Which High Salaried NHL Players Are Worth Their Pay Right Now? 2021 UFA Talk as Well
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- I haven't done a video on this topic in awhile, so why not look at which players are the highest salaried in the NHL and which ones are arguably overpaid.
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As a Pens fan, I'm glad Sid is oddly obsessed with his number 87. 8.7 million a year for Sidney Crosby to play for your team is legit thievery
Yupp lol he made stupid money off endorsements so its a win win as long as the team spends the money they are saving
He was born in 1987 that’s why
@@DRK-kd8oe Dude I've been aware he wears 87 because he's born 8/7/87 since 03 but thank you lol
As a leafs fan, I have dreams of a humble superstar who wants to stay with your team and win with and for the team.
@@paulyd7428 Shrek voice: Ya right like thats ever going to happen
Lol Remember when everyone said 8 years at $8 million for Draisaitl was an overpayment? 3 years into that contract he gave the oilers 285 points and an Art Ross. Lol
Getting carried big time by Mcdavid. He's a good player don't get me wrong but without Mcdavid he would do half his points and lower imo
@@hELLLcs lmao take it you don't actually watch the oilers
@@hELLLcs He was the one who carried the Oilers in their only playoff run and he had a higher p/pg last season in the 7 games McDavid wasn't in the lineup
@@hELLLcs I guess you are the fool in April fools day.
@@hELLLcs you don't know hockey, you just ride mcdavid lol
The most expensive piece of Bread. Worth every penny.
Screw Putin
Putin doesnt give a flying fuck about Panarin
Dont be so quick to bite on easy headlines for easy clicks
@@StonedSpagooter eh, world leaders care more about their home athletes then you might think. I use Jesse Owens in the 1936 olympics when he embarrassed Hitler and the Nazis.
@@jacksondewitt Read the Gulag Archipelago and come back and talk to me.
Putin, doesn't give a SHIT about Panarin to be as blunt as possible.
@@jacksondewitt comparing his mentality to Hitler also shows the ignorance of Russian politics, I apologize for being rude, bu that is just a flat out ignorant comparison.
Putin is not Stalin.
"I owe it all to Ryan O'Reilly! He was such an inspiration to me!" XD
Man, I was on Ebay drunk a little while ago, and the next morning I realized I signed Rick Dipietro for 15 years
LOL
Quit Yashin up old memories !
Rantanen is so underrated everyone talks about how good Mackinnon is but Rantanen is right there with him and is such a good power forward
The Moose is loose!
At first people were like he's just an product of MacKinnon. It was funny. He's one of the best wingers in the league.
@@juuso4148 Exactly and MacKinnon needs Rantanen just as much as Rantanen needs MacKinnon but like I remember in the bubble everyone talked about MacKinnon point production and I was like Rantanen was only couple points behind MacKinnon like the guy gets overlooked and its crazy how that is
@@love4adventurz Definitely yup. In my opinion they are the best duo in the league right now.
McDavid will always be worth every penny he makes!!
McDavid will always be underpaid no matter how much he makes. That's how good he is.
He could actually make 20 something M and people wouldn’t complain about it
@@Andrew-wv7ql Max contract is $16.3M but I get your point
@@HogEnjoyer yeah lol I know
Especially in comparison to Mathews.
Mathews has a better shot, McDavid has a better everything else.
Shannon giving compliments to Dubas?
This really is an April Fools video!
haha made my day
@@colincurran9275 Nice pfp lol
Look at the league. There are few making a better job. And Kyle keeps getting better
@@lg3988 less than 30 GMs doing a better job, but the majority of our top players and prospects were Lou's work so let's not pretend that Kyle made this team better.
@@rivahkillah he also had to get rid of the Marleau contract, flipped Kapanen for two top prospects in Amirov and Hallander and look at the team they ice in a flat cap situation...
Maybe do a video for Low pay players who are worth their pay.
Or underpaid...?
Pastrnak at
This is why I love u shannon.. any guy could get up there and recap hockey games, but very very few can do the side videos and the depth of research and knowledge u have. GOAT
Do the opposite with the worst value players. You'll be wearing a Canucks jersey for that one.
no he will be wearing a Sabres jersey, with skinner at 9mil, okposo at 6mil, hall at 8mil
Loui
@@saltpeter500 would you trade loui for jeff skinner?
@@michaelkerber3337 Loui=$6M for 1 point. Skinner=$9M for 4 points. Seems like Skinner is the better value at $2.25M/point.
@@saltpeter500 you can't really say that cause loui has only played 7 games
Your videos are so well informed and you put alot of info and time into these. I personally really really enjoy everything you post.
Thanks Shannon !! 🏒🥅
Love the contract videos. Keep ‘em coming Shanny. Thank you so much!
Dubas literally has a cheat code In his franchise mode. He has all the money he can spend
He turns off the salary cap lol
@@colincurran9275 yup. How did we let go a guy who has a proven track record, won 3 Stanley Cups for a Newbie GM who blew his bank on 3 players? Now likely to lose Hyman, a dude who plays with grit.
i think dubas' mistake was signing tavares
not that tavares isnt worthy of the money... it's just that his salary would be better served creating a more balanced lineup throughout..
but instead, dubas now has to try to find bargain contracts to fill massive roles
@@juanito1975 lmao Lou signed Marleau to 6.5M and Zaitsev to 4.5M. He was also there for the 2017 and 2018 playoff losses.
But his controller is missing the R2/RT button, since he apparently cant switch to his defensive lineup when looking at his team
As a leaf fan I love what Hyman brings and I really hope we re-sign him but I cant see him making less than 4-4.5 million per
Guarantee he's a Leaf next year, Dubas knows how important he is. They're probably just waiting to until after the expansion draft to sign him so they don't have to protect him
4x4 has a nice ring to it
I can
6 million is what he'll command on the open market.
Hyman is going to be a leaf for life and work for the franchise forever. He’s a hometown boy and will be taken care of for the rest of his life. Don’t be surprised if he signs for $3 million for 7 years or something.
Awesome channel. Can always depend on you to catch up on the game when life gets a bit busy
Great video Shannon, I never thought to separate cap hits to salaries. Very interesting 👍 happy Easter to the Yvonne and the family.
Nathan MacCannon's salary, cap hit, and everything is just a GM's wet dream. Hopefully Makar signs a contract similar to Hedman's, this avs team is downright scary.
I don't think Brandon Saad gets paid more than $7 million. Statwise, he's similar to Toffoli, and Toffoli has never been paid $6 million his whole career. I think Saad should be thinking to himself that 3 stanley cups are better than 2 and hopefully he will stay with Colorado somehow.
MacKinnon’s contract is up in two years. And he signed that contract before he broke out. Similar to Barkov. They will sign a much bigger contracts in two years (2023).
MacKinnon
@@Redditaurus like a cannon my guy; he’s just saying he has a good shot lol
Very interesting vlog. What is a ‘Restricted Free Agent’.
Suggestions for future vlogs: Seattle Kraken, possible make up of team, and also, given the caps in place, what would be your stratin* team, selecting across all leagues based on say 50% of the salary cap for you to use.
I hav3 also subscribed to your TEG, based on your forthcoming MLB channel, I am a big Giants fan, alongside the Oilers.
Love your channel, keep up the great work, and you and Shannon ....Stay Safe
I read 2021 RFAS as Zozi Rfas and was like who is that.
Looks like a czech name. The last name is missing a vowel
Hahaha I read it that way too.
@@kylespencer7756 I don't think so, but the surname could be written by someone drunk, who wanted to write Gudas or Dubas.
@@mr.schloopka1124
I see what your saying. But to me it looks similar to Jagr, Kindl, Brendl, Trnka, Sustr, etc...
Buch has been outstanding this year. I love shouting buuuchhhh when he scores luckily hes done a bunch of that this year😂
Shanny could have said just a little bit more about him Lol, he's a heart and soul kid. Thanks for mentioning him though, he deserves it.
Can you do a mock Seattle draft of who you think each team will loose?
You know your hockey! Great job.
How can someone dislike Your videos, my god
Wow the Avs have Landeskog, Makar, and Grubauer up after this year. It'll be interesting to see how Sakic handles this offseason, especially keeping in mind that MacKinnon comes up soon too and is insanely underpaid
I feel like MacKinnon has said that he plans on taking a discount when he resigns.
@@dmac26official no way hes going to want same or more then rantanen. I know he said that he dosent care about the money
@@mikkejalonen9050 you have to think that MacKinnon is at least a 10-11 million dollar market value. So even if he signed for 9, that would be a discount.
@@dmac26official that is true. Florida will have the same issue to soon becus barkov is to underpaid
@@mikkejalonen9050 Yup. With the flat cap, things are going to be VERY interesting.
Quality video!
Great Vid !!
Kind of ridiculous that Draisaitl isn't on the list
Had a few beers and was wondering "WHO the heck is Zozi Ufas making 10md!", before I realized...
You should make a video explaining why it was easier to score goals in the 80's and 90's then it is now. Teams used to have close to 400 goal seasons on the regular. Now they struggle to break the 300 goal barrier.
Shan I listen to you for your docile voice and objectivity. But every now and you make smile. I.e. At 10:02
Couldn’t agree more about Copp, very underrated
Okay, Mr Benning 🤣🤣🤣. My sides are still splitting 🤣🤣🤣
I am definitely not a Taveres fan, but this season (particularly the second half) he has become a way better defensive minded forward, as is reflected in his +/- numbers. It is this style...forwards playing a 200 foot game and more emphasis on tighter checking of your opponent that translates into wins during the Stanley Cup playoffs.
I really think this upcoming offseason will determine the direction of the Bruins going forward. Do they try to ride this aging core to one last Stanley cup some more? Or do they accept that this core can’t get it done anymore and start over? I think what happens with Krejci and Rask is key to the direction they go. Most likely they both get discounts from what they were making before. Halak is most likely gone this year with Vladar outplaying him and Swayman tearing it up in Providence. Rask will probably use his last few years to teach Vladar and Swayman before passing the torch to them.
Not sure what the smartest thing to do would be.
Barzal and Konecny on the Bruins would certainly be interesting
Most overpaid: Karlsson
Most underpaid: Copp/ Hyman
It's funny, Karlsson was the best offensive defenceman when he signed his contract.
I believe the leafs are playing a playoff hockey now, working on team defense and playing the depth players. Previous years of run and gun are not as prevalent. Yes I believe they need to keep Hyman and it would be nice to have M,M or T be able to offer some funds. I agree that long term deals look good for Crosbyesque players but not so much for those that do not pan out.
What do you think of no cap but a luxury tax?
With Laine, interesting move in regard to him, what do they do with Torts ?
If Torts, or new coach( what type of coach)
Hey THG, would kind of contract would the habs be looking at to pay danault, its an interesting one because montreal has to identify if he'll be part of their top 3 C moving forward
You know how good that Draisatel contract is since it’s not on the board
Dang I beat your tweet promoting this 😂
I'm getting tired of hoping Leaf players take a discount but honestly if anyone is in a position to, its probably Hyman. Fan of the franchise, deeply involved in it, already rich from family and being a high toted childrens book author.
Also Hyman gotta know his numbers are bit inflated when he mostly plays with Matthews and Marner
@@Ryan-fx9gl and always seems to score empty netters lol
Landy Mack and moose is a GOATED line
And they Rack up so many Points .
Oh deer , I went there . Hunting for likes . Luv My Avs .
“OK mr Benning” AHAHAHA
Zozi Rfas is my favourite Slovakian player - but he's clearly overpaid! :D
Anaheim Ducks: Ryan Getzlaf
UFA this summer
Makes: $8.25 million
3 goals, 15 assist this season.
Big drop off for him. Will be interesting to see if he comes back next season for a pay cut or retires. He has 980 points in his career so he might stick around to try and hit the 1000 mark.
Looking at all those ufa's I'd love to see OVI, Barrie, and hyman in Calgary. That will not happen but a girl can dream..
Love that crosby is 8.7 mil and malkin just over 9 for a little longer.
12:20 Laine when he sign is contrat he said he will score 50 goals 2 year in a row hehad 28 last year this year 9 goals
13:55 Columbus doesnt force Laine to play defense 24 game 34 giveway 9 takeway -11
Laine is so overrated. Love seeing him go from the Jets to the Blues under torts.
If Laine go UFA Treliving will hop up to at least 7.5 to try get him
Maybe a rental for hall in Ottawa could do something, but he wants to be somewhere competitive and Ottawa will be there in a couple years...
Don’t think so. They are already paying Dadonov 5M for 2 more years. They have to pay Tkachuck and Batherson soon too.
@@joeimbesi5361 just a thought, im not sure hed fit well in ottawa anyway
Hall needs to put down roots. He's a skilled player and he's moved around too much to really fit into a system. The next team that picks him up needs to sign him to 2-4 years at 4-6m and let him snap in.
The guy, with his bogus curse, gets way too much hate.
@@xmarine73 I think he’s a talented player that’s been jibbed by some really poor teams and some crappy contracts, but I don’t see him getting anything more than 2 years at his next team
Already know Bobrovsky is on this list without watching the video
Will you do Jays episodes? Season started.
jays suck
I feel there is one major aspect of the Toronto Maple Leafs organization that is offen over looked. Their training staff, nutritionists, personal trainers, doctors and surgical staff is incredibe. The sky is the limit to how far a player can take advantage of. The players can take advantage of a bottomless budget for doctors, surgery, rehab, personal trainers, skating trainers,... You name it. Then, when healthy, they play with superstars, on a really good team. (And, the chance to be legendary! )
53 years without a Cup is definitely legendary!
Huh, well a lot of other teams have an amazing staff too. Pierre gervais (equipment manager) from the canadiens just participated in his 3000th game
You mean legendary like playing with Crosby, or McKinnon or Ovi or...? Yeah, all the teams have nutritionists and nice workout facilities, these are professionals very dedicated to what they do. Leafs are taking steps. They might be the number one seed in the north.
@@creepyrobsta5509 0/10 for originality
I've never seen a fan so impressed by his team's equipment staff, lol. Definitely original
Get that $ Matthews. Its about time elite NHL players are starting to rise in the pro sports markets. Basketball and baseball especially, as well as NFL players make upwards of 100 mil in their career. Ben Roethlisberger had made ove a qtr of a bilkion dollars through his 18 yr career with the Steelers and thats take home dude. The skill to play hockey at this level supercedes other sports. Great video THG
@Obi Wan Huh. Im saying that NHL players deserve more big deal contracts. The NHL needs to bring in more money to raise the salary cap to allow those deals to take place.
Was looking at the board for a second thinking about who Zozi Ufas was
Would Shannon's reaction to the Boston flub in the draft be as viral as Steve dangle's reaction to the David Ayres game?
Hey.. i just wanna say, im not a huge fan of the hole salary comparison..
i think for most teams salary doesnt matter.. the cap hit is what matters;
I like the video idea, but wouldve been happier about it if you talked about the cap numbers
I counter with crosby, guentzel, and rust.
When are you going to do the NHL Mascot power rankings. Rangers don't have an NHL Mascot. Let the cat choose :)
If Florida could pickup laine that would be awesome to see him and barkov together
It’s crazy that Draisaitl isn’t on this list
Also the taxes in Ontario
Does bonuses get counted towards cap hit? For example if teams put things like score 30 goals and you get certain amount etc
There are no performance bonuses for most players - just ELCs and 1 year deals for 35+ players.
no it's extra pay
And salaries in the NHL is nothing compared to the salaries in the other major sports
Hockey also doesn't generate the money that other sports do. All goes hand in hand
Leafs sweater?? Did you lose a bet?
why you gotta bring up that BOS draft :( still hurts
With about 11 points on the season Getzlaf needs a pay cut stat
Krejci will probably be done this season also. If he does come back to the Bruins, I think he gets around 4-5 million for a couple years, 2-3 maybe. Not worth much more at this point, and he will be 35 next season.
Halak I think is going to move on, unfortunately. Rask not sure about him yet. His injury that came back again is a concern.
Carlo better stay in Boston, I'm a bigger fan of him than McAvoy (waiting for all the comments on how McAvoy is the best ever).
Why, WHY, would Reinhardt stay in Buffalo unless they WAY overpay him?
Because he isn't a UFA?
Does Toronto have too much money laying around???
RNH and Hyman are pretty important to their teams.
RNH is overrated as hell
I think RNH is expendable. Too expensive to be a 3rd liner and not as dynamic in the top 6.
@@bradleyhenry2411 he's a top 6 winger but definitely not a top 6 center, the dude has a 44% on faceoffs
@@michaelkerber3337 I think it's because I'm comparing him with the likes of Ehlers & Connor which is probably unfair.
Zach Hyman is easily the most underpaid (any other year he’s easily doubling his salary).
Sergei Bobrovsky is the most overpaid. His numbers have improved compared to last year but he is still under the league average for save percentage.
I can only reflect a little around the team I follow most, Preds, and only with cap hit as an argument. As with many of today's teams, Preds
struggle with a number of these 6 year contracts in the area of ca $7M or more. Of our bluechips, only Josi with 9 delivers close to the expected payback.
Guys like Johansen/8M and Duchene/8M are nowhere close to expected results. Forsberg/6M is relatively cheap as a bluechip, but he also is
on the borderline of underperforming. Again, as with many teams, we simply do not have a 1.line that delivers up to expected level.
The reason why Preds got back into PO position again is first and foremost due to insane goaltending by Saros and great grit and defence by our
secondary lines. Kudos to our 4.line-'The Herd', which lead by Sissons must be one of the best 4.lines in the league right now.
As usual, our D-men are doing fine, with Ekholm as our sergeant-major in Josi's absence, and more working their way up the roster.
The D-core and knowledge thereof is the pride and tradition of the Nasville Predators as a franchise
Is there a good reason Cap hit is not the same as salary? I'm pretty confused.
Contracts are structured so that players don't make exactly the same amount each year. This is especially important for players who become RFAs because the qualifying offer is the *salary* that the player makes in the final year of his contract, and not the cap hit.
What would buffalo even ask for eichel in return? That trade would be nuts
That is insane amount of money for Matthews
Shannon, if Ovi or Bossy are #1 or #2 goal scorers ever, where do you put Lemieux?
@Eddy Edwards Nah Ovi is
IMHO ...
Magnificent Mario ( healthy ) was a better player than Gretzky . Think about surrounding talent ...
Again health wise . Bossy ; best , consistent scorer ever . Not even close . 9 straight yrs of fiddy + .
@@steviepea1302 I think Lemieux is the most unstoppable player ever when healthy. A dude that big with the skill he possessed is unheard of. Still think 99 was better tho.
@Eddy Edwards No he's not. Best player ever yes. Not the best goal scorer.
Lemieux was the best goal scorer ever in my opinion. Second best goals per game after Mike bossy while playing in the clutch and grab nineties AND battled cancer and back issues at the same time too. In the 1992-93 season , Lemieux put up 69 goals in 60 games while battling lymphoma and playing in the clutch and grab era. Lemieux> everyone
what are hughes and pettersen going to make? should be 6mill per but some think 10.....11 etc. pay for stats not potential hopefully
@The Bossk You are in fantasy land with those prices. Pettersson had 66 points in 68 games last year and Hughes had 53 points in 68 games as a defensemen, so even as RFA`s they are worth at least 7 million each.
@@creepyrobsta5509 you should probably re read my post.seems your in not paying attention land lol
I could definitely see Zach Hyman in Pittsburgh next season cause of the grit and burke
no hyman will sign with the leafs
@@snipeshow___8925 With what money lol
@@colincurran9275 he loves playing in toronto
@@snipeshow___8925 so he'll take a pay cut? no, he'll want like 3.5-4 mill
10:09
My thoughts EXACTLY. ha!
With all the money that’s been lost over the past two years and the fact that it’s not guaranteed we’ll be totally out of the Covid woods by next fall, I’m not so sure owners will be all that generous with free agents this summer. But, we’ll see. Hopefully, life is looking rosier by July.
Most overpaid: Bob, 100%
Most underpaid: Either Hyman or Copp.
As a Columbus Fan for no particular reason do I have a feeling Jarmo is going on Center Hunt to pair with Laine and that he'd be among the leading bidders if a Jack Eichel trade ever materialized.
A good RFA to note is Igor shersterkin
I think Hyman will sign same contract as toffoli. He's a must to resign
10:09 I laughed way too hard at that
Can we get a Loui Erikkson appreciation vid
The context of WHEN these contracts were created is hugely important.
Why? Production is production and money is money.
@@TheHockeyGuy ...because newer contracts were signed when cap was generally higher. Term and details of contract can also be a factor when comparing annual salary for any given season. And, inflation is also a general consideration. Good discussion though.
One more thing... taxes by location of team. Thanks.
The fact that Leon Draisaitl isn't here is hilarious
How about Sidney Crosby?
@@seanweatherson534 Crosby contract is old, as Shannon stated, it was market value at the time.
@@goose5462 market value at the time was definitely not 8.78787... million dollars for the best player in the world at that time
@@goose5462 especially considering ovechkin, who definitely is not as good of a player, signed a contract for $9.53 million aav 4 years prior to Crosby signing his, if Crosby were going for market value based on ovi’s contract he could’ve made probably around $10.5 million aav.
@@seanweatherson534 All around player, nope, but best goal score ever, way more durable then Crosby, doesnt whine like crosby. OV isn't as good, but I would still pick him over Crosby. Also 2007 to 2011 both Crosby and OV made 9M a season, they were 2nd highest(going by the number on Wiki for NHL salaries)
McDavid is by far the best player in the league, he is third.
for a moment I thought who the heck is Zozi Rfas? Must be a new Kazakh player or something..
Where is Draisaitl?
where is Carey Price on that list with 10,5 m ?
You forgot malkin and letang
The Bruins' perfection line all make under 7 million.
Columbus has to qualify Laine at 7.5M+, he's still a movable asset not a bargain but definitely has trade value. The option is there for a sign and trade if they feel he's not a fit in Columbus.
Its almost funny how laine was a better fit in winnipeg, and dubois in columbus, both haven't found success yet lol. The game is moving away from torts coaching style, or else this revolving door of players entering and leaving will continue
filip forsberg needs to be on this list. hes the preds best scorer. prolly ever by the end. and hes just at 6 million. im glad fiala and craig smith are doing good.
He is under contract until 2022.
@@TheHockeyGuy sorry i didnt fully read the title. hes not exactly high salaried.
11:30 mackinonn just had pts vs number 2 goalie
Leaf fan here... I would've much rather have seen Rielly named captian and that Tavares money gone toward a couple of good defencemen. Never been a fan of that signing.
"OK Mr. Benning..." LMAO