DCS F-16C Speeds to fly: T/O, Climb, Cruise, Corner, TAS vs. CAS

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  • čas přidán 25. 05. 2022
  • Practical advice on speeds to fly in the DCS F-16C
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Komentáře • 75

  • @pyxl8
    @pyxl8 Před 2 lety +46

    more of this type of content please. I can look in the manual to find out what all the buttons and switches do but what I want to learn is how to actually fly.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 2 lety +10

      Noted, thanks!

    • @einarabelc5
      @einarabelc5 Před rokem

      The manual sucks, it would be 5000 pages if it actually taught anyting.

  • @jeromegraves2826
    @jeromegraves2826 Před 2 lety +39

    The AoA and Bore Cross to regain speed visual cue references are gold!

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks, I’m glad you found it helpful.

  • @Corsair8X
    @Corsair8X Před 2 lety +5

    Not sure where you suddenly came from but that level of information for sure gets a subscriber.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for subscribing! I've been around DCS at least 7 years, just finally decided to sit down and put a little effort into CZcams.

  • @ernestwinslow7316
    @ernestwinslow7316 Před 2 lety +6

    Putting the flight marker on the boresight to get massive speed back during maneuver is a huge take away for from this video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @therocinante3443
    @therocinante3443 Před 2 lety +2

    Man I wish I had this video a long time ago. I mostly figured this out by a long trial and error process. This video is great!

  • @nickyp2707
    @nickyp2707 Před 2 lety +8

    That point about fuel flow/altitude and speed blew my mind. I had no idea it matched based on speed, no matter the altitude.
    One of your vids was recently recommended to me, very happy to have found this channel!

  • @akrmki3389
    @akrmki3389 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for another quality upload!
    Very interesting indeed, been trying to figure this out on my own.. good to know i wasnt too far off.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 2 lety

      Appreciate the compliment and I’m glad you found it worth the time to watch!

  • @casarr6518
    @casarr6518 Před měsícem

    Thats some art in piloting :D Good job!

  • @mikeji9552
    @mikeji9552 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for your video, it’s very informative and cleared so many questions in my head! Thanks!

  • @RedBravo65
    @RedBravo65 Před 2 lety +2

    Most interesting and very helpful. Thanks.

  • @thomasengland1701
    @thomasengland1701 Před měsícem

    Wow great video. I always have trouble turning and losing air speed

  • @earthb67
    @earthb67 Před rokem

    Gold nuggets throughout that video. New subscriber here. Thanks!

  • @QuoTeZHD
    @QuoTeZHD Před 2 lety

    Quality video! definitely gonna help me with the F-16

  • @joshuadelorimier1619
    @joshuadelorimier1619 Před 10 měsíci

    this was the video I was looking for thank you

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! Makes a lot of sense.

  • @Mightymoose02
    @Mightymoose02 Před rokem

    Great, no nonsense guide!

  • @prichardgs
    @prichardgs Před měsícem

    This was excellent!!!

  • @mazztothemax1888
    @mazztothemax1888 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks once again! I was always confused why i had to push my afterburner to maintain the same speed when at higher alts. i never understood that about true and calc air speed!

  • @georgeventura9929
    @georgeventura9929 Před 2 lety +6

    Dude! Great info! I been wondering how to manage my speed, fuel, and trying to find out best cruise speed and altitude. Seems like I run out of fuel so fast in the Viper.

  • @shawnbowers5509
    @shawnbowers5509 Před 2 lety

    Nice tips this is really helpful.

  • @M0R4NT4R
    @M0R4NT4R Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love your videos. Small addition to F16 speeds - Glide Speed is @ 7% AoA.

  • @cbrpnk1789
    @cbrpnk1789 Před rokem +1

    Great content.

  • @alix6028
    @alix6028 Před rokem

    these tips are nutty THANK YOU GREATLY!
    EDIT: because of that I will turn off adblock and refresh

  • @andybakr
    @andybakr Před rokem

    thank you, brill😃ient tutorial / explanation

  • @hummingbird9149
    @hummingbird9149 Před 2 lety +3

    Corner speed is actually the name for the minimum speed where max instantaneous rate is achieved, used as a guideline for achieving min turn radius. Max sustained rate is achieved at speeds where Ps=0, which I don't recall there being a specific name for other than "best maneuvering speed".

  • @rickaredoughmyloss7023

    Great stuff

  • @XCougar85X
    @XCougar85X Před rokem

    Thank you for a clean and nice video. Missing climb but i see you commented that below.
    One thing i would like to stress, and you are briefly talk about is to not climb too high and get energy starved. Something i see online quite a bit lots of bags, and trying to fly too high with a very draggy load, with the plane hanging on it's ass with a high AoA and the plane just being slow due to the added drag.
    Standard IRL A2A is only a centerline bag if needed and the Wng bags are standard for A2G configurations that need loitertime over manouverability.
    And for GS you really don't need bags unless you use what i call concorde technique. Where you use bags to go full AB to around 50k feet for a massive missile range advantage. At that altitude you will have to run full AB, but you will consume about the same as at 30k full mill. Boring strat but safer for new players :D

  • @josefwitt9772
    @josefwitt9772 Před 2 lety

    Great info, subscribed! I've had the F-16 for a bit but the Hornet has been my main ride. Since I got a tip to take curves off the Viper my interest is rekindled. Good plane to learn some of these fundamentals in.

    • @erfguuipo8084
      @erfguuipo8084 Před rokem

      Why f18 as main ride ??

    • @josefwitt9772
      @josefwitt9772 Před rokem

      @@erfguuipo8084 It was my first module along with Supercarrier and I've spent enough time in it so I remember most things even if I fly others for a few weeks.

    • @erfguuipo8084
      @erfguuipo8084 Před rokem

      @@josefwitt9772 but isn't f16 better

    • @josefwitt9772
      @josefwitt9772 Před rokem

      @@erfguuipo8084 not for me. I know how to use a decent amount of the Hornet's capability, and carriers are fun.

    • @erfguuipo8084
      @erfguuipo8084 Před rokem

      @@josefwitt9772 but it doesn't have that very cool cbu 105. Also f15 can carry more mavericks wtf?

  • @mazinkhurshid
    @mazinkhurshid Před rokem

    Thank you for the great videos. How long did it take you to become good at flying the F16?

  • @redtailpilot
    @redtailpilot Před rokem

    good stuff, just what I needed to know for the Viper. Might help me keep my AI wingmen from running dry too quickly as well 😂

  • @yacobz
    @yacobz Před rokem +6

    What I would really like to see (and which I've found nowhere on YT) is how to climb and maintain speed without dipping into after burner (kind of the portion of the video you edited out to discuss differences in speed readings). So often with my group, I'm tasked with leading navigation, and during the climb no matter how fast we start (at least 400 knots), or how shallow, we STRUGGLE to get to 25,000 ft. We're often hovering at 270 kts or less before we reach that altitude. Weapons stores are usually not that heavy either. Not sure what to do to make climbing less strenuous honestly.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před rokem +8

      Set the power and pitch for speed.
      In a nutshell, and going from memory, here is a climb profile you can use with wingmen
      Full AB t/o, pitch up to put the aircraft FPM about 5 degrees. At 300 kts, mil power. Accelerate to 350 knots.
      At 350 knots pull the power back about 20% and pitch up to roughly 10 degrees nose up. FTIT temp about 800 degrees, fuel flow in the 9000/lbs range. You want reduced power so your wingmen can stay on your wing without needing afterburner.
      As you climb, fuel flows and the power produced will drop. Shallow out your climb angle to maintain 350 knots. Going significantly below this speed hurts climb performance. Adjust power to maintain 800 degrees FTIT
      As you climb through 20k you’ll notice the climb getting real shallow to maintain 350 knots and the Mach number is increasing. Maintain 350 knots (with pitch, leave the power set) until Mach reaches .75 then transition to maintaining .75 Mach and forget about the CAS (airspeed number). This transition should happen in the low 20’s

    • @RunTowardsDanger
      @RunTowardsDanger Před rokem +5

      Your just climbing too fast. Set to mil power after takeoff, climb at 350kn and reduce the climb angle to maintain it until you reach your desired altitude. Remember 25K feet is almost 5 miles high. The air is thin as hell at that altitude. No air, no power. Just be patient and remember real pilots aren't doing unrestricted zoom climbs unless it's for air shows or press flights. If you are delivering warheads on foreheads you have become the bomb truck. Drive the truck efficiently.

  • @nemisis_wolf
    @nemisis_wolf Před 2 lety +2

    Great Vid with very useful info, just getting back into DCS World after a 12 year gap and the F16 will be my goto jet as i used to fly Falcon 4 in the early 2000's, but i'm teaching myself to fly the Spitfire just now to teach myself how to fly properly before i get into the jets again. I think it's all to easy if you're just getting into flight sims (your young or just watched the new Top Gun Movie) to to jump into a jet in DCS an just use that raw power the jets have to throw yourself around without actually learning about energy management and that in reality throttle controls altutude, and pitch controls speed. Take a few flying lessons in a Cessna and your instructor will teach you that you think throttle is for speed and pitch for altitude but it's actually the other way round in planes, but the jets with all that power teach you some bad habits.
    Will be watching your other vids and waiting for more liked and Subscibed O7

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful. Hopefully I didn’t lose people rambling on about true airspeed.

    • @nemisis_wolf
      @nemisis_wolf Před 2 lety

      @@FLYGaffer Not at all i think you done a good job explaining the difference between the two.

  • @JoeSespn
    @JoeSespn Před rokem

    Awesome information about speeds and fuel management, thank you! One thing I don't know is what is the typical climbing angle and speed after take-off? I want to get to 20k ft, what should my climb and speed be. I just wing it but there is probably standard procedures I am ignorant about.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před rokem

      Speed 350 knots. Set power and reduce the pitch as you climb to maintain that. After 20k feet you’ll notice Mach is creeping up through .7 .. at .75 Mach transition to maintaining Mach in the climb and don’t worry about knots any more. The knots will drop as you continue climbing.

  • @reddog418
    @reddog418 Před 4 měsíci

    Lemoine, an actual F-16 pilot, would probably disagree with most of what you said regarding the turn rate/speed bleed at supersonic. The F-16 is designed to retain the energy through the turn. You don't want to "dump speed" by normal maneuver. If you want to turn faster, drop your throttle or use another maneuver.

  • @jacobdoolan4978
    @jacobdoolan4978 Před 3 měsíci

    So at what speed should I be climbing with a full load out???

  • @AnarghaBose
    @AnarghaBose Před 2 lety

    Hey can you tell how you got a fov like that,, i mean the stretched kind wide u have now

  • @ryanbarajas4257
    @ryanbarajas4257 Před rokem +1

    When doing BFM in the f16 should the HUD be set to display CAS or TAS? Which one do I base 430 knot rate speed on since there is a notable difference between the two the higher up you go?

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před rokem +1

      You’ll want to fly with it in the default setting, CAS. TAS and GS are really just useful for checking your performance if you are transiting between locations.

  • @neclen1591
    @neclen1591 Před 2 lety

    subscribed, One question what's button to switch between C/T air speeds?

    • @dannyellmore493
      @dannyellmore493 Před rokem +2

      Gaffer showed the switch at 5:26. It's next to the flight stick on the HUD control panel. 3-stage switch to select between CAS, TAS, and Ground Speed.

  • @antony716
    @antony716 Před 2 lety

    If any of this is a revelation, read the performance manual. Specifically the B section that uses the GE engine that is in the DCS F16. And I'm not trying to rag on this video; if you're new to sim flying this is especially good and easy to understand. But, if there's a performance manual available for a specific aircraft you're learning/flying, download it and use it.
    *only download it if it's legal for you. Not recommending you cross the US federal government.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 2 lety +5

      I don’t think I’d get any views or help anyone if I made a video that just said “read the manual” 😄

    • @antony716
      @antony716 Před 2 lety +1

      @@FLYGaffer There you go simplifying things again lol

  • @PlasticTonkaToy
    @PlasticTonkaToy Před rokem

    I think I missed the part talking about climb. I've always followed 0.66 or 0.77 mach for best climb.

    • @XCougar85X
      @XCougar85X Před rokem

      That is a good strategy. You kind of fly it like an airliner, set power between like 85-100% and adjust pitch for speed. say 350 loaded and 375/400 when light and once you reach mach .72/.75 when heavy or .80 when light you pitch for that. And once you cdrop below say 500 or 200 ft/min you level off to have some power reserves.

  • @garyreed4628
    @garyreed4628 Před 2 lety

    I Like the viper but six air missles eight would be great allways two short in dog fights harm system now improved can not put a ground weapon on centre line store is a shame just trying out ecm in next few weeks on line kirks hanger

  • @shudfx
    @shudfx Před 5 měsíci

    Yo Graffer, whats your monitor please.

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před 5 měsíci +1

      3440x1440 msi curved 34" monitor

    • @shudfx
      @shudfx Před 5 měsíci

      yo Graffer homie, thanks, and keep making those amazing videos! GG

  • @jebb125
    @jebb125 Před rokem

    ground stuff always kills me , maybe I should fly faster then 350 down low...

  • @xxxbg311
    @xxxbg311 Před 4 měsíci

    i found that F16 is more fuel efficently in DCS than F18

  • @yyorophff786
    @yyorophff786 Před rokem

    I never use after burners untill I need to. This plane sucks so much when burning. More so than f18

  • @sturesmidt1050
    @sturesmidt1050 Před rokem

    True air speed is relative the air and is not ground speed. True air speed TAS plus wind speed is ground speed.

  • @erfguuipo8084
    @erfguuipo8084 Před rokem

    With the way you've explained speed at 7:15 I take it that you're not a real pilot ?

    • @FLYGaffer
      @FLYGaffer  Před rokem +1

      If you could point out what specifically is incorrect I’d be happy to take a look

  • @nathaniel2603
    @nathaniel2603 Před 2 lety

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