Dear dr. Raj Vedam, Incase you are not aware. You are what we over here in America call a Patriot. A Patriot to your beliefs. Who stands rock solid for truth in all things. Those things that in everyone's center of being must be said. And those with ears to hear can join with. Please don't expend your valuable time yelling at the mountains when the rocks at your feet are looking up at you. Bedrock is before you and mountains are there to crumble in their time. I also am a fan of Sadhguru and in your way I say. BLESSINGS BE UPON YOU 🙏 From a simple Christian soul
I am a 66 year old resident of midwest USA. I find all that was said compelling in the extreme. I did not learn this in school unfortunately, but by self study came to believe this thesis long ago. I was surprised and saddened to learn that in India itself these ideas must struggle to be heard. Thank you for taking your free time to do this work. While it is probably more worthwhile to inform a young mind, I remain grateful, as an old man, who as a young reader, tried to imagine that of which you speak. Thanks again.
Sanjay Sanyal, Raj Vedam, ++++.. a blinding array of intellectual brilliance. All the best in building the alternative narrative. - a comment from Sri Lanka.
Your talk brought me to tears. Modi should take note and heavily fund this research, if not in honor to his own, recently deceased spiritual teacher, then in honor of Truth and respect for the people of India.
Why govt should finance on cultural heritage of India? Today we can give daan of small amounts for crowdfunding via Paytm/UPI. Lakhs of Indians can finance few key scholars to be assisted by helpers to start the new Indo-Centric narrative.
We should start a 'SCHOOL OF INDIAN THOUGHT' with a industry woven around it. If market and education combined as independent organization nobody can oppose it.
The Aryan invasion theory according to the British was that ancient Aryans invaded India at about 1500BC, driven out the Dravidians from their land, have imported the Hindu civilization along with the Sanskrit language from the steppes of central Asia (Kuhn, 1845, Max Muller, 1878, Childe, 1926, Elst, 1999; Trautmann, 2005). The theory was the justification for the British occupation of India. Although there was no archeological evidence to support this theory, it has become the most important doctrine on ancient Indian history. However, some recent archeological discoveries in India, Russia, and Japan have pushed back the antiquity of the Aryans to at least 9000 BC and proved beyond doubt that the ancient Aryans were not nomadic tribes from central Asia but had very advanced urban civilizations. India was possibly the original home of the Aryans. From India, the Aryan language and other languages of Aryan affinity came into existence due to the contact between the migrating Aryans and non-Aryans out of India (Mazumdar, 1917). The Vedic literature was the expression of the highly developed thoughts of the Aryans. If the Aryans had come to India from outside it would be natural to find some traces of their thoughts and literary activities in some of the places through which they had traveled. However, no such record has been discovered at any place. To suggest that the Aryans had attained the highly developed literary and intellectual acumen after coming into India does not justify the absence of any record whatsoever in any of the places through which they had traveled into India. Genetic Evidence for Westward Indo-Aryan expansion Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplogroups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent, replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009) This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous. 1. The R1a haplogroup originated in India. 2. The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago. 3. The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago. This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others (Sharma et al, 2009). This is irrefutable scientific proof that not only did the Indo-Aryan people originate in India over 15,450 years ago, but also that they expanded out of India and settled in lands far to the west in Europe. It thoroughly invalidates the AIT (Aryan Invasion Theory) and AMT (Aryan Migration Theory). Literary Evidence for Westward Indo-Aryan expansion Consider the Baudhayana Shrauta Sutra, a Vedic text. Baudhayana Shrauta Sutra @ records: “Amavasu migrated westward. His people are Gandhari, Parsu and Aratta.” This refers to a Vedic king called Amavasu, whose people are the Gandhari (Gandhara - Afghanistan), the Parsu (Persians) and the Aratta, who are tentatively identified as living in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat, which is located in Turkey (eastern Anatolia) and Armenia. Afghanistan (Gandhara) was historically part of the Indian civilization until the Islamic invasions. The name “Persia” comes from the ancient Parshva people (an Aryan clan). The word “Parshva” is derived from the Sanskrit/Avestan (Old Persian) word “Parshu”, which means “battle-ax”. There are clear linguistic and cultural similarities between India and Persia. The traditional Armenian name for Mt. Ararat is Masis. It is named after the legendary Armenian king Amasya. The name “Amasya” is linguistically related to the name “Amavasu” of the Indian king recorded in the Baudhayana’s Shrauta-Sutra. This establishes literary evidence for the westward expansion of Indo-Aryans, via Afghanistan, to Persia, Armenia and Anatolia. The ancient kingdom of Mitranni, of the people who used to worship Mitra, the Vedic God, located in present-day Syria and Anatolia, had an Indo-Aryan, Sanskrit-speaking ruling class. Mitranni kings had Indo-Aryan names. The oldest recorded (Vedic) Sanskrit words are found in a horse training manual by a Mitranni horse master named Kikkuli. Although the text is written in the Hittite language, it appears that Kikkuli was not familiar enough with that language to use technical terms, which made it necessary for him to use the terminology of his own language (Vedic Sanskrit) instead. Inscribed clay tablets discovered in Boğazkale, Anatolia (Turkey), record a royal treaty and invoke the Vedic gods Indra, Mitra, Nasatya & Varuna by the Hittites, another Indo-European tribe, as witnesses. The Boğazkale clay tablets are dated to about 1380 BC. This is around the same time as Kikkuli’s horse training manual. The Mitranni and Hittites belonged to the Indian-origin haplogroup R1a1a. This is clear evidence of a large-scale westward expansion of Sanskrit-speaking Indo-Aryans, and their presence as the ruling aristocracy in lands thousands of kilometers west of India. The children of Goddess Danu. The primordial Rig Vedic river goddess Danu is the mother/progenitor of the Danava clan of Indo-Aryans. The Danavas revolted against the Devas and were eventually defeated and got banished. As it turns out, that was far from the end of their story. The word dānu means “fluid, drop” in Rig Vedic Sanskrit. The Avestan (old Iranian) word for “river” is “dānu”. The Scythian (Saka/Shaka) & Sarmatian words for “river” are also “dānu”. Now consider this: linguistically, the names of the European rivers Danube, Dnieper, Dniestr, Don, Donets, Dunajec, Dvina or Daugava, and Dysna are all derived from the Rig Vedic Sanskrit root word “dānu”. These rivers flow across eastern & central Europe. These rivers, all named after the Rig Vedic goddess Danu, seem to trace the gradual westward migration through Europe of the Danava clan of Rig Vedic Indo-Aryans. According to Irish & Celtic mythology, the Irish & Celtic people are descended from a mother goddess - a river goddess - called Danu. The ancient (mythological) people of Ireland are called the Tuatha Dé Danann (Old Irish: “The peoples of the goddess Danu”). Is there genetic evidence to support this story? As it turns out, there is. The R1a1a haplogroup is rare in Ireland, at 2.5% of the population. This can be explained by the fact that Ireland has suffered many invasions since the Bronze Age, which would have led to the gradual replacement of the R1a1a haplogroup with those of the various invaders. The fact that R1a1a is still present in Ireland proves that people of Indo-Aryan origin settled there in the past (Sharma et al, 2009). Elsdon Best (1972) in his book wrote that the ancestors of a tribe Tuhoe in New Zealand came from India via Peru. DNA tests on some of them proved the origin of their ancestors. They said that they traveled from India after the Mahabharata war to New Zealand. Thus, the story of Manu dividing up the world among his sons maybe not a myth. (@ In a report published in Nature, a group of scientists and archeologists of the ASI (Archeological Survey of India) and IIT (Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur) proved that the cities of Indus valley were at least 9000 years old, not just 3500 years. The cause of the decline was not any Aryan invasion, but a continuous lack of rainfall since that 9000 years when most rivers dried up. That might have caused the outward migration of the Aryans from India (Sarkar, 2016). (This is quoted from our (Victoria Miroshnik and Dipak Basu), forthcoming book, Ethics, Morality and Business, to be published by Palgrave-Macmillan. )
As Sanjeev Sanyal said we need to create our own narrative, our own Indo-Centric system. This is better use of energy than trying to bring down someone else's system. Just like China doesn't accept Western narratives but goes ahead with its own idea of itself and the world. India too is getting economically developed and we can soon finance our own narrative with scholars working on it. One other good way to do this is to have more archeological excavations that can be used to take the ancient history of India further back. This will also have the side effect of shaking up the current Western narrative.
Many westerners like myself have been waking up to the way the ancients have taught.....we need to spread this world wide, but I believe that the new age is among us and it slowly spreading to all of the planet! We must be patient 🙏❤️
I agree when a certain scholar from Harvard or Cambridge say anything without evidence then also take it as God's words and when an Indian scholar try to refute them he should have lot amount of evidence even convince people to listen to him.
I think we are all trying to under stand our past. From what I am understanding there is a wealth of information starting to come out of India and around the world at 78 years Old I feel privileged to be living in this era so I will be following and spreading what I learn
Your attempt to reeducate us and show what the truth is very optimistic. Hope the teachers are open minded to give the knowledge to the young students in india.
Take a bow: Heartfelt pranams!! A great, valuable, science-based talk on Indian civilisation! Thank you Sir! Wish your passionate work becomes infectious!!
Good points raised on the floor. Sanjeev Sanyal's observation about the need for a systematic writing of a new narrative is being addressed by the research-based publications of Rajiv Malhotra's Infinity Foundation. Rather than re-invent any wheel, I am of the opinion that enhancing the momentum built by Rajiv has a large audience within India as well as internationally. Political hijackings are common in India and I am positive that self-publishing in this e-reading age is should provide a very strong counter-measure.
Shri Vedam, Rajiv Malhotra is a pioneer and has started swade indology conferences on various indicthemes. You should partner with him and write books and propagate your findings. Awesome work with scholarly research. May your tribe increase.
We need a new University for this kind of study promoting indian narrative! Which will have Books of scholar's like Rajiv Malhotra, Raj Vedam, Sanjiv Sanyal, many others who are putting India at the forefront. And not just history books but of science of every kind from an Indian perspective!
Beautiful!! I love what Raj Vedam says about influencing credibility for Indic views. Busting the western myth, by presenting data, methodology and conclusions using their own published works. 🙏
A Quaternary Geologist by profession I superannuated from GSI in 2014. Over the years I have come across bits and pieces of all that you have spoken off in such a comprehensive manner and have all along suspected that there was much that was wrong in what we had been given to understand. I also feel that there is still a formidable opposition that needs to be overcome before the truth is allowed to be accepted. I say this from personal experience as I find that the Quaternary Geological Mapping carried out by GSI over a period of 25 years (1970 to 1995) and the first proper compilation of which in the form of a Quaternary Geological Atlas with a uniform stratigraphic code, has been kept hidden from public view even though it was cleared for publication by the Director General of GSI in 2014.
That is the true percentage of knowledge seekers in any given society. Most people have more important agendas than knowing where do we come from . But don't feel exasperated. Only trickles make huge flood and it will happen in Indian society also.
That is what my goal in life. After retirement, I will go after to teach children below 9 yrs. above 10 and older , already conditioned. Need to go to schools .. educate via small correct stories , videos to bring an Indian identity. This is identity crisis as we have good food in belly , India now got newly found freedom. Let them not make this an hobby for certain intellectuals. There is no way you can change the flavor of already cooked food.. already made up minds , old minds. Kids children bachhe , future. Teach Sanskrit, give huge money incentives. Teach all tribals Sanskrit.. something thinkable has to be done without destruction
Amazing! Please make a patreon account and I'm sure everyone who's genuinely interested in this work will fund you to write your book. ty for all the amazing work you do.
@@jayantakarmakar6850 Very interesting rabbit hole this led me down. Apparently Patreon is shutting down people it deems too inappropriate to be on its platform. Thus it is now facing flak from the likes of Jordan Peterson, and as of 16th dec he's decided to build an alternative. That discussion had people not contributing to whatever cause because they no longer wanted patreon to get that cut. Very strange, and awesome. Crypto smart contract are apparently an alternative. But anyway, India seems to be far ahead of the US in this aspect, payment system isn't monopolized by companies.
I doubt it's money that's the lacking resource for people like this, for work like this. When we're young, we tend to think money as the limiting factor for getting things done because we're poor, but for them it's time and other responsibilities. So I think best would be to talk to them, get some leads from them, stuff that you can then research, publish, present on, and perhaps hire more people for adding to the discussion.
Brilliant stuff, all through this insightful video there is a major responsibility for all Dharmik people [Hindus+Jains+Sikhs+Buddhists] to to pick-up, volunteer and help add momentum to these brilliant mind-sciences project. I particularly identified with the 'vedic-flying-horse' comment by Sanjeev. Brilliant work. Hindus need to question synthetic and manufactured Dravidian theories, study indic sciences, help build pride
Raj Vedam ji is coughing too much. He must be quarantined.😄😄😄. Jokes apart. Thank u sir for giving us alternative narrative of our rich and unparalleled history . Love ur passion . By ur evidences , I am sure ur narrative is true compared to the conventional knowledge taught in our society. Hope so many many young and middle age guys takes forward ur work in order to discover and unravel our real history. May u live long and healthy life.🙏. Om namah shivaya.
sir i m viewers of ur videos and wanted to work with ur foundation to make the change. i hate reading history in school time because it made me feel inferior but after listening ur videos wanted to learn more and more about our civilization our culture and promote to next generation
Excellent work by Mr Vedam!! May the Lord guide you and lead you to do greater projects. Is there a official body of people joined together and working together on this works or are people working individually?
A wonderful person with a humble but explosive ideas about India. Someone told me if we can fathom the Vedic scripts of India we've arrived at the gate of heaven. But unfortunately the Vedic scripts of India has been corrupted by the nomadic invasion. The people from Khazaria were the culprits.
Awe inspiring scholarship!! It's unbearable how westerners have stolen our knowledge!! The BJP has a responsibility to rectify the situation- Indians expect at least this much from them!!! the hard work of such scholars must NOT be allowed to go waste!!
But the biggest resistance to the BJP Govt are the so-called liberals who just don't know about any of this information and don't want to bother learning beyond what they've learned in school. There needs to be serious intellectual faces that spread this message the way Raj Vedam is doing here. It cannot simply come from "relgious" branded people like say Sadhguru, who they will not take seriously...
@@hereiam3956 may be you disagree with me but let us show that we support every hindu who stands for it. if sadhguru stands for it then also we can show our full support kuch nahi karne se achha toh support karna hi hai
I can relate to that... just 2days ago, my children have tried to tras me when I told them the falsehood in the narrative by Devdutta pattnaik. They REFUSE to accept that HE is WRONG & insist that he is the one who is right.
Thank you so much for uploading this and your talks on youtube. All the way in The Netherlands I have enjoyed your way of thinking and your knowledge. Bedankt
Why Do I care about my Ancient past, I care for today?\ I care about My past , because I want to know where i come from, what is my true identity, what is my history. If I don't respect and value my past and History how would I respect my present . 2nd If I don't care about past then throw out all historical books, let there be no History .
Arzoo Singh what is your identity with your history where you born ? are you just an idiot ? what makes you ... you want want others to fill in the glass what fucking idiot would allow for such
The two biggest I would suggest for why we need to know our past is: 1. We colonized under Islamic and Christian rule for 1000 years. 2. We are just only living and continuously evolving civilization in the whole world.
When corrupt Nehru dynasty & cunning left liberals imposed in our text books about tribal invaders & colonial ancient bluff, why not we proud of our ancient to be inspired to create a strong & prosperous nation. Many of our ancestors can be our role model like Aryabhatta, Sankara, Chanakya, Vivekanandha, Ramanujam, Bose, etc.
Sanskrit never originated in India. It belongs to Indo European Language. It was brought from outside invaders, that is the reason why Indus Valley Civilization scripts are still not deciphered. DNA analysis clearly indicate that most of the North Indians & Brahmins in entire india are genetically more closely related to middle east people.Rig Veda provide evidence of Aryan invasion " Oh Indra you killed and chased out the black skinned short people ( Dravidian?) from Indus" ..Rig veda is a version of Iranian or Aryan "Vendida " a text of Zoroastrian.Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) must be evidence based not emotion or Hindutuva mission based. Irrespective of AIT is true or false, we Indians love each other live peacefully with diversity of religions and races. Thats the greatness of India the world must learn from India.
Krish Santhanam all the reversed people you have mentioned are rubbished by the liberalism and they are called filthy names...and they are supposed to be people who hated most people and so on ...
The evidence in favour of AIT that you provide is called left liberal propaganda. Which has been time and gain proved to be worthless for any kind of intellectual debate.
Following are the reasons why Aryan Invasion/Migration Theory is True. DNA analysis clearly indicate that most of the North Indians & Brahmins in entire India are genetically more closely related to middle east people. The oldest haplogroup in India were O2a, found among the Austroasiatic peoples. Haplogroup H with Dravidians invaded O2a. And finally the Indo-Europeans haplogroup R invaded Dravidians. The north Indians has more Caucasoid and the south Indians more australoid in their genetics. Most of the North Indians burn the dead bodies traditionally whereas Indus Valley people clearly followed burial systems. This indicates that they are different from present people of North India. Indus Valley people had constructed their drainage system on very scientific lines. Whereas so called Aryans have followed “Defecating in open system”. That is the reason even today nearly 50% Indians don’t have toilets.Sanskrit never originated in India. It belongs to Indo European Language. It was brought from outside invaders, that is the reason why Indus Valley Civilization scripts are still not deciphered. Sanskrit was first recorded in inscriptions found not on the plains of India but in in what is now northern Syria.And I find nothing wrong in it. Entire Human History has always been like that.
Vedas most likely originated somewhere in Modern Day Iran or Afghanistan. Rig veda is a version of Iranian or Aryan "Vendida " a text of Zoroastrian.The oldest name mentioned of this river in Avesta is Haraxvaiti, a cognate to Sanskrit Saraswati River. Hence it is Helmand River which is mentioned in Rig Vedas Saraswati River. A study published in Science magazine puts forward evidence that most Indo-european / Indo-Aryan languages including Sanskrit originated from a language spoken in Anatolia, part of modern Turkey, 8000 to 9500 years ago. Indians in general are people with mixed race. Even though The north Indians has more Caucasoid and the south Indians more australoid in their genetics. So all these mixing must have happened at some point of history.History should be written based on evidences and only on evidences. Until 1800's, No one know the existence of Dinosaurs. Now Everyone know that they existed because of the fossil evidence. Do you have any concrete evidence to prove?? Well, Argument may never end...... Whatever the truth may be, World History books agrees & teaches in schools & Colleges that Aryan Invasion Theory is correct and says that Sanskrit belongs to one of the Indo European Language Group which originated in somewhere in Anatolia (Modern Day Turkey). Whereas in India, It says that AIT is incorrect and Sanskrit is the mother of all languages.
Why do some people asked idiotic questions like "why should I care about the past, I only care about now and the future ?" These people are of the Judeo-Christian mind-set, linear in thinking. If they accept the Hindu concept of cyclical nature of things, them they would understand the value of the past. In other, if you want to know where you are going, then you must know where you came from. "That which was, is ; that which is, will be; that which will be, was, but will be again."
"The Holy Science" book mentions that our Sun with its planest revolves around its twin Star Alcyone and both Sun and Alcyone orbits around the centre of Galaxy which in Vedic term is called Vishnunabhi. Sun and Alcyone when closer to the center of Galaxy the radiation energy is higher (Satyuga) and when they are at the farthest the radiation energy is at the lowest (Kalyuga) in between you get the other yuga cycles. Also, there is a direct correlation to the human DNA mutation due to light (energy, radiation, photon) whatever you want to call it which means that when we are closer to Vishnunabhi and exposed to a lot of radiation out DNA mutates and humans evolves into more than what we are today and vice versa.
Thank you sir.. For such massive work thank you for trying to find out our own identity.. Western treated as slave but now atleast know that my ancestors having superior knowledge than any other on this planet 🌏.
A video talk presenting your views could be sent to NCERT without the need to travel and block unproductive time. The e-enabled world of collaborative discussions would surely open more avenues.
Just persevere...much more than that!!! Unimaginable effort might have gone in doing this- such a vast area covered so meticulously. I wish I could be of help.
For those who claim to be a "liberal" and roaming around asking stupid questions like "Why do I care about the ancient and their achievements?" For them:- "If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree." ~ Michael Crichton
What is important is sending the message to the masses, International exposure.... no one can undo that once it register in their mind, play the same game what Brits played 200 years ago. You don't need anybody's approval, you just tell the world, if anyone wants to challenge let them, and that's good publicity for you. If you want any help from Sri Lanka , I can organise and help you to give talks at different universities
Many will not believe but Keralian and Punjabis have same genome. Thus we Indians are related and our fore fathers were whether in north or south are the same people. Arunkumar Sidhpura
One suggestion. China is also an ancient civilization and may support India in re-examining our history even if it goes against western ideas. They have a huge economic clout in the world. Have a joint seminar with Chinese scholars.
Respected Sir, its really a great work on our civilization . Please make sure that this is been reordered with all the proofs& come out as a book. Even though you try to break the basis of flow of true knowledge & the origin of the knowledge from this land , there are still issues of local language & caste/ creed which remains unsolved & so problematic to the peace of this nation.This needed to be addressed the same you are trying to present the differences between world's other civilization knowledge bank and ours. I think breaking the local inner barriers with in our country about the differences, that all the present politicians practicing is very important and making our biased scholars to understand our oneness is the most important necessary task now. Hope it will be also done in near future.. Thanks & Regards,
I'm very strongly filling the need of one or more than one group of scientific TV channels which will be equivalent to Discovery group of TV channel, History TV channel, BBC documentary and etc. channels which will loud enough, scientific enough and logical enough to counter the whole western idea of warld history, which tv channels will have the potential to penetrate into the western occupied electronic media based in international space.
The British policy of Divide and Rule has done so much harm and damage and it is still '(working') ongoing in India. The British devised the Aryan invasion theory to do exactly this and the Southern Indians are still 'dancing' to this british tune. Scientifically there is no difference in our DNA and we should remove this idea that we are different from each other. The difference in looks is on the surface and due to some mutation. The Northern Indians have a similar problem with the cast system. The Hindu scriptures are clear in stating that the class system relates to the personality and behaviour of a person and not where they are born or the type of work one does. it is time people change their mindset and move on.
A good number of Rigvedic suktaas describe Cosmic phenomenon with highest accuracy, simultaneously, other suktaas describe pure Human physiology and psychology. The keys have been lost during catastrophes ( younger Dryayas asteroid collision etc and other global phenomenon ). Ramaayana ,MahaBharata and other Puraanaas are mythological versions of vedic suktaas. Most unfortunate accident of History that has almost destroyed , a good part of the ancient iNDIAN literature, which has been filled up with ritualistic stories, which are ,now, thrust on us as History by vested interests. Sagara, Raama, and Krishna flood stories specify the great destructive calamities, closed those periods.
We have to revamp ICHR, ASI, NCERT, UGC, leading national universities and research institutions totally, in order to rewrite Indian History that is currently full of omissions, distortions, misinterpretations and illegitimate insertions.
A very informative and interesting talk, and so well prepared and delivered. thank you. Some thoughts in disagreement with interpretation or viewpoint may be permitted. I caution against the revolt against having been overrun by the West by going overboard and making India the source of everything. Certainly a lot needs to be clarified and acknowledged. But keep in mind, that we move in successive approximation to recover the past and I do believe it will be wise to state India is ancient indeed and much knowledge came from there. You can do this without turning around and denying other populations their own antiquity and perhaps star guidedness. there seems to be a spirit in much of the world today for peoples to claim ancient or old knowledge in the process of throwing off the yoke of Europe. You also observed that even Europe is throwing off its own misperceptions of its own past. How much European history and wisdom was destroyed by the church, by the burning of the wise women, the harsh punishment for remembrance of the old ways. This goes for the native peoples of the Americas, where there existed great cities, even along the Amazonas River, and also for Australians, who have just recently been proven to have practiced highly specialized agriculture, far from being simple hunter gatherers - and who knows what else they knew or know! Let us work to discover truth, but without intent to prove ourselves, whether Indian, American, African etc to be the best and most ancient of all. such thoughts seem to me to be not truth centered but an extreme reaction to suppression and they will lead to yet further errors, I fear. As a lay person, European, with great interest in history and a love for India as well as other wise folk around the globe, I never even as a child thought of India as anything other than very very old, and as time went on and various sites were discovered, I understood that my sense of antiquity was being proven though my own sense of it was always still that it was older yet. (Something that I also sensed about Egypt long before it was discovered the sphinx has to be at least 10 000 years old, and even about Europe which could not have arisen out of complete ignorance to building cathedrals over night, not even with stolen wisdom) Reading Mahabharata I don't care when they were written down, it clearly goes back to a time when people were of a totally different caliber and thus I believe more than 12ooo years ago, the time when mysterious great structures were made that withstood the flood of that time. You do not mention that date. I am noticing that Graham Hancock's work is being struck from CZcams like many other things regarding ancient history. He also has searched for proof of very ancient India. Not all europeans are eager to discount indias contributions. Please do not return blow for blow and generalize upon us today what was done in the past and what some people worried about the status quo for their careers may still be doing. However, I do not think that you effectively disprove an Aryan invasion, if you have to call it that. I was never ever taught that it was an invasion in any case, rather a migration, and not from the west in general, but rather from a point north of Iran, through Iran and from there spreading both East and West, forming such tribes as Celts and Germanics and Slavs to the East and India´s peoples to the East. On both ends there were others already present, and never was I taught (I am now 70) that the people already there were conquered or destroyed or that they contributed nothing to the civilization that blossomed, although it does appear after all, that the ruling class tended to be light skinned long before the British came to India, so you can't rightfully lay that at their admittedly dirty doorstep.. In Europe we now are finding that here also there was a mixing more than a conquering, alsthough one group did become dominant - how exactly we do not know. I do have Neanderthal blood in me, which seems to turn out be far from primitive, but rather artistic and peace oriented. What a surprise. And ancient. Not comparing with India, just saying there is more to it all perhaps. In any case, you yourself do not deny the similarities in languages, though you somehow want to distinguish between language groups and tribes, and that section of your talk i do find unconvincing. Tribes and language have hung together for a long time! I do not think this can be dinied. After all people did organize in tribal groups and shared language within those groups. langages changed and evolved along with migrations. Scholars of Proto-Indoeuropean do find Sanskrit to be the closest to this constructed, imagined source language. On a very personal note - I have chilled whenever I hear Sanskrit since the first time I heard it and always feel that I sense its meanings and understand the rhythms and can speak the sounds with ease. To place that origin of so many languages and migrations only a few centuries CE seems ridiculous to me. Perhaps the entire history of intelligent life on this planet has of yet only been vaguely understood and much of it is clothes in language of legend and folk tales and religions. Just as Mahabharat has been thought of a long time til recently. I think we will find a very ancient history of invasions or migrations or arrivals from other heavenly bodies, which will begin to explain more. Shiva being one example thereof. But the ancient peoples of Europe and Eurasia (as well as America) also tell this tale of aliens. You may argue they got it all from India. But although you do prove that a great deal came out of India and was falsely or out of necessity claimed otherwise, the final word on it all is far from spoken, so stay safe!
@@PS-gw8sm a bit judgmental and predjudiced? find that a sign of intelligence and wisdom? there are a lot of military pilots who have seen things to make them believers....
Yes. This is a major lacunae in Indic thought. Small clusters of players in little oasis. We have to form an ocean of all these oasis and drown the other side.
IMO having separate independent oasis working in collaboration is better than becoming one big institute. But they should share research and I think they do.
Some criticisms: 1- If you put on a chart de % of the world's GDP and its evolution throughout time, the fact that one region rises and the other falls does not imply a transfer of wealth. Normally it signals that one region expereiences high economic growth and the other is stagnating during some period. 2- The whole of Eurasia and America are full of archeological "anomalies" ( artifacts and building parts ) that cannot be explained by the current paradigm ( many are much older than 7000 years old reaching in some cases hundreds of thousands years before ). The big difference is that in the West the clergy of the Abrahamic religions has practiced a continuous persecution of the logical implications of these findings. We have been absolutely brainwashed. In India you have been opressed during periods by islamics but most of you saw them as foreigners so you have had a real continuity in your culture. In Europe all began to crumble in 325 AC until the Renaissance when it looked to progressively renew the path of progress. What it seems to emerge is the existence of previous civilizations before the last Ice Age ( that means to consider the posiibility that the legends of Atlántida, Hiperborea, Lemuria....etc. were real ). India seems the be the place where a craddle happens where a culture coming from the North ( Hiperborea ? ) merges with another coming from the South ( Lemuria ? ) during a long period of many thousands of years without the "burn earth" tactics of the Abrahamic religions clergy completely brainwashing the people.
All literatures of this world shows development phases but the ancient Kemetic hieroglyphics (Egypt) does not show any development phases dating back as far as 4000BCE. Ancient Egyptian literature is a very large body of work and is older than anything found as of yet. Earliest european literature is only 900BCE.
Go Fund Me, I want to hear this story. Post Tuba world and the Indian diaspora 30k BCE to present. And who were the builder/astronomers that are recorded on a possible western journey; Dwarka, Sumner, Libya/Giza, Olmec, Peru, Easter Island, New Zeland. The Plumed Serpent Ra, and Red Heads with top knots. And the similarity between Mohenjo Daro script and the Easter Island script. good luck, thanks
I have an idea…. I feel that you and your team needs to do presentations to selected universities outside India, say Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China, Russia, Australia. You need to have a media coverage at the same time. This will give you some International exposure. In the UK there is a large number of Indians living, so you can get few contacts and ask them to organise to do public presentations and at the same time try few Universities as well. The TV and social media coverage must be used. You will need funds and a support group, may be Indian businessmen. I remember watching Sashi Taroo’s debate at Oxford, it went viral, that is exactly what you need to do and you need to get the Indians living in other countries to get involved in this. Time is right I feel to stir this world societies a bit, Indian Government will change its attitude to rebuild the image. When the news hit the masses it will not be easy for those who try to discredit you to prove you wrong. 1. Ancient Indians were developing their minds spiritually to seek salvation when the other nations were invading countries for greed. This is where I see the vast difference in the Ancient Indian civilisation and the other.
Sir I would like to suggest for the last question asked by this gentleman who was asking regarding absurdity of the years of Yuga model .Even Sumerians talked about thousands of years of life span of their kings ,which baffles the modern historians .But they are now so much obsessed with Gilgamesh and Sumerians that they instead of rejecting it's an absurd going in to deep to prove it's truthfull ness.Simikarly as that of with Egyptian civilisation ,Pharos and pyramids .West once obcessed with something they just prove it .And now the alien or extraterrestrial theory is popped up to help them to understand thousands of years of lifespans .With the alien theory ,and theory of relativity of modern science ,they suggested that these kings ,the demigods were in real sense were hybrid offsprings of the extraterrestrials and used to visit the planets or lokas ( In indian context ) there ,that made there life span increased tremendously multifold .So the actual time span calculated by the human from earth and the space traveller will not same .One year life span of space traveller can be reflected in thound of years of life span on earth .Time being always a relative ,one need to use this aspect also .I think
Write about a chapter on Charvaka and Shambukha. What else iISW reality. It is ancient or Moist it should address common man’ s life and problems I our great civilisations.
Is there a place we can review the sited information and works? If so, please provide that information. I am not from India and am not familiar with a great deal of the works and concepts used from the lecture. Even some of the questions here are very much beyond my understanding due to my disconnect on a cultural level. Thank you.
I read somewhere there is a library in south India ( maybe Hydrabad ) or Mumbai where the manuscripts are kept. You can care to study them if you know sanskrit.
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Dear dr. Raj Vedam,
Incase you are not aware. You are what we over here in America call a Patriot. A Patriot to your beliefs. Who stands rock solid for truth in all things. Those things that in everyone's center of being must be said. And those with ears to hear can join with. Please don't expend your valuable time yelling at the mountains when the rocks at your feet are looking up at you. Bedrock is before you and mountains are there to crumble in their time.
I also am a fan of Sadhguru and in your way I say. BLESSINGS BE UPON YOU 🙏 From a simple Christian soul
You sir are a true child of God in my eyes. Thank you for your kind words. Heres hoping to a friendlier future. Namaste 🙏🏽
I am a 66 year old resident of midwest USA. I find all that was said compelling in the extreme. I did not learn this in school unfortunately, but by self study came to believe this thesis long ago. I was surprised and saddened to learn that in India itself these ideas must struggle to be heard. Thank you for taking your free time to do this work. While it is probably more worthwhile to inform a young mind, I remain grateful, as an old man, who as a young reader, tried to imagine that of which you speak. Thanks again.
Unfortunately even us in India are not taught all of this
Sanjay Sanyal, Raj Vedam, ++++.. a blinding array of intellectual brilliance. All the best in building the alternative narrative. - a comment from Sri Lanka.
Your talk brought me to tears. Modi should take note and heavily fund this research, if not in honor to his own, recently deceased spiritual teacher, then in honor of Truth and respect for the people of India.
Why govt should finance on cultural heritage of India? Today we can give daan of small amounts for crowdfunding via Paytm/UPI. Lakhs of Indians can finance few key scholars to be assisted by helpers to start the new Indo-Centric narrative.
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Y does it have to b exclusionary?? Govt and people should all participate as much as possible.
you know its a good talk when sanjeev sanyal is in the audience!
We should start a 'SCHOOL OF INDIAN THOUGHT' with a industry woven around it. If market and education combined as independent organization nobody can oppose it.
The Aryan invasion theory according to the British was that ancient Aryans invaded India at about 1500BC, driven out the Dravidians from their land, have imported the Hindu civilization along with the Sanskrit language from the steppes of central Asia (Kuhn, 1845, Max Muller, 1878, Childe, 1926, Elst, 1999; Trautmann, 2005). The theory was the justification for the British occupation of India. Although there was no archeological evidence to support this theory, it has become the most important doctrine on ancient Indian history. However, some recent archeological discoveries in India, Russia, and Japan have pushed back the antiquity of the Aryans to at least 9000 BC and proved beyond doubt that the ancient Aryans were not nomadic tribes from central Asia but had very advanced urban civilizations.
India was possibly the original home of the Aryans. From India, the Aryan language and other languages of Aryan affinity came into existence due to the contact between the migrating Aryans and non-Aryans out of India (Mazumdar, 1917). The Vedic literature was the expression of the highly developed thoughts of the Aryans. If the Aryans had come to India from outside it would be natural to find some traces of their thoughts and literary activities in some of the places through which they had traveled. However, no such record has been discovered at any place. To suggest that the Aryans had attained the highly developed literary and intellectual acumen after coming into India does not justify the absence of any record whatsoever in any of the places through which they had traveled into India.
Genetic Evidence for Westward Indo-Aryan expansion
Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplogroups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent, replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009)
This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous.
1. The R1a haplogroup originated in India.
2. The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago.
3. The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago.
This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others (Sharma et al, 2009).
This is irrefutable scientific proof that not only did the Indo-Aryan people originate in India over 15,450 years ago, but also that they expanded out of India and settled in lands far to the west in Europe. It thoroughly invalidates the AIT (Aryan Invasion Theory) and AMT (Aryan Migration Theory).
Literary Evidence for Westward Indo-Aryan expansion
Consider the Baudhayana Shrauta Sutra, a Vedic text. Baudhayana Shrauta Sutra @ records:
“Amavasu migrated westward. His people are Gandhari, Parsu and Aratta.”
This refers to a Vedic king called Amavasu, whose people are the Gandhari (Gandhara - Afghanistan), the Parsu (Persians) and the Aratta, who are tentatively identified as living in the vicinity of Mt. Ararat, which is located in Turkey (eastern Anatolia) and Armenia.
Afghanistan (Gandhara) was historically part of the Indian civilization until the Islamic invasions. The name “Persia” comes from the ancient Parshva people (an Aryan clan). The word “Parshva” is derived from the Sanskrit/Avestan (Old Persian) word “Parshu”, which means “battle-ax”. There are clear linguistic and cultural similarities between India and Persia.
The traditional Armenian name for Mt. Ararat is Masis. It is named after the legendary Armenian king Amasya. The name “Amasya” is linguistically related to the name “Amavasu” of the Indian king recorded in the Baudhayana’s Shrauta-Sutra. This establishes literary evidence for the westward expansion of Indo-Aryans, via Afghanistan, to Persia, Armenia and Anatolia.
The ancient kingdom of Mitranni, of the people who used to worship Mitra, the Vedic God, located in present-day Syria and Anatolia, had an Indo-Aryan, Sanskrit-speaking ruling class. Mitranni kings had Indo-Aryan names. The oldest recorded (Vedic) Sanskrit words are found in a horse training manual by a Mitranni horse master named Kikkuli. Although the text is written in the Hittite language, it appears that Kikkuli was not familiar enough with that language to use technical terms, which made it necessary for him to use the terminology of his own language (Vedic Sanskrit) instead.
Inscribed clay tablets discovered in Boğazkale, Anatolia (Turkey), record a royal treaty and invoke the Vedic gods Indra, Mitra, Nasatya & Varuna by the Hittites, another Indo-European tribe, as witnesses. The Boğazkale clay tablets are dated to about 1380 BC. This is around the same time as Kikkuli’s horse training manual.
The Mitranni and Hittites belonged to the Indian-origin haplogroup R1a1a. This is clear evidence of a large-scale westward expansion of Sanskrit-speaking Indo-Aryans, and their presence as the ruling aristocracy in lands thousands of kilometers west of India.
The children of Goddess Danu.
The primordial Rig Vedic river goddess Danu is the mother/progenitor of the Danava clan of Indo-Aryans. The Danavas revolted against the Devas and were eventually defeated and got banished. As it turns out, that was far from the end of their story. The word dānu means “fluid, drop” in Rig Vedic Sanskrit. The Avestan (old Iranian) word for “river” is “dānu”. The Scythian (Saka/Shaka) & Sarmatian words for “river” are also “dānu”.
Now consider this: linguistically, the names of the European rivers Danube, Dnieper, Dniestr, Don, Donets, Dunajec, Dvina or Daugava, and Dysna are all derived from the Rig Vedic Sanskrit root word “dānu”. These rivers flow across eastern & central Europe. These rivers, all named after the Rig Vedic goddess Danu, seem to trace the gradual westward migration through Europe of the Danava clan of Rig Vedic Indo-Aryans.
According to Irish & Celtic mythology, the Irish & Celtic people are descended from a mother goddess - a river goddess - called Danu. The ancient (mythological) people of Ireland are called the Tuatha Dé Danann (Old Irish: “The peoples of the goddess Danu”).
Is there genetic evidence to support this story? As it turns out, there is. The R1a1a haplogroup is rare in Ireland, at 2.5% of the population. This can be explained by the fact that Ireland has suffered many invasions since the Bronze Age, which would have led to the gradual replacement of the R1a1a haplogroup with those of the various invaders. The fact that R1a1a is still present in Ireland proves that people of Indo-Aryan origin settled there in the past (Sharma et al, 2009).
Elsdon Best (1972) in his book wrote that the ancestors of a tribe Tuhoe in New Zealand came from India via Peru. DNA tests on some of them proved the origin of their ancestors. They said that they traveled from India after the Mahabharata war to New Zealand. Thus, the story of Manu dividing up the world among his sons maybe not a myth. (@
In a report published in Nature, a group of scientists and archeologists of the ASI (Archeological Survey of India) and IIT (Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur) proved that the cities of Indus valley were at least 9000 years old, not just 3500 years. The cause of the decline was not any Aryan invasion, but a continuous lack of rainfall since that 9000 years when most rivers dried up. That might have caused the outward migration of the Aryans from India (Sarkar, 2016).
(This is quoted from our (Victoria Miroshnik and Dipak Basu), forthcoming book, Ethics, Morality and Business, to be published by Palgrave-Macmillan. )
Too deep
As Sanjeev Sanyal said we need to create our own narrative, our own Indo-Centric system. This is better use of energy than trying to bring down someone else's system. Just like China doesn't accept Western narratives but goes ahead with its own idea of itself and the world. India too is getting economically developed and we can soon finance our own narrative with scholars working on it.
One other good way to do this is to have more archeological excavations that can be used to take the ancient history of India further back. This will also have the side effect of shaking up the current Western narrative.
A mind blowing and excellent presentation. Jai Hind
Many westerners like myself have been waking up to the way the ancients have taught.....we need to spread this world wide, but I believe that the new age is among us and it slowly spreading to all of the planet! We must be patient 🙏❤️
I agree when a certain scholar from Harvard or Cambridge say anything without evidence then also take it as God's words and when an Indian scholar try to refute them he should have lot amount of evidence even convince people to listen to him.
It must then be our mission to get like-minded Indian scholars to get published with Harvard or Cambridge etc. I aspire to be one such person
I think we are all trying to under stand our past. From what I am understanding there is a wealth of information starting to come out of India and around the world at 78 years Old I feel privileged to be living in this era so I will be following and spreading what I learn
what a great mind ...hats off for your brilliance..
we go up up up now Jai hind!!
Dhanyawaadams to Raj Vedam for such a comprehensive analysis and Srijan Foundation for the series of talks that concern Indic civilization.
Your attempt to reeducate us and show what the truth is very optimistic. Hope the teachers are open minded to give the knowledge to the young students in india.
Take a bow: Heartfelt pranams!! A great, valuable, science-based talk on Indian civilisation! Thank you Sir! Wish your passionate work becomes infectious!!
Good points raised on the floor. Sanjeev Sanyal's observation about the need for a systematic writing of a new narrative is being addressed by the research-based publications of Rajiv Malhotra's Infinity Foundation. Rather than re-invent any wheel, I am of the opinion that enhancing the momentum built by Rajiv has a large audience within India as well as internationally.
Political hijackings are common in India and I am positive that self-publishing in this e-reading age is should provide a very strong counter-measure.
Shri Vedam, Rajiv Malhotra is a pioneer and has started swade indology conferences on various indicthemes. You should partner with him and write books and propagate your findings. Awesome work with scholarly research. May your tribe increase.
We need a new University for this kind of study promoting indian narrative! Which will have Books of scholar's like Rajiv Malhotra, Raj Vedam, Sanjiv Sanyal, many others who are putting India at the forefront. And not just history books but of science of every kind from an Indian perspective!
fantastic speaker.
Beautiful!! I love what Raj Vedam says about influencing credibility for Indic views. Busting the western myth, by presenting data, methodology and conclusions using their own published works. 🙏
A Quaternary Geologist by profession I superannuated from GSI in 2014. Over the years I have come across bits and pieces of all that you have spoken off in such a comprehensive manner and have all along suspected that there was much that was wrong in what we had been given to understand. I also feel that there is still a formidable opposition that needs to be overcome before the truth is allowed to be accepted. I say this from personal experience as I find that the Quaternary Geological Mapping carried out by GSI over a period of 25 years (1970 to 1995) and the first proper compilation of which in the form of a Quaternary Geological Atlas with a uniform stratigraphic code, has been kept hidden from public view even though it was cleared for publication by the Director General of GSI in 2014.
Unfortunately, so many seats are vacant. This is the misfortune of our country
That is the true percentage of knowledge seekers in any given society. Most people have more important agendas than knowing where do we come from . But don't feel exasperated. Only trickles make huge flood and it will happen in Indian society also.
That is what my goal in life. After retirement, I will go after to teach children below 9 yrs. above 10 and older , already conditioned. Need to go to schools .. educate via small correct stories , videos to bring an Indian identity.
This is identity crisis as we have good food in belly , India now got newly found freedom. Let them not make this an hobby for certain intellectuals.
There is no way you can change the flavor of already cooked food.. already made up minds , old minds.
Kids children bachhe , future. Teach Sanskrit, give huge money incentives. Teach all tribals Sanskrit.. something thinkable has to be done without destruction
Amazing investigation! The past of India is very important!
As Sanjeev has suggested: let new narratives be written and let the West try and disprove or debunk them. This is the corollary of western thought.
Seidenberg in his paper accepted that Pytahgoaras theorem originated in India in Sutras.
All I can say is 'WOW"! Wonderful presentation
Absolutely amazing and great historical and scientific narration of our magnificent history by Dr Vedam
Amazing! Please make a patreon account and I'm sure everyone who's genuinely interested in this work will fund you to write your book. ty for all the amazing work you do.
Patreon takes commission. We can contribute directly if we get money transfer link.
@@jayantakarmakar6850 Very interesting rabbit hole this led me down. Apparently Patreon is shutting down people it deems too inappropriate to be on its platform. Thus it is now facing flak from the likes of Jordan Peterson, and as of 16th dec he's decided to build an alternative.
That discussion had people not contributing to whatever cause because they no longer wanted patreon to get that cut. Very strange, and awesome.
Crypto smart contract are apparently an alternative.
But anyway, India seems to be far ahead of the US in this aspect, payment system isn't monopolized by companies.
I doubt it's money that's the lacking resource for people like this, for work like this. When we're young, we tend to think money as the limiting factor for getting things done because we're poor, but for them it's time and other responsibilities.
So I think best would be to talk to them, get some leads from them, stuff that you can then research, publish, present on, and perhaps hire more people for adding to the discussion.
Gr8 work by Raj Vedam & Srijan Foundation as well. Hope we can attend your talks in UK
Brilliant stuff, all through this insightful video there is a major responsibility for all Dharmik people [Hindus+Jains+Sikhs+Buddhists] to to pick-up, volunteer and help add momentum to these brilliant mind-sciences project. I particularly identified with the 'vedic-flying-horse' comment by Sanjeev. Brilliant work. Hindus need to question synthetic and manufactured Dravidian theories, study indic sciences, help build pride
Thank you, Sir. I am thoroughly impressed by your knowledge. I hope to participate in your next presentation
Raj Vedam ji is coughing too much. He must be quarantined.😄😄😄.
Jokes apart.
Thank u sir for giving us alternative narrative of our rich and unparalleled history . Love ur passion . By ur evidences , I am sure ur narrative is true compared to the conventional knowledge taught in our society. Hope so many many young and middle age guys takes forward ur work in order to discover and unravel our real history.
May u live long and healthy life.🙏.
Om namah shivaya.
sir i m viewers of ur videos and wanted to work with ur foundation to make the change. i hate reading history in school time because it made me feel inferior but after listening ur videos wanted to learn more and more about our civilization our culture and promote to next generation
My pranaams to you Raj vedam sir
Excellent work by Mr Vedam!! May the Lord guide you and lead you to do greater projects. Is there a official body of people joined together and working together on this works or are people working individually?
Extraordinary talk! Hats off!
A wonderful person with a humble but explosive ideas about India.
Someone told me if we can fathom the Vedic scripts of India we've arrived at the gate of heaven. But unfortunately the Vedic scripts of India has been corrupted by the nomadic invasion. The people from Khazaria were the culprits.
Thanks Raj Vedam
Please contact Infinity Foundation of Shri Rajiv Malhotra who is doing similar work.
Murthy Krishna he most probably knows about rajeevji..... .
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@master blaster Your ass is burning.
13:39, The cameo of Sanjay Sanyal was epic.
Awe inspiring scholarship!! It's unbearable how westerners have stolen our knowledge!! The BJP has a responsibility to rectify the situation- Indians expect at least this much from them!!! the hard work of such scholars must NOT be allowed to go waste!!
But the biggest resistance to the BJP Govt are the so-called liberals who just don't know about any of this information and don't want to bother learning beyond what they've learned in school. There needs to be serious intellectual faces that spread this message the way Raj Vedam is doing here. It cannot simply come from "relgious" branded people like say Sadhguru, who they will not take seriously...
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Yes, waste if given To This Bogus Gurus. Where they do for their Own Glory and Fame only.
@@hereiam3956 may be you disagree with me but let us show that we support every hindu who stands for it. if sadhguru stands for it then also we can show our full support kuch nahi karne se achha toh support karna hi hai
@@malli234 at least they raise issues
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The unity of India is its spiritual thought not religion. India's civilization will go on!
I can relate to that... just 2days ago, my children have tried to tras me when I told them the falsehood in the narrative by Devdutta pattnaik. They REFUSE to accept that HE is WRONG & insist that he is the one who is right.
show them latest video of rajiv malhotra on devdutt pattnaik
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Poonam Abbi patnaik is wrong
@master blaster you are all closed and Conditioned mind fools, you never ever heard anything with open mind .you are all Indecent idiots.
Sir
Bottom of my heart ,I wish your presentation in front of Yogi ji and Modi ji .You are the best
Brilliant !
Better to add the technology of our ancestors on construction of temples age old in Tamilnadu.
Very informative and brilliant,
It's thanks to critical theory and intersectionality type of thinking that everything is reduced to "oppressor" and "oppressed"
profound presentation by the professor.
Thank you so much for uploading this and your talks on youtube. All the way in The Netherlands I have enjoyed your way of thinking and your knowledge.
Bedankt
I very much appreciate your work Sir, Keep up the good work, Very soon the larger movement will take place.
Brilliant just keep them coming
Why Do I care about my Ancient past, I care for today?\
I care about My past , because I want to know where i come from, what is my true identity, what is my history.
If I don't respect and value my past and History how would I respect my present .
2nd If I don't care about past then throw out all historical books, let there be no History .
Arzoo Singh
what is your identity with your history where you born ? are you just an idiot ? what makes you ... you want want others to fill in the glass what fucking idiot would allow for such
The two biggest I would suggest for why we need to know our past is:
1. We colonized under Islamic and Christian rule for 1000 years.
2. We are just only living and continuously evolving civilization in the whole world.
When corrupt Nehru dynasty & cunning left liberals imposed in our text books about tribal invaders & colonial ancient bluff, why not we proud of our ancient to be inspired to create a strong & prosperous nation. Many of our ancestors can be our role model like Aryabhatta, Sankara, Chanakya, Vivekanandha, Ramanujam, Bose, etc.
Sanskrit never originated in India. It belongs to Indo
European Language. It was brought from outside invaders, that is the reason why
Indus Valley Civilization scripts are still not deciphered.
DNA analysis clearly indicate that most of the North Indians
& Brahmins in entire india are genetically more closely related to middle
east people.Rig Veda provide evidence of Aryan invasion " Oh Indra
you killed and chased out the black skinned short people ( Dravidian?) from
Indus" ..Rig veda is a version of Iranian or Aryan "Vendida " a text of Zoroastrian.Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) must be evidence based not
emotion or Hindutuva mission based. Irrespective of AIT is
true or false, we Indians love each other live peacefully with diversity of
religions and races. Thats the greatness of India the world must learn from
India.
Krish Santhanam all the reversed people you have mentioned are rubbished by the liberalism and they are called filthy names...and they are supposed to be people who hated most people and so on ...
The evidence in favour of AIT that you provide is called left liberal propaganda. Which has been time and gain proved to be worthless for any kind of intellectual debate.
Following are the reasons why Aryan Invasion/Migration Theory
is True.
DNA analysis clearly indicate that most of the
North Indians & Brahmins in entire India are genetically more closely
related to middle east people. The oldest haplogroup in India were O2a, found among the Austroasiatic peoples. Haplogroup H with Dravidians invaded O2a. And finally the Indo-Europeans haplogroup R invaded Dravidians. The north Indians has more Caucasoid and the south Indians more australoid in their genetics.
Most of the North Indians burn the dead bodies
traditionally whereas Indus Valley people clearly followed burial systems. This indicates that they are different from present people of North India.
Indus Valley people had constructed their
drainage system on very scientific lines. Whereas so called Aryans have followed “Defecating in open system”. That is the reason even today nearly 50% Indians don’t have toilets.Sanskrit never originated in India. It belongs
to Indo European Language. It was brought from outside invaders, that is the reason why Indus Valley Civilization scripts are still not deciphered. Sanskrit was first recorded in inscriptions found not on the plains of India but in in what is now northern Syria.And I find nothing wrong in it. Entire Human History has always been
like that.
Vedas most likely originated somewhere in Modern Day Iran or Afghanistan. Rig veda is a version of Iranian or Aryan "Vendida " a text of Zoroastrian.The oldest name mentioned of this river in Avesta is Haraxvaiti, a cognate to Sanskrit Saraswati River. Hence it is Helmand River which is mentioned in Rig Vedas Saraswati River.
A study published in Science magazine puts forward evidence that most Indo-european / Indo-Aryan languages including Sanskrit originated from a language spoken in Anatolia, part of modern Turkey, 8000 to 9500 years ago. Indians in general are people with mixed race. Even though The north Indians has more Caucasoid and the south Indians more australoid in their genetics. So all these mixing must have happened at some point of history.History should be written based on evidences and only on
evidences. Until 1800's, No one know the existence of Dinosaurs. Now Everyone know that they existed because of the fossil evidence. Do you have any concrete evidence to prove??
Well, Argument may never end...... Whatever the truth may
be, World History books agrees & teaches in schools & Colleges that
Aryan Invasion Theory is correct and says that Sanskrit belongs to one of the Indo European Language Group which originated in somewhere in Anatolia (Modern Day Turkey). Whereas in India, It says that AIT is incorrect and Sanskrit is the mother of all languages.
thanks and gratitude...there must be a coordination between our scientists and religious teachers...Guru
Why do some people asked idiotic questions like "why should I care about the past, I only care about now and the future ?" These people are of the Judeo-Christian mind-set, linear in thinking. If they accept the Hindu concept of cyclical nature of things, them they would understand the value of the past. In other, if you want to know where you are going, then you must know where you came from. "That which was, is ; that which is, will be; that which will be, was, but will be again."
I am not sure what their mindset is, but they have low self esteem for sure.
he is just referring the question of ncert gentleman
What an insightful video!
"The Holy Science" book mentions that our Sun with its planest revolves around its twin Star Alcyone and both Sun and Alcyone orbits around the centre of Galaxy which in Vedic term is called Vishnunabhi. Sun and Alcyone when closer to the center of Galaxy the radiation energy is higher (Satyuga) and when they are at the farthest the radiation energy is at the lowest (Kalyuga) in between you get the other yuga cycles. Also, there is a direct correlation to the human DNA mutation due to light (energy, radiation, photon) whatever you want to call it which means that when we are closer to Vishnunabhi and exposed to a lot of radiation out DNA mutates and humans evolves into more than what we are today and vice versa.
Thanks for your Good Work, Raj Vedam.
Thank you sir.. For such massive work thank you for trying to find out our own identity.. Western treated as slave but now atleast know that my ancestors having superior knowledge than any other on this planet 🌏.
A video talk presenting your views could be sent to NCERT without the need to travel and block unproductive time. The e-enabled world of collaborative discussions would surely open more avenues.
Please sir work with Rajiv Malhotra
So that in future we can find some great work because Western thought are much power full
Today I have gained amazing Knowledge.
Just persevere...much more than that!!! Unimaginable effort might have gone in doing this- such a vast area covered so meticulously. I wish I could be of help.
For those who claim to be a "liberal" and roaming around asking stupid questions like "Why do I care about the ancient and their achievements?"
For them:-
"If you don't know history, then you don't know anything. You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree."
~ Michael Crichton
First Indians need to know the truth about Indian history.
Great job!
Thank you so much Sir 🙏
Take a bow sir. 🙏🏻👌💫💪
An eye opener. Recommend the lecture to everyone - India need to reclaim its heritage and contributions
What is important is sending the message to the masses, International exposure.... no one can undo that once it register in their mind, play the same game what Brits played 200 years ago. You don't need anybody's approval, you just tell the world, if anyone wants to challenge let them, and that's good publicity for you.
If you want any help from Sri Lanka , I can organise and help you to give talks at different universities
Many will not believe but Keralian and Punjabis have same genome. Thus we Indians are related and our fore fathers were whether in north or south are the same people.
Arunkumar Sidhpura
One suggestion. China is also an ancient civilization and may support India in re-examining our history even if it goes against western ideas. They have a huge economic clout in the world. Have a joint seminar with Chinese scholars.
Every Chinese source date influence of Buddhism to at least 1200-1100 BCE; which is not possible if Buddha was from 500BCE.
Respected Sir, its really a great work on our civilization . Please make sure that this is been reordered with all the proofs& come out as a book. Even though you try to break the basis of flow of true knowledge & the origin of the knowledge from this land , there are still issues of local language & caste/ creed which remains unsolved & so problematic to the peace of this nation.This needed to be addressed the same you are trying to present the differences between world's other civilization knowledge bank and ours. I think breaking the local inner barriers with in our country about the differences, that all the present politicians practicing is very important and making our biased scholars to understand our oneness is the most important necessary task now. Hope it will be also done in near future.. Thanks & Regards,
I'm very strongly filling the need of one or more than one group of scientific TV channels which will be equivalent to Discovery group of TV channel, History TV channel, BBC documentary and etc. channels which will loud enough, scientific enough and logical enough to counter the whole western idea of warld history, which tv channels will have the potential to penetrate into the western occupied electronic media based in international space.
The British policy of Divide and Rule has done so much harm and damage and it is still '(working') ongoing in India. The British devised the Aryan invasion theory to do exactly this and the Southern Indians are still 'dancing' to this british tune. Scientifically there is no difference in our DNA and we should remove this idea that we are different from each other. The difference in looks is on the surface and due to some mutation. The Northern Indians have a similar problem with the cast system. The Hindu scriptures are clear in stating that the class system relates to the personality and behaviour of a person and not where they are born or the type of work one does. it is time people change their mindset and move on.
Good lecture
A good number of Rigvedic suktaas describe Cosmic phenomenon with highest accuracy, simultaneously, other suktaas describe pure Human physiology and psychology. The keys have been lost during catastrophes ( younger Dryayas asteroid collision etc and other global phenomenon ). Ramaayana ,MahaBharata and other Puraanaas are mythological versions of vedic suktaas. Most unfortunate accident of History that has almost destroyed , a good part of the ancient iNDIAN literature, which has been filled up with ritualistic stories, which are ,now, thrust on us as History by vested interests. Sagara, Raama, and Krishna flood stories specify the great destructive calamities, closed those periods.
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We have to revamp ICHR, ASI, NCERT, UGC, leading national universities and research institutions totally, in order to rewrite Indian History that is currently full of omissions, distortions, misinterpretations and illegitimate insertions.
A very informative and interesting talk, and so well prepared and delivered. thank you.
Some thoughts in disagreement with interpretation or viewpoint may be permitted.
I caution against the revolt against having been overrun by the West by going overboard and making India the source of everything. Certainly a lot needs to be clarified and acknowledged. But keep in mind, that we move in successive approximation to recover the past and I do believe it will be wise to state India is ancient indeed and much knowledge came from there. You can do this without turning around and denying other populations their own antiquity and perhaps star guidedness. there seems to be a spirit in much of the world today for peoples to claim ancient or old knowledge in the process of throwing off the yoke of Europe. You also observed that even Europe is throwing off its own misperceptions of its own past. How much European history and wisdom was destroyed by the church, by the burning of the wise women, the harsh punishment for remembrance of the old ways. This goes for the native peoples of the Americas, where there existed great cities, even along the Amazonas River, and also for Australians, who have just recently been proven to have practiced highly specialized agriculture, far from being simple hunter gatherers - and who knows what else they knew or know! Let us work to discover truth, but without intent to prove ourselves, whether Indian, American, African etc to be the best and most ancient of all. such thoughts seem to me to be not truth centered but an extreme reaction to suppression and they will lead to yet further errors, I fear.
As a lay person, European, with great interest in history and a love for India as well as other wise folk around the globe, I never even as a child thought of India as anything other than very very old, and as time went on and various sites were discovered, I understood that my sense of antiquity was being proven though my own sense of it was always still that it was older yet. (Something that I also sensed about Egypt long before it was discovered the sphinx has to be at least 10 000 years old, and even about Europe which could not have arisen out of complete ignorance to building cathedrals over night, not even with stolen wisdom) Reading Mahabharata I don't care when they were written down, it clearly goes back to a time when people were of a totally different caliber and thus I believe more than 12ooo years ago, the time when mysterious great structures were made that withstood the flood of that time. You do not mention that date. I am noticing that Graham Hancock's work is being struck from CZcams like many other things regarding ancient history. He also has searched for proof of very ancient India. Not all europeans are eager to discount indias contributions. Please do not return blow for blow and generalize upon us today what was done in the past and what some people worried about the status quo for their careers may still be doing.
However, I do not think that you effectively disprove an Aryan invasion, if you have to call it that. I was never ever taught that it was an invasion in any case, rather a migration, and not from the west in general, but rather from a point north of Iran, through Iran and from there spreading both East and West, forming such tribes as Celts and Germanics and Slavs to the East and India´s peoples to the East. On both ends there were others already present, and never was I taught (I am now 70) that the people already there were conquered or destroyed or that they contributed nothing to the civilization that blossomed, although it does appear after all, that the ruling class tended to be light skinned long before the British came to India, so you can't rightfully lay that at their admittedly dirty doorstep.. In Europe we now are finding that here also there was a mixing more than a conquering, alsthough one group did become dominant - how exactly we do not know. I do have Neanderthal blood in me, which seems to turn out be far from primitive, but rather artistic and peace oriented. What a surprise. And ancient. Not comparing with India, just saying there is more to it all perhaps. In any case, you yourself do not deny the similarities in languages, though you somehow want to distinguish between language groups and tribes, and that section of your talk i do find unconvincing. Tribes and language have hung together for a long time! I do not think this can be dinied. After all people did organize in tribal groups and shared language within those groups. langages changed and evolved along with migrations. Scholars of Proto-Indoeuropean do find Sanskrit to be the closest to this constructed, imagined source language. On a very personal note - I have chilled whenever I hear Sanskrit since the first time I heard it and always feel that I sense its meanings and understand the rhythms and can speak the sounds with ease. To place that origin of so many languages and migrations only a few centuries CE seems ridiculous to me.
Perhaps the entire history of intelligent life on this planet has of yet only been vaguely understood and much of it is clothes in language of legend and folk tales and religions. Just as Mahabharat has been thought of a long time til recently. I think we will find a very ancient history of invasions or migrations or arrivals from other heavenly bodies, which will begin to explain more. Shiva being one example thereof. But the ancient peoples of Europe and Eurasia (as well as America) also tell this tale of aliens. You may argue they got it all from India. But although you do prove that a great deal came out of India and was falsely or out of necessity claimed otherwise, the final word on it all is far from spoken, so stay safe!
Aliens ha ha no psychobabble please
China holds complete control of its ancient texts and bars access if a scholar says something contrary to the Chinese narrative
@@PS-gw8sm a bit judgmental and predjudiced? find that a sign of intelligence and wisdom? there are a lot of military pilots who have seen things to make them believers....
When will you partner with Infinity foundation?
Yes. This is a major lacunae in Indic thought. Small clusters of players in little oasis. We have to form an ocean of all these oasis and drown the other side.
IMO having separate independent oasis working in collaboration is better than becoming one big institute. But they should share research and I think they do.
We have forgotten the genocide of our people - if we remembered that we would not be so apathetic to our identity
one of the two states is Madhya Pradesh. I know the CM is so enthusiastic about all this.
The other one might be Andhra / Rajasthan / UP ;)
Andhra... Its ur hallucination.
The lecture was amazing
Thankyou Sir ..
Some criticisms:
1- If you put on a chart de % of the world's GDP and its evolution throughout time, the fact that one region rises and the other falls does not imply a transfer of wealth. Normally it signals that one region expereiences high economic growth and the other is stagnating during some period.
2- The whole of Eurasia and America are full of archeological "anomalies" ( artifacts and building parts ) that cannot be explained by the current paradigm ( many are much older than 7000 years old reaching in some cases hundreds of thousands years before ).
The big difference is that in the West the clergy of the Abrahamic religions has practiced a continuous persecution of the logical implications of these findings. We have been absolutely brainwashed. In India you have been opressed during periods by islamics but most of you saw them as foreigners so you have had a real continuity in your culture. In Europe all began to crumble in 325 AC until the Renaissance when it looked to progressively renew the path of progress.
What it seems to emerge is the existence of previous civilizations before the last Ice Age ( that means to consider the posiibility that the legends of Atlántida, Hiperborea, Lemuria....etc. were real ).
India seems the be the place where a craddle happens where a culture coming from the North ( Hiperborea ? ) merges with another coming from the South ( Lemuria ? ) during a long period of many thousands of years without the "burn earth" tactics of the Abrahamic religions clergy completely brainwashing the people.
At the end of the day, we call descended from the tribe from Ethiopia millions of years ago and moved East, West, North and South.
God blessss
All literatures of this world shows development phases but the ancient Kemetic hieroglyphics (Egypt) does not show any development phases dating back as far as 4000BCE.
Ancient Egyptian literature is a very large body of work and is older than anything found as of yet.
Earliest european literature is only 900BCE.
sir can you have a interview with rajiv malhotra that will be great.
Go Fund Me, I want to hear this story. Post Tuba world and the Indian diaspora 30k BCE to present. And who were the builder/astronomers that are recorded on a possible western journey; Dwarka, Sumner, Libya/Giza, Olmec, Peru, Easter Island, New Zeland. The Plumed Serpent Ra, and Red Heads with top knots. And the similarity between Mohenjo Daro script and the Easter Island script. good luck, thanks
Toba not a tuba. lol
First question is awesome...
I have an idea…. I feel that you and your team needs to do presentations to
selected universities outside India, say Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia,
Singapore, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China, Russia,
Australia. You need to have a media coverage at the same time. This will give
you some International exposure. In the UK there is a large number of Indians
living, so you can get few contacts and ask them to organise to do public presentations
and at the same time try few Universities as well. The TV and social media
coverage must be used. You will need funds and a support group, may be Indian
businessmen. I remember watching Sashi Taroo’s debate at Oxford, it went viral,
that is exactly what you need to do and you need to get the Indians living in
other countries to get involved in this. Time is right I feel to stir this
world societies a bit, Indian Government will change its attitude to rebuild
the image. When the news hit the masses it will not be easy for those who try
to discredit you to prove you wrong.
1. Ancient Indians were developing their minds spiritually
to seek salvation when the other nations
were invading countries for greed. This is where I see the vast difference in
the Ancient Indian civilisation and the other.
Sir
I would like to suggest for the last question asked by this gentleman who was asking regarding absurdity of the years of Yuga model .Even Sumerians talked about thousands of years of life span of their kings ,which baffles the modern historians .But they are now so much obsessed with Gilgamesh and Sumerians that they instead of rejecting it's an absurd going in to deep to prove it's truthfull ness.Simikarly as that of with Egyptian civilisation ,Pharos and pyramids .West once obcessed with something they just prove it .And now the alien or extraterrestrial theory is popped up to help them to understand thousands of years of lifespans .With the alien theory ,and theory of relativity of modern science ,they suggested that these kings ,the demigods were in real sense were hybrid offsprings of the extraterrestrials and used to visit the planets or lokas ( In indian context ) there ,that made there life span increased tremendously multifold .So the actual time span calculated by the human from earth and the space traveller will not same .One year life span of space traveller can be reflected in thound of years of life span on earth .Time being always a relative ,one need to use this aspect also .I think
Write about a chapter on Charvaka and Shambukha. What else iISW reality. It is ancient or Moist it should address common man’ s life and problems I our great civilisations.
It's such a shame to see so less audiance for such a great opportunity...
Is there a place we can review the sited information and works? If so, please provide that information. I am not from India and am not familiar with a great deal of the works and concepts used from the lecture. Even some of the questions here are very much beyond my understanding due to my disconnect on a cultural level. Thank you.
I read somewhere there is a library in south India ( maybe Hydrabad ) or Mumbai where the manuscripts are kept. You can care to study them if you know sanskrit.
Why is pattanam excavation of Kerala made a satalite of keezhadi? Why was carbon dating done outside India when we have excellent reputed labs?