MODERN ANTI-AIR VS WW1 + WW2 (BIPLANES + PROP PLANES) - CHALLENGE! What Does It Take? - WAR THUNDER

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  • čas přidán 15. 10. 2022
  • Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video. WW1 + WW2 vs Modern SPAA!!! Stay tuned!
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  • @kaih7647
    @kaih7647 Před rokem +1238

    "Modern AA vehicles getting absolutely destroyed by WW2 planes", or as it's also known, "literally every War Thunder Match"

    • @CatWithAOpinion
      @CatWithAOpinion Před rokem +65

      ADATS vs forged 50kg chaika bomb

    • @StrapMerf
      @StrapMerf Před rokem +33

      Yup, realism at it's finest.... because small arms and 20mm cannons can punch holes in the hull of an MBT

    • @tukangojek1335
      @tukangojek1335 Před rokem +10

      @@StrapMerf that coming from top

    • @neisvestno2444
      @neisvestno2444 Před rokem +29

      @@StrapMerf ah, sweet, tanker tears.

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 Před rokem +19

      @50 person account experiment Realistically speaking when you attack a ground target from an airplane you have the limited field of view of a cockpit, meaning aim is not easy mode.

  • @louiswright8282
    @louiswright8282 Před rokem +736

    14:43
    That's me LOL! Definitely one of my proudest WT moments, managing to take down a Modern SPAA with a JU-87.
    When he shot me down, all I could think of was "I'm not done with you! If I'm going down, so are you!"
    Was hard to steer the plane when crashing, but it all payed off :)
    It was a great event!!

    • @fernandomarques5166
      @fernandomarques5166 Před rokem +81

      Went full "There's a beast deep inside of you. It will not die. It will fight back!"

    • @louiswright8282
      @louiswright8282 Před rokem +26

      @@fernandomarques5166 that's one way to say it, and heck, that's what I though of when my wing was shot off, almost instinctively...

    • @dylanduong1680
      @dylanduong1680 Před rokem +29

      the definition of "we go down, we go down together"

    • @Delta-uv6dk
      @Delta-uv6dk Před rokem +11

      That was awesome, I really liked how you, even without a wing and with fire, keept flying the Stuka and at your last second you dropped that bomb. You're a legend Louis:D

    • @MAGEs-of-Anarchy
      @MAGEs-of-Anarchy Před rokem +8

      Stukas forever! Honestly my favorite moment of this video. Good work.

  • @kuldan5853
    @kuldan5853 Před rokem +534

    While enjoyable, this has a fatal flaw, namely that War Thunder is still a game at heart, which means that even the best SPAAG in game is still aimed manually by the player, whereas in reality, for example the Gepard would simply lock on all of those planes by Radar and then have the computer rapidly auto-fire most of those planes out of the air without even blinking.

    • @nt7519
      @nt7519 Před rokem +91

      Exactly! And what's more, commences engaging at a range out to ~5km. All those planes are dead before even getting into guns range.

    • @auqanova
      @auqanova Před rokem +21

      i feel like unless there was some rule against it, nothing stopped that from happening, except that all the planes dove low as soon as they spawned specifically to avoid being seen until they were within their own weapons range. their radars are all modeled in game i just dont think they got a real chance to use them.

    • @andreasmuller4666
      @andreasmuller4666 Před rokem +7

      Most of those planes wouldn´t make it into gun range in that last round as a wall of coordinated missle strikes would blow the "swarm" to pieces.
      The rest then would be mopped up by computer guided guns and they wouldn´t even break a sweat.

    • @andreasmuller4666
      @andreasmuller4666 Před rokem +30

      @@auqanova The SPAAs don´t have either auto tracking, auto targeting or auto fire enabled in warthunder to make them more "balanced" in regards to their battle tiers. These vehicles basically drive around with both arms behind their back and one eye stabbed out as well.

    • @kuldan5853
      @kuldan5853 Před rokem +4

      @@auqanova the guns in game are manually aimed..not like in real life.

  • @GustSergeant
    @GustSergeant Před rokem +909

    The editing definitely feels like it's improving as you are growing accustomed to war Thunder's somewhat janky replay viewer! Well done!

    • @jmpmp_505
      @jmpmp_505 Před rokem

      100th like

    • @jordan_-yj4gh
      @jordan_-yj4gh Před rokem +1

      true, I remember he did this type of vid in wotb lol 😂😂 and now different game, still bring me the same vibes

    • @locknload517
      @locknload517 Před rokem

      @@jmpmp_505 q

  • @Nativeat1YT
    @Nativeat1YT Před rokem +247

    .50 cals hurt lol, once again a very fun event to partake in and I enjoyed it very much :)

    • @noahsawesomevids422
      @noahsawesomevids422 Před rokem +2

      I subed to ur channel:)

    • @MAGEs-of-Anarchy
      @MAGEs-of-Anarchy Před rokem +7

      I’m surprised they did so much to modern SPAAs. I’d like to see a dozen BV 238s against a (non guided missile) modern SPAA though, that could be fun.

    • @Nativeat1YT
      @Nativeat1YT Před rokem +1

      @@noahsawesomevids422 thank you!

    • @sluin
      @sluin Před rokem +1

      @@MAGEs-of-Anarchy would maybe be preferable to use artillery with distance fuse like the rhino

    • @MAGEs-of-Anarchy
      @MAGEs-of-Anarchy Před rokem

      @@sluin I know the 8.8cm flak truck has some distance-fused shell options too and it’s technically a TD I think.

  • @tvo726
    @tvo726 Před rokem +126

    Between the cinematography and the visuals, and music, this was emotional and amazing. It felt like the prop planes had soul behind their attack, doing anything to drop their payload on target as their wingless planes hit the earth in a fire explosion. Well done.

    • @Horscht116
      @Horscht116 Před rokem +13

      Jea had like something heroic, like a small unmodern country defending against more powerfull attacker or so and the pilots give all they can in their old machines to stop the enemy advance and gain time for the own people on the ground

    • @elemenzyt4563
      @elemenzyt4563 Před rokem +5

      Yea, this video felt somehow better than even some Hollywood movies

    • @Muschelschubs3r
      @Muschelschubs3r Před rokem

      Work on your standards. The whole scenario is ridiculous and would never have happened IRL.

    • @tvo726
      @tvo726 Před rokem +6

      @@Muschelschubs3r I never once claimed that this could be a real Scenario... I was simply stating it felt cinematic with the camera and music work...

    • @noepictalesmember1865
      @noepictalesmember1865 Před rokem

      @@Muschelschubs3r Echt mal, Muschel. Keiner hat was von Anspruch an Realismus gesagt.

  • @lplayerjohnny9778
    @lplayerjohnny9778 Před rokem +22

    Its funny to see how the tunguska just looks like the most epic war scene being under fire from every angle possible, firing at everything, shooting missiles and covering the sky in lead. Meanwhile the begleit: Ohno, my engine is red, i hurthurt.

  • @dt_052
    @dt_052 Před rokem +161

    This is some of the best war thunder content out there. Can't stop watching these.

  • @Brandon-io9yj
    @Brandon-io9yj Před rokem +66

    The chaos, the music, the editing, this battle was legendary!

  • @joshmccalip6053
    @joshmccalip6053 Před rokem +19

    15:50 That was beautiful! Almost like a scene from a movie!

  • @knuckleheadgarage8534
    @knuckleheadgarage8534 Před rokem +3

    So The LAV AD is no longer in service. It was disbanded in the early 2000's it was too expensive to operate and i personally think they should have kept them

  • @mastercheeks5695
    @mastercheeks5695 Před rokem +59

    Somebody had to use OTOMATIC it is literally destroyer of worlds... Could be nice to see but still great content, congrats lads!

    • @elnewbie2611
      @elnewbie2611 Před rokem +5

      It's the best spaa in the game, how can they miss the pizza spaa bruh, I'm literally sad right now 😔

    • @DaCouchWarrior
      @DaCouchWarrior Před rokem +2

      Yea its strange nobody used it

    • @Lamosamo67
      @Lamosamo67 Před rokem +1

      I had the strv9040, and that’s about as close as you can get to one with the prox shells

    • @caesar5380
      @caesar5380 Před rokem +1

      @@elnewbie2611 it s the best up to 6km...good luck against far helis🤣

    • @melsuppatlol4565
      @melsuppatlol4565 Před rokem +1

      Yeah but this video isnt using helis, it just ww1 that are easily cannon fodder to an OTOMATIC

  • @Lamosamo67
    @Lamosamo67 Před rokem +15

    17:35. My crowning achievement. Single tapped. 40mm prox rounds are strong

  • @benthomas2232
    @benthomas2232 Před rokem +39

    This is literally the definition of “They can’t stop us all”

    • @Depreuz
      @Depreuz Před rokem +1

      we will see this form of cannonfodder-arial-supperiority "fact checked by true russian patriots" pretty soon

    • @marcelthevirginian1656
      @marcelthevirginian1656 Před rokem

      I was rootin' so hard for the old planes!

  • @treestar22
    @treestar22 Před rokem +39

    I love this challenge because you could do the last round like 5 different times and the outcome would never be the same!

  • @gannaeissa9320
    @gannaeissa9320 Před rokem +4

    Clearly there were no real professionals on SPAA side, because I know what an SPAA master can do - annihilate an entire server counting tanks.😢

  • @berserkerpride
    @berserkerpride Před rokem +124

    Goes to show how powerful CAS is.
    In many ground forces games the SPAA are outnumbered by 2 to 1 or 3 to 1. Here even modern SPAA couldn't stop WW2 CAS with those odds.

    • @schadenfreude1061
      @schadenfreude1061 Před rokem +31

      Finally, someone that understands AAs can’t counter CAS easily.
      If the pilot is really skilled, the only way to take him down is by another plane. AAs only work against mediocre pilots

    • @thelordofcringe
      @thelordofcringe Před rokem +36

      @@schadenfreude1061 because radar is useless in war thunder. Not even remotely realistic.

    • @nightshadedawn
      @nightshadedawn Před rokem +23

      @@schadenfreude1061 it doesn't help that players aren't instantly dead the moment they lose a wing or burst into flames like if they lost all crew in a tank.

    • @supremegreaser2399
      @supremegreaser2399 Před rokem

      Can’t wait for the tor.

    • @neisvestno2444
      @neisvestno2444 Před rokem

      @@schadenfreude1061 skill issue.
      You shouldn't make easy kills in wt, especially in aa.

  • @angelalfaro292
    @angelalfaro292 Před rokem +41

    That last round was majestic AF imagine if something like this happened IRL modern SPAA swatting them out of the skies and pilots flying feet off the ground to attack while the SPAA is busy on another plane… or the last ditch kamikaze out of sheer desperation

    • @borgmuller69
      @borgmuller69 Před rokem +3

      IRL the radar guidance and range of these SPAA's would have shot down all these planes before they had a visual on their location

  • @k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181

    The final Yak-9 losing half a wing only to spite the last AA in a final epic attempt is so par for the course of that plane. Nothing but epicness in the Yak-9's. The b and k are arguably the most fun.

  • @mateuszmazurek6080
    @mateuszmazurek6080 Před rokem +14

    That Strf had a good tactic not to spray but rather snipe. Worked out well for him

    • @Lamosamo67
      @Lamosamo67 Před rokem +5

      That was me! It did well, I had a few kills that weren’t shown that were long range snipes. STRF has no tracers, so it worked surprisingly well

    • @vastolordeking6285
      @vastolordeking6285 Před rokem +1

      @@Lamosamo67 ur smart

    • @NightFury128
      @NightFury128 Před rokem +1

      @Hunter Kaufman ye also have a major advantage that the other SPAAs were lacking, composite armour.

  • @macso
    @macso Před rokem +6

    14:40 that heroic Stuka damn

  • @thecommenter9678
    @thecommenter9678 Před rokem +11

    This feels like what you would see if the forces of WWII had to work together to fight some time travelers trying to take over the world.

  • @jambothejoyful2966
    @jambothejoyful2966 Před rokem +11

    The thing most people don’t realize about aiming bombs and rockets is that it’s way easier to aim them in the third POV option
    The actual direction the plane is moving in is displayed by the prograde marker which looks like an O with handles on the side and top, you can use this to accurately aim any ordinance that doesn’t launch from a rail

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani1070 Před rokem +18

    I would love to see a similar video except giant world war II bomber formations against modern spaa like the defense of Germany or Japan or something like that could they stop the huge waves of bombers before they bombed them or the bases to Oblivion I think that you could do a neat video based off of that idea right there by the way your video quality is improving I am quite impressed with your editing

  • @nollie4772
    @nollie4772 Před rokem +10

    I love watching your videos. Keep the work up!!

  • @nou7079
    @nou7079 Před rokem +4

    0:30 yo thats my hudson
    mom im on tv

  • @cyberdroid2300
    @cyberdroid2300 Před rokem +5

    This video is awesome! The Chaos, the gunsmoke, the explosions. Keep up the good work man

  • @MikhaelAhava
    @MikhaelAhava Před rokem +11

    This editing is really good and enjoyable. Your voice is calming. I’ve been watching you since wotb and now WT, I play both games. WT has more diversity and believe it’s a larger audience and more content for it. Which is a win win! Keep up with the content fine sir’

  • @night0188
    @night0188 Před rokem +2

    15:50 that Moment was so Epic. Almost Like a movie 🔥

  • @Steve_Farwalker
    @Steve_Farwalker Před rokem

    Amazing! One of your best yet.

  • @jamess2873
    @jamess2873 Před rokem +3

    The camerawork and editing on this video, especially the last fight, are technically very accomplished. Some of the shots you got are extraordinary.

  • @za5814
    @za5814 Před rokem +4

    Great one🎉 we’re all awaiting on the T80BVM vs T34/76s

  • @ccramit
    @ccramit Před rokem +2

    "With biplanes now.....we now turn to prop planes."
    Biplane didn't have props?

  • @greatcanadianmoose3965
    @greatcanadianmoose3965 Před rokem +7

    Awesome vid as always! Now for L3/33s vs R3s! Battle of italian memes

  • @dixievfd55
    @dixievfd55 Před rokem +1

    That last 10 minutes just shows that hiding in trees doesn't really conceal you from aircraft.

  • @thecrazyhound6010
    @thecrazyhound6010 Před rokem

    Been waiting for this these are epic

  • @guiiim2141
    @guiiim2141 Před 11 měsíci

    This is so well made!! Congrats bro

  • @stewcat101
    @stewcat101 Před rokem

    The last round was so cinematic, and it really showed the beauty and chaos of war thunder imo. Great job, keep it up!

  • @yeeterbeetus5719
    @yeeterbeetus5719 Před rokem +2

    This is a good video, it’s just that, a missile that goes way over a biplanes speed, and a biplane being more maneuverable than my dad dodging child support, that’s a big of for the SPAA, probably should’ve relied more on the main gun than the rockets.

  • @atomscat8468
    @atomscat8468 Před rokem

    The editing is so much better than i can do! Great video!

  • @mattw3606
    @mattw3606 Před rokem

    That was a lot of fun to watch, nice video

  • @Lanny.M
    @Lanny.M Před rokem +4

    I can never get over this battle types xD it's so entertaining to watch

  • @soup5759
    @soup5759 Před rokem +1

    The cinematics are so nice! Keep up the good work

  • @ObywatelMurawjow
    @ObywatelMurawjow Před rokem +1

    I'm impressed with how epic it look. Great job with editing, I felt like watching good action movie

  • @nicolaspeigne1429
    @nicolaspeigne1429 Před rokem

    props on the camera shots and editing, very nice !

  • @lharato1
    @lharato1 Před rokem +1

    Man, with that background music… it was epic! You sir just got my sub!

  • @warboy-ne8bf
    @warboy-ne8bf Před rokem +1

    Love your vids. Keep making the good vids

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER Před 11 měsíci

    Love it. Last one was a true close call

  • @tropanghayop1728
    @tropanghayop1728 Před rokem

    I did not expect it to be this intense 😆 this is awesome

  • @PrinceofPwnage
    @PrinceofPwnage Před rokem +1

    Camera angles are hella epic and dramatic, love it

  • @Tooold2dieyoung
    @Tooold2dieyoung Před rokem +1

    Bro this had me on the edge of my seat! You got a sub.🙏

  • @NolanM.
    @NolanM. Před rokem

    This feels like a cinematic movie! Awesome spectate quality!

  • @realityhits8099
    @realityhits8099 Před rokem

    U guys made it so good I got really sad during it. Good job

  • @sethkappaccilli9509
    @sethkappaccilli9509 Před rokem

    your editi ng is getting nutty dude. Nice music and cinematic shot combo.

  • @splitzon_1144
    @splitzon_1144 Před rokem

    Love the vids mate🔥

  • @edgychico9311
    @edgychico9311 Před rokem +1

    That was epic dude!

  • @GrayZ_dood
    @GrayZ_dood Před rokem

    This was absolutely amazing, the cinematics, the explosions and gunfire, the music, absolutely spot on.
    The moment on 6:43 was literally the definition of "you wot bruv?"

  • @mrkk5267
    @mrkk5267 Před rokem +5

    3:31 gigachad joins the battlefield

  • @wendydelisse9778
    @wendydelisse9778 Před rokem +1

    They say that even now in the 2020s, the North Korean air force still has 300 or so biplanes. You never know, pre-WW2 biplanes versus 21st Century anti-air could happen for real someday.

  • @loompo1252
    @loompo1252 Před rokem +1

    This has to be the most cinematic piece of glory I’ve ever watched.

  • @tellot5458
    @tellot5458 Před rokem

    The camera work and editing on this is amazing

  • @angelcordova8511
    @angelcordova8511 Před rokem +1

    These vids are so cool. The matches are so entertaining

  • @teacher_shep
    @teacher_shep Před rokem

    This was so epic to watch. I could imagine the panicked radio callouts and excited shouts of the SPAA gunners trying to shoot planes out of the sky and the determined grimace of the pilots as friends and brothers are getting shot down around them as they try and drop their payload at treetop level to take out the AA guns. Some in last ditch attempts holding shaking, battered, crippled aircraft in the air to make one last heroic sacrifice.

  • @godemperor161
    @godemperor161 Před rokem

    I didn't knew I needed this video until I watched it!

  • @thejosh38
    @thejosh38 Před 6 měsíci

    That was awesome, love this game

  • @alpacaofthemountain8760

    great work on both sides!

  • @Oberfeldwebel_Hans
    @Oberfeldwebel_Hans Před rokem +2

    Minute 14:45 the Stuka pilot has forfilled his order🫡

  • @cjaydustie1867
    @cjaydustie1867 Před rokem +1

    Love these videos
    Edit:was happy to see the Tunguska after the LAV didn’t go so well

  • @stoneman8387
    @stoneman8387 Před rokem

    Pretty f-ing awesome! Pure Entertainment. Action, Sound, Music and a lot of Drama. 🥳😎👍

  • @JordanLewis82
    @JordanLewis82 Před rokem +5

    I wish SPAA vs Air was its own dedicated game mode. It looks pretty fun.

  • @willemdakevin1681
    @willemdakevin1681 Před rokem

    This is one of the coolest videos I've ever seen

  • @dumbo21
    @dumbo21 Před rokem +5

    6:23 was just absolute badassery. looked like something out of a hollywood film if hollywood was good

  • @roblox_luver2261
    @roblox_luver2261 Před 4 měsíci

    the video is legendary from the editing chaos and graphic keep doing content like this

  • @modoverkill7066
    @modoverkill7066 Před 9 měsíci

    Bless CZcams for showing me this, I knew I was missing something in my life

  • @felixsasdasd83
    @felixsasdasd83 Před rokem

    one of THE best warthunder vids if not THE best warthunder vids ive ever seen

  • @Scrat335
    @Scrat335 Před rokem

    Excellent video.

  • @garrybrown8657
    @garrybrown8657 Před rokem

    I have so much fun watching. The speciation, competitors, and the music. Heart pounding action. It's better than most movies today.

  • @KrautGoesWild
    @KrautGoesWild Před rokem

    Okay, _that_ video came as a recommendation from CZcams and I am positively impressed 😃👍.

  • @MurphDawgg
    @MurphDawgg Před rokem +1

    We need more of these awesome videos ❤

  • @jessegd6306
    @jessegd6306 Před rokem +2

    Planes not only wrecking SPAA, but also catching their own team in crossfires and bomb drops makes this feel like a truly authentic WT experience. Or, close to it anyway. Repair costs and all that.

  • @dimitrissteinhauer4112
    @dimitrissteinhauer4112 Před měsícem

    great vid its very intertaning

  • @fictionalbiscuits5865
    @fictionalbiscuits5865 Před rokem +1

    thank god we have famous gulf war hero Saul Goodman manning the SPAA for our boys out there

  • @h2overthinker
    @h2overthinker Před 8 měsíci

    this has the quality and feel of a damn movie, love it

  • @bubblyeee2723
    @bubblyeee2723 Před rokem +2

    Only thing I wish you guys did was just lob the proxy shells from miles out. Woulda looked SICK in replay. Other than that very cool video and fun to watch!

  • @NatTheGreat143
    @NatTheGreat143 Před rokem +1

    This is so awesome!!! ✌️👍👍👍❤️ Can you also try naval battle?? Bunch of low tier coastal vessel vs a big battleship would be nice 😁

  • @yuxinhao4482
    @yuxinhao4482 Před rokem

    Epic battle and thank you! Will try to join your discord channel

  • @nathanzeyer4111
    @nathanzeyer4111 Před 9 měsíci

    A true cinematic masterpiece

  • @Abensberg
    @Abensberg Před rokem

    man thats epic
    almost like the endbattle in a movie :D

  • @melsuppatlol4565
    @melsuppatlol4565 Před rokem +1

    "It's really f*cking simple: I wouldn't recommend shooting at me because your gun goes pew-pew, but my f*cking gun goes-
    BRRRRRRRRRRRT"
    -some short War Thunder skit that I can't remember

  • @zamtv2514
    @zamtv2514 Před rokem

    Humanities last hope kinda vibe best vid yet ❤

  • @Chemical_Mask7720
    @Chemical_Mask7720 Před rokem

    Wow that was so fucking fantastic 👏 bravo once again you had me on the edge of my seat ,bravo,bravo

  • @coleducsai3100
    @coleducsai3100 Před rokem

    This was epic

  • @BH5432
    @BH5432 Před rokem +1

    This had the same vibes of the last Samurai, The prop planes flying into their last battle knowing they will most likely not survive against the progress of technology. the editing. especially of the last battle was top notch. The way that Big bomber came down was legit sad.

  • @JUNIsLuke
    @JUNIsLuke Před rokem

    The main character energy on both sides is insane!!!!

  • @somekindofreptile3290

    Damn, how cinematic this is!

  • @ericmarsha2103
    @ericmarsha2103 Před rokem +1

    Should be 1 rule with bomb drops, pilot needs to survive, maybe not aircraft but at least the pilot, unless shot down, only to avoid kamikaze bombs? Great work tho guys love it as always

  • @D77tcPelican
    @D77tcPelican Před 7 měsíci

    This looks like way too much fun.

  • @cafezin0
    @cafezin0 Před rokem

    Nice video!

  • @brandonfrye2902
    @brandonfrye2902 Před rokem +2

    If this were real life this wouldn’t even be fair for the planes

  • @jonathanshank1634
    @jonathanshank1634 Před rokem +5

    I don’t think any of the biplanes in warthunder are from WWI. Interwar, yes. Early WWII, yes. But not WWI.

    • @lordwintertown8284
      @lordwintertown8284 Před rokem

      There wasn't any then 4 months back but soon the Fairey IIIF Mk.IIIB will be added to one of the WWI ships and that was a design from 1917.