Will The ABANDONED Cadillac's 51 year old AC System WORK Again?

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
  • For reasons unknown to myself, we're going to try repair and refill this 1970 Cadillacs Air Conditioning system. It was originally a r112 system, and is now a r134. Think it will actually work and blow cold?
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  • @HornetKingOfficial
    @HornetKingOfficial Před 3 lety +1049

    I bet a guy could tickle the video scrollerlator to skip to the end of the video, nope, probably not. I'll do the right thing and watch the whole video RIGHT now!

  • @hankgs
    @hankgs Před 3 lety +363

    "...kids, country-western songs and Yoga pants..." That gave me a good laugh!!! Thanks brother!

    • @truetierra
      @truetierra Před 3 lety +3

      I had to run out and tell the missus this one. Far out what a classic line!

    • @yeldog11
      @yeldog11 Před 3 lety +3

      Made me spit my coffee out...went up my nose.

    • @shabadoo24
      @shabadoo24 Před 3 lety +4

      Things that don't lie

    • @MicroSoftner
      @MicroSoftner Před 3 lety

      lol

    • @mattm6064
      @mattm6064 Před 3 lety +2

      Best part of the vid for sure

  • @CherylCold
    @CherylCold Před 3 lety +79

    "3 things in life that don't lie, kids, Country and Western music and Yoga pants". The best line ever!

    • @LAactor
      @LAactor Před 3 lety +3

      I posted #4 above🤣

    • @JB-qg2ki
      @JB-qg2ki Před 3 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @denniseldridge2936
      @denniseldridge2936 Před 3 lety

      Heck, that's a great Country and Western song (both kinds!) in itself, just waiting to be written...

    • @davidtharp7767
      @davidtharp7767 Před 2 lety

      Yoga Pants on an Insecure Man might have a Sweet Potato Stuffed in the Front. & That would be a Lie !!

  • @michaeldangelo3525
    @michaeldangelo3525 Před 3 lety +157

    Vacuum leak or bad diaphragm on the diverter vent ! Awesomely to see your family work with you! The family that wrenches together stays together 👍

    • @cocacola3452
      @cocacola3452 Před 3 lety +17

      I agree with diaphragm vacuum issue.. Also, if you have a hard time reading something, use your phone to take a picture of the label, then zoom the photo in.

    • @ernst_junger
      @ernst_junger Před 3 lety +2

      That’s exactly what I was about to comment. Vacuum leak or bad diaphragm

    • @colinklang
      @colinklang Před 3 lety +3

      @@cocacola3452 I do the same thing. The ol eagles eyes aren't what they used to be

    • @Dark_Knight_USA
      @Dark_Knight_USA Před 3 lety +5

      Ur probably correct. I would have 2 listen 2 it. If 1 hears vaccuum and no leaks the door may B jammed. Could B the critters. "Probably not". Just "do the right thing" and use cardboard 2 divert the airflow. Grab dome dryer hose 4 the rear seat area. On another note: My '70 ragtop blew ice crystals on the OEM system (R12) Long B4 R134a was thought of. Back in the 70s -90s when I had it. The old Frigidaire System was a real "ice cube" maker. I can never get R134a 2 get below 36°. My R12 wouldn't run on cold. At med high temp it would blow ice crystals all day. This was in the desert. Top that R134a. Ahhh the good old days when society cared about what they did. That is Y our Caddys ran 50years later. This new junk is designed 2 B in the shop inside a year and expired life of 5-7yrs so U will buy more new junk. Also if U hit or something hits U hard the new vehicle is TL. My was Caddy was driven thru a garage wall (not by me) and it just scratched the front of the hood a little. 2day U fart and melt paint.

    • @billybassman21
      @billybassman21 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Dark_Knight_USA I knew someone that had a Z28 from the 80s and it would get in the upper 40s inside the cab on max. R12 worked better on hot days when sitting idle. I remember doing drivers ed back in 94. They had brand new Buick's that used the "new" 134a refrigerant. The AC worked so bad when idle that we ended up rolling the windows down. They got much better over time by making the coils bigger and fine tuning the metering device, but they still struggle on hot days in traffic.

  • @stacyedwards6050
    @stacyedwards6050 Před 3 lety +184

    My son loves watching you, my son is 20yrs and he works on cars with his grandpa(my dad) every weekend, they have so much fun!!!

    • @ViceGripGarage
      @ViceGripGarage  Před 3 lety +61

      Awesome

    • @gr8fulpn
      @gr8fulpn Před 3 lety +19

      Love how my boys come to ask me how to do something on their cars. Well ya see if you had paid attention when I tried showin’ ya … but at least they listen now LOL

    • @kerrylewis2581
      @kerrylewis2581 Před 3 lety +12

      Those are memories your son will cherish now and for the rest of his life. How do I know this? I'm 61 and still think about wrenching with my grandfather to this day.

    • @unclerick8224
      @unclerick8224 Před 3 lety +3

      I am blessed to have had a Dad like Derick in that he had me help him with his at home automotive repair business. A guy learned a lot from his dearly departed Dad. (RIP)

  • @chucklindenberg1093
    @chucklindenberg1093 Před 3 lety +27

    You disconnected the vacuum lines that allow the ac controllator to work, in an earlier episode and capped them with blue, yellow? vacuum caps.

  • @twilkinson960
    @twilkinson960 Před 3 lety +92

    You've spent more time with your boys in three videos than my Dad spent with my brother and I the whole time we were growing up. Big thumbs up.. Keep on keeping on and one day you'll look around and see two great young men. OOps, meant to say three.

    • @kenbrown9094
      @kenbrown9094 Před 3 lety +6

      I can relate to your dad comment, fortunately my mates dad taught me a few things about cars for which I am forever grateful.

    • @krackpack1
      @krackpack1 Před 3 lety +4

      I still call my dad any time I'm trying to fix something new or build something new. I'm sorry you guys didn't have that. I wish I could of shared my dad with your guys.

    • @canuckgarage
      @canuckgarage Před 3 lety +1

      Same. I loved my Dad. I really did (still do even though he's gone). I vividly remember all the times he was around to as a boy. His job kept him away from us and as an adult I know it must have been killing him inside. After he retired at 60 (made possible from that job that kept him away) I saw more of him than I ever had as a child. Better late than never. I think he was trying to make up for the lost time. Never got to tell him I appreciated that. Lung and brain cancer (FROM SMOKING!) took him away before I had the chance. He'd have seen his Great Great Grandchild like his father did.
      TL:DR Spent as much time and involve your kids with you when they are young. Trust me they will appreciate it later.

  • @chrisambler1357
    @chrisambler1357 Před 3 lety +92

    GM has been using vacuum to change the modes of the AC for ages. I know, checking all the vacuum lines will be near impossible, but that's where I would start. Good luck!

    • @earlhollar1906
      @earlhollar1906 Před 3 lety +19

      It's not too bad you just start with the blend door canister if it's got vacuum there , the diaphragm is defective. If no vacuum at that line ,see if there is vacuum to the slider switch. If not, start at the beginning where the rubber hoses will get hot and cracking and you lose your vacuum right at the intake manifold, and then work your way outward yeah, outwards, outward yeah! LOL

    • @mcy1122
      @mcy1122 Před 3 lety +4

      My family had a 68 Eldorado. Lots of systems worked on vacuum, including the doors that routed air. Lots of leaks develop over time - even without the help of mice! Thanks for the great content!

    • @MicroSoftner
      @MicroSoftner Před 3 lety +3

      99 chevy blazer was a dry rotted vacuum line, fixed four wheel drive and vent control....

    • @ImTheJoker4u
      @ImTheJoker4u Před 3 lety +3

      Worst case the blend door is jammed/broken, and the heater box has to come out, which means tearing the entire dash apart😬

    • @jasonrose3620
      @jasonrose3620 Před 3 lety +4

      Most of the time the the vacuum line from the intake gets dry rotten and leaks. Sometimes it is unplugged or someone hooked it wrong and it is pulling when it should push or vise versa.

  • @badboybubby7794
    @badboybubby7794 Před 3 lety +157

    Any water vapour in the AC system (and yeah it's there) will react with the R134a and create hydroflouric acid, which will eat the lines, evaporator, condenser and the pump housing. That's why you vacuum it down first

    • @darkdelta
      @darkdelta Před 3 lety +15

      I was wondering why no vacuum pull also.

    • @mikeh5952
      @mikeh5952 Před 3 lety +27

      Should replace the drier also.

    • @MikeSmith-ch7jv
      @MikeSmith-ch7jv Před 3 lety +9

      so glad this has been mentioned pull a vacuum please!

    • @km-zu6qm
      @km-zu6qm Před 3 lety +21

      Well I for one, did not. And it's still blowing ice cold after 12 years. No recharges. Sometimes you just have to dance with the devil 😎

    • @mikeh5952
      @mikeh5952 Před 3 lety +9

      @@km-zu6qm it will still work. I did it as a kid with an old Chevy Citation and the air did work. It's just not proper practice to charge an a/c system without evacuating it first. Sometimes they just won't work as well at idle because you have a system full of air that you have added refrigerant to and it can't operate as efficiently because the air that is in it is taking up room where refrigerant could be instead. I love fixing air conditioning. I even got an older recover/recycle/evacuate/charge machine. Haven't had to use the R-12 part of the machine lol.

  • @dooley9621
    @dooley9621 Před 3 lety +97

    I've noticed your little bloke has taken a big interest in helping Dad in the workshop. Hope your paying him well lol. Keep up the hard work little man.

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF Před 3 lety +6

      he will get his own truck... or two... or three.

    • @dooley9621
      @dooley9621 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MindBlowerWTF haha I have no doubt of that. Hopefully he keeps the farm and the old utes of your grandfather's going when it's his turn.

    • @LAactor
      @LAactor Před 3 lety

      I forget which one is which but one is getting Lawsuit and I forget which is going to who now but I think they're gonna be well taken care of. And at the same time taught nothing is given all is earned.

  • @robertolerota4234
    @robertolerota4234 Před 3 lety +80

    Holy shit, it's been a big year for vgg. I subbed at like 100k. All of a sudden almost a million! Right on buddy!

    • @ViceGripGarage
      @ViceGripGarage  Před 3 lety +36

      👊

    • @warrenmichael918
      @warrenmichael918 Před 3 lety +10

      I wish youtube would show us when we subbed to each channel, maybe it does but i dont know how to see it . lol

    • @MrPaige222
      @MrPaige222 Před 3 lety +11

      He's grown like a weed because it's hard to find a funny, smart, and genuine person on CZcams.
      Everyone is sharing his channel and it's probably going to be over 5m within a year.

    • @hawkdsl
      @hawkdsl Před 3 lety +9

      I subbed 3 years ago... It was just me a a fella named Fred Licktenstiger back then...

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      @tubehound69 Před 3 lety +4

      I found this channel while wasting time on CZcams during the early parts of covid.

  • @FloridaMan0561
    @FloridaMan0561 Před 3 lety +16

    This man makes awesome content and he deserves every like he gets! Thanks for the years of great videos man!

  • @ayryz1
    @ayryz1 Před 3 lety +164

    Great video! I love the updates on this car!
    Now for the A/C... The doodad near the top of the firewall with the vacuum hoses attached that looks sorta like a power window motor but flatter. These controle the vacuum for the position of the air outlets. They can get stuck, especially after setting so long. DO NOT use lubricant inside! This will destroy the seals and render it totally useless. You can use distilled water as a temporary lubricant inside the vacuum circuit housing but only if absolutely necessary. You mentioned you thought you heard a leak, it could have been a vacuum hose . Check all the vacuum hoses attached to the control unit, they can break easily under all that heat and from time. I hope this gives a little help.
    I always love watching what you get up to and learning with you !

    • @XH1927
      @XH1927 Před 3 lety +8

      I used to frequent a forum for the old Honda VTR250 Interceptor and a member there discovered that oil of wintergreen was great at reconditioning old carburetor boots that had gone stiff. Might work here.

    • @michaelbaka4777
      @michaelbaka4777 Před 3 lety +15

      Had a '70 Caddy with this same issue. It was a split vacuum hose all right, but at the control switch. Replaced it and worked GREAT afterward!!!!

    • @K9EMT
      @K9EMT Před 3 lety +3

      If'n a guy was a little more timely he could have bleep blooped his comment in here before now, but a guy's just going to go ahead and agree with this one right here. Check those firewall vacuum hoses.
      I have a 1990 Isuzu Trooper that had the exact same problem. Couldn't switch to defrost because the hose was cracked and disconnected

    • @stephensaasen8589
      @stephensaasen8589 Před 3 lety +3

      I kinda guessed if the duct controls weren't operated with cables it would most likely be vacuum operated. Chrysler liked to use vacuum on most all of their makes into the 1990's. The wife had a 1992 Plymouth Acclaim. A rabbit (yes, a rabbit!) chewed the main vacuum line for HVAC one time and all I could get was defrost. For your Caddy, 1970 was a few years before they thought to use electronical digical controls.

  • @creekdweller9662
    @creekdweller9662 Před 3 lety +77

    Derrick, your son will grow up knowing how to do a few things in the garage. My father and I shared some of the best times under the hood of a car. He has been gone 40 years now, and hardly a day passes without me thinking of those good times.

    • @armedinbama
      @armedinbama Před 3 lety +4

      Very lucky man to have those memories. Hope you created some new ones with a young-un.
      CHEERS! 🇺🇸

    • @paulday6875
      @paulday6875 Před 3 lety +8

      I just lost mine a week ago. Same types of memories building junkers. If you want a good listen to bring back those precious moments, try "daddy's cup" by drive by truckers. Listened to it in the funeral procession and really brought the memory back.

  • @Timberland1963
    @Timberland1963 Před 8 měsíci +2

    The video of the revival of this car was the first VGG video I watched and at that point I was hooked.

  • @KoJo-qh9od
    @KoJo-qh9od Před 3 lety +49

    Kudos to Bentley, he is one hard working young man with a great future ahead.

  • @greavous93
    @greavous93 Před 3 lety +174

    Id look for a crapped out vacuum hose that moves the flappers and routes the air from floor to vents and various combos.

    • @stevepartridge75
      @stevepartridge75 Před 3 lety +14

      Yep. Most likely it's tore up along the firewall somewhere.

    • @Randyluck1
      @Randyluck1 Před 3 lety +16

      @@stevepartridge75 The mice might have been chewing but the GM vacuum balls are notorious failure points.

    • @olddragondude4398
      @olddragondude4398 Před 3 lety +19

      Blend door is probly okay....nope.
      Probly got stuck with mouse juice.

    • @jayjenkins4721
      @jayjenkins4721 Před 3 lety +8

      My first thought was vacuum lines. My AC/Heat control unit took a crap on my 97 Jeep TJ so I bought a "new" (junkyard stock) unit and replaced it. There must have been 8 or 25 vacuum lines attached that control all of the different modes. First install and I didn't have the lines mated up quite enough and nothing worked. Reinstalled after cramming the mating point together as tight as I could and everything worked.

    • @garycook2355
      @garycook2355 Před 3 lety +3

      could be a bad vacuum motor also.

  • @Ray96744
    @Ray96744 Před 3 lety +7

    A guy was having a tough day, week year even but then the new episode of vice grip garage came up and this guy feels a whole lot better. Love your videos awesome family this is what America is all about.

  • @2kode692
    @2kode692 Před 3 lety +119

    could honestly watch these videos literally all day long.

    • @koolaid6152
      @koolaid6152 Před 3 lety +1

      ...nope... probably not...

    • @TheDubster.
      @TheDubster. Před 3 lety +3

      Can confirm

    • @daveswinfield
      @daveswinfield Před 3 lety +3

      Oh ya...a guy has been known to do that...

    • @MegaEaglelover
      @MegaEaglelover Před 3 lety +4

      A Fella has spent a couple days doin just that… went on marathon type trip… an boy was it fun

    • @klc3478
      @klc3478 Před 3 lety +4

      Me too! That’s why he’s got almost 900 thousand subscribers.

  • @joshuacullins3152
    @joshuacullins3152 Před 3 lety +71

    Thank god. My Saturday night just got better. Vice grip garage is the best thing on CZcams.

  • @Stretch-1982
    @Stretch-1982 Před 3 lety +8

    I love seeing you all work together as a family! You are a good man Derek!

  • @tomdixon1213
    @tomdixon1213 Před 3 lety +41

    I love that ya got Bentley and Jessica involved in this project…i would love to see you and the family get dressed up and go for a classic American cruise in this massive machine.

  • @terrallputnam7979
    @terrallputnam7979 Před 3 lety +27

    Jessica is a good sport helping you work on these old beauties. Great family Derek. You are blessed!

  • @Dave-nl6vo
    @Dave-nl6vo Před 3 lety +58

    Set of gauges and a vacuum would've went a long way. Love this guy though.

    • @castirondude
      @castirondude Před 3 lety +2

      yup, get a vacuum pump , gauges and a Yellowjacket leak detector. The leak detectors find amazingly small leaks, takes a lot of the guesswork out of it.

    • @BobWiersema
      @BobWiersema Před 2 lety +1

      And the correct amount of 134. When switching from 12 to 134 the volume is about 80% of the R12 charge. Simple formula: (R12 Charge Specification x 0.9) - 0.25 lbs. = R134a Charge Level. (4 lbs. x 0.9) - 0.25 lbs. = 3.35 lbs.

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr Před 2 lety

      The walmart cheap stuff works fine I've never had a problem with any of mine

  • @AtomicFallout757
    @AtomicFallout757 Před 3 lety +73

    A guy has really been enjoying all the attention you've been giving this ol' boat lately! A beautiful car that deserves it! Keep up the amazing work guys!

  • @rodneypidcock6903
    @rodneypidcock6903 Před 3 lety +55

    I'd bet you're gonna have to replace some vacuum lines for the blend and mode doors under the dash, and maybe an actuator to get the air outta the dash vents.

    • @joemoskowitz7427
      @joemoskowitz7427 Před 3 lety +7

      I had a 79 Coupe Deville for a long time, and I'm remembering vacuum lines being a real pain for a guy.

    • @willis3721
      @willis3721 Před 3 lety +1

      +1 definitely

    • @richraff6086
      @richraff6086 Před 3 lety +7

      There is a vacuum canister under the hood somewhere. Check to see if there is vacuum to it and that it holds vacuum. They tend to rust through. Any vacuum hoses that have been chewed through by the little furry creatures will also cause your blend doors to not function, default position is floor vents.
      BTW, the bubbles passing under the sight glass indicates air in the system. This can be caused by low refrigerant level. In your case, it's probably due to you not drawing a vacuum in the system before charging. If it blows cold enough, no worries, but a vacuum pump draws not only the air out of the system but it evaporates the moisture.

    • @chucklindenberg1093
      @chucklindenberg1093 Před 3 lety +1

      If a guy's brain case is operating with 21.6% efficiency there was some vacuum lines disconnected and capped with blue or yellow caps in an earlier episode, that probably might not be the problem.

    • @carlashton9331
      @carlashton9331 Před 3 lety +1

      I’ve had vacuum lines crumble apart in much newer rigs than this

  • @rionsummers5939
    @rionsummers5939 Před 3 lety +9

    Love this car and the journey you are taking us on during the restoration. I’m learning a ton. Thanks Derek!

  • @HeyItsCoates
    @HeyItsCoates Před 3 lety +17

    Bentley is becoming quite a fixture on the channel, hell yeah little brother!

  • @OldChief27
    @OldChief27 Před 3 lety +26

    Glad to see you got the A/C back to the chillin’ mode. Here in the Sunshine State we use that A/C 355 days a year, the other 10 days of the year we don’t drive.

    • @robertburns3014
      @robertburns3014 Před 3 lety +2

      Dats da trufe! I've lived all over Florida and it's 1000 degrees just about all year long wherever you live in this State! It's home though, what are ya gonna do? ☀

    • @neil6212
      @neil6212 Před 3 lety +2

      Yep. My friends up North laughed like crazy when they heard I ordered a car with 4 speed and factory air!

    • @whammond511
      @whammond511 Před 3 lety +1

      @@robertburns3014 It’s not the temp. that keeps me out of FL; it’s the extraordinarily high humidity……..and the Gargantuan insects!! I’ll leave that to others!!

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto Před 3 lety +1

      Yep I'm from Miami. Tell me about it.

  • @michaeljamison8254
    @michaeljamison8254 Před 3 lety +4

    I really enjoy it when you share all the cool things you tried that worked out, like that cleaning spray. Very fun.

  • @timwoods603
    @timwoods603 Před 3 lety +52

    I love how Jessica laughs in the back ground at Derek lol

    • @braydeny
      @braydeny Před 3 lety +3

      I love everything she does

    • @MrChassmith
      @MrChassmith Před 3 lety +2

      Make a woman laugh every day and she's yours for life...

    • @datasailor8132
      @datasailor8132 Před 3 lety +1

      Didn’t another Jessica say: “He makes me laugh.”

  • @stapler314
    @stapler314 Před 3 lety +38

    Love your vids man you inspired me to be a mechanic in the army. Living the dream HOOAH!

    • @LS1sLegoGarage
      @LS1sLegoGarage Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you kind sir for your service!

    • @kevinl.2291
      @kevinl.2291 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for your service 👍😎✌️

    • @briansutton7764
      @briansutton7764 Před 3 lety +2

      I imagine your work load just a a little bit lighter. Like sand Through The Hourglass, it should have been added to the transmissions and motors some where to the East. Stay safe out there, where ever you are.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy Před 3 lety +3

      I was inspired to change on my own oil. Baby steps lol

    • @stapler314
      @stapler314 Před 3 lety +3

      @@briansutton7764 thanks, I'm still in the states since I'm in an MP unit but I'm doing my first transmission job and it's been tough but not too bad 👌

  • @jimmevis5286
    @jimmevis5286 Před 3 lety +2

    Derek, I have a 69. The vent control is controlled by vacuum. Look under the dash by the fuse box, there are two vacuum lines there. Also, just to the right of the fan relay there is another vac line going to the canister to control the vents.

  • @ShadowsOnTheScreen
    @ShadowsOnTheScreen Před 3 lety +16

    Cmon Derrick, go all in and fix the rust and put a new vinyl top on it! Make it look awesome!

  • @DishNetworkDealerNEO
    @DishNetworkDealerNEO Před 3 lety +31

    The old stuff is R12, you also have to add a POE/Ester oil additive to the mineral oil to make it compatible with R134A.

    • @DishNetworkDealerNEO
      @DishNetworkDealerNEO Před 3 lety +13

      @Disk Horse this is an explanation as to the original Mineral Oil used with R12 chlorofluorocarbon based Refrigerant, PAG Oil used with R134A Propane based refrigerant.
      MINERAL OIL
      Up until the early 1990s, mineral oil was the lubricant of choice because it mixed easily and well with the R-12 (freon) refrigerant that was universally used at the time. When R-12 was phased out in 1994 due to its ozone-depleting properties, however, a new refrigerant oil was required which mixed well with the new ozone-friendlier R-134a which took its place.
      Summary: Mineral Oil is used on R-12 systems, primarily on cars built prior to 1995.
      PAG OIL
      Polyelkylene Glycol (PAG) oil is a synthetic oil used by OEMs in their R-134a systems. PAG oils are harsher than mineral oils, and may cause skin irritation and damage O-rings and seals. There are different viscosities of PAG oil being used by OEMs: PAG 46, which is the most popular; PAG 100, which is also common; and PAG 150, which is more rarely used. FJC offers PAG oils in all three viscosities, and also offers each PAG option with Extreme Cold or Fluorescent Dye additives. FJC also offers a “Universal PAG oil” which is a variable viscosity oil that can replace any of the other three.
      Summary: PAG Oil is used on R-134a systems from about 1995-2015. Check your manufacturer’s recommendation for proper type of oil as well as specific viscosity.
      POE/ESTER OIL
      Because mineral oil and PAG oil cannot be mixed, another A/C compressor oil was needed to bridge the gap for system conversions. The transitional solution was polyol ester oil (“ester” oil or POE). Ester oil is often called “retrofit oil” because it mixes with both R-12 and R-134a. Like PAG oil, Ester oil is a synthetic lubricant. Ester molecules are very stable and have excellent performance characteristics in both high and low temperature environments. Ester oil comes in only one viscosity so it does not include the viscosity numbers associated with PAG oils. FJC offers Ester oil with Extreme Cold and Fluorescent Dye additives. Since R-12 was phased out in 1994, vehicles newer than 1995 typically do not contain ester oil as the lubricant for the A/C system.
      Summary: POE Oil is used for retrofitting R-12 systems (pre-1995) to R-134a.
      R-1234yf OIL
      While R-134a has dominated the U.S. market for the past two decades, it too is beginning to be replaced by a new refrigerant. Although R-134a does not deplete the ozone layer, it has been shown to have a high global warming potential (GWP). For this reason, R-1234yf was developed and began to be phased into US vehicles in 2015. However, just as the discontinuation of R-12 necessitated the use of newer oils, the introduction of R-1234yf has also brought about the need for new specific R-1234yf A/C compressor oils.
      Summary: Refrigerant R-1234yf uses its own specific R-1234yf oil.
      The changing environmental regulations has put the onus on shop owners and technicians to be stocked with a wide array of A/C compressor oils, equipment and knowledge to accommodate whichever vehicle rolls into their shop.

    • @kevinlimo696
      @kevinlimo696 Před 3 lety +2

      It had already been converted to 134

    • @paulriggers1558
      @paulriggers1558 Před 3 lety +4

      @@DishNetworkDealerNEO 1234yf is rotting out the condensers in european cars at an alarming rate [2yrs for nissans] + it costs a fortune. our systems over here take an average 500g at a cost of £80 to the dealer, so its £130 ish to refill an average car [cost to customer]
      back street garages [shade tree garages?] are just refilling with pure LPG, should be interesting in a crash....
      electric cars are using a refined 1234yf system, so u need 3 different AC machines in the workshop
      testing must be done with nitrogen, jailtime if you leak gas into the enviroment, but at its current price, you couldnt afford to waste it....

    • @bonniejohnson1518
      @bonniejohnson1518 Před 3 lety

      @@paulriggers1558 actually all Freon is flammable because of the oil in it...R12a is an excellent replacement...the flammable fear thing is very small concern if any..i dont think they have one reported incident in Canada which uses R12a, which is a consumer product replacement in a can for R134a sold in all auto parts stores..R12a doesn't need to be put in an evacuated system, and moister in the system is not harmful like it is with R134a....also no adapters of any kind are needed when going from 134a to R12a.........willie

  • @andrewsutton7727
    @andrewsutton7727 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video, when shops were converting systems years ago, they used to recommend changing just about everything in the system before changing the service adapters and charging it with R134A. Now I'm seeing the bare minimum being done and having a working system! Nice work! Definitely a vacuum issue, however, usually defaults to defrost vents.

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr Před 2 lety

      The blend door is probably stuck in the last place it was used

  • @batemanclan2
    @batemanclan2 Před 3 lety +48

    You need to pull a vacuum before you charge an a/c system to get all the moisture out. It will make it work much better.

    • @RABBITMotorworks
      @RABBITMotorworks Před 3 lety +4

      My mind was telling me the same but didn’t want to be that guy, from what I read as doing this right now too is air and moisture in the system makes an acid that will chew up the compressor leading to failure

    • @batemanclan2
      @batemanclan2 Před 3 lety +3

      @@RABBITMotorworks I've been doing refrigeration for 20 years and you're correct.

    • @hotpuppy1
      @hotpuppy1 Před 3 lety +5

      @@RABBITMotorworks That and it's best to replace the dryer since system had no charge in it to start with. It'll be contaminated. Chances are whoever changed it to 134-a didn't bother to change out the hoses or anything else so it'll lose the charge after a bit. Hoses for 134 are lined and the compressor uses different oil than r-12. Old GM a/c's were complicated, used more gasoline to run them with that big A-6 compressor running all the time, but they were great.

    • @StrongEnough78
      @StrongEnough78 Před 3 lety +8

      He also forgot to mention flushing the R12 mineral oil out, replacing the accumulator and adding PAG oil to the system before applying a vacuum and charging with R134a. Plus he kept calling it 112 instead of R12. This all worries me.

    • @StrongEnough78
      @StrongEnough78 Před 3 lety +1

      Plus you only use 80% of the R12 charge with R134a.

  • @jimrusso1988
    @jimrusso1988 Před 3 lety +85

    When a guy can’t get his peepers to read a label, a guy takes a picture of it with the old smart device and looks at it all blowed up.

    • @XH1927
      @XH1927 Před 3 lety +12

      It's truly amazing common cell phone cameras have gotten so hi-res that this actually works. You can even use the flash to throw stuff into relief and zoom into read old worn out stampings or coins.

    • @mikehynes6632
      @mikehynes6632 Před 3 lety +3

      Was gonna say the same thing.

    • @adrianbellamy5060
      @adrianbellamy5060 Před 3 lety +3

      Oor he could just ask his wife to read it you know what there like are you blind its right there.

    • @sociallyinept5430
      @sociallyinept5430 Před 3 lety +1

      Show off

    • @Gismo3333
      @Gismo3333 Před 3 lety +1

      I do that to… What was the chance of that happening… Maybe 7589 out of 8000 times…

  • @onemilemore541
    @onemilemore541 Před 3 lety +4

    Love your work, Derek! As for the direction of the ice cubes. My brother drove a 79 Firebird for years with the breeze coming from either the floor or the vents. Don't remember which now... The day I bought the car from him, I found a small plastic vacuum line under the hood was disconnected. Found the spot where it seemed it should plug in (vacuum) and voila! Breeze directional changes!

  • @mrjamesbonney
    @mrjamesbonney Před 3 lety +89

    The wifes giggles during strength comments, PRICELESS!

  • @dylindambrosio8353
    @dylindambrosio8353 Před 3 lety +60

    Well I'll be dipped! Derrick never fails to just hook a fellers peepers right in to another great vidjeo! Hats off to ya!

  • @williamwebb9094
    @williamwebb9094 Před rokem

    It brings me a lot of joy and happiness just watching your videos guy keep them coming thanks for the pick me up

  • @ryanjennings4329
    @ryanjennings4329 Před 3 lety +44

    The ac vents are vacuum operated. There’s probably a dried up and cracked line somewhere

    • @mdkzztop
      @mdkzztop Před 3 lety

      That's what i was gonna say.

    • @faircompetition1203
      @faircompetition1203 Před 3 lety +6

      Yep , but they fail to defrost for safety reasons . Probably a seized damper and weak / leaking vacuum .

    • @66underconstruction36
      @66underconstruction36 Před 3 lety

      Yup

    • @jackolson8775
      @jackolson8775 Před 3 lety

      I know you guys are correct, but isn't there a spring/counterweight under there too?

    • @faircompetition1203
      @faircompetition1203 Před 3 lety +5

      @@jackolson8775 Yes , it is supposed to fail in the defrost position if the vacuum fails . Given that is the position the door should have seized in while parked then there is more going on here . It was either busted before being parked , the door moved to there on vacuum when he tried it and the spring won't return it or the mice chewed off the door .

  • @DanKruty
    @DanKruty Před 3 lety +9

    A feller thought for sure you were pluggin a sponsorship at 2:55 but nah you’re just doin the right thing and education us. 👌🏻

  • @neutrodyne
    @neutrodyne Před 3 lety +1

    I love the videos that Vise grip garage puts out. I Converted my old AMC car I had from R12 to R134 back in day when they were going from R12 to 134. What I had to do was to also add a special oil along with the new 134 so that the 134 would not destroy the system. As I remember the old oil used in the R12 systems was not compatable with the the new R134 so you had to add the new oil with additives. I never had any problems with it after that. I also vacuumed the system out first.

  • @jeffreyevens2033
    @jeffreyevens2033 Před 3 lety +25

    AC does stand for "Artic Chill." Awesome job by the coolest guy. Maybe install a couple of those cold snack holders down on the floor. That would be nice!

  • @victoriadurham29
    @victoriadurham29 Před 3 lety +32

    You need a blend door actuator. It will be located under the dash somewhere, it diverts the air to the upper vents or the floor or the windshield.

    • @The3chordwonder
      @The3chordwonder Před 3 lety +11

      It could be a vacuum leak to the actuator as well, I've seen that happen before. Those vacuum hoses are like filet mignon to rats.

    • @michaelcoonce6694
      @michaelcoonce6694 Před 3 lety +4

      No blend door on that baby it's all vacuum there is probably a bad hose under the hood

    • @WizzRacing
      @WizzRacing Před 3 lety +5

      Them old cars never used electric actuators..They were all cables and rods...I bet the blend is stuck from trash in it...Then the rod popped off the control lever or broke..

    • @victoriadurham29
      @victoriadurham29 Před 3 lety

      @AkshonClips see correction below, I’m trying now to figure out how the 1970 Cadillac worked. Do you know what the part is called?

    • @victoriadurham29
      @victoriadurham29 Před 3 lety +1

      A vacuum pod?

  • @jefft2259
    @jefft2259 Před 3 lety +2

    This is by far one of the best channels on youtube for this genre and Derek is an awesome human being. Always looking forward to new episodes. That said, I would caution on the oversimplification of AC work, that is of course if you actually want it to be a sustaining repair that doesn't require dumping $30 worth of freon into the system every week. You either do it right or it wont work or last, there's no brute forcing it. Leaks need to be tracked down and component replacement procedures need to be performed with utmost attention to cleanliness and precision... unless, again you dont mind the fix lasting less than a few weeks or less. Fill procedures do require proper equipment but its really not that much of an investment ($30 for gauges, $40 for a pump and whatever you want to spend on freon, i bought the bulk 5 gallon tank but you can purchase an adapter if you want to purchase the smaller cans.) Lastly but most importantly, add the proper amount and correct types of lubricant to the system when replacing components, if you have a slow (manageable) leak that takes a few years to lose any significant amount of pressure then its good practice to add a can of freon that comes precharged with lubricant every once in a while.
    I love properly functioning AC systems in my vehicles, no matter how old they are. Use your system even during the off-season to keep the seals happy and parts moving around. Use it or lose it. Happy wrenching!

  • @rickmalarky9878
    @rickmalarky9878 Před 3 lety +16

    The Caddy continues to be amazing! Go figure. There's 3 things that don't lie, kids, country songs, and yoga pants. .I love it!

    • @robroaring7175
      @robroaring7175 Před 3 lety

      Ditto, mate. That line made me laugh so hard!

    • @gben7084
      @gben7084 Před 3 lety

      that reminded me of Tim Wilson's 100 things everyman should know.....it's on youtube

  • @Beeboop
    @Beeboop Před 3 lety +6

    This got way more technical then I'm used to, I Love it!

  • @walter2990
    @walter2990 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello, I'm Walter..., ViceGrip Garage addict.
    2:15am & I'm still watching old VVG vidgioes.

  • @carsonmeile1718
    @carsonmeile1718 Před 3 lety +19

    My new shirt arrived last night and i love that it says vice grip garage on the back I am wearing right now

  • @marcomoreti7803
    @marcomoreti7803 Před 3 lety +8

    Nice to see your son helping and learning,he'll never forget,good memories :)

  • @Phonejag1
    @Phonejag1 Před 2 lety +2

    Loved this informative video! These late sixties/early seventies Caddies have got about a million vacuum hoses right under the dash on the heater air door… your problem is there… and it’s a fairly simple fix if you can find the vacuum line that goes to the heater shutoff door…. The vacuum line is most likely ”off” or at worst.. cracked and broken. (Sometime just simply cutting off the end and putting it back on will fix it!) Good luck Derek! It should be a-blowin’ out of them air vents soon!

  • @larrydavidson3402
    @larrydavidson3402 Před 3 lety +29

    Always get good laughs watching Derrick's videos, love his crazy phrases.

  • @lyons56m59
    @lyons56m59 Před 3 lety +9

    Derek, your videos have really helped me remember the days my pops and I would be in the shop doing grease monkey stuff, thank you for being you🤙🏻

  • @mattmonteith2175
    @mattmonteith2175 Před 3 lety +5

    I love how he laughs at himself. He's a very funny preson I never met him hope to one day. I call him my friend

  • @MichaelJohnson-gi3qo
    @MichaelJohnson-gi3qo Před 3 lety +8

    Another great video. Good to see Betty getting the attention she deserves. Thanks and keep up the great work.

  • @sharpeidad1055
    @sharpeidad1055 Před 3 lety +53

    Auto AC systems typically leak through the compressor, as it's impossible to seal an indirect drive shaft. You should've evacuated the system to remove air and moisture...i.e. humidity, from the lines. Ice crystals will form in the metering device and plug it up. Most likely you've got a bad actuator door motor or a rotten vacuum line...thanks for the video Derek...I love Cadillac's

    • @quevicular
      @quevicular Před 3 lety

      Exactly. I had to do this with my ford windstar. Must evacuate with vacuum pump, check for vacuum loss and then add through the gauge cluster and monitor the high and low pressure sides to do this correctly. These kits only top up however there is still a vacuum loss needed to keep moisture from building up inside the system

    • @Dark_Knight_USA
      @Dark_Knight_USA Před 3 lety

      Greetings: Define "indirect drive shaft" and describe how it applies.

    • @robertkitchell859
      @robertkitchell859 Před 2 lety

      Most likely with the 🐀🐁 being in there it's a vacuum line or the vacuum ball, he is definitely smart enough to figure it out,

    • @robertkitchell859
      @robertkitchell859 Před 2 lety

      @@Dark_Knight_USA it's a shaft inside of another shaft,

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr Před 2 lety +1

      I've done many this way and never had a problem

  • @brianproffitt7263
    @brianproffitt7263 Před 3 lety

    I don’t blame you for showing this so much love, not much better than a good ole Cadillac. But imagine this thing with a Texas speed 427

  • @LiquidSquidYT
    @LiquidSquidYT Před 3 lety +10

    I love the uploads as frequently. Enjoy you tackling side projects like this just as much as you fixing cars in fields 🤘

  • @keithdavies150
    @keithdavies150 Před 3 lety +7

    That was actually very informative AND helpful to a guy. Thanks, Der. LOVE the humour, as always.

  • @Martin.Wilson
    @Martin.Wilson Před rokem +2

    The floor vent issue is sometimes the servo-motor that controls the position of the deflector that directs air to the dash, defrost, floor, etc. Check that motor and also check to see if any debris is preventing the deflector from moving freely..

  • @kirkstruik6118
    @kirkstruik6118 Před 3 lety +11

    Please, even more content like this; I love seeing even more work done on the cars like this. Gives a feller ideas and confidence on his own cars.

  • @almostthere2024
    @almostthere2024 Před 3 lety +8

    With VGG, it's more than car culture, the stories and the entertainment factor - it's the teachin' and the learnin'. Cheers Derek, love your work.

  • @markfargnoli6347
    @markfargnoli6347 Před 3 lety

    I have a 70 Cadillac convertible for 30 years and have a bunch of parts. Glad to see you are keeping her alive

  • @eazzzye2003
    @eazzzye2003 Před 3 lety +23

    The "Three Things that Don't Lie" needs to make it onto a t-shirt. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @scottyellis3442
      @scottyellis3442 Před 3 lety +1

      I've always said the three things were children, alcohol, & Spandex.

  • @corywatkins9685
    @corywatkins9685 Před 3 lety +20

    There should be a flapper valve that make it go form floor to to the vents and I do believe that those are done by vacuum on Cadillacs of that yr and valve should be right on top of the floor vents

    • @jimsblack
      @jimsblack Před 3 lety +6

      There should be a vacuum valve bank in the dash that works the flapper valve. Betting the vacuum lines are rotted out.

    • @papabones6307
      @papabones6307 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep. He needs to pull the HVAC control set out. Check the vacuum lines there and the ones running down to the vacuum control valve at the vent door housing, basically all the vacuum hoses.

  • @robgm6926
    @robgm6926 Před 3 lety +1

    Drove my 1995 Oldsmobile for years with the vents not working properly and no cruise control. Then one day I was under the hood and found this little spongy vacuum line. Replaced it and boom! Got cruise control and working vents! Now if I can just get the blower motor the cooling fan the electric seats and the electric locks to work, it'll be perfect! And the electric trunk release! They didn't go away all at the same time. They just kind of faded away slowly one at a time.

  • @skater9653
    @skater9653 Před 3 lety +9

    I really can’t wait for the day that you get to a million subscribers man! Love the videos no matter what mood I’m in or what’s going on I can always watch one of your videos and smile the whole time and laugh at least 37 million times.

    • @MegaEaglelover
      @MegaEaglelover Před 3 lety

      Ya took the words right out my mouth… never fails to brighten a fella up

  • @brandonzilka1274
    @brandonzilka1274 Před 3 lety +10

    Loved the special guest appearance by Professor Vice Grip to help explain and diagnose the relay switch! Great job Derek! I wonder what Diamond Rio is doing today???

  • @oddfoxchassis786
    @oddfoxchassis786 Před 3 lety +2

    Just catching up, I appreciate the diagnostic tips with the volt meter, relay info. Keep it coming!

  • @TheDubster.
    @TheDubster. Před 3 lety +6

    Ya know. A guy just gets excited when he hooks his peepers on a VGG video. Love the caddy. Cant wait to see her just cruising down the blacktop!

  • @davidmeyer9204
    @davidmeyer9204 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you ! You made my night ! I loved the "Yoga Pants" comment. That is not the only reason I liked the video, It is a Classic VGG good time. Thanks again

  • @briankinnear7461
    @briankinnear7461 Před 3 lety +1

    Some great progress. Nice to have the a/c working again. Will need it this summer I bet. Been a hot and sticky one recently up here in Ontario Canada. Be safe and stay well.

  • @jurisklavins2578
    @jurisklavins2578 Před 3 lety +24

    Looking forward to a fella loading his family into the goin' to town Caddy and making a video of a short road trip 😎

  • @jrocco36
    @jrocco36 Před 3 lety +9

    Really enjoy the progression of this old Caddy. My Father had the exact same year Fleetwood in the same color.

  • @davidlove4842
    @davidlove4842 Před 3 lety +2

    Watching from Australia , I'm loving this car , it's going to be a real nice ride very soon

  • @michaelmueller7405
    @michaelmueller7405 Před 3 lety +4

    What an awesome family ..... you can feel the connection and good feelings. You are blessed ... :) Very happy for all of you

  • @stevencorcoran915
    @stevencorcoran915 Před 3 lety +25

    Absolutely best channel on CZcams. Guys has gotten a tremendous amount of confidence watching your videos on working on cars. Keep em coming and keep up the awesome content.
    My wife got me some merch on the ole' bleep bloop computer for our wedding anniversary, first comment when opening the gift was, "I'll be dipped!" LOL.

  • @julesknight9504
    @julesknight9504 Před 3 lety

    Captain's log. You are the best thing on CZcams. Australia says thanks. Jules.

  • @NotAGarage
    @NotAGarage Před 3 lety +8

    I always look forward to these videos being uploaded. I usually rewatch them to fall asleep to. Hope the extra 633,519 views and likes help out a guy 💪

  • @mjmcomputers
    @mjmcomputers Před 3 lety +12

    Nice work! The older I get the more priority AC becomes in a new project.

  • @bradmaddox8152
    @bradmaddox8152 Před 3 lety

    a guy has told literally EVERY person he's interacted with since June 30 about vgg. it got me through my recovery from rotator cuff surgery. I really hope a guy gets to have a cold snack/ hang out/meet ya one day. you and your family and videos were a God send.

  • @ReCkLeSsErr0r
    @ReCkLeSsErr0r Před 3 lety +7

    Love seeing work continued on the old land yacht there.

  • @Stonedog77
    @Stonedog77 Před 3 lety +6

    The controls for the dash vents might be vacuum accuated. Look for associated broken vacuum tubing or leaking vacuum canister. A guess based on similar issue I had with my Ford.

  • @paramounttechnicalconsulti5219

    My favorite car ever was a 78 Sdean de Ville with a 425; big parts for small hands! Did an entire exhaust, front end, brakes, cooling system, springs, rebuilt a carb. Was planing for the front end and had all of the parts in the trunk and a ball joint seperated. Had allof the parts and the tools and replaced a ball joint on the road in 20 minutes. MY proudest moment ;-p

  • @BozoBuckets96
    @BozoBuckets96 Před 3 lety +7

    I’ve been waitin for this! Thank Jesus for that bell doohickey

  • @thomaswermager1819
    @thomaswermager1819 Před 3 lety +8

    She just keeps amazing a guy on how well she’s comin back! Just like from the factree!

  • @j.ozborne5374
    @j.ozborne5374 Před 3 lety +1

    Really cool seeing them little fellers being such a big help! Thanks for the awesome videos.

  • @gerrymoeller
    @gerrymoeller Před 3 lety +5

    Most those old GM vents are vacuum operated, I'm pretty sure that one does too. Check your vacuum ball and all your vacuum hoses, especially the ones that goes under the dash. Also the ones on your control panel.

  • @charlesgall7829
    @charlesgall7829 Před 3 lety +14

    Yoga pants don"t lie ! Derek, you are brilliant! LOL

  • @barryetherington6136
    @barryetherington6136 Před 2 lety +1

    Keep workin on that sweet old Caddy...super cool ride....PS ..get those fender skirts happen'in

  • @WC0125
    @WC0125 Před 3 lety +6

    Great video VGG! Every segment brings back a lot of memories of an abandoned '69 I resurrected in the mid 1980s. Your AC mode (vents or floor or defrost selection) is controlled by the temp wheel and the "Comfortron" (or TempMatic or whater Cad called it) control programmer on the side of the HVAC unit in the cabin. It contains a vacuum mode valve, actuators, relay valves, amplifier, and other associated simple electronics to operate the modes and control the temp at or near the temp wheel setting. There are two thermistors that detect ambient and cabin temp. The transistorized differential amplifier in the programmer makes adjustments to what doors to open and set the heater core / evap blend door for the right temp. As you undoubtedly know the car has miles of vacuum hoses. There is a vaccum harness that runs from the mode control to all the vacuum motors to include a water control valve on the heater hoses. Complicated as hell but not really once you work on a few. Quite fun to mess with and work great IF all the vacuum lines are there. Good luck!!!

  • @pauldulworth2768
    @pauldulworth2768 Před 3 lety +13

    “There are three things that don’t lie: kids, country & western songs and yoga pants.”
    That, fellers, is some wisdom right there…and I ain’t kiddin’ ya neither.

    • @400brian
      @400brian Před 3 lety +2

      The yoga pants...when I was a pup those woulda been deemed obscene. Sometimes more info than a guy needs to see.

    • @jeffpribyl6488
      @jeffpribyl6488 Před 3 lety +4

      Yoga pants and Walmart NEVER a good combination

    • @whammond511
      @whammond511 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jeffpribyl6488 Walmart; never a good combination! Period!!

  • @theoldempressrv6193
    @theoldempressrv6193 Před 2 lety

    Excellent....air con is such a great invention that seems to get ignored...
    Good to see!!!!

  • @likesbikes77
    @likesbikes77 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for burning the midnight oil so we can get in a good vid before turning in for the night. I wonder if the missing wire on the relay is for the floor/vent selector. Newer systems have a separate resistor for fan speed but I'm not sure about those older systems.

  • @douglasmayherjr.5733
    @douglasmayherjr.5733 Před 3 lety +9

    Normally you would need to pull a vacuum to get the air out of the system. It will cause higher operating pressures because the air will take space in the condenser. Thanks for the videos.

    • @raynetorrin
      @raynetorrin Před 3 lety

      Also get all the moisture out of the system. He is going to be replacing that pump again soon.

  • @stevemurphy1051
    @stevemurphy1051 Před 3 lety

    I'm old and had Caddies in the 70"s. Greatest cars ever. And it was R12 not R112 ice cube maker. Really like your vlog...

  • @codemonkey2k5
    @codemonkey2k5 Před 3 lety +5

    Far as I know, GM uses vacuum to change which vents the air comes out of. But before you go blowing the ice cubes all around, you probably want to pull the mice nests and such out of the vent lines. ;) The lever that the vacuum moves to change the vent configuration should be visible if you look up under the dash.

    • @UToobSteak
      @UToobSteak Před 7 měsíci

      Came here to say the same. A LOT of those little vacuum lines were plastic and crumble over the years. A guy's seen it 1567 times.