DCS: F-16C Viper Air to Air Radar Tutorial/Comprehensive Explanation.
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This video is a little something to help anyone struggling with the Radar of the F-16 Viper. In this video we go over Bars Azimuths Range and SAM mode and we tie all the concepts together at the end. Please note that I don't claim to know it all, I'm simply sharing what I do know in hopes that it helps someone out there. I hope you enjoy the video Thanks so much for the support guys. - Hry
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So just an FYI, we are only covering material that is currently available in the Early Access F-16 Viper, as more features are implemented we will discuss those as well. I hope you guys enjoy and find this video helpful. As always guys, I don't claim to know it all, I'm simply sharing what I know in hopes that it will help people out there struggling to understand the Radar in the F-16 Viper and give a more in depth understanding of what you are looking at when you are looking at the radar screen. Thank you all for your on going support. couldnt do it without you. Special thanks to Max Waldorf for his help in the creation of this video.
Isnt it the fighting falcon and not viper or am I crazy?
Mr AnonyMoose lol ya viper is just a nickname
Omg, the AGM-62 Walleye has been released 😲
@@GrowlingSidewinder - Is there a JHMCS mod you could use with VR?
These detailed tutorials are way easier to follow for retards like me who get lost reading Chucks Guides.
last time I've seen APG68 explained at this level of detail was in Falcon4 900-page manual...
3years on and hands down still the best explanation compared to what's available on youtube. I wish there were more tutorials on F16
Awesome tutorial! One thing that seems to confuse a lot of players unfamiliar with radar is that the dish elevation is gimballed to the horizon, not your jets AOA. So if you are cruising at angels 20 and you get an AWACS call for a bandit at angles 10, pointing the nose of your jet down will not cause the radar to scan lower. You must move the dish to physically scan the lower altitude. I think radar elevation control is something a lot of players don't bother with because it seems too complicated so they think "I'll just point my jet at the target instead". It doesn't work that way for elevation.
Robert Curtis ur absolutely correct that is a common misconception among new guys, hopefully from this video they now have a better understanding of the radar elevation antenna and can make better use of the scan volume functions of the bars
So pointing the nose down, the Antenna will look to the horizon until its gimbal limits are reached?
@@vadderkraft8563 my understanding is that it's like a chicken. You move it around, twist it, turn it and it's head is always still. Like a gimballed camera that will always steady the camera so it does not move and mess up the shot. If your radar is scanning 10 degrees nose up and your are flying level your radar is scanning 10 degrees above the horizon level. If you point the nose 10 degrees down it is now scanning the horizon not where your nose is pointed because the radar was offset to 10 degrees up. Atleast this is my understanding of it, hopefully if im wrong someone will correct me.
True, I have the elevation binded to my hotas, that's really a must have for BVR.
thank you
Hey GS, I'm one of your early subs. Now I remember what made/makes me love this channel. The way you do your comprehensive tutorials, from the tone that you're speaking, to the amount of detailed explanations, it's just amazing! Wish you all the best going forward! :)
I remember you brother, thank you for your support from the start. couldnt have done this without guys like you supporting me. glad you liked the video man.
@@GrowlingSidewinder great
Is it strange to find this so fascinating even though i dont play?
I kinda treat it like a documentary but better... Now i can pretend to push all the wrong buttons next time im in the F16 on AceCombat 7 :)
Growling - If you get a coffee break today dude check out my little F22Showcase, I wouldn't have bought AC7 if i didn't find the channel. So you helped me grow as a channel, content wise not numbers lol.
Hope you enjoy my attempt - czcams.com/video/OzZySnKLUk0/video.html
Finally, someone who is showing and teaching... And not flying through it so fast that you can't learn it... Thank you sir.
Man you have no idea how your radar tutorials helped me. Others i find are very complex, but yours is straight to the point and the drawings help a ton. I feel like this makes me able to use the radar confortably and at the same time have some basic knowledge of how radars in general work theoretically, which is more than enough for having fun in DCS and not totally suck.
I had a basic understanding of how radars worked but this video really helped me to understand how to use it in a more "in depth" way (especially to scan the portion of the sky I want with bars and azimuths), can't wait to get to my rig to put that new knowledge to test!
Many thanks dude, keep up the good work, your channel is great! (And thoses T-shirt at wild weasel are rad too, especially the HUDs)
Thank you!! I finally got into DCS two weeks ago. Been learning the F-16. This tutorial cleared up a lot for me. Simple, and to the point. Thank you !
Some thing tells me you are going to have dogfight with f-18 soon and until that time I can't sleep ,
maaaaaybe we will see lol
Man, wish you had more F-16 tutorials; this is miles better than anything else out there.
This is a great video and Its jogging my memory on a lot of the things I remember you explaining from the the F/A-18 Radar tutorial. I think what makes the Radar tricky is that it is designed to show information from a 3D area and convert it onto a 2D screen for the pilot.
Keep up the great work man, I really appreciate your commitment to the community by making these videos. There are many others that have never been able to make videos explaining all the relevant information as you do!
Who else was watching on another device and doing it pratically.Thank you GS.Also love the merch.
I,M& M my pleasure buddy glad you found it helpful
You're a good teacher, man. I watched GR and Spudknocker videos on this exact content (and I really appreciate their awesome work too!).....but my retention when I get back in the aircraft is way higher after your videos. I found this to be the case on the SU-27 also.
Hey Growling Sidewinder great and very informative video mate, me and many others through out the DCS community appreciate the time efforts you put into putting these videos out.
Cheers over and out
Ted077 thanks brother it's my pleasure I'm glad you guys find it helpful just want to simplify this stuff for people and get more people into the DCS skies 👍 thanks for your support man means a lot to me.
Checking some new comments to see if this is outdated or anything and noticed you still respond to people's questions even now. Shows you really care about your viewers. I appreciate your videos and efforts, cheers GS.
ya brother, I try to respond whenever I can, obvs I can't get them all but I try.
@@GrowlingSidewinder You do a cracking job mate, keep up the banger videos! Love from the UK
Hey thanks for this video I have everything else in DCS but when it came to learning about how to use and understand the radar it seemed like a impossible task, but this video has been a major help thanks for taking the time to do this...
19:55 I love your thoroughness, m’kay
mmkaaaay
It is always a good thing to sit down after work and watch one of your videos
means a lot to me that you take ur relaxation time to watch my videos man, I appreciate it very much.
Wow Nice to see BMS / DCS community come together for once. Excellent work.
hopefully much more of that in the future brother
@@GrowlingSidewinder Amen mi amigo.
Yup! Surprise! 😁
@@MaxWaldorf LoL You got some splainin to do. ;)
@@captlazerhawk since my BMS profile says I reached Gen level, I don't think I need to report to a simple Captain 😂
You are awesome at this. This can encourage and ease the learning curve for new comers. Thank you. The more people on the skies the better.
thats the goal brother, its my pleasure and I 100% agree the more people we can get into the sky the better.
This explanation and the graphics were simply top notch!!!
thank you glad you enjoyed
Just wanna say, its a plessure to listnen and learn by your videos. Really good and easy explained! Keep up the good work
Hi @Growling Sidewinder, I always watch your BVR/DF videos and am fond with them, always a lot of fun and good time (and I also learned so much from them).
But I didn't know you made instructional videos... and, MAN, you're f***ing good at doing them, too!!!
This is one of the best explanation of a modern radar functionalities and usage I have ever seen since I am interested in military aviation, and I swear it's a long time.
Extremely clear and precise, nothing missing (maybe, just for completeness' sake, you could have mentioned PRF and its relation with target aspect even if it's not in this early access, it's an important part of the puzzle) and also your voice tone and pace were simply perfect... easy to understand even for non native English speaking people.
I really hope you'll make some more high quality instructional videos like this one in the future, they really deserve the time required for viewing.
And I will add them all to my playlists of selected tutorials, they simply can't miss.
Thanks a lot and keep up your fantastic work!!!
Very detailed and thorough explanation of F-16 radar operations (for what we have now). You made it very easy to understand. Well done sir and thank you.
Looking forward to updates to this, once new features are added to the f-16 radar.
my pleasure glad you liked it. and yes more updates to come.
Thanks for this. Coming from the FC3 F15 there were a few gaps in my knowledge around how to make the F16 radar do what I wanted and what some of the states looked like and how to get in/out of them. This clear up everything you need to start locking bandits and making some hits.
Man, your explanations are so good that even I learn, haha! You're THE GUY! Amazing video, explanation, schematics and patience.
Hope you're doing very well brother!
thanks buddy glad you found it helpful. I'm doing great man, hope you're also well, thanks for all ur support from the start buddy. u are the man
Thank you so much for your work, some times on the video we can feel you, not annoyed but maybe tired, but hey, this is so kind of you to give advices and learnings freely. I hope all of your friends are nice ok with you :-)
Great Video as always; for me your tuts are way the best because most in depth! Ty very much, and keep up the great work!
Thanks for the making the effort to put this together. Much appreciated.
my pleasure, glad you enjoyed man
Quick comment on the AIM-120 launched in Sam mode. The missile will not go mad dog, it will try to continue tracking the last target coordinates it recieved from the F-16 radar. But if you are firing while friendlies in furball (not recommended unless you're saving his butt), make sure you go STT and wait for pitbull...
how do you know its gone Pitbull and you can turn away?
Under the speed tape, HUD can show "A" (time to HPRF), "M" (time to MPRF), "T" (time to intercept) or "L" (time to termination; basically
missile time of flight remaining).
Pitbull is the moment when missile switches to MPRF so from A to M...
@@MaxWaldorf "Waldorf", that a german name? Are you german? :)
@@Dan20q Nice try but no :)
Best explanation I have seen. I finally got the radar. Thx much!
More tutorial please..
You are good to be a teacher.. your tone, explanation, everythings are very clear to understand.. thank you
Big THANK OUT back to you GS, awesome vid as usual
big thank OUT to you too buddy
I'm a new subscriber here who has considerably no knowledge of how stuff works. I've been binge watching all the videos and in fact loving them. As far as this video is concerned, you gave out a detailed explanation that made sense even to a newbie like me. Can't wait for the action to begin once they update the F-16 with complete set of features it has. Have a good day. 😁 Love from India.
Akshay Sharma thank u for the kind feedback brother glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. Much love from Canada
Very informative yet understandable. Nice job GS!
thanks brother.
Thanks so much for posting this, best I've seen and has helped me a ton!
I spent 4 hours today trying to lern the game and I actually know what your talking about now :P
its got a large learning curve man but its worth it
Brilliant work Sir.Very well done. No other game ever makes you study like this lol.
Best explanation I have seen of the F-16 radar
Delivering the goods once again! Thank you for the GREAT videos
George Goosen my pleasure brother thanks for watching
Bloody hell man! Incredible tutorial man! Way to explain things! Thank you!
my pleasure brother glad you found it helpful.
Just started flying the F16 and this was simply excellent many thanks GS.
glad to be of service
Dude thank you soooo much for this tutorial. Extremely helpful.
Yo thanks for the detailed explication on how things work , I don't play the game but it's good to see the sophistication that the has to offer.
Omkar M.K honestly you could get a PhD in DCS this thing is so complicated lol
I'm a bit late to the party, but brother this was an excellent tutorial, really helped a lot. I know a ton must have changed between now and when this video was released but it's still excellent for the fundamentals.
thank you man glad people are finding it useful.
I'm not into DCS at all but damn man these are good videos..very informative and a lot of time entertaining..
That's one hell of a documentary ! Good job, please also make videos about TWS, RWS in detail.
as we get more features brother I will make more videos for them.
Very good tutorial 👍
And thank you for giving such a good explanation...
xTom you're welcome glad you enjoyed it.
You are an amazing DCS teacher man :) now you make my mind clear and I know how to use my radar and have a good understanding of the numbers on my LMFD, thanks again sub,like, and share for sure :)
Much appreciated brother glad you found it useful
great tutorial ! loved it ! really useful !
Great job! I am now combat ready. I am ready to take on anybody. (I might not win, but I'm pretty good.) Thanks for the video.
my pleasure glad you found it helpful man
Very helpful, thank you GS!
Anderson Krueger you're welcome man
Great video! Where were you and CZcams back in the day of Falcon 4.0!?
wish I knew it existed man, I had been looking for a good flight sim for a while
Cool! Thanks GS and Waldorf :)
Great explanatory video! Only, at the end when you're explaining how to go from TMS to SAM mode and unlocking a target to prevent the MRM from going MadDog, I can't follow your inputs, so I'm kinda lost there...
Excellent tutorial!
Outstanding presentation.
Cristal clear explanations, and furthermore you speak slowly, appreciate because english is not my native language! Thank you very much
Cheers
Many thnx..... this was a beautifull and understanding video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
All your videos look awesome!! Could you share a screenshot where we can see the grafic settings you use in DCS?? I have a pretty similar PC and I would like tweak some things.
Great Vid.. keep up the great work.
thanks man willco
You talk like C.W. Lemoine with just a different voice
Well not totally. I have been watching this and as a fun drinking game took a sip of my beer every time he said M'Kay or Okay. (No offence meant Growling love your videos).
Fantastic Video
Thanks GS for nice video - what is the meaning of the number next to the locked aircraft in SAM and full lock mode?
Thanks for this tutorial! :-)
Macky Mac you're very welcome
Dude awesome! Thanks so much.
Love my wild weasel shirt!
What are they keybinds i need to configure in order to use the radar most efficiently? Because i noticed there are no click able buttons in the f16 for target lock or to turn the radar dish up and down?
Great video learned alot :)
Great explanation.
Great video!
thanks bud. nice tutorial
my pleasure man glad you liked it
Can't wait to see a vs f-18 battle...
22:50 OK, but HOW did you "push it down" exactly? How do you point the radar dish down/up? What is the control binding called?
In the f18
It's called either "radar pitch" or "antenna pitch".
Dunno about the f-16
ANT ELV CW and ANT ELV CCW
Or you have the axis called ANT something ( at the top of the list)
You can use the cursor to bump the range as well, moving it up the screen (or down)
correct.
Awesome tutorial! I'm new to DCS and F16 and I'm loving it! this tutorial is like fresh air to me to understand so much better how radar A2A Works!! Just one question..where to find the radar elevartion on controls? can't find it to bind it.
Hi!
the colors of the landscape are beautiful! what makes it so?
Great tuto thx! Is there a way to attach BE info to the TDC like in many other planes? and if possible, how to assign the BE to coordinates or a WP? thx
Any plans to update tuturial with all the new changes?
can i change the elevation of the antenna only whith slewing the cursor full up or don or does this only change distance which we could easily do by pressing the buttons ! I would prefer this.
wow, I have been looking for this, amazing work!!! I wonder if you have all that written down "summarized" because it's boring plus hard to understand from the A/C manual.....so if you have it, would you please share it with us?, anyway great video and great work!
Does choosing lesser and lesser bar scans limit how likely you are to set off RWRs you'd rather stay off of? Or is radiation so general that anyone forward of you is going to pick you up, even if your bar scans are chosen explicitly to avoid detecting them?
GS, your continue to educate me, brother! With all the current updates to the Viper, is this information still accurate?
Thank you for the information..bro
YEAH TUTORIALS !
perfect for me, thx a lot!
Can you make a video on how does radar lock works?
Like what is the difference between radar lock VS simply have the target on radar?
Moving the cursor around was beautiful and all, but what are the key bindings or dash buttons to do so? You explained how to move the antenna pitch up and down but you always oriented the radar cursor to the middle of the screen as well. So, how to move the cursor left and right? Does it matter if it is centered? Ty GS.
But what are the keybindings for the antenna pitch up and down?? i cant find it anywhere
very good explanation
thank you
great vid. Hope you do the close air combat modes next. + the helmet site . :)
Allan I think they will need to do a few updates to that before I can do a video on it. I might do a mini tutorial on it in a video tho
We now have TWS. Can you update or create a video on TWS in the same fashion you did here?
Thanks
I think I like more the F-15C radar where you manually adjust the elevation and receive faster feedback
Thank out very much. You produce quality videos. Hey is that SAM mode modeled correctly currently?
thank you I'm glad you find it useful, the SAM does appear to have been fixed and as far as I know is working correctly.
maybe I missed it, but how is he moving the horizontal T-bar up and down?
What's the difference between the SA and TWS, except for the ability to lock more than 1 target?
i am handicapped due to a stroke. right side useless. could i get by with 1 hand? Furthermore do you know anything about those helmet displays. whever you look it will show you what is there. sounds like it would cut down the workload. do u know anyone who does that?
dying to play this! but i need some advice before i buy yhe f16 as my first jet.
thanks
Hi there, I think u might still be able to have some fun just means u might have to work a little harder there are sticks like the thrustmaster 16000m that have an axis on the bottom of the stick that u can use as a throttle control and it would be on ur left side. I recommend downloading DCS (it's free) and trying to use the su25 (also a free plane they give u to start) and see if you can make that work and if u enjoy it. Only then would I commit to more serious stuff I'm sorry I don't have more answers on this Im not too sure how difficult it will be to get into this with just 1 hand. But like I said try what's free first and then get into it with more money if u think u can make the experience fun.
@@GrowlingSidewinder hey there, I've been having a blast with DCS. I followed your advice and got the stick you recommend, almost got the rudder pedals. but i think I'm going to wait until I'm ready to get serious about learning my Hornet before I purchase those. I got the fc3 module. also Persian gulf and hornet bundle. I have been enjoying the F15c. I can actually do alright with one hand flying it. The Hornet is a great jet, but a lot more complicated. I will eventually get around to learning how to fly it but I really do love the F15c. I have not done any campaign play. Just been doing pve multiplayer. Such a kick ass game. I love it! I'm thinking about setting up voice attack but unsure of which commands would best suit my needs. I came to your open conflict pvp server but I'm not ready for that just yet. thanks a lot for the advice, Blue Skies!.
Hey very nice Tutorial! What would you recommend for trying to find Bandits (without AWACS) in Mid to Close Range at unknown Angels with a fast orbit? A6 B1?
B2 probably. maybe B4 to find get their angles and then come to B2 to track.
Thanks for this. Are there not presets or some kind of AI to make this more manageable? How does the Aviator manage the radar while he has a bandit on his 6
Okay, so, I have a question. I only have one HAT switch on my HOTAS. I fly the viper. Should I bind my TMS to my HAT switch, or is there something more important that should take the switch?