Polestar 2 Performance vs Kia EV6 Wind AWD vs Tesla Model Y Long Range - Head to Head Review!
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2022
- Let's see how the latest $50-60K mid-range EVs, in the form of the Polestar 2 Performance and Kia EV6 Wind AWD, stack up against the gold standard of the segment - the Tesla Model Y Dual Motor Long Range.
/ zygrene - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Okay Fenton, now that the EV bell has been rung, I've always wanted to see you review a Model S Plaid... Oh hell yes, and pretty please on top.
Itching to review a Model S/X (Plaid or otherwise), Taycan, Etron GT, Mach E, Lucid Air, Rivian, Ioniq 5, the list goes on. Just need to find willing owners in the Bay Area!
@@Zygrene Hell, if you can bag a Ferrari, and living in the tech saturated South Bay, a hyper EV should be a cinch. I'm sure they'll start coming out of the woodwork, and I'm looking forward to it.
What a really useful review. Nothing more effective than a side-by-side review of genuine peers when it comes to consumer utility.
On advice from a mate down in Oz (a two-time Tesla owner), I test-drove the Polestar 2 performance… then cancelled my high-spec Model Y order here in Hong Kong. Have remained super comfortable with that decision ever since. So this review simply further-validated my decision.
What’s key for me with your review: These are your first-ever EV drives (let alone reviews), so came in with no bias as far as EV makes or models… just a straight-forward review of genuine peers.
An ETA of Nov/Dec for my P*2 now seems like an eternity!
The type of review no one else is doing, nice
Thanks so much for doing this EV review. Based on everything I've read, I expected things to come out the way you said, but it's still great to get confirmation from a trusted source. More please!
Also a couple things to note on price, I believe the Kia and Polestar are still eligible for rebates, whereas the Tesla isn’t
Yup this is actually a big deal. Federal credit of $7500 on the Polestar and Kia
Polestar is strangely compelling. Loved to hear your perspective on these!
Good comparison. Polestar 2's steering feel is perhaps surprisingly, by far the best with the light setting. Standard is also fine, but firm loses all the feeling and is really artificially "firm".
Great review, thank you!
Subscribed for the type of review we all need, it's the driver perspective! How the seats are feeling, heights, drive dynamics, wheel feedback, space, view... Thanks for that.
P. S
Nobody needs talking about visuals & entertainment systems of the cars, the most interesting review is exactly like this here. Cause here was a talk about the things that you can't determine trough the video, but need to be sat on the driver seat.
The Polestar looks the best by far! Best value imo!
Rear view visibility = zero
Its so tiny though. Good for commuting. Not a great as a family car. I tried both Polestar 2 and EV6 GT Line. I bought the EV6. The Polestar 2 is a rocket though.
@@coolpix222 I have it also as a family car with 2 kids and 2 adults and have been towing a caravan. :) Also doing long drives with 1000 miles in one go with it as well. :)
@@volvodashcam its a great car for sure. I was close to buying but the size got me thinking.
@@coolpix222 Is it cargo space you need more of? :)
I own an EV6 and I've done a little canyon driving, which is fun. But I got it or road trips and I can sleep in it, and with the right setup it will be very comfy, so car camping too, which I'll be doing in December.
Not what I expected to see on your channel. My brother bought a polestar 2 recently haven't had the chance to see or ask him about it yet. Didn't know the polestar 2 existed until I found out he had one haha
Ditching my model x for an ev6 gt - whenever I can actually get one. Was eyeing the polestar, but the larger Kia network of dealers (and service) is a big draw.
Being an Uber driver that just got into a Tesla a month ago. My friends and I ALLLLLL had that laugh when hitting the pedal. You can't help but grin and laugh 😄
It's so funny to see that grin we all get the first time one drives a well-powered EV. :D I love my Polestar 2, to be able to have a car that can match sports cars in some ways and at the same time be able to use that car to go on holiday with family is amazing. I have done about 500 miles with a caravan in the Polestar so far. :)
The polestar 2 you drove only have 300kw (408hp) and not 350kw (476hp). The boost package OTA is not avaliable in North America yet.
Ah, thanks for the correction!
yes this is what I was thinking as well. It’s not even a thing yet in North America.
@@jameshetfield5894 it is. The new polestar 2's can come with the performance upgrade in the states. Go to the build site. They also had a press release about it.
yes it is.
@@shafiaahmad4061 Dont be an idiot and make yourself look like a fool here. You can order a 2023 with the Performance pack with the extra power included. But none of them will arrive until Oct-Nov. The one he tested is a 2022, so it wont have it as the boost pack is not avalible yet for OTA in NA.
Honest assessment, Well done!
great video! love the EV content, keep it coming! taycan, etron gt comparison next?
Would love to, but don't know any owners!
Super helpful I am buying the polestar 2 and I am going to let my Tesla Y reservation expire (sounds better than saying I’m gonna lose $250). You can’t buy a EV6 now as there are literally none available but I am thinking the polestar 2 is a better choice in any case. I really appreciate you Testing let me cars that were my finalists.
If that is a Cali license plate the extra HP with the performance Pack is not available in the US yet. So it still should have 408HP.
Thanks for this video! I am one of those EV (Mini Cooper SE) owners who likes to drive my car hard carving canyons. I am annoyed by the the lack of EV reviews like yours that is more critical of the cars' handling characteristics than overly worrying about range and efficiency. I would love to see more content like this one....
Great review.
Is that Hwy 128 you're on? I LOVE driving the Model 3 on that road!
Why is getting an ev as a daily driver unthinkable?? After 3 1/2 years of owning a lr awd tesla model 3 and over 100k miles with practically no service maintenance necessary from over 1 hr driving each way to work and countless long distance trips still buying a gas/diesel car over an ev WOULD BE JUST PLAIN STUPID AND MORONIC.
Damn someone got triggered. Everyone is entitled to their own preference.
Ari … well said ✅👍
People are weird. When making decisions on EV vs petrol/diesel cars, they keep getting hung up on range when realistically they rarely ever drive more than 50km per day lol It's almost like they must see a big number just to make them feel at ease. I really don't know why anyone would spend big $ on luxury ICE cars in year 2022. Don't throw out your ICE cars just to hop onto the EV bandwagon but if it's time to change cars, it makes complete sense to stop buying brand new ICE cars
Can never go back paying $75 weekly fill ups, but people like wasting money and then Moan about the prices.
@@stockdetective4396 don't worry. As soon as you say something like that, they will say the price difference between EV and ICE cars doesn't make it worthwhile as if the only difference between them are cost of refuelling/recharging
The Kumho tire squeal giving me big Primacy on the 5 mile vibes
Great video. You have a new subscriber 😬
Well that was unique driving review thanks. And never having driven an EV before gave you a fresh perspective too. I just received my Rivian R1t pickup and I'm not in love with the driving experience. Of course it is an amazing multi purpose offroader but has too much regen and too big for me. Tesla is a hard no due to styling inside and out and lack of buttons. I test drove a EV6 and at least in the city found it a joy to drive. Best feature: paddle shifter regen adjustment at your fingertips. I used to like downshifting to slow down in traffic. Also taking it off altogether transforms car in a cruising dream on flat road. Saw a Polestar at a charging station and looked inside. Pretty nice. Not sure you would need a performance model when the basic trim seems to be 408 hp. I will have to try one based on this review but man they a high priced around here and hard to find.
Nice and well done review. What might be a better comparison is a Tesla model 3 performance and/or the model Y performance. The Polestar is the most sports like sedan of the three. I’ve driven one. The Y really maps to the SUV category. Not exactly an Apples to Apples comparison still a well done job here. All the best!
Model Y performance is above 70$ whereas those cars were around 55$
I got my Ev6 Wind AWD 3 weeks ago, I,ve driven so many cars, from lambs, Ferraris, teslas you name it. KIA did a phenomenal job on the platform, I want the GT but not until January. The car needs improvement on aero dynamics as it lacks behind the Tesla model slightly which would cause it to perform overall better. EV suffer from two major issues, weight and aero. Improving both will cause the car to drive further and quicker all around. The Ev6 is much sexier then the model y. Just designed light weight wheels with carbon, and waiting for full strut and spring suspension to improve my ev6.
You cannot have both looking great and aerodynamic with contrasting parts otherwise everything will look like Teslas and closer to being shaped like a missile or airplane.
Apple to Apple would require a Model Y performance, which you mentioned during the review.
Never thought I'd see the day lol
Do Model 3 performance stock and one modified by unplugged please
FInd a buddy that has a Jaguar I-PACE. Would love to hear your review.
Not really a fair comparison between the 325 hp KIA EV6 and the 476 hp Polestar. The Kumho all-season tires are also not the most fantastic tires and partly explain the instability in the corners. Don't forget the fast 800V charging system of the Kia. It was better to compare the new Kia EV6GT with its +500hp.
Nice. If only there was a vtec sounding EV.
I've rented the P2 before. Tbh I wouldn't get the performance since the ride is rough and the tires too low profile that I flatten them too often. Turns heads though.
S2000 engine sounds in an EV... I'd buy one in a heartbeat
Tesla has voice commands. You don’t have to use the screen. So many people making videos on Tesla vehicles who don’t know anything about voice commands. You hardly ever have to use the screen if you use voice commands
Brilliant review thanks!
You got to try the
EV 6 GT, more comparable price to the other two.
I think the write-over abut the polestar added hp and torque is incorrect and you were driving the standard car with 408 horsepower. The power upgrade is not yet available in the United States. You had the wheels, the suspension, and the yellow seatbelts, but the power is the same. The 75 hp addition is something everyone is hoping will be available in the US soon with a paid software upgrade. The one you were driving did not have that. (so your voiced comments were correct). cheers.
You're right, thanks for pointing this out!
The Model Y LR is probably the worst Tesla for canyon Driving. Try a Model 3 Performance or Model S.
U missed comparing it to the mache e as well :(
Great review. Jump in a model 3 performance if you want a fun canyon weapon or a model s plaid if you want your organs rearranged.
I have a Tesla model y long range, with acceleration boost. The best daily driver ever. The speed you can take curves on the highway with is unbelievable. The low cost for charging at home also. I’m pretty sure that the Kia will provide the same excitement for a daily driver.
Glad you like your car. Try a sports car of similar price on those same roads and highways.
If all you eat is McDonald’s and you love it, that’s cool. It’s perfectly fine. Try something else at some point, too. 👍
The weight and dead steering of a modern Tesla cannot possibly be avoided. There are real impacts for it. You want to floor it and smile when you drive in a straight line …. that Tesla is perfect! If you want turns and braking and the things that come with spirited driving …. you want a light, communicative car.
@@zero11010 bro I think your missing the point. My kids sit in the back with car seats while my wife is up front. I out accelerate most cars and even recently a mustang at the light. I saved about $450 a month in gas savings relative to a vehicle similar size. That’s almost a car payment. On our last trip, on the high, most of the way, I’m using autopilot. When I have to make a car payment, it no longer crosses my mind, because I saved a lot by not having to buy gas. Now if you are someone who can afford multiple cars and gas price didn’t affect you then fine, but for everyone else, electric is the way to go. Now it is not perfect, but it is a better start m.
@@eyes7054 please respond with the amount you pay per mile (or full charge) and the miles you drive per year. The nearly free per mile concept is lovely. But, you have to consider the cost of the vehicle itself.
You’re not driving hard with the wife and kids in the car (assumption on my part that you’re not putting them in danger for a smile). So, it’s just a family hauler unless you’re solo. When you’re solo …. You spoke about how well it turns. If you want fun in a turn you want a light car. That’s just how physics works. I’m not wrong.
If you want to accelerate in a straight line, have fun with the EV! For sure! This is where they stand out.
Most enthusiasts prefer … turning and stuff to just going in a straight line. A heavy EV isn’t going to keep on with a track day or a morning of canyon carving. Your brakes won’t be able to handle slowing down the mass and your tires will fry, and you won’t be able to tell what the car is doing with the electric steering.
Those were my original statements. I feel like I get the point.
I’m a fan of EVs. Personally, I drive a supersport motorcycle for fun (just over 200hp per liter of engine and they weigh nothing). I get wanting a practical vehicle. I get wanting something economical. I have a luxury-sport car for that.
If you want an economical car that will move the family in comfort you can get a 20k Prius or Hyundai ioniq hybrid. I’ll let you tell me how many miles you can drive at roughly 50-55 MPG to break even with the difference in cost for those cars.
Gas is $6.5 per gallon where I live in Northern California. Assuming 12,000 miles a year and assuming you always get electricity 100% free it would take just over 26 years for the cost of the gas at this price to break even with the difference in vehicle costs.
A heavy car just isn’t as much fun for spirited driving. Have fun going in a straight line. All good. Enjoy it. You specifically mentioned high speed highway turns. You can do better than a heavy electric car for that.
Glad you enjoy your car. Hope you love it. There’s nothing wrong with the vehicle. It just isn’t a particularly sporty vehicle, and that can be totally fine! 😄
Polestar is my 1 choice closely followed by the Kia. The tesla is ugly as f..ck (all of them) and a with truly boring interior to top it of. I know the Tesla fan boys are going to loose their shit over this, but that's just how I feel.
Driving an EV wearing a best motoring shirt. Lol
Just making sure people know my roots!
Nothing wrong with that. I drive a Model 3 Performance and still have my 01 Integra Type R. Absolutely love both of them.
Should have used model y performance
I test drove a model y recently. I came away feeling that, while the car would never replace my ICE sportscar, it could 100% replace our boring SUV any day of the week. It simply felt like the evolution of the car. As soon as these reach 500+ miles of range, we're in.
Agree completely.
90% of People don’t need 500 Miles plus range, they need fast charging and infrastucture to handle all these ev’s most People charge Home, and just need to top up once in a while.
Apples and Oranges, Model 3 Performance or Model S offerings could replace your sportscar. Like Jonas said below you do not need 500+ miles of range with all the charging availability options, 300+ is more than enough for a majority of folks.
Can agree you don’t need 500 miles. I top off every night to 80%. You’re not being honest to yourself if you think you need more range. If for a family car you probably wont even need over 200
Recently took a trip from Northern Colorado to Sacramento, California then up to Oregon and back in our Model Y. Superchargers worked flawlessly. That's the thing that impressed us most. 500 mile range? Your bladder doesn't last that long - let's be realistic.
These 3 cars have compelling features to be sure. Went with the MY because of range, charging network, Tesla FSD (full self driving) technology, 5 star crash ratings, security cameras, proven battery tech, etc.
476 hp?
You drive the down grade EV6 with the small tire P225 R19. The EV6 GT Line AWD LR with bigger tire P255 R20 to out proform the Polestar P245 R20
It really still doesn't outperform the polestar - the polestar particularly with the performance package is designed for this sort of driving, the EV6 isn't (but still good). I do agree that with the 20" wheels the EV6 would feel better than the 19" here, particularly as you get better tyres with it. As an every day car the EV6 is the best for me.
@@fraserreddick8828The EV6 GT with 21 inch rim over 500 hp will outperform the Polestar period
Motorcycle for fun. Car for practicality. You have to pay 5+ times as much money to get a comparable car for fun driving.
The bike is for canyons and fun.
The car is for day to day. Going luxury and comfort on the car. Much more concerned with the stereo and passenger comfort. The massaging and air conditioning seats. The passenger charging port access in the front and the back. Much less concerned with how fast the car is.
Charge times for an EV would be a lot more important than how well a 5,000lb car with electric steering handles some turns.
Great content! I personally test drove a Model Y, Mach E and Ioniq 5. While I prefer the driving dynamics and interior quality of the Ioniq, ended up with the Model Y due to its mature charging infrastructure, superior auto pilot features, and future software updates. However, at todays Model Y prices, I would have chosen the Ioniq hands down.
Great info. I'm very curious to try the Ioniq 5 and Mach E.
I’m pretty sure Hyundai/Kia actually have better adaptive cruise and lane assist than Tesla.
@@rishik4596 I don't think it is, but even if it is today, the whole point is Tesla's is improving every month. If you buy a Kia or Hyundai, the adaptive cruise and lane assist is never going to get better unless you buy a new car. If you buy a Tesla, 3 years from now your car is still improving and getting better.
@@jasonfranciosa but Tesla is foolishly limited with Elon’s cameras only directive. Without using Radar they have a lot more problems. More Teslas on the road. But, even taking that into account they have a higher percentage of crashes. Cameras not recognizing pedestrians or bicyclists or parked vehicles. With where tech is today you’re better off with an array of 3 radars each focused on a difference distance. It’s what everyone else uses. And everyone else is better at telling if there’s is an object in a given direction.
@@zero11010 This just shows your short-sightedness. Tesla's autopilot is improving at record pace. Do you really thing 1, 2, or 3 years from now they will not have solved this? Tesla's autopilot and FSD is already leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. It has some issues currently but is also Tesla's top software development priority with some of the top software engineers on the planet.
The difference is, owning a Tesla, every 2-3 months your car improves and fixes these issues. Owning one of the competitors, you're lucky to get map updates and infotainment system updates once a year.
I had a feeling that whichever electric car you drove first, would have the most impressive impact on you, because it was your first electric car. I’m not saying you weren’t objective in your evaluations of all three cars, but I do think there may have been an unconscious “few points” added to whichever electric car you drove first. 😀
Its super petty, I know, but I hate the Tesla interior. I got to test drive a Polestar and I prefer it hands down. I like having the dashboard read outs in addition to the tablet.
These cars are cool but way too expensive to justify if you are trying to save money at the pump. Basically for wealthy people as a 2nd or 3rd car
It makes sense for those who can charge for free at work
are you kidding me? these cars are not designed to save you money. they are premium cars at the end of the day, not a budget car.
Comparing performance polestar version to non performance version of tesla and kia doesn't make any sense
nice review! love that the Model Y is the "safe standard" that users will compare too. can't believe you're starting an EV series.
someone get this guy a Model S Plaid!!
Teska model Y color light grey is perfect
Like others have said, to really compare a P2 Performance, a sedan, you needed to have compared it to a Tesla M3 Performance, or at the very least, a Tesla MY Performance (a SUV). The larger wheels, better breaking, higher HP and lower center of gravity of the performance edition completely changes the drivability as compared to a Tesla LR. A standard EV6 isn't even in the performance category so it was bound to be the worst performer.
How is this an apple to apples comparison. This is so biased against the Polestar.
The Wind does not have two motors and does not have over 300hp. That is the GT LINE AWD that has that power.
This is the Wind AWD, which has the same powertrain setup as the GT Line AWD
V2L crush polestar and tesla.. on camping in several days.. you can cooking food..breakfast..even cut the trees with el chainshaw
We only have a model x is for the roomy but quality sucks and service sucks. Once our kids little older. We are planning to sell it. Probably get EV6. Won’t go back to a tesla
Great #Tesla Content
I actually own a model y all wheel drive a EV6 wind all wheel drive and just took delivery of a polstar 2 proformance. And I just had to ask because you said the EV6 breaks were pretty crappy did you go into the settings on the EV6 and adjust the brakes there is a performance break option and it is massively different I would say it even makes the brakes better than the polstar. With this option not turned on I agree the EV6 breaks feel like they belong in a much smaller car lol I just leave the performance break option on.
And I actually own a Bugatti Chiron, Koenigsegg Jesko, and Model S Plaid.
Bro that's just not true.
I also own a Polestar 2, EV6 and Model Y as well as a Model S Plaid, Model 3, BMW i8, Rivian R1S and a Cybertruck (Elon is letting me test drive for him) and the EV6 doesn't have any settings to change the breaking. The EV6 has the worst breaking in EVs right now.
I swear I'm about to launch my EV6 into orbit on the next SpaceX launch, my Dad works there and is getting me a rocket as well.
Welcome to the dark side.
I did not like your review.
Tesla is the king and does not have a competition 🙈
The Tesla is to the iPhone where the Polestar is to a Pixel (Android) device. Both are awesome but where one likes a Tesla the other might like the Polestar for different or the same reasons.
I have a Polestar 2 Launch Edition and would not get a Tesla over it.
Lol, Do you own Polestar stock? Polestar is a nice car, but a Tesla is a Tesla.
Zygrene - the Polestar 2 interior is OUTDATED with Vertical main Screen and too many Buttons & piano Black & Chrome.
Degenerate comment
Exactly, that’s why grownups like it over Tesla.
Zygrene - POLESTAR 2 is just a CHEAP made Compliance car thats made in CHYNA.
it has SHIT Engineering & Design using an OUTDATED bev Platform and a GAS car body.
Polestar 2 does not even sell in the TOP 10 .
EV6 is another COMPLIANCE built car using the GAS based GIMP Platform.
KIA/Hyundai is still one foot in the GAS car world.
KIA Hyundai does not SELL in the TOP 5.
TESLA has been 100% BEV on day one.
I own a polestar 2. you're smoking some good shit. it's easily the most luxury feeling of the three cars. no creaks, panel gaps, or shotty work. people sleep hard on these cars. what are you driving might I ask?
@@suvann540i - my Daily Driver is a LR model Y w/ Suspension by UP.
you can TELL Polestar 2 is NOT Advanced by its Telltale GAS Transmission HUMP Down the Center of the car , its full of Batteris. the POLESTAR 2 is full of BULLSHIT. and why SALES are so LOW.
they also have BAD Performance.
@@markplott4820 in real life conditions the polestar gets pretty close to the tesla in terms of range. The fact that it uses the xc40 platform doesn't make it a bad ev. The chassis is about twice as stiff as a tesla and the center of gravity is lower than a model y. Here in quebec on our bad roads teslas are known for spot weld failures over time which leads to windshield / roof and backglass cracking over time. Their efficiency also go down the shithole in cold weather whereas the polestar isnt much affected. I prefer a car with a complete interior over a plain dash with a wood stripe thay had no gauges or hud and that is made with sub par plastics. The polestar is a better built car with higher quality materials and while the brand belongs to geely, the only thing done in china is assembly. The cars are engineered and designed in sweden and geely doesn't have control over volvo / polestar which was part of the deal back in time. As we speak right now volvo and polestar are buying back their shares from geely and will only do business with geely for assembly just like they have been doing before.
@@davidpaulin - NOT Convinced, and POLESTAR 2 is Really INEFFICIENT , car is too HEAVY.
Get help. You just constantly trash anything but Tesla all over social media.
What’s NVH man⁉️⁉️You should use relatable terms & acronyms…