How to diagnose an Echo 2 cycle that is bogging down or leaking fuel. MAY BE AN EASY FIX! Repair
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My name is Bre. I took two years of small engine repair at the local college. When I left school, I fell into a wonderful job at a local small engine shop where I worked the counter for a couple years. In 2010 my husband and I opened up our own small engine shop in central Arkansas where I am able to work alongside my family and best friends. We see over 2,000 pieces of small engine equipment every year, and answer 1,000's of small engine questions. We specialize in brands such as Briggs and Stratton, Kohler, Echo and Shindaiwa, but work everyday on MANY other brands like Stihl, Husqvarna, Honda, Craftsman, Remington, Red Max, Troy Bilt, Scag, Bad Boy, Hustler, World Lawn, Poulan, Mantis, Etc.. Hopefully, my experience I share, will save you Time, Money and Frustration in the future!
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CHICKANIC: The fuel tank valve is a one way filtered air check valve that allows air into the fuel tank... and does NOT allow vapors or fuel to exit. The valve allows "make-up" air to enter the fuel tank to avoid a vacuum / fuel starvation from the displaced fuel that is burned. It would appear that in fact your fuel tank valve was properly working and more than likely the fuel ultimately moistened the diaphragm assembly, making it flexible, which stopped the stiff pressure that was applied to the metering lever... which stopped the leak and resulted in the unit no longer flooding. As always, thanks for the excellent video!
I'm glad your brother is ok, and I thank him for his service to our country.
I may as well spend the $9.39 on the vents. Pull cords on my echoes are always soaked in fuel. Thank you for your time, chicanic
I had a piece of equipment leak fuel all the time, came from the dealer like that... Thought it might be a faulty tank vent, changed that out. Still leaked fuel. Turns out it was the needle lever was up too high, so the needle was always open. What gave that away was there was zero change in RPM in the H screw. So after getting into the carb, found that out and was easy to fix back to proper ZAMA height.
Glad your brother's safe and well and thanks for introducing me to mechanic in a bottle, I've got a 2.5kva generator which ran as rough as a Badgers arse treated and now sweet as a nut,❤️
Awesome!
I love spring!!! Just hate equipment that someone (me) forgot to winterize properly! Please thank your brother for his service!🇺🇸
I will tell him! Thanks for watching!
Good to see a new video. I know how crazy your shop must be about now. Glad your Brother is OK. Cheers!
Your customer will be very happy. Nice easy fix👏
Thanks again Al!
Thank your brother for his service from an old vet . Very good info !!!
My grandpa was a marine, my uncle was Air Force, my dad was Army and my brother is Navy. Got them all covered! LOL! Thanks for watching!
happy to hear your good news I never tire of seeing small engine starts after the off season
I have an Echo string trimmer and rototiller. Your channel has been very helpful.
Great videos! I have seen them all. I have been a small engine technician for 45 years and love a challenge, and see you do to. Awesome job you do, wish I could get my wife to help some times. I love Echo produced I have a CS-440 I bought in 2005 and saw about 15 cord of wood each year, regular maintenance goes a long way and proper oils to. Great job! looking forward for more videos.
Thanks very much for the information in this video, Bre. Big thumbs up for this one! I've been studying small engine work fulltime at CZcams University since July 2021, watching literally thousands of videos (for several hours every day). My primary goal is acquiring equipment free or cheap and flipping, although I've started to do repairs for friends and family in a very small way. Although I'm subbed to your channel I don't have the notifications turned on. I watched plenty of your content early on until I started sorting through various channels to only get notifications from the ones I wanted to watch every day. I do see yours in my feed and click on those that seem interesting or informative to me at that moment (like this one!).
Some of what you covered in this video is content I had not come across yet (and I'm subbed to many channels, including 5 you have listed). I understand how a carb works but it hadn't really occurred to me yet about exactly how the metering diaphragm could potentially flood or starve an engine of fuel and relating that to symptoms. I was already aware of adjusting the inlet needle lever or replacing a needle or seat but I hadn't ever heard that a diaphragm which was working during the previous season could possibly be revived by "exercising" it with fresh fuel, but I guess that makes perfect sense (at least sometimes). Certainly worth a try rather than having to take the time to research, order and install a rebuild kit! I was also aware of how check valves work in these engines but have yet to work on one with a separate hose running to an external check valve. Learning how that turned out to be the primary issue with this engine and how clear hose makes more sense in this particular installation helps a lot. Now I have more diagnostic and repair tools to add to my toolbelt! :) (...and source high quality clear hose equal to Tygon!)
If I may, I'd like to offer a bit of constructive criticism about your audio quality. This is something of which you're probably already aware, but I notice it in so many creators' content I keep bringing it up to hopefully improve overall content throughout CZcams. If you go back over this video and note when the audio volume is low and when it's high and then correlate that to where and how you had your equipment set up maybe you can see what needs to happen (with your existing equipment). The final outdoor segment has much better volume and is easier to hear compared to the indoor segments, especially the first indoor segment which is very difficult to hear. I'm guessing you're using a single camera with included microphone for all your work. The creators who have switched to lapel (lavaliere) mics do have much better sound quality because nothing drops out and almost always the volume is high enough for us to hear everything said. (Of course it's important for those mics to have a foam cover to avoid wind noise and sibilances (vocal "s" sounds). Please bear in mind we can always turn the sound down on our end but with a lot of equipment we have only a limited ability for volume increase. I'd much rather have to turn it down than have to put on headphones or earbuds to get enough volume.
Thanks for reading and keep up the good work!
Thank You, and MORE important, THANKS to your brother for his service for us.
Thank you to your brother for serving.
Thanks!
Wow, Fantastic video. I've been struggling with the same issue on my Shindaiwa t242 and have done everything I can think of. Thought I was going to have to replace the carb. but your trouble shooting was inspired so I'm going to give it another try. Keep up the great work.
Good to hear you are slammed busy! I always say, when in business, being busy is better than the alternative!
Thank your brother for his service to our country!
Awesome!! Thanks again for another great tip for those of us in the country that have to do our own DIY.
Glad To See A Snafu Did Not Take Any Casualties
Thank your Brother For His Service And One Of The Many That Keep Our Freedom Intact Every Day
Nice To See Restraint From Firing The Parts Cannon And Using Logic To Figure Out An Issue
Good Diagnostics 👍 Bre
Please thank you brother for his service!
Bre, another super clear video. Saving us Time, Money and Frustration.
Something I never thought to check, thank you, love your videos!!!
About 1:38 in before you get to the lesson. Glad your brother is ok. Thank him for his service. Don’t need quite such a long intro. But most people seem to do that.
Perfect timing, just picked up a es 210 shredder vac that won't rev up. Noticed the filter was soaked. This thing was really filthy from sucking up and mulching leaves. Haven't torn into it yet but you can bet I'll be checking that vent closely first
Hey Bre,
Love how you figured out another issue and made it so easy!!
And no, never get tired of you doing chainsaw videos :)
Take care yo
Thank your brother for his service, glad he is ok. cool video was having same issue on a echo weed eater poured fuel in tank and fuel came out of intake gasket , so vent, or diaphram, lines are new
Good info....Thanks for all you do to help. Be safe.
Thank your brother for his service and turn the thermostat up outside there in Arkansas. I'm coming down next week on a fishin trip and would prefer not to freeze to death. Keep the great vids coming.
Snow Friday and the almost 80 next week. The weather is always crazy here.
I have the exact Echo trimmer that's doing the exact same thing so I now no what to check, thanks for this video it really helps.👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you kindly! , that was my problem as well! Best regards from Puerto Rico!
Another video of yours that is easy to “like”. Small engine repair has become much less intimidating for me since I started watching your channel.
Nice to see this ended up a simple fix. Petrol in Oztralia (your Gas) doesn't seem to last long these days either. I keep away from Ethanol blends. Love your work ! 🙂🚜🐻 Bear Queensland Oztralia
Good video, see that you try to help people save some money in these times, and tell your brother thanks for his service...
Love your channel!!!
Nice to see a woman do this kind of work too.
Just found your channel and like the knowledge and content.
I found this video on the tank vent to be very helpful thank you.
Great video. Love the helpful suggestions you give to try!!!
Thank your brother for his service
Nicely done. Would not have thought about the vent. Thanks for what you do and thanks to your brother for his service.
Thank you for watching Frank!
Yo yo. Ta for the video. Yeah I have see this problem too. Some great information as always
Learned something new today
Wouldn't ever have thought of this
Thx
That’s a new one. I learn something from this. Thank you so much.
I've got a Shindaiwa with a tank vent so I'll keep this in mind, thanks!
Yes and put fresh gas means fresh mix from the pump not from the same batch the old gas came from last year. Love your videos you do an awesome job!
Great user info as usual. Thanks for the tips 👍
Thanks easy to follow and a starting place.
I love you channel! Would you consider doing a video on what are the most important items ti have in your shop for customer purchase ie oil, trimmer line etc just the fast sellers. I’m trying to make a list of what to have on hand for my small shop. Thanks for all you do been following since the beginning love seeing the growth of the channel you deserve it all and more. Have a great day.
Great video and explanation! Thank you 👍🏻
Thanks Catcha Cow!!
Good job, very informative!
Important topic to talk about. Consider a video on how to sharpen the hedge clipper blades.
THX again a helpfull video for me. Greetings from Germany.
Same thing happened to my 8 yr old PAS 225 trimmer. I just replaced the carburator with an OEM.
Glad he is home safe, even if it is fir a short time.
Hopefully he gets to stay for a long time. He has been in for 13 years and has been out many times.
@@Chickanic It's good to have our loved ones home and out of harms way. Prayers sent your way that he can get much needed R&R at home.
Informative video, thanks Chickanic
Thanks for watching!
More good tips, and I'm glad your brother and his shipmates are ok.
another awesome video. Please keep them rolling
I've had this issue with a sthill hedge trimmer, don't remember what model it was but the tank vent was in the fuel cap..
Took me a while to figure out what the problem was but just cleaned the fuel cap with compressed air and it was all working as it should again.
I recently got a hold of a Weed Eater Excalibur hedge trimmer. Piston, and cylinder were destroyed. I did save the Zama carb in case someone needs it.
Hell yeah! Good for another season ready to do some bush whacking
Oh yea!
Great video. Had troubles with a tank vent years ago. Not understanding it I noticed the unit ran when it was disconnected. Soooo hmm extra part didn’t need it lol.
Wonder if you would talk about the hour ratings these small engines have . Maybe help consumers buy the better power tool! My landscaper neighbor showed me on the box his new weed eater came in
We have a guy in our area called Mountain Enterprise. He told me about Mechanic in a bottle years ago. It's good stuff.
Great info. Great diagnosis dear
Thanks Rob!
Love your channel
Please thank your brother for us!
Good vid , I have only seen a bad tank vent a few times.
My father was stationed on the Nimetz, very large aircraft carrier, he would have been upset to hear you call it a boat.
Great video! 👍🏽
Another good video! Thank you
Thanks again!
Good Job!
Great site Chickanic cheers Mick Australia.
I recently had a Poulan that I hadn't used in a couple years, yes I drained the fuel. But it needed new fuel lines to get running as they were split and leaking gas. Ran good for a few hours while I cut up a tree then sat again for 6 months, yes I ran out the fuel before that 6 months. Got it started but it ran pretty crappy. Fiddled with the carb screws and got it running really well(maybe too well), but chain needed sharpening so stopped to do that. After that I could never get it to even blub blub a few times even using starting fluid. I'm guessing the ignition module died, but since it is probably 20 years old and I don't use a chain saw much more that every year to 6 months, decided to switch to electric. Got an Ego 18" and it starts every time even after sitting for months! Woo Hoo!
I've had the hc150 for years and it's a great machine. Ever since I purchased it starting it has always been a pain. Usually prime it 3 or 4 times before I have to keep the trigger squeezed just to get it running. Any siggestions.
Good stuff, last year, I got so angry with the hedge trimmer I tossed it back into the shed. I then grabbed the chainsaw and used that. Didn't look great... But it worked, and was much faster! Lol.
Suppose I may need to look at the trimmer again. ✌️🖖
Be careful! Cutting stuff smaller than finger size with a saw will make your chain pop off. Thanks for watching!
@@Chickanic thanks! I'll remember that
Haven’t run into that one yet but that one’s good to know! And I think they call those big boats ships. I don’t know ask your brother?
That's some good info.
That's y I have an electric and battery hedge trimmer. Seven years and clearance items paid off the first year. This is home use and 60 feet of hedge done in 35 minutes
I have the same unit. There is a tiny roller on the throttle valve that is easy to lose. Without the roller it will never run right! Nice video!
Thanks for watching!
Where is that "roller" you talk about?
@@donmayberryjrsOPE
The throttle is a twist affair with spiral threads. On top of the slide is a little plastic pin, the roller goes on that pin, is made of metal, and if you bought the kit was likely the only piece left in the kit once you put everthing else in. The roller takes up the slop in the slide mechanism.
like it very informative. thanks!!!
Thanks you very much it’s help me to fix my weed eater.
Great video. Glad to learn the trick about loosening up the diaphragm . Will try it next time I get carb problems
Thanks for watching!
You are the best.
Plugged vent filter: Good Point.
I have two Echo’s both have great compress, muffler not blocked or exhaust port, new clean, plug air filter, fuel filter still bog
Please let your brother know that this Navy Veteran wants to thank him for his service to our country
👍😁good info girl!
Thanks for the Video but a lot of snow yet here in NW Wisconsin.
We might get snow tomorrow and then it will be close to 80 next week!
More four stroke four cycle stuff please particularly Honda.
I have a Honda rotavator/tiller the tank vent id a knob on the filler cap that you have to unscrew to let the air in. Forget and it will not start.
I have a Ryobi hedge trimmer that has stripped the flywheel twice ..the key way is cast in the aluminum flywheel and strips very easily.
Hola thank u mam great video 👍
I just got through fixing a free Husqvarna 165 bt back pack blower she is running great and it was free to me
Awesome!
@@Chickanic I did a video of it on my CZcams channel if you want to check it out there Young lady 💐
What to do if the tank has no vent, like my PB-461LN? Can I drill a 3rd hole in the tank grommet and add a vent? Or does that system vent another way? I've been having hard starting for a while, even worse when the weather is hot. Thanks for any insight.
Awesome
Nice tip.
Thanks Bidders!
Tank vent??? Tank vent!!! ....argh!!!... frustration !!! two carbs later ...and my problem is a tank vent?? Thank You for this!!! ....but Argghhh!!! btw, I like your online persona/style.
Love the channel, I appreciate what you do for all of us. I just acquired a Ecco weed wacker and the issue is that when I pull start on it it doesn’t see to engage until I let go of the rope. It almost seems like it’s working backwards, any thoughts? Thanks for the great videos and stay well.
If the pull cord broke someone could have wound it up backwards
@@matthewbeaver5026 thanks sir, much appreciate it I’ll check it out .
Thanks for the video. What kind of gas do u use? U say, " My gas". What gas is that? I know ita not the can from the big box store. Is it non-ethenol gas with 2 cycle oil mix? Thank u.
My remington 2510 leaf blower is bogging. The muffler screws won`t come off. If I twist any more they`re gonna break. Is it no a throw away. Maybe I`ll drill holes in the muffler ans see if it helps.
Is there a tank vent on a jd lawn tractor or is it the only one on the gas cap?
Can tank vents be cleaned in ultrasonic? I know they are not expensive, but sometimes you don’t want to / cannot wait?