DCS F-16C Viper BVR Engagement Step By Step Walkthrough & Tutorial!
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2020
- Hey guys! This video is all about helping you guys get into understanding BVR engagements and what your mindset should be, where your eyes should be in the cockpit, how you should be using your Radar and Data-link and what you should be looking for outside of the jet.
This BVR engagement is broken down into steps where I periodically pause the engagement and explain what is going on and what my next move will be.
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Hey guys! I hope this video helps you guys get started with flying in BVR engagments, keep in mind that it will take a lot of practice and studying before you can get good at it, but once you understand the basics it can be a TON of fun!
Great video. I'm going to have to schedule a private lesson with you soon, to learn the F/16. Trying to read up about it as much as I can before that.
Martin Klaus awesome man well I’m always available
@National Christian Constitutionalist Party I did some math on it. Two aircraft roughly at co-altitude, 100 nm apart, will appear to be about 2 degrees below their respective artificial horizon lines in the HUD. The maximum line of sight visibility range for two aircraft at 35-40 k feet is around 400 nm, with the physical horizon appearing roughly 5 degrees below the artificial horizon line in the HUD. A 1 bar scan ought to cover about 5 degrees of elevation (2.5 above and 2.5 below straight and level,) 2 bars would cover about 7.5 degrees and a four bar scan would cover 12.5 degrees worth of elevation, so the required depression angle for the radar should be fairly slight.
Because DCS simply doesn't model Earth curvature. It would be a pain to do. So they didn't worry about it.
@National Christian Constitutionalist Party U making flat earth claims or do you have any valid evidence to back up your statement
Thanks Spud and Kortana, this is super interesting. Especially the stuff on how to judge when a missle is defeated.
wraithbone ya man don’t be defensive anymore than you need to be!
I just press f10 lol
@@yieovgwqxaz7912thats illegal
If it wasn't for guys like you that take the time for these much needed vids, I would've bounced from DCS. Learning systems, flying, and fighting. This vid brought it together. Time to practice, Thank you.
Finally, an American explaining this!
I just discovered your channel through CZcams recommendation and it’s just awesome! I just bought the f-16 and saw a video of Growling Sidewinder with the f-16 in a bvr fight and it seemed so hard and it is... but thanks to your video i understood it all and it is a lot of fun!
now imagine doing that but having to do commands to jester in the f-14 to get a lock and being unable to do so, while also not having a perfect datalink to see where everyone and everything is.
@@PatrickRatman just use the radar without tts lock. I practice only fly f-14 even tho I own f-16 and f-18
I really need more practice in the F16, feels like I only know 30-40% of what it's capable of, but I get distracted every time by that awesome view out of the Cockpit, it is so cool looking around without anything in the way
Great video buddy. With the f16 coming along an me thinking about dusting it off and pulling it out of the hanger, this is a much enjoyed and needed video!
Wow! This was super interesting to watch, definitely deserves more views and likes :) You gained a sub!
Haha thanks man I am glad you liked it!
If I need to go ahead and go ahead and say "Let's go ahead and..." , then I always go ahead and go ahead and watch a Spudknocker video :P Cheers for the video! I'm going to go ahead and try these tips out.
fantastic tips.. I actually picked up a few things I never knew!
Shooting after mach 1.0 thank u Spud & Kortana took good notes there, great vid!
Great Video Spud!
Thank you! You guys are all awesome and generous to take the time to help other people learn. It has changed my perspective on learning by watching everyone in spreading a wealth of knowledge in lessons. I can't get enough now! Feed me Seymour! Thanks for all you do Spudknocker!
Great flying with you as always, Spudknocker!
Pleased to see you got your sound coming through much better in this video, than in the AV8B vid.
Yep, it was interference caused by a virtual audio out that I was trying to use to record my voice from within SRS. Disabling the virtual audio out did the trick 😊
As always. Haha, cool. Could you hear him the whole time talking to his audience about the best ways to shoot you out of the sky? Was it planned that he wins the match or was it possible for the F-18 to win this thing? If not, then heads up to your guts. In VR and such stuff I can imagine things get pretty real some times.
@@Finn-tl7nw Haha, yeah, we were on the same comms channel, so I could hear him the entire time. In terms of it being planned for him to win, it definitely wasn't. We ended up doing something like 6-8 takes, and we were very evenly matched in those aircraft. In several of the rounds we actually ended up trading kills, but we each won 1 or 2 as well. I would highly recommend playing DCS in VR if your computer can handle it as it is very immersive!
@@KortanaDCS Yea... well... My PC cost 600€... eight Years ago. I don't think it can handle this monster. Anyways I enjoy it way too much to observe you people fly in this game. It is fun, entertaining and I learn a dozen new things every time. So I stay here on the ground and watch you fly circles around each other. Have fun and good hunting. Oh yea, and it is impressive that you invest so much time in the videos to make them as good as they are. Thank you.
This was truly helpful for me, thank k you so much for the help!
In overall very nice video Spud. Thanks for summarizing those in one short tutorial. One remark though. Worth to mention that you can use air labels. I wondered how the heck you were able to see those missile's coming from so far away till I saw those are "dot" labels. They are drawn over your cockpit in 17:43
Very helpful! Thank you!
Very helpful Spud
Hey Spud, great video.
Ive never been the best at BVR in the Viper so this was a nice watch. However I was wondering what you mean when you say "relative motion on a missile".
Thanks :D
If a missile is tracking you it will appear stationary, if it appears to slide forward or backward that is relative motion and it is no longer tracking you
Gudday Mate,
I'm a former Royal Aussie Air Force GCI, and former GCI instructor, and I just wanted to pass on how much I appreciate this tutorial. If only I'd had DCS and CZcams to help teach these principals back then! I Also, would you mind sharing the time of day and weather settings you used for this mission? I'd love to replicate these conditions in some of my own missions.. Thanks!
I’m glad you liked it dude! I believe it’s like somewhere around 5 in the evening in winter on the Caucasus map!
@@Spudknocker Ah, too easy! Thanks for that Spud, Love Your work ;)
@@nickatgmail Awesome man thank you!
@@nickatgmail DCS is free... Since you are writing comments here you have CZcams and the potential to make CZcams videos
Thanks@@sahhull, but I think the CZcams DCS market is pretty saturated these days, and well served by these guys ;o). I was in the RAAF '92 to '13, so the teaching and driving jets around is in the past, I'm now into my second career which limits my DCS stick and throttle time ;). Never say never though, right?
a bud here i enjoy your videos Spud thank you for all the help
No problem man I’m glad they help you out!
great video.very good explanations
nice video sir, very clear explaining of what is happening.
i have a question though, in your video i can see the inbound missiles very clearly. i usually have a hard time spotting them. is there a setting somewhere that helps with that?
at about 17:43 i can even see them through the cockpit or is this done specially for this training video?
Late on this one. An excellent explanation, thank you, however really struggle actually seeing things such as the oncoming missiles when watching these videos on You Tube. Whether something is lost visually in the uploading process or not can't say but often seems like things are being described that are nigh on impossible to make out. Thanks for taking the time to poat these tutorials though.
He's using the wrong terminology when he says he's 'beaming' her- He's 'cranking' her which is putting enemy on your gimbal limit. Beaming is putting the enemies or incoming missile radar on your 3 or 9 oclock. You can't beam in this situation because your missiles are slaving to your radar and they'll lose lock. The F-16C's radar sweeps only 60 degrees left or right and beaming requires that you fly 90 degrees from the enemy radar. Beaming is to hide in the doppler clutter notch so enemy missile can't lock or loses lock. Cranking is forcing a missile to fly a much longer intercept path so you can maintain your lock on the enemy but the enemy radar/missile will still track you.
Growling Sidewinder does a better job in explaining some of this stuff in a more complete and context relevant sort of way. What is sort of egregiously missing about this guide is a slightly more in-depth the behavior of the AIM-120C and what "pitbull" means. Most people casually know the AIM-120C is "fire and forget" relative to the AIM-7. This isn't completely true however, as the AIM-120C still needs to be guided by the launch aircraft a certain distance before it will guide itself to a target. I'm sure this is a part of BVR strategy because it helps you decide when/if you can beam versus crank. I know Spudknocker knows because he said something in this video related to it, but didn't explain it at all.
Also notably missing is what speed and altitude you might want to be at for the start of an engagement and why; how your radar should be set up before an engagement and why; how you should be operating your radar and adjusting it to get appropriate updates; what visual cues you might use to spot an incoming missile or aircraft as you close.
What was good and I haven't seen in other videos was an offering of the idea of how to know when you've defeated an enemy missile and can stop defending. It was a bit weak though as no one can use an F10 map during their own engagement. If you used F10 after the fact, it's too late so you kind of need to know what them missile state based on your SA of the launching aircraft and the path and distance you forced the missile to take. If you're going to review a dogfight that has already occurred, Tacview is the tool of choice.
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Putting a missile on your 3 or 9 o'clock is notching. Not beaming. Beaming is different.
Yeah that bothered me a lot. He says he is beaming on his first crank, then says he is cranking when he turns it into an f-pole maneuver, and then he says he is doing an f-pole when going cold. Its like he knows but is all scrambled. Maybe its a scripting issue?
G'day Spud, I like your tutorial, cristall clear with those pauses and how to do Fox 3 BVR mode. Anyway, I would like a Fox 1 againist Fox 3 BVR engagement, so at least some of the DCS player and myself has another tool of engagement and can rely on other missile like Sparrow to actually kill a SPAMRAAMer. I would like to see this tutorial, considered so many online players do a SPAMRAAM things in 104th or GS server. This tutorial also can help a reenactor playing a downgraded Viper arm with Sparrow only engage another Viper arm with Amraam. That will be cool thing to see Spud!
firman effendi hey man just FYI the F-16C cannot be armed with AIM-7’s. The only vipers capable of using Sparrows is the F-16A Block 15 ADF a special variant for the air national guard that were then given to Thailand.
@@Spudknocker oh alright, I forgot that we got Blk 50/52 here lol, too much Eagles for me haha sorry bout that
Sparrow vs AMRAAM is all about numerical superiority, mutual support, and bracket/pincer/drag n bag tactics, which allows you to get unobserved entries on bandits beam/stern quadrant. Without those your only option is to force a merge via notching, which is somewhat risky. Obviously this is simplified but its the basics.
@@Spudknocker One thing i learned on GS and 104th servers are that people who spam their missiles are usually n00bs.
Great video ! I’m in my second week in the viper. Man your graphics are incredible and your tracker Ir so damn smooth. When I started DCS in March this year I did your in game settings and nvidia which was like a year or 2 ago. I notice your have a 2080 ti now so my question, are they still the same from that video? If not could you do an update on your settings? I have the 2080 super. I think now you and wags have the best graphic.... so beautiful and smooth. Thx for an incredible tutorial bvr video... the best one yet.
I’m glad you liked the video! And yes the take my breath away graphics video is still the same settings that I have in DCS today!
Nice ! Thx for everything and have a super weekend 👍🏻
Great video! You said the missile is no longer tracking in 13:25? It means we can spot BVR missile in DCS? I watched on my iPad. THX!
“We’re going to break this down into small easy to digest blocks”
Immediately starts pushing a bunch of buttons I have no clue aboht
2:43 the what on the f18 allow it to perform better at higher altitude ?
Hey Spud! Thank you and Kortana for this video it really helped! and I just wanted to let you know 6:05 if you make a 360 degree turn you're still heading in the same direction lol
Good tutorial. I noticed you left the F-15 Eagle out of the discussion about Radar effectiveness? I have a couple of questions: Where is the indication of when the AMRAM will turn it's radar on? On the F/A-18 there is a loft mode. You however state that missile will know that it is going to have to go into this mode based on what it is being told by the A/C. I don't understand why one fighter is different than the other with regards to the employment of the missile? You also used the term relative motion of the incoming missile...so in other words if the missile has none you are still in danger? When you do have relative motion and the missile is drawing behind the plane you are safe or likely safe? Thanks again - my son has gotten me into DCS world and I have got the A-10IIC and F/A-18 familiarized and wanted to start the F-16.
Hey Spud, great video but why don't you beam way earlier to put some lateral separation between you instead of going head-on? Intercept geometry.
how do you pick someone up as a fighter sized target? i just cant seem to get it done in the gs server
Ah, I see you did decide to teach me your ways, papi!
I did haha this video is just for you lol
Spudknocker my BVR and my ACM in PvP is pretty atrocious. I’m really trying to work on not getting cooked every time I leave the ground.
Spud are those incoming missiles spotted by dot only labels or reflections off the sun? I have trouble seeing enemy missiles any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
What maneuver or technique made you win that engagement? Did she make a mistake perhaps or was it down to the plane?
hey i like your videos iam just a newbi lerning the f16 after 50 hours of f15, when you say soft lock means tsm up buton? how can you comfirm that the target is lock? the f15 had change icon so we could certain that was lock but in f16 i cant see any change
How do you know you've dumped the missile when the radar launch is still screaming at you after defensive maneuvers and when to turn into the offensive? And also how come some targets you can't get a lock even at 40nm
Why is the airspeed at mach 1 satin you're at 300 something kn? What am I missing here?
ooo please teach me the ways my friend
Hey, I'm new and completley in over my head. How do you know when to launch, since you are way outside the range recommended on the DLZ, what range do you recommend?
Follow up question, how do you see she is nose on in the RWR?
how do you remember the direction of the enemy？After several turns to defend，i always lost track of the enemy then get killed
Can you do a comparison between the AIM-120C and the SD-10 after the latest patches?
Awesome video as always, really educational.
Ash Bukhari I can definitely look into that!
@@Spudknocker thanks a ton, brother!
sometimes my radar doesn't work like straight up it doesn't detect any targets or until they are very close but sometimes it works normally I always do the same thing is it just random?
is kortana yer burd?
if so, must be a wee catch, playing DCS with ye!
ah well, thanks for the vidya brother
Hi why do u use tws instead of rws? This confuses me. Thanks
how did u lock target?
what do you mean when you say "theres relative motion" on the missiles? 17:14
That means it's is moving in relation to your canopy. In other words, it's no longer heading for an intercept point.
If you think of two ships in the ocean, both making speed (doesn't matter how much, or if they are the same). If the bearing from one ship to the other is constant, the ships will collide with each other. If the bearing changes however, the ships will not collide. Defeating a missile is the same thing, but in 3D. If the bearing changes, the relative position does (they mean the same thing).
Hope that clears it up for you :)
Do DCS AMRAAMs actually loft now?
what are the keybinds? bcs i dont even know how to lock
Good explanations my dear ... thanks for the video! but i would like to ask you a few questions, considering that you made an explanatory video without actually being in a real multiplayer combat: is it normal to lose sight of the target on the radar numerous times? it is irritating to navigate miles and miles trying to regain the target "in bugged" while many times an F-18 with a better radar can guarantee much better target locking, and consequently, better chances of firing at the right times ... I see you being able to lock your target in a 120 mile configuration on TWS while most of the time, considering ALL the correct procedures, I can't lock the target around 40 ~ 50 miles where we would have a better range with the A120C ... I'm playing from Brazil on servers with 20 ~ 30 players keeping 180ping ... so could my ping be making it difficult to lock the target on the radar? or am I missing something in some procedure? can you clarify this better? Please, someone help me...
@ 6:05 what kinda boomerang missiles are you guys firing that you gotta hit a 360° turn? Lol
So I know the AIM-120 is a Fire and Forget missile. I always thought, you fire the missile and can break off to not shorten the distance to your enemy. (Hope I made myself clear.) But I see you guys almost always use your own radar to illuminate your targets before the missile goes active. So for radars: I assume the one in the F-16's nose is better than the one of the AIM-120? Sound pretty dangerous fighting like you use Sparrow rockets, right? And in regards to the F-16's radar: Is it really so bad? I never thought about that. Yea, the Hornet is more modern than the Viper, but doesn't it get its radar updated? Or isn't that possible because of the airframe/form of the plane or such things? Or does that have to do with the High/Low theme of the Air Force? So F-15 better than F-16 even if F-16 is more modern? Thanks for taking the time to read this. Hope one can help an enthusiastic Fan. And great video. Hope you get Cortana a cold dring of her choice for letting herself getting blown up in order for you to teach us BVR. :)
Hey mate, I am only new to DCS but I believe the reason people fire and stay nose hot with radar lock is because it prevents the missile from emitting a signal that can be picked up by the enemy's RWR. If you stay locked, I believe they only get that signal when the missile goes pitbull
@@gnittegdellort it depends on the mode your radar is in as to whether the target will get a missile launch RWR warning before the missile goes pitbull. If you hard lock (STT or ACM modes) the target will get an RWR warning as soon as the AMRAAM comes off the rails, but in TWS or SAM modes you only soft lock so the RWR will only go off once the missile goes pitbull (using it’s own radar to hard lock). The AMRAAM will always go pitbull when the target is within range so the target will get an RWR warning when this happens, irrelevant of what you do beforehand,
In an ideal world you want to maintain soft lock until the missile goes pitbull then break away. This is because the AMRAAM can’t track the target until pitbull so needs guidance from it’s launch platform until this point to give the maximum probability of a kill. If you drop the lock before pitbull then the AMRAAM should fly to the targets anticipated intercept path and try to reacquire it when it goes pitbull. However it’s important to remember that if this happens the missile won’t necessarily reacquire lock on the intended target as, when unguided, it’s indiscriminate and will lock onto the nearest thing flying around the intercept point (including friendlies). Allowing the AMRAAM to fly without guidance also means that if the target makes any course corrections the chances are the missile will miss.
Quick question: If I press the dogfight or msl override switch, I cant go back to AG mode even by pressing the button. Also sel. Jett. Doesnt work anymore. How can I get out of this? If I press the AA mode button on the UFC everything works just fine....
Thx guys
I had the same Problem, You must set a switch to "neutral" the override or use the MSL Override/neutral command, but then u have to press the button as long as u want to use the override, when u stop pressing it it will end the override
but how do you know that you should reengage without F10-11?
f16 radar picks up fighters before the f18. test it for yourself. may be a more modern thing, i dunno.
I suck at a/a. I never see the missile, I never see the bad guy unless the have con trails.
Nice video! I see one crucial tactical mistake being made here. By not doing preventive defensive cranking during pre-launch (from about 60 NM) you are setting yourself up to be hit by a long-range missile while head-on supersonic at a very high altitude. You should be cranking long before you take your first shot - it's a simple way to defeat the enemy's first long-range shot, even if it was shot way before your first shot. This, of course, is assuming no other factors are at play - for example doing escort or protecting a certain airspace aggressively. Only when you need to control/distract the enemy would you want to go head-on within 60 NM at high altitude.
Can you expound on what you mean by cranking? Their are levels to this DCS game I'm just beginning
wait, how come they fired from so far away from eachother? 55-60 miles? Thought that at about 30 to 35k feet the max missile range is about 30-35 miles at mach 1
Probably because it's a hot engagement, which gets the missile closer to it's target even faster
@@banaantjexx164 Even so, the DLZ in the HUD shows him as being way outside of Rmax when he launches the first missile, and still somewhat outside of Rmax when he launches the second. The FCR knows the closure rate, so that should already be calculated into the range scale, unless I'm misunderstanding something.
@@SonesBen Don't know if it's modeled like that in the game. Could also be to the enemy to start on doing evasive maneuvers by triggering the lock and fire alert, if not for that...
First couple of minutes I was wondering why he is taking to Microsoft assistant
Was the finishing missile a fox-2?
So I think Spud hit me with his last AMRAAM, but we were well well within the range of the AIM-9M at the end. I had already expended my fox-3s, so I had to try to force the merge (and I did have an AIM-9 in the air by the time Spud got me).
@@KortanaDCS It was a great dog fight regardless 👍
@Kortana i think your aim 9 hit him hence why the video was cut short immediately after he splashed you. Well done
This type of tutorial is great, however, it's still too far away from my level in DCS. I have only had it for a week. When you say things like "moving the HUD Management switch right to bring up the Air to Air mode..." you lost me already. What HUD Management Switch? Is it in the cockpit or do I have to bind it to my stick? Or is it a keyboard only thing? I need a video that steps it down to THAT level of detail. You're tutorials are brilliant, and I refer to them often, but I need the "F-16C Viper For Dummies" manual. Cap over on Grim Reapers is the same. Brilliant with DCS, but I don't need brilliant. I need basic. If you have a video that's at this level, I will buy all of your merch and more for Christmas! I am a newborn colt on shaky legs. I just need to walk...
how to soft lock :) newbie here
I don't think the sound barrier is modeled in DCS
Interesting that you cut the video immediately after the splash and starting a new one right after to close up the vid.
The very real points of the vid were nice
Also, nice flying Cortana. Sound strategy going into that one.
See, I can use this stuff for singleplayer but as soon as its pvp I just get smacked and no matter how much i train, i just cant seem to get better at BVR pvp. People just seem like they can fire their missiles wayy before i can, even if we have the same missile
Use Tacview if you can - I expect you'll find that they're cranking immediately upon firing, and respecting MAR. For example, at 20k ft. in an F/A-18 vs a MiG-29, you'd start to climb as you approach ~35nm, fire a fox-3 (while the MiG still can't do anything to you!) out at ~30nm, immediately crank to 60-65 degrees, holding Mach ~0.8 (remember to dip your wing in towards him as you reach 65 degrees or so, so that you keep him right on the edge of your radar scope as you close in!), turn in another 20 degrees or so towards the Hostile at ~15nm, fire a second fox-3, and go back to your crank - hold your crank until EITHER your 2nd fox-3 goes pitbull OR you're about to reach 8nm (which is approximately your MAR), whichever happens first, then put (and keep) the Hostile on your 6, dive, and burn away. Remember, ~0.8M. Hold it. Don't bleed off energy below that speed in this circumstance.
Executed correctly, you should be essentially invulnerable. You will not be guaranteed the kill, but it should be a very high probability, particularly on the 2nd missile. The first missile is to force the Hostile to go defensive, or at least to limit their options - if they don't, they get a free warhead delivered straight to their forehead.
The above is what's called a "timeline", specifically a "skate" engagement profile, and every possible matchup has one. They depend on the capabilities aircraft and particularly of the missiles involved. You won't always (or even usually) have a timeline that will make you "essentially inuvlnerable", but learning them is how you consistently win BVR fights.
If you want to learn more about this topic, start looking into BVR timelines, "skate", and "banzai". Note that a banzai engagement profile is (and should be) quite uncommon, because frankly, you don't want to go in to the merge if you can avoid it!
One last protip: if you ever find yourself "off timeline", just turn around and gtfo. The #1 reason people die in DCS is because they get greedy and don't disengage when they should. Remember, you can always re-engage, so there's no reason to force an engagement once your timeline is thrown off. Turn around and set up again. As a "defender", your entire goal in BVR is to throw the other guy off his timeline; that's your win condition. Don't give them their win condition for free :)
You literally lost me about 3 seconds in when you paused the simulation and started throwin abbreviations :P I have no idea how to do any of that as I am brand new to DCS, and I thought I'd have luck watching this video with the title stating "step by step" - unfortunately that wasn't the case :*(
30nm? looked like 104?
Viper not falcon
11:45 :
F-16V sells for about 64 million per jet.
AIM 120C sells for 300k to 400k per missile.
yes each missile is like launching an upper end lamborghini into thin air but at that math you would have to launch at least 160 AMRAAMs PER KILL for the economics to even out.
let those angels fly
and for those that cant do brain stuff... IK that he is engaging a Hornet. that valuation is around 67 million per jet.... so shoot moar.
and an SU 35 costs around 85 million... but i digress...
I find the f-18c superior than the F-16C block 50. TWS mode is way superior and locking on in the middle of the engagement is easier with lower work load for the pilot. It's a shame we couldn't get a more advance version of the radar.
right but f16 i s far superior in close combat than the f18
@@javieragustinbraga375 Nope, with the F-18C you can pull almost unlimited AOA something that with the F-16 is not possible. Close combat the F-18C dogfights better and maybe out performed by the F-16 in terms of acceleration.
@@peterp4037 mmmm nobody said that, in fact the f16 in test beat almost every american fighter in 1 vs 1 , including the f22 raptor, the f16 pull more g in close turns that f18 and is faster. In fact the f-35 lose 9 of 10 battles against the f16.
@@peterp4037 in fact the tow planes are almost similar en every aspect, very siilar planes in the bottom.
A message for the audience here. If you're the type of person that likes teaching someone how to play DCS, send me a message. I'd like to have some one on one sessions and communicate with Discord. Thanks.
Exactly what happened to Indian Air Force SU-30 and MiG 21 Bison. Abhinonedone beychara
Give it a rest, dude. Kafi ho gaya hai.
Tutorial: “and we will soft lock her here in a Twiz and set as primary target for amraams.”
Reality: Doesn’t actually show or tell how to do either
You say that you fired 2 initially because your hope is that the first will bleed her energy to the point where the second one hits - but where’s the logic in that?
She isn’t going to make herself slow to defend an AMRAAM, she ought to be diving at extremely high speed and pulling hard cranks, there is no bleeding of target energy, the target is only bleeding the missile’s energy.
It’s fair to assume the first missile won’t hit the mark in any BVR engagement, but firing the second so soon after under the same conditions just seems like a waste, her defensive manoeuvres for the first will probably just defeat the second as well - look how effortlessly you defeated hers, and how much speed you were carrying.
Your practical application in the defensive seems sound but your theory on the offensive conflicts with what else I’ve read.
Four commercial breaks.. C'mon, man, is that really necessary?
Male in F-16 vs. Female in F-18..... Yeah pretty much what you'd think would happen.
hey now be nice
Haha, I was just in an F-18 for the video. I'm usually in an F-14, a mirage, or the spitfire 😅.
Lydia Litvyak 1 August 1943 (aged 21).
real f16 pilots look at their f10 map and see all the enemies, and all countries have awacses? if its a decent sim there wouldn't be a map showing u enemy planes. therefore its not a sim just another arcade game.
He used the map as an example to show you what was going on. Using the map in an actual mission generally doesn’t work unless the Intel is there. You don’t have to have awacs either. Just gives you an idea of an equal ish BVR engagement. Have a nice day 👍
Yep, decent sim = no training and learning tools, and mission making is impossible because you can't debug any positions and states. Those F-key views are arcade rubbish too.
Chill there big boi.... on most servers this isnt an option. Hes clearly using it to help aid his TUTORIAL... go fly your real jet there johnny badass and let us simps play our "arcade" game
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this is insane logic, you're probably trolling, but this is clearly a very artificial scenario for practice, you know, the sort of things people actually do in real life with totally simulated encounters that aren't always perfectly realistic but let you practice specific things in a repeatable way? you can set up your own missions in as realistic a way you want, or play any number of detailed and realistic missions, or arcadey and more 'fun' ones too!