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  • @bhcamaro2002
    @bhcamaro2002 Před rokem +13306

    Should've saved that $6,000 for the next engine 😂

    • @alf3071
      @alf3071 Před rokem +217

      are all subarus rally cars that bad?

    • @Beastintheomlet
      @Beastintheomlet Před rokem +601

      @@alf3071Yes and No, the engine design is flawed and they are very easy to destroy but as far as we’ve seen they haven’t done some of the tried and true methods of preventing the oil starvation issues Subies have when taking hard corners. One of the biggest is using an aftermarket oil pan with a baffled design.

    • @raulins100
      @raulins100 Před rokem +221

      @@alf3071 stock the engines will last long, modding them you need to be careful and spend money on mods to support the extra power

    • @Gabrong
      @Gabrong Před rokem +328

      Porsche Boxsters are available at around 6grands, just sayin.
      PORSCHES FOR THE NEXT HI VS LOW !!!

    • @joec3090
      @joec3090 Před rokem

      @@alf3071 They're god forsaken junk piles and it boggles my mind how they have such a big following.
      If Nissa Altimas had a huge following, everyone would be scratching their heads.

  • @n0pe213
    @n0pe213 Před rokem +4015

    After seeing how expensive this season is, it makes a lot more sense why some of the other series went away and why it took so long to produce this. Love to see it!

    • @hotgarbagellc
      @hotgarbagellc Před rokem +185

      Bring back science garage

    • @aaronburratwood.6957
      @aaronburratwood.6957 Před rokem +208

      @@hotgarbagellc
      I miss Bumper to Bumper myself

    • @RENO_K
      @RENO_K Před rokem +120

      i mean tbh up to speed was a low budget series and i think that they wanna step it up more and that's why it went away
      it was good early on to grow the channel and the brand but they're evolving into something better

    • @megachonk9440
      @megachonk9440 Před rokem +91

      @@aaronburratwood.6957 Yeah, B2B was good, and well suited to letting Jeremiah's nerd flag fly while making complex engineering concepts a lot more approachable. Also, this is the best description of the Otto Cycle ever: Suck. Squeeze. Bang. Blow.

    • @brucebonner3491
      @brucebonner3491 Před rokem +28

      Well and the simple fact that society is as braindead as it could possibly be these days, and majority don't understand how the platform even works. Most people think everything is LIVE or present day was filmed within just a day or two. Not grasping that most channels film their "episodes" weeks to months before hand.
      Cause we know this whole hi-Low was starting being filmed in May/June and probably ended by August. But yet people think this is all done just last week in the beginning of December

  • @foxisretrofitting4556
    @foxisretrofitting4556 Před rokem +501

    I really liked Nolan's attention to detail on where the vortex generators actually needed to go for his application. I've always thought it was strange that they seem to always get put above the rear window whenever a spoiler was used. Nolan looking back at his "test" footage and going ahead and putting the gens on the glass where it looked like they needed to go according to the yarn movement is a real big function over style and big brain move in my book. That low car front splitter made from a template copy and plywood was the jam as well.

    • @Camburger
      @Camburger Před rokem +5

      I'm critical of vortex generators. I wanted it to work for them, I think the tiny model was too small to represent the full scale effect since the air particles weren't shrunk down as well.
      Random question, are spoilers any use to FWD cars? I don't enjoy hating on some people's builds, I'm trying to be better lol

    • @realakj05
      @realakj05 Před rokem +4

      @@Camburger I’m not quite sure. Like yea they work for all cars but I feel like you’d wanna focus more on maybe a front splitter over a rear splitter. But if you can do both that’d be great too

    • @kristjancebulj8162
      @kristjancebulj8162 Před rokem +21

      Yeah, I don't think those really do as good of a job as they could be doing if they are halfway down the rear window. Vortex generators make vortexes from laminar flow (that's where the yarn is still flowing straight), the air that's already turbulent (that's where the yarn is going crazy) is next to useless. They need to be placed where the flow is still laminar, to extend the point where it separates and becomes turbulent further back. Placing them where the separation (the point where laminar flow becomes turbulent flow) has already occured doesn't do much.

    • @lilgary9181
      @lilgary9181 Před rokem +3

      @@CamburgerKeep in mind spoilers don’t make a noticeable impact until after about 70ish MPH. Running just a rear spoiler on a FWD vehicle will actually work against it because it’s taking downforce off the front tires which will be less grip. You would want the front lip in tandem with the spoiler so the whole car gets pulled down.

    • @dustinbrueggemann1875
      @dustinbrueggemann1875 Před rokem +1

      @@Camburger The wind tunnel was only configured to measure lift, not drag, but drag is the only thing the vortex generators should really be affecting. They'd have to have used a horizontal force gauge to have shown if they actually meaningfully impacted the drag. Vortex generators are also much more apparent at higher speeds. Their tunnel was good as a proof of concept, but I highly doubt it was producing 120mph winds like the vehicle would experience.

  • @dominicdipiero272
    @dominicdipiero272 Před rokem +127

    Jeremiah continues to be the most underrated donut team member, as an engineer I love this man, making learning fun is such a great talent to have and he’s got it

  • @joebutler9755
    @joebutler9755 Před rokem +2426

    The wind tunnel element of this video is absolutely awesome. Really cool to see genuine engineering principles being brought into this.

    • @garbagetrash2938
      @garbagetrash2938 Před rokem +44

      I've been enjoying the dual story lines. One team builds and another does some explaining/testing.

    • @someguy8542
      @someguy8542 Před rokem +8

      I know right we get to see the aero of a banana

    • @ur_mid_asf
      @ur_mid_asf Před rokem +7

      that's why big papa jerry is by far my favorite, that lil engineer brain of his and the knowledge he had taught me👌🏽 he is him.

    • @TheDeadPhish1980
      @TheDeadPhish1980 Před rokem

      I agree. The wind tunnel story line accompanying the installation of everything was rad. Great work Donut!

    • @deadlyrefuge
      @deadlyrefuge Před rokem +5

      This is what makes Donut better than some other car channels. They have an actual engineer working for them (Jeremiah). So we can see this type of content! It's awesome!

  • @GavynPendleton
    @GavynPendleton Před rokem +1748

    New show idea: give each of the hosts their own budget to buy and modify any car they want with the goal of being fastest on track. It could be all the same amount, or you could do random drawings to see who gets different amounts. Everyone can take what they have learned from hi low and actually try and apply it. Also you can have some mandatory parts (safety equipment and paint jobs) that some of the budget has to go to.

    • @garrett2685
      @garrett2685 Před rokem +44

      I really like this idea!

    • @jaimespencer837
      @jaimespencer837 Před rokem +116

      Oh I'd watch TF out of this. It's like the way more expensive and car version of LTT's craigslist budget build challenges they used to do.

    • @tbugofficial
      @tbugofficial Před rokem +9

      That would just be a private racing club, would get insanely expensive for the channel lol

    • @camcaffin8475
      @camcaffin8475 Před rokem

      Mad idea for a series

    • @michaelheckman3474
      @michaelheckman3474 Před rokem +31

      @@jaimespencer837 a car scrapyard wars would be kind of sick

  • @Lucas-ie2ti
    @Lucas-ie2ti Před rokem +418

    Building your own wind tunnel and being able to explain all of this is just great! We love ya donut

  • @edmonddrake1409
    @edmonddrake1409 Před rokem +149

    Whoever came up with the idea of talking about your sponsor while putting random objects in a wind tunnel is a freaking genius. You should adopt that strategy for every add. This is the first time I've ever watched an entire ad on donut and only one of a couple times I've watched a full add on any CZcams channel. I did watch decent chunks of the Uncle Jerry has and enough of the first car relationship therapy sessions to understand the joke, but inevitably fast forward to the show content. I'm an underground member so that's how I eased my conscience about not watching the ads. But I'll keep watching them if you keep doing cool stuff during them. I'll have to.

    • @shafferpatrick219
      @shafferpatrick219 Před rokem +2

      Can confirm, it was genius

    • @tradeka4206
      @tradeka4206 Před rokem

      Yeah I’m absolutely loving that. It’s the most unobtrusive way of doing a CZcams ad that I’ve seen. It’s things like that that make Donut great!

  • @cyril2011
    @cyril2011 Před rokem +1935

    I love how they utilize the talent at doughnut, James, the personality and spokesperson, Zach, all star mechanic, Jerry, the engineer who explains things, and Nolan represents us, the frustrated enthusiasts who is Ballin on a budget but you can see the frustration in his eyes but eventually turns to pure joy once he's finished.

    • @vincentlevesque30
      @vincentlevesque30 Před rokem +116

      Don't forget the editors which make an amazing job!

    • @vincentasher9903
      @vincentasher9903 Před rokem +101

      I didn’t like Nolan at first, but i was in the wrong, he’s a cool dude, has extensive car knowledge, and he’s also one of the best drivers they have. Kudos Nolan, and my apologies for judging poorly, you’re the man!

    • @Cavemanner
      @Cavemanner Před rokem +59

      And don't forget Garage Daddy Adam who brings the mechanical knowledge as well as being an actual professional racer to help truly test the builds on track.

    • @mythicalmining7999
      @mythicalmining7999 Před rokem +12

      And Jimmy

    • @stephenhodge6441
      @stephenhodge6441 Před rokem +15

      You nailed the roles perfectly. Especially Nolan. That might be why he is my favorite.

  • @manuelcabrera3329
    @manuelcabrera3329 Před rokem +679

    Man! That wind tunnel to show the improvement was an amazing idea. Kudos to whoever came up with it

    • @scissrface2182
      @scissrface2182 Před rokem +17

      1931: The world's first full-scale wind tunnel opens at Langley Field near Hampton, Virginia.
      1936 Chrysler Imperial Airflow. The Airflow was the first American car designed using a wind tunnel.

    • @aarontimm
      @aarontimm Před rokem +3

      I did

    • @chrismanley5656
      @chrismanley5656 Před rokem +7

      Came to say the same thing. You guys are legit, scanned and 3d printed then wind tunnel tested. Amazing dedication, brilliant execution. You'll inspired another generation of shed engineers and those now kids will push the game way forward.

    • @Peanutdenver
      @Peanutdenver Před rokem +1

      @@scissrface2182 Mate those are a couple of really good car fun facts...cheers.

  • @hazvanced3876
    @hazvanced3876 Před rokem +23

    Aeronautics graduate here, great video and the concepts were extremely well explained! One thing to note though for low team is that the vortex generators help keep flow attached by energising the flow while it is still attached so it can remain attached for longer. Putting the generators so far down won't really be helping as by that point the flow is already separating.

    • @golf398
      @golf398 Před 8 měsíci

      Yea, they should have asked Jeremiah on that. Mechanical engineers have low level aero engineering in their curriculum, I think he would have caught that.
      Maybe that breaks the rules?

  • @joshbrooks2660
    @joshbrooks2660 Před rokem +59

    Gotta say this has been your best engineering explanation yet. It was simple and accurate and the wind tunnel was great! Jeremiah killed it

  • @kingofcrunk4237
    @kingofcrunk4237 Před rokem +754

    I realize that your wind tunnel was an oversimplification, but it really is AMAZING for a car channel to have built what you did to show and explain the concepts.

    • @KentRodgman
      @KentRodgman Před rokem +17

      Agreed! Really like what Jer-Bear has brought to the table.

    • @TrillMurray
      @TrillMurray Před rokem +1

      Even had a lexan gd 😂

    • @mattswank
      @mattswank Před rokem +1

      One thing I think would be really neat to see here is how they take the cars to their ultimate locations in the finale to see how well they do. The track is more accessible for sure, but would have loved to see a mountain drive at the start, stock, then return to it and time both results and see how much improvement there is. That is what these cars love doing

    • @theundergroundlairofthesqu9261
      @theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 Před rokem

      Hey, they built a rocket car. Rocket car.

    • @hoagietime1
      @hoagietime1 Před rokem +1

      Pretty awesome, but air doesn't scale, it acts as a heavier fluid at small scale than when at full scale. That's why bumble bees literally swim through the air, not fly. But still awesome.

  • @stephenhodge6441
    @stephenhodge6441 Před rokem +248

    That conclusion seemed really rushed. I liked how in the first season you sat down and asked each other "does more money mean more better".

    • @ndubitably
      @ndubitably Před rokem +24

      The results as presented were pretty definitive though. The cheaper option was also the faster one and there didn't seem to be too much difference in installation. There didn't seem to be a lot of nuance to debate.

    • @emmanuelhpun
      @emmanuelhpun Před rokem +23

      @@ndubitably Valid points, but it'd be fun as viewer to have more reaction than 2 sec conclusion

    • @TheBajamin
      @TheBajamin Před rokem +6

      @@ndubitably This isn't correct though. I made a post about it. Its like putting a new wing on an f1 car and "only" gaining .1 second. Then claiming that low car must be better because it got 1.2 seconds. Makes no sense. High car is likely closer to the potential of the car overall so addons will have smaller gains as you get closer to the limit. Where high car was still 2.2 seconds faster on the same tires.

    • @ndubitably
      @ndubitably Před rokem

      @@emmanuelhpun I generally enjoy those discussions, but this doesn't seem to be the test for it.

    • @shifty272
      @shifty272 Před rokem

      @@TheBajamin exactly my thoughts

  • @chronk5636
    @chronk5636 Před rokem +8

    Since aero isn't entirely based on how it's made ( expensive materials etc ) but more on how it fits the specific track needs for the specific vehicle you want , half of the 6000$ should go to a consultation from a aerodynamicist for a custom made package. That would definitely show a better improvement on lap times.

    • @shinn43
      @shinn43 Před rokem +2

      I think the intention was for aero packages you can buy off the shelf rather than custom so the viewers/us can be informed whether we should spend the upcharge or spend conservatively.

    • @chronk5636
      @chronk5636 Před rokem +2

      @@shinn43 Fair enough. Even though, I doubt if anyone wanted to mess with that high of a price aero parts without running some type of simulation or testing. Otherwise it's not testing performance gain , but only the looks of it. Given the fact that they are building time attack cars , the splitter and the wing should have some type of tune.
      Aero is a very tricky thing were you could spend so much yet have almost no time gain at all if you don't plan/test.
      In fsae for example, some teams opt for not adding the weight of aero components just because the aero benefits don't "outweigh" the aero "gains".

  • @samuelmartin865
    @samuelmartin865 Před rokem +9

    You are KILLING IT with the sponsor segments. I have literally never seen anyone do a better job of it.

  • @amorton94
    @amorton94 Před rokem +1040

    Now we need another yarn "test" to see if Nolan's "vortex generators" work where they are!

    • @vincentasher9903
      @vincentasher9903 Před rokem +16

      I thought it was a great idea

    • @khris8736
      @khris8736 Před rokem +65

      Don't think it will. You want to generate vortexes whilst the flow is still attached, so where people normally put them. The flow is already separated where they are planning on putting them, hence they aren't as effective.

    • @amorton94
      @amorton94 Před rokem +23

      @@khris8736 I understand why they're typically placed where they are. Nolan placed his where he did based on his own evidence. I now want to see the same test done to see if his placement did anything, whether positive or negative. Do the same with Hi Car too.

    • @khris8736
      @khris8736 Před rokem +2

      @@amorton94 yeah deffo seeing it would be nice to see. My comments were more about what I would see on the follow up test. Based on experience, I would expect the change to be negligible due to the above comments. Seeing the follow up test on hi car would be really good to see and help visualise improvements.

    • @UpperDarbyDetailing
      @UpperDarbyDetailing Před rokem

      Definitely @

  • @one_mans_film_3887
    @one_mans_film_3887 Před rokem +510

    Well now I'm less embarrassed of my DIY parts 😂

    • @matthewjohnson3518
      @matthewjohnson3518 Před rokem +32

      if it works and it works dont be embarrassed b proud

    • @dudewtf1776
      @dudewtf1776 Před rokem +14

      Don't ever be embarrassed about that. you're built, not bought. That's something to be proud of.

    • @Mikey.5000
      @Mikey.5000 Před rokem +4

      Don’t be embarrassed. DIY is part of the car game. Sometimes you have to make your own parts

    • @devileye2132
      @devileye2132 Před rokem

      @@Mikey.5000 he said less but yeah

    • @ShawnD__
      @ShawnD__ Před rokem +1

      these series have gave me the confidence to just get the shit done 😂

  • @victoruzumaki130
    @victoruzumaki130 Před rokem +3

    I loved this episode you guys did a great job explaining aerodynamics in the simplest terms possible

  • @Shahabbi
    @Shahabbi Před rokem +1

    Thank you for explaining what each aero part does on the car. Really helped with understanding why each part matters!

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz Před rokem +437

    I wish you guys would go back to the format that had Nolan and James discuss which mods they felt were most "worth it" at the end of each episode.

    • @Marcara081
      @Marcara081 Před rokem +14

      They couldn't here because they had no idea.

    • @biocta
      @biocta Před rokem +25

      @@Marcara081 Well they haven't in any of the episodes, James is just saying "okay high car won this time" mostly off raw performance and I feel like value for money isn't even being considered in some of the episodes

    • @jonmadden59
      @jonmadden59 Před rokem +7

      That's for us to interpret and decide

    • @bigman7083
      @bigman7083 Před rokem +11

      @@biocta this series is def rushed and more haphazard then previous ones, i think it's because of all the stress and problems they have been having.

    • @biocta
      @biocta Před rokem +11

      @@bigman7083 Oh yes it’s very rushed, it’s a shame, but it’s absolutely understandable considering they’ve been going through a new motor every episode. I hope whatever next season is they pick a car that’s actually reliable and we get a return to form of the last two seasons

  • @ScottyFlysFast
    @ScottyFlysFast Před rokem +1250

    Donut dudes,
    I'm literally one class away from my Aeronautics degree and you guys (Jerry, but I'm sure everyone was involved in research) did an amazing job discussing the aerodynamics of cars, producing lift, and producing downforce. Keep up the good work!

    • @Jonasz314
      @Jonasz314 Před rokem +14

      yeah, as you can tell, the aero used on this type of car are really 'anti-lift' devices. It takes massive parts to actually generate any kind of downforce at those speeds.

    • @ScottyFlysFast
      @ScottyFlysFast Před rokem +6

      @@Jonasz314 which is wild. If you’ve ever seen a plane with a “T-tail” it kind of looks like a wing on a car. That T-tail is actually generating downforce, or negative lift. It has to do to keep the dynamic stability of the plane.

    • @rage660
      @rage660 Před rokem +2

      In my mini moons of research I vaguely recollect a cancellation effect when combining a roof diffuser with spoiler. ?

    • @daveycash3479
      @daveycash3479 Před rokem +2

      That’s a cool degree man, congrats!

    • @ScottyFlysFast
      @ScottyFlysFast Před rokem +4

      @@rage660 I’m not sure. I specialize in planes not cars lol!

  • @freekozoid42069
    @freekozoid42069 Před rokem +19

    "We bought 7 nearly identical Subaru boxer engines" 😂
    Thanks for your sacrifices guys lol

  • @jackstrutz
    @jackstrutz Před rokem +16

    The effort this video took to film is felt and appreciated my dudes!!

  • @christinabunbun9272
    @christinabunbun9272 Před rokem +328

    I love the new series, but I miss the parts at the end when everyone sits down and actually discusses each of the car's mods. Like the overall hassle of installing, and discussing whether it was worth the time and money, and if its even worth doing something similar yourself. I understand a lot of the info is in the video, but the overall conclusion for the part is a nice way to wrap things up.
    ps: team locar

    • @PaletoB
      @PaletoB Před rokem +18

      Yea the endings feel a bit abrupt, but then they haven't exactly had a easy time and are probably crunching to make up for lost time.

    • @christinabunbun9272
      @christinabunbun9272 Před rokem +4

      @@PaletoB 100% yes. I think it's worth mentioning in case they think people don't miss it, but I would rather a video that actually releases than a video that takes months to polish

    • @jc0721
      @jc0721 Před rokem +2

      @@christinabunbun9272 There are deadlines to videos like these. I'm sure ebay motors sponsored this on the expectation the videos would come out around the holidays. They probably didn't have the ability to wait to release them.

    • @dannyhunter607
      @dannyhunter607 Před rokem

      Yup, I agree 100%. My favorite was the lsd episode of the z's

  • @Sewerllama
    @Sewerllama Před rokem +201

    I absolutely love this series. Never stop. Definitely bring back Nolan and James discussing which mods were worth the money at the end.

  • @juliabui1264
    @juliabui1264 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Jeremiah’s engineering integration into all episodes of this season have been fantastic!

  • @JordanPayneLV
    @JordanPayneLV Před rokem +9

    Adding those under trays really took this challenge up a notch

  • @cuaveboscone
    @cuaveboscone Před rokem +361

    This show has made me afraid of ever buying a subaru haha

    • @grammerpolicedeputy6913
      @grammerpolicedeputy6913 Před rokem +35

      Don't let it. These guys don't know enough about subarus to properly mod them for track purposes. Check out the latest Flatirons Turning podcast about why these guys keep blowing up these boxers and how these guys are doing things improperly and blaming the cars.

    • @lovingtennessee7726
      @lovingtennessee7726 Před rokem +77

      @@grammerpolicedeputy6913 that's like the guys arguing that the 6.0 powerstroke being a great engine. If you have go put $20,000 I do the engine to make it a good engine, it's a garbage engine.

    • @marcospadilla2406
      @marcospadilla2406 Před rokem +15

      @@grammerpolicedeputy6913 couldn’t agree more. Subaru’s are such fun and reliable cars if proper tuning and maintenance is done..beat the shit out of mine for 5 years and never blew a block

    • @amorton94
      @amorton94 Před rokem +33

      Good, it should. They're shit boxes and always have been. They just checked a few boxes which is why they're popular. Good aesthetics, AWD, turbo, manual, rally history, with the added bonus of sounding good (even though now they all sound like shit with equal length headers because it took someone 20+ years to figure out that unequal length was causing issues due to differences in exhaust back pressure). Add on top of that, you simply can't find one anymore that isn't clapped out. If you somehow do, you're paying stupid money.
      But as long as the subi fans keep buying shit cars, my cousin will have a good job fixing them, so keep on buying them! 😂

    • @jamesgraveymedia
      @jamesgraveymedia Před rokem +7

      @@lovingtennessee7726 I guess every engine is shit then since race motors cost a minimum $20k on any platform 🤷‍♂️

  • @EnzyteBob117
    @EnzyteBob117 Před rokem +87

    As a former WRX owner, I was waiting for another catastrophe on track and the suspense did not disappoint! Good work, gents! The transparency of showing the down side is appreciated!

    • @mikeyo1O1
      @mikeyo1O1 Před rokem +2

      If these guys knew anything about subies, they could've avoided all the trouble from the gate, but they don't, they didn't, and they got what they deserved.

    • @juvedoo99
      @juvedoo99 Před rokem

      I almost got a WRX not too long ago. I’m glad I didn’t. They’re cool af but I just don’t want the smoke (pun intended).

    • @mattwhite7475
      @mattwhite7475 Před rokem

      @@juvedoo99 Subis aren't as bad as they have been represented on here. I like donut but if you got to someone who knows what they are doing with subis they can handle a good amount of power on 1 stock block.

  • @toddscars
    @toddscars Před rokem +10

    I love how much of a rush production is once the track day rolls up, really seems like a time crunch

  • @elayda93
    @elayda93 Před rokem

    I love this video! Thank you guys. Thank you Jerry for the explanations about aerodynamics. I'll use this video to better explain to my colleagues how aero works on a car and it's not just a "stupid accessory".

  • @nathanpurcell6835
    @nathanpurcell6835 Před rokem +133

    Next Season can you switch the teams between high and low cars? I think it'd be entertaining to see how each of the teams reacts to now having to deal with the others parts considering how everything has gone so far.
    keep up the awesome work tho!

    • @leviof1996
      @leviof1996 Před rokem +4

      Considering James is the Editor in Chief, head writer, and everyone's boss, i'm gonna guess he's going to continue writing scripts where he happens to be in hicar

    • @jooot_6850
      @jooot_6850 Před rokem

      @@leviof1996 ☠️

  • @Gu1tarZer0
    @Gu1tarZer0 Před rokem +218

    I love that clip of James crashing every video, it's gold. He will never live that down hahaha

  • @brandonfoltiny3943
    @brandonfoltiny3943 Před rokem +1

    Did a good job demonstrating friction and pressure drag with the model on this video. Having an engineering degree with an automotive concentration, this video was very enjoyable

  • @TRHardware
    @TRHardware Před rokem +1

    Windtunnel part added so much to this episode, amazing work!

  • @schummi9988
    @schummi9988 Před rokem +111

    For me, this episode was one of the best from this season. It just had the right feeling, the right mix of knowledge, science and humor. The installations were shown in detail, easy to follow and understand, immensely explained but thrilling to watch at the same time. Great Episode

  • @nephrium
    @nephrium Před rokem +23

    I love seeing Adam getting involved in low car. He's a get it done kind of guy.

  • @wormspeaker
    @wormspeaker Před 11 měsíci +1

    Y'all did an amazing job on the wind tunnel segments. Threaded the needle of keeping it simple enough for the average viewer to understand, but in-depth enough to teach something.

  • @MrHSwager
    @MrHSwager Před rokem +1

    I love the continued increase in the SCIENCE behind the equipment. I watch these with my boys to get them interested in STEM

  • @ElPants21
    @ElPants21 Před rokem +11

    Jerry carried this episode with the nuance of aero. More like this pls

  • @LeonardoCandu
    @LeonardoCandu Před rokem +205

    Donut is the only channel that can make ads funny and watchable

    • @aBoogivogi
      @aBoogivogi Před rokem +6

      Nah. Internet historian is much better at it although the content is completely different.

    • @anusername8350
      @anusername8350 Před rokem +1

      Tomska?

    • @kwamea.n1723
      @kwamea.n1723 Před rokem

      Vilebrequin !

    • @free4fire
      @free4fire Před rokem

      Internet historian was already mentioned but I'm gonna add Ryan George to the list as well, those Ads are basically a second skit after the main one.

    • @Marcara081
      @Marcara081 Před rokem +1

      @@aBoogivogi Raycon good; wires bad.

  • @A_lame_shady
    @A_lame_shady Před rokem

    This shows are so special. I'm writting an essay about cars and I decided to add ero dynamics and this video is helping me a ton.

  • @xjustxin203x
    @xjustxin203x Před rokem +2

    Appreciate the time you guys took to explain what each part does!

  • @RobertHarridge
    @RobertHarridge Před rokem +15

    I would like to mention there is a reason why Subaru went with the roof spoiler versus the vortex generator on the 06-07 STi. It’s with the slope angle of the rear window pairing with the factory STi spoiler. The roof spoiler was able to redirect air more effectively down the rear glass, producing more air under the rear wing. The factory STi spoiler would shake like crazy at speed on the MY04-MY05 STi, but the spoiler shake was drastically reduced with the implementation of the roof spoiler. There may have been better results if the roof spoiler was utilized over the roof diffuser.
    Some may bring up the Evo having a roof diffuser. The reason it worked better for the Evo was the rear glass angle was less than the STi, the trunk lid was also longer, and the Evo VII, VIII, and IX had a more raked spoiler, where the STi was damn near vertical, so for the Evo, the roof diffuser worked efficiently, where the STi had more benefit from a redirection of air.

  • @Cavemanner
    @Cavemanner Před rokem +39

    This episode truly slaps! Jerry getting to nerd out and use his actual engineering with the mini wind tunnel, Nolan getting the satisfaction of mo money not being mo better, and no one blew an engine! Just lost a tire, which is stupidly minor in the grand scheme. Awesome episode, boys! 🍻

  • @C_F_M
    @C_F_M Před rokem +13

    The better you get, the harder it is to improve.
    Loved the cinderblock in the wind tunnel btw lmao

  • @testowykana1763
    @testowykana1763 Před měsícem

    First time I see this channel. Watched it, didn't expect it to be so thorough and high quality, the modelling part was super interesting. Loved it.

  • @annieworroll4373
    @annieworroll4373 Před rokem +58

    It would be interesting ina high/low season to do a followup with a third car, where you take the expensive parts where you'd recommend them, and the cheap ones you'd recommend, and see how that car compares against high and low.

  • @issacnewton9443
    @issacnewton9443 Před rokem +47

    I'm not even halfway in and this might be the best episode of Hi Low yet. I'm hoping Low team may be onto an advantage with the vortex placement and the $100 active aero on the trunk.

  • @pierstonsalinas940
    @pierstonsalinas940 Před rokem +1

    Love how technical these videos are

  • @kevinkyser1274
    @kevinkyser1274 Před rokem +1

    I am so enjoying this series! Keep up the great work!

  • @pottsniffgrond8488
    @pottsniffgrond8488 Před rokem +26

    A bonus JerBear tutorial and a mini wind tunnel? This is a right slice of goodness! 👌

  • @johnkilo3
    @johnkilo3 Před rokem +73

    Good episode, especially with the wind tunnel. I do miss the ending where you guys break down whether or not spending more is worth it, though.

    • @leviof1996
      @leviof1996 Před rokem +1

      they said in this video that low car won, spending was not worth it (low car actually performed better for cheaper--probably because fabricating besope aero from video analytics is better than buying expensive off the shelf stuff)

  • @java090
    @java090 Před rokem

    Lovin this series. Gettin a little low car in the high car recipe and vice versa!

  • @alexbare7181
    @alexbare7181 Před rokem +1

    With the numbers you’re already squeezing from high car .6 seconds is a meaningful gain, low car gaining double that is easier considering. What I’m impressed with is that both actually improved on time with the weight increase, goes to show aero is pretty important

  • @CwPlatapuZ
    @CwPlatapuZ Před rokem +31

    The wing doesn't produce downforce from air pushing against it, but think of it like an upside down airplane wing. The air moves faster under the wing then on top, causing negative lift. This is controlled by the shape and angle of the wing, similar to a wing airfoil.

    • @V8_Diva
      @V8_Diva Před rokem +1

      Spoilers are the ones that do that, right?

    • @JohnnyDoeDoeDoe
      @JohnnyDoeDoeDoe Před rokem +6

      Some of the downforce is also from the angle of attack, as in airplanes as well

    • @celderian
      @celderian Před rokem

      @@V8_Diva Correct but they also disrupt the air coming from the top of the car killing the lift that the body may be generating.

    • @niccilus7758
      @niccilus7758 Před rokem +1

      @@V8_Diva spoilers are designed for improving airflow, instead of increasing downforce. They’re useful for SUVs and hatchbacks since they have large, flat rear ends (2:30 negative space) which create larger negative spaces which reduces stability at high speeds. For simplisticities sake: spoilers improve a car with bad aerodynamics, a wing improves a cars downforce.

    • @V8_Diva
      @V8_Diva Před rokem

      @@niccilus7758 I'm also referring to the massive spoilers found on stock cars.

  • @MeesDeppe_Official
    @MeesDeppe_Official Před rokem +141

    These sponsor sections are so good, makes me wanna watch em again instead of skipping

  • @NedTheDread
    @NedTheDread Před rokem +1

    Much respect for building the wind tunnel and doing scale model stuff, that was super cool

  • @BogeyTheBear
    @BogeyTheBear Před 8 měsíci

    Fun Fact: Both carbon fiber-reinforced plastic _and_ plywood are composite materials. A composite material is a combination of two or more materials designed so the strengths of one will overcome the weaknesses of another.
    With plywood, those differing materials are woodgrain set in alternating directions. In CFRP, the carbon fiber holds the epoxy resin together against tension and shearing forces.

  • @alexpaz7870
    @alexpaz7870 Před rokem +54

    Nolan’s jacket is sick, fits his Japanese mechanic look perfectly! Love the content can’t wait for the next episode

  • @bednarekcharles9280
    @bednarekcharles9280 Před rokem +38

    “We are going to test these components HEAD TO HEAD and see who’s motor blows first this episode”

    • @adamsbja
      @adamsbja Před rokem +2

      "We blew an engine so today we're talking about diagnosis and finding out how screwed we are."
      "...wait, is this a repeat?"

  • @nissan180typex
    @nissan180typex Před rokem

    Best video of this series. Really liked the testing with the home made wind tunnel.

  • @cgarrett2212
    @cgarrett2212 Před rokem

    This series has been the only entertainment I’ve been watching lol , loved the Tacoma series

  • @captaindelta43
    @captaindelta43 Před rokem +30

    Science garage was really one of the OG best series from Donut. But seeing these high low series it's pretty clear that it would have cost a lot to make other series simultaneously. Love this episode 😍

    • @andrewsang4688
      @andrewsang4688 Před rokem +1

      I feel like science garage was very cheap to make though. Just do some research, put together a slideshow, show off a couple parts, then you're good. This show seems so much more expensive.

  • @kristofermann2917
    @kristofermann2917 Před rokem +15

    the model diffuser demo was impressive. great job as always!

  • @Andyp109
    @Andyp109 Před rokem

    I love the aerodynamics lesson. I’m a pilot and this is better than a few ground lessons I’ve heard 😂

  • @jOoomOooo
    @jOoomOooo Před rokem

    i am an engineer with a large back ground in fluid dynamics and this is really a pretty good explanation of concepts coming from donut
    like
    MOST of the time i was like "ok thats pretty good"
    stuff like "vortex generators" are just not dramatic to be impactful tbh

  • @liamgeary4341
    @liamgeary4341 Před rokem +9

    Are we eventually going to see a HiLow drag racing season? 👀 I’m honestly looking to put my life into Motorsports and automotive full time and the donut media crew has inspired me!

  • @pv2smurf
    @pv2smurf Před rokem +9

    Jeremiah is the reason I'm here. We need more of this guys engineering knowledge

  • @stelleratorsuprise8185

    Your expalantion with DIY windtunnel is great, it explains a lot.

  • @ChrisK-bu3gw
    @ChrisK-bu3gw Před rokem

    7:02 I study mechanical engineering at the university of Ingolstadt (hometown of Audi) and they taught us that turbulent air is better attached to an object which means that the vortex generators are way to much behind the “big curve” where the air starts to detach from the car. They must get attached shortly before the air starts to detach to generate turbulent air flow so the air sticks to the car for longer. Audi for example generated turbulent air on their DTM cars by glueing some kind of wires to the diffusor which allowed them to make the Diffusor steeper without detaching the air flow. Hence they had very slow air behind the car but very fast air unter the car.

  • @Beastintheomlet
    @Beastintheomlet Před rokem +46

    Ok…. I have to buy a T-Shirt now, just to help fund Donut’s consumption of boxer engines in this series 😂

  • @STDavis-em1df
    @STDavis-em1df Před rokem +3

    10:16
    FYI, don’t mount mount your splitter supports to the plastic bumper. For something that will see 10s and maybe hundreds (optimistic) pounds of downforce, the last thing you want is the support ripping out of the bumper or the bumper ripping out of it’s attachment points. Secure it so a stiff part of the body and preferably the frame.

  • @farzamimani5339
    @farzamimani5339 Před rokem +2

    The quality of these videos are unmatched man

  • @DevDude1017
    @DevDude1017 Před rokem

    God I lovw this show! The video quality is badass! Keep it up guys. Late nights in the garage for life

  • @IvoCSS
    @IvoCSS Před rokem +3

    Congratulations! This episode was awesome!!! The explanations was very cool and interesting! 🙏

  • @jzengotita90
    @jzengotita90 Před rokem +4

    Love how well the new high car color goes with low car.

  • @M0NEYYT
    @M0NEYYT Před rokem +1

    i love these episodes so much

  • @krisfarlee
    @krisfarlee Před rokem

    Wow Jerrbear that windtunnel is sick! Thanks for the intellectually stimulating episode! Also, IMO it makes sense that even cheap parts that are strategically placed would yield better results than "nicer" parts that are mass produced to fit on a variety of cars.

  • @shredandenjoy7311
    @shredandenjoy7311 Před rokem +2

    Getting into some pretty good times! Curious to see what you'll even do next in the chase for better times.

  • @loganemig8212
    @loganemig8212 Před rokem +8

    I love this new format of the video. It's like all your series combined. Jerry's explanations alongside you guys actually doing it, it's really nice.

  • @thesuperkat943
    @thesuperkat943 Před rokem

    Gotta say, the scale model of the high/low trucks in the wind tunnel was a cool callback to the previous series at 4:50

  • @Edwin-k7xZ
    @Edwin-k7xZ Před rokem +1

    Gotta love how James is never pretentious.

  • @jayceno384
    @jayceno384 Před rokem +4

    Hi Low is amazing as a series, it takes time and money and honestly seeing you guys taking hits like blown engines really hurts. You guys are busy but I kinda miss the style of older Hi Low. More relaxed, showing bloopers and racing on the track. The building takes a chunk of a vid I know but seeing the racing take only a few minutes makes me wish there was more. Miss the old Hi Low but great job either way!

  • @djs82a29
    @djs82a29 Před rokem +4

    I'm curious to know what each car weighs before, and after all of these mods.

  • @nix8946
    @nix8946 Před 11 měsíci

    High quality production videos as always Donut. You guys are unmatched ❤️

  • @lilwinstonlilwinston4171

    I'm 15 and have learned most of the stuff I know about cars from donut big thanx to you guys

  • @jordanrooker8474
    @jordanrooker8474 Před rokem +8

    I'd be really interested to see Hi car and Low car in a wind tunnel now, I want to see if those lower mounted vortex generators made any significant contribution 😅
    I also wonder if the big difference could have been caused by removing the entire bumper vs just the splitter, if that had a significant impact.
    Either way, awesome episode as always, Donut Media really is the best.

    • @fruitygranulizer540
      @fruitygranulizer540 Před rokem +3

      i doubt it. the strings there weren't flowing in the same direction not because of disrupted airflow, but rather a lack of airflow. and u want as much air to flow through the vortex generators as possible so u have as much clean air going to the wings.
      vortex generators already make a very small difference in aerodynamics, and if mounted where low car mounted them, i have no doubt they did absolutely nothing

  • @MorganBlahaj
    @MorganBlahaj Před 8 měsíci +1

    I like how they knew that putting a camera in the wind tunnel immediately meant we wanna see the camera's perspective of in the wind tunnel

  • @sammedley4211
    @sammedley4211 Před rokem

    You need to make a series where you test out basic work truck highs and lows like winches and storage racks etc

  • @lukebrideau811
    @lukebrideau811 Před rokem +3

    I don’t think you guys can say you bought 2WRX’s anymore you’re basically bought four at this point

  • @achilles_kbab
    @achilles_kbab Před rokem +3

    Babe wake up new Donut video

  • @gusrockes
    @gusrockes Před rokem

    vortex generators on the roof are for side ways airflow to help direct it to the spoiler, it doesn't do much normally but at the highest level of performance at full speed, it helps.

  • @PhaseSkater
    @PhaseSkater Před rokem

    Adding downforce like the splitter and wing also increase drag

  • @Billy.Butcher
    @Billy.Butcher Před rokem +3

    Front splitter from plywood? Jeremy Clarkson approves.

  • @Christopher_TG
    @Christopher_TG Před rokem +3

    I love, love, LOVE that they have Jeremiah breaking out his "Bumper-2-Bumper" host energy and have him explain the mechanics and engineering principles behind these modifications. Adds a new dimension to Hi-Low that wasn't there in the previous seasons.

  • @PokemonHitsLetsgo
    @PokemonHitsLetsgo Před rokem +2

    I love how they use a blob eye for the animations. Definitely the best impreza overall.

  • @80sPotosino
    @80sPotosino Před rokem

    Love the cars are pain t-shirt ad, as soon as he got the wrong part 🤣 🤣 Very accurate 👍🏼

  • @mikealberto504
    @mikealberto504 Před rokem +5

    1- Wing Spoiler 2:17
    2- Vortex Generator 5:05
    3- Air Dam & Splitter 7:16
    4- Undertray 10:27
    5- Rear Diffuser. 12:17