DCS F-16C Viper One on One Dogfight Training!
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2022
- Hey guys, this video is a recording of a 1 on 1 Training Session I did with one of my Patrons. In the Lesson we went over the basics of BFM or Basic Fighter Maneuvers in the DCS F-16C Viper within the confines of DCS World. Specifically I like to go over all of the little gotchas that new DCS Pilots struggle with in a fly by wire aircraft like the F-16C!
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Spud, I never thought I'd see myself in one of your videos! Great training session. Exactly what I was looking for. Keep up the great work and I look forward to our next 1 on 1!
Glad you enjoyed it man!
Thanks for the vid, I learnt a lot!
Trying to write this stuff down for others.
LEAD, PURE & LAG PURSUIT
Lead pursuit - nose ahead of the target
Pros
Highest closure even with inferior speed
Cons
-danger of collision
-may lose sight if falls beneath the nose
-as a lead pursuit turn increase in rate and reduces in radius it may exceed the attacker’s capabilities
Pure pursuit - nose on the target
Pros
-also provides closure on the defender
-does not cause AOT Angle off Targets Tail to increase as rapidly as Lead pursuit
-provides the minimum frontal area to the target aircraft, increasing the defenders visual problems
Cons
-eventually increases in rate of turn and reduction in radius may exceed the attackers capabilities.
Lag pursuit - nose behind the target
Pros
-good for slowing or stopping closure
-good for relaxing g load increasing energy and accelerating
-good for establishing position in the rear hemisphere against a slower moving target
-good for establishing a position, where once the attacker has approached they can initiative a harder turn towards the target and establish a stable position behind the bogey and outside his turn to see his underside in what is termed a “cold-side” lag
-difficult for the defender to maintain sight, especially if the attacker is cold side or ar the defenders six
Cons
-the attacker is predictable and thus vulnerable to a second fighter if performing a prolonged lag pursuit
-sustained lag pursuit is very taxing, if the attackers higher speed requires them to hold a higher g load
Defense
-defense against hot side lag pursuit is to tighten the turn, including using gravity assist nose low.
-defense against cold side lag pursuit is turn reversal. This can be more effective when performed nose high, causing a reduction in defenders forward velocity and increasing closure.
-a nose high turn reversal can be effective against missile only fighters, as it may bring the attacker quickly past min missile launch range
a nose high reversal against a gun equipped fighter will nearly always result in a snapshot opportunity for the attacker.
Thanks again for a great vid. I’ve got about 60 hours on DCS mainly in the F86 and F14.
I'd call this a master class for sure. While I might never fly DCS myself, I've still learned a tonne from this insightful video. Makes it a lot easier to follow what the pros are doing, when I watch DCS videos. Or just to have a better understanding of dogfight principles in general. Much appreciated and entertaining as well.
There are far more academic resources you can find on dogfighting down to the smallest aerodynamic details. But this was enough to get the student up and running to learn on his own there there.
@@Spudknocker Yeah I had to learn all this stuff growing with sims and flight games and studding milltary and you sound like a fantastic instrucror! Which if you don't mind me asking what is your adavage time to fun in DCS you seen among your students? For me with my expernce it was under 3 hours from install to enjorying the sim.
Outstanding! I learned a lot, more videos like this!
Glad you liked it!
YES!!!! the video I needed
Awesome vid man very informative and friendly teaching. Thinking of getting into dcs soon with the f16c and might end up getting a lesson from you would be awesome to learn!
Go for it!
Love this vid. I went to the RAAF (Australia) at 15 to enlist, passed the aptitude and fitness tests with flying colours, was just about to become a fighter pilot, then found out I was "colourblind". So, naturally, I'm very keen to get into DCS. I have a Saitek X52 HOTAS and today I picked up my TrackIR. Keen to fly the F-16, I got the 2 week trial. The training modules are good, but some of the things they tell you to look at on the HUD, MFD's etc are really not clear for a rookie, hence I stumbled upon this vid. Technically didn't answer the things I was looking for, but I ended up watching til the end cause it was still some really amazing education on actual BFM and dogfighting. Keep up the great work!
Just to make a suggestion - i know it's unfashioned but in the module there's a directory "docs" which includes the F16 manual to read - it will explain everything (it's long and complicated but well... welcome to DCS)
@@tomriley5790 thanks mate! I have been using those (well, I've actually been using Chuck's guides as they're fantastic). Very helpful, particularly with instrumentation!
One thing I am finding tricky is improving BFM / ACM. Any tips on how to setup single player for that? I've created a custom mission with a single fighter 10nm away from my position which seems to work okay but open to any pro tips!
Excellent training session thankyou :)
The ARI provides coordinated rudder commands and reduces sideslip during rolling maneuvers. Additional pilot rudder commands do not improve roll performance but do increase departure susceptibility.
this sounds like a HealthyGamerGG Video with Doctor K, So trippy
Brilliant!!!
The best explanation I got of pure pursuit is Nose to tail, lead pursuit nose to nose, or trying to cut off your opponent. Another explanation was thinking of when you are in a car and going fast the car wants to slide out of the turn. So you have to control that speed to maintain the control you require so you don't slide.
@Spudknocker...You are an amazing teacher... you teach with such calmness in your voice and call out mistakes without arrogance. I may soon be donating just for the opportunity learn from you.
Suggestion - turn on the controls display (sorry not sure what it's called) but the red thing that shows where the rudder pedals etc. are.
I guess this would be "one way to do it" but don't know if I'd do a negative 4.1 G BUNTING maneuver in the viper!
You’re not a real pilot till you’ve flown an outside loop! Haha
;^)
very helpful
There's something I missed here, how does the old school approach changes the language when the language is something that builds upon time.
One thing people forget when you're in a vertical fight your inverted turn at the top gets 1g extra for free by definition...
It's extremely challenging to do in game, especially non-VR via a 2D screen. Curious where your trainee is in terms of experiences, as it looks you were doing a modified "tail chase" exercise initially and if you do off-set stuff, like a butterfly set Mover and Gonky demonstrated earlier this year. All the F-16 pilots probably noted your excess high negative-G move there...;P. It's all good fun.
Someone who has zero DCS or aviation experience. Trying to get someone do to a perfect butterfly start on their first multiplayer session doesn’t go well.
@@Spudknocker absolutely, baby steps.
Does anyone know of a video that describes each mission type? In the editor there's a dropdown box with mission names like CAS, CAP, INTERCEPT, RECONASANCE, SHIP STRIKE, etc. Because changing the mission type changes a lot of other things like what loadout is available, what aircraft are available and how the AI will treat the bad guys. It's just confusing AF at first. Any help would be appreciated.
Your best bet is google. Air missions are publicly disclosed, atleast up to understanding what it generally means
Here's some training material to explain things to trainees:
czcams.com/video/jAKGu2Ki0Wc/video.html
Some of the jargon and principles there might be of use, like comparing the validity of Pugachev to modifications.
2nd fight, Spud's maneuver... isn't that known as the "Hammerhead"?
No a hammerhead can’t really be accomplished in a jet. A true hammerhead is really only something a prop plane can do
How do you donate.... I've been subscribed for a while just don't know who to send ya money lol
There’s a link to my patreon in the description of this video!
Start watch from 2:10 =) Save your time)
I have a lot of trouble finding targets visually in the air with labels turned off. I usually leave the red/blue mark labels on without the text to aid me but I'm still struggling. Does playing from a 17 inch laptop screen give a massive disadvantage or does it just take practice?
Hey man, you probably need a bigger screen and head tracking like TrackIR. It also just takes practice and a lot of anticipation of where an aircraft is going to be based off of your sensors, your intuition and training.
Biggest thing is don’t look for a jet, focus on a piece of sky, a cloud, or a spot on the ground and look for movement. When you see movement lock your eyes onto it and that’s your jet you’re looking for
@@Spudknocker Thanks Spud, very helpful! I'm using a head tracker, but anticipation sounds like the key. I suppose better situational awareness will come with experience and a ton of practice.
@@bazsawow 17 inch display is TINY.
Still doing these 1 on 1 trainings?
Do you trian people outside US?
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Here's something I don't understand, why don't teach basic flying skills first. Even Growling Sidewinder made the same mistake on his F14 vs F15 video that was critiqued by a flying trainee as a seemingly easy to recover from stall maneuver, or something to avoid. I get the idea that DCS players are learning to fly through dogfighting rather than the other way around.
Wait!! Is it me or does the wings on the Flight model bend now too?
czcams.com/video/6CQy_qteGGY/video.html
nope, not you. Looks awesome, eh
Not a sentence you hear often in a positive context. Buuuuuut.
Wanna fight some time?