thankyou for watching. :)
So pretty! Very helpful video, thank you!
Thankyou so much, appreciate it. :)
Very pretty!
Thanks heaps for that. :)
Oh my gosh, your work is so amazing and outstanding. This bird is so awesome!
Thankyou so very much, appreciate that Dee and thanks so much for watching. :)
Thank you so much for the video. Very helpful with the ball and chain. Your piece turned out beautiful ❤️
Thankyou so much Anna, appreciate that and thankyou for watching. :)
thank you Peter! i often see beads embedded in grout and couldn't work out how it is made, now i know!
Thanks Cinde glad I could help. :)
Thank you for so graciously sharing what you’ve learned along the way. The blue-tack is brilliant, I’ve already ordered some! Peace
Thankyou very much and thankyou for watching. :)
Very helpful- great video thanks for sharing
Thanks so much appreciate that Jay and thankyou for watching. :)
Wowwww - mindblowingly lovely 😍
Thankyou so much Rupa, appreciate that. :)
Wonderful - thanks Peter... I now have a 4mm iridised ball chain as well!
My pleasure, loved all the ball chain. :)
This was so awesome to watch what you did. It turned out beautiful! Tfs👍🤗
Thankyou very much, appreciate that. :)
You work is so,lovely
Thankyou so much Sunday, appreciate that. :)
I'm confident now in using the beaded pearl strands, and will try the ball chain too. Thank you!
My pleasure and thankyou. Just be aware that not all beads are equal and the surface of the bead can be removed when grouting so dont shop on price in choosing beads and tell the supplier what you are planning to do so he can suggest the best ones to suit the process. :)
@@TreasuryRoad Thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't have thought to tell the seller what I'm using their product for. Makes sense - they want happy, successful customers (and return business). Stay safe.
Should I be looking for copper ball chain?
@@PCHPatti Copper can also get a patina on it, just explain to the supplier what you're going to be using it for and he should be able to advise you regarding his products it also depends if the ball chain has a protective finish on it so I cant really advise you on an individual product as there are so many suppliers. :)
Very helpful video. Thank you so much.
I find that using an old toothbrush can help make cleanup faster
Thanks so much Karen, yes you are right and they do work quite well and are not expensive. Thankyou very much for watching. :)
Thank you for the great video! Would you use waterproof epoxy sculpt for chain on outside pieces? I’m thinking about decorative garden stones with ball chain and glass. I’ve had some issues with ball chain and silicone.
Thankyou so much. You can use ball chain and apoxie sculpt together outside however unless the ball chain is stainless steel it will rust and even then stainless steel may rust or get a patina as there are different qualities on the market but stainless is a lot less likely :)
Instead of epoxy sculpt could you use thin set, mixed to a thicker consistency? What is your substrate, foam or wood? Or perhaps would the water in the thin set affect the "stainless" quality of the ball chain? Sanded or unsanded grout?
Thinset can be quite messy for delicate work whereas the Apoxie Sculpt is perfect, easier to work with and a lot faster in this instance. The substrate is wood and I used Laticrete Permacolour sanded grout. Stainless steel has high in corrosion resistance but I would think the high alkaline content of the thinset would be just too much and attack it. Thanks for watching. :)
Thank you so much. I never thought to use the epoxy sculpt for the ball chain to hold it in place. Brilliant!
Can I ask if why you chose epoxy sculpt for the tesserae as an adhesive instead of glue? Was it to stay consistent since you used it with the chain ? Or do you prefer epoxy sculpt with ‘China’ ?
Thank you in advance.
Thankyou very much, I do use glue at times for china but since I was already using epoxy clay I thought I would just stick with it (pardon the pun lol ), also if your china is not totally flat then there is less surface area for glue to adhere to, the Apoxie clay solves that issue. I prefer to use glue where I can instead of Apoxie Clay.
You made mention of a resource for the multi-colored ball chain. Please tell me where to look for that info. Thank you.
Dee the multi coloured ball chain you can purchase from Merlin Mosaica. A great selection on 2 pages. Thanks for watching. :) merlinmosaica.com/product-category/embellishments/ball-chain/
Pretty. Normally, would you work from the inside out?
Thankyou. This bird was not meant to see the light of day as it was used in another video demonstrating apoxie clay but thought I would just use it for this video. I normally lay the ground work for the important areas, the accents, then I fill in the blank areas with the tess. If I was mosaiking the sides I would have done them first and then the face of the bird that way the join between the side tess and face tess would be on the side rather than on the face of the bird which makes it look neater. In the case of using beads or ball chain thats going around the outside I would do that first as it gives you an outline to work with and allows you to cut the tess to it which is easier than trying to add the beads or ball chains last. If I was mosaking the sides I would do that first then the outside beads or ball chain on the front of the bird. :)
Hi Peter. Im just starting out with glass on rock. AS the rocks are uneven I was thinking of using the Apoxie Sculpt clay but have just found out how expensive it is. Just wondering can you use a cheaper version or some other glue.. thanks
Hi Vivienne, it is expensive but very useful, you could look at using a cement based adhesive (thinset in the USA) to level the area, there are different ones so just make sure it suits the materials you're using. You could also look for more even flatter rocks which would save you the extra work. :)
Hi Peter! I tried to attach ball chain to a GOG project I’m working on. I used GE silicone (clear) and after 2 weeks I can still wiggle the ball chain. I’m new and really don’t know what I’m doing😅. What else can I use to adhere the ball chain to glass? Thank you so much!!
Hi Deni, this video says it all, the product in this is what I use. :)
Hi Peter, do you need to wait for 24 hours until AS get cured completely then do the grout?
Hi Mozhdeh, I prefer to wait 24hrs before grouting with AS, sometimes longer on other products. :)
Another great video Peter. Can I ask where you can purchase the epoxy clay from? I only seem to be able to find it on Amazon US
Thankyou so much. It depends what country you are in, the company here in Australia where I used to buy it doesn't stock it any longer so when mine runs out I may have an issue as I buy the large containers and not the small. Taxidermy companies also sell it or you could contact Aves but there are also other brands out there in the market place. :)
@@TreasuryRoad many thanks. I do live in Melbourne and will now be keen to try this technique out.
@@vicbowler The process really does shine in situations like this one. I just Google the product and there are many sellers of the product and buy the natural coloured one as it adheres better than the coloured ones.:)
@@TreasuryRoad thanks again Peter. I was trying to find a supplier in Australia. Most were from the US. one was caharging $80 delivery for a relatively small quantity. I have ended up ordering from Amazon and look forward to using the ball chain and your technique in my sculpture. Your advice is invaluable.
@@vicbowler Thankyou very much appreciate that.:)
Oiy!!! Using the same gloves from Part A to Part B? Cross contamination? I ruined my Apoxie Sculpt by doing that and had to throw out half of the unused containers. An expensive lesson for what NOT to do. I use separate spatulas now for each part.
Thankyou so much. Yes you are correct that is the right way. I have used heaps and never had that issue of cross contamination at all. I can only think that their must have been a reasonable amount on your gloves to cause the cross contamination where you had to throw it away. But you are right and you've bought up a fair point, I will use separate tools moving forward and will also add that in the description of the video as well. Appreciate the comment. :)
Hi Peter, what is the name of cutter for cutting ball chain?
Hi Mozhdeh, they are called flush cutters and I imported them from the USA although they would be out here as well. The ball chain is really quite hard as its very good quality so I would probably cut them with a pair of small wire cutters instead which are very easy to come by. :)
Do you know if any of those are rustproof? I used "stainless" steel ball chain in a big outside mosaic and it totally rusted. Now I am afraid to use it........I live in Hawai'i, lots of rain and high humidity.
There are a few different grades of stainless steel, I think 304 is the standard and then there is 316 and offers greater corrosion resistance and a higher price, I think this is the one they use for parts on yachts and boats to protect against salt. I love the patina look of rusted ball chain however it does depend on the job. The ballchain I used in this video was stainless steel 304. Will the stainless steel last the test of time in a mosaic without rusting, that I cannot tell you. I must visit Hawaii one day, thanks for watching. :)
@@TreasuryRoad I think both the thin set and the grout plus the humidity killed the ball chain and turned it into a rusty mess. I don't think I will use it ever again for an outdoor mosaic. I might visit Australia next year (Adelaide). Any mosaic action going on there?
@@originalart888 brass ball chain only for exterior projects is safest, will patina eventually even if lacquered, but long time and can polish reapply