New Technologies 2024: GASTURBINE Engine 50hp in EV! "CatGen" in Atom HiperCar!
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
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In this video, we'll discuss the new technologies of the Ariel Atom HyperCar with a powerful 1200 hp. It's equipped with a compact gas turbine engine from Cosworth Catagen, capable of generating 35kW, which significantly extends the range due to this hybridization
Amazing, and show how ahead of the time the early 1960's Chrysler Turbine Car was
I believed gas powerturbine engines was the key to hybrid electric cars, trucks, boats and aircraft for a long time.
The only problem with gas powerturbine engines is the large fuel consumption and the slow torque buildup. A hybrid solve the slow torque problem. They are get closer to solving the high fuel consumption and high temperature issues also.
Brilliance in motion
The combustion temperature of the CatGen is not low because of the constant-speed operation: it is low because of the catalytic combustor. The catalytic approach is used to lower formation of oxides of nitrogen, but reduces efficiency. The heat exchanger is not new: it is a normal recuperator, a design not used in most gas turbine engines due to the weight and bulk (important in aircraft), but common in stationary and ground vehicle applications (such as the Honeywell AGT1500 engine in the M1 Abrams tank). The resulting engine is not light for its power, or efficient compared to ordinary internal combustion piston engines. I assume that the writer knows and understands nothing about this engine or other turbine engines.
Given some thought, I'd agree with your assessment. A small diesel engine would fit the role a lot better, but with the cost of weight and space. That being said, because there's not much in the way of turbine usage in the automotive industry, there would be fewer regulative land mines to traverse, so I'm pretty sure that's why they went with it... That, and the cool sounds it makes. Weeeeeeeeeeesshhhhhhh🛬🛸
@@jamestunedflat8942 government regulations limit emissions, not the design of the engine; an unusual design doesn't change regulatory approval.
this is a good approach. i drive a plug-in hybrid but the problem is my engine always turns on and off and it isn't very good for the engine. engines last longer when operated continuously than intermittently. also catalytic converter needs to stay hot to work properly and for that every time my engine starts it has to go through heating cycle just to then turn back off. it's stupid. better to keep engine off until battery runs down and then keep it on continuously.
It's a great idea for sure! If you buy me one I'll drive it!!🤣🤣
I dont really care about cars, but that turbine-generator module would be a cool thing to have! I would love to make a portable generator from it.
there is no shortage of turbine generators on the market.
That's the TREV engine (Turbine Recharging Electric Vehicle), there was a chinese brand that use that technology around 2016, Techrules, i don't know what happened with them, but they were gonna released 3 hypercars, the Ren, the AT96 and GT96, the last 2 mentioned would have that technology. Now a new brand (Ariel) is making it too.
Ariel is old.
If only the Global governments moved their EV technology investment to developing a version of this technology to make a reliable, affordable car to buy & drive on a daily basis, the World would be in a much better place.
We can dream, can't we. ha-ha ............ If only ........
Dam! Thats sweet. I want one! The gas generator, i mean! I would put in the hybrid 03 Mustang I'm building. It would solve some of the battery size problems i keep running into! Probably the same reasons Ariel is using it and have a small battery. I don't want to make my mustang that light and im keeping the 6 cyl eng so i would have to put it in the passenger seat ! Dam , now iit just gave me bunch of ideas with the hear off of fhe 6 cyl exhaust to a small gassifier to dam i got to write this down ! Thanks for the ideas.!
Microturbine Generators are not new but constant development has continued to make them smaller and lighter without the need for a lubrication system making them almost maintenance free.
This technology would allow for smaller/lighter/cheaper batteries in EVs with the ability to “Supercharge” while driving (needed for heavy duty pickups used for hauling and towing and/or long distance driving)
Another use would be in large agricultural and construction equipment as the power unit coupled to a modest battery pack as battery technology isn’t nearly advanced enough for heavy equipment.
and what about the sound, generated by this turbine?
combustion engine is loud too in applications like lawnmowers and chain saws. it has to be muffled. my guess is the turbine can be muffled as well, but maybe we aren't yet good at it. there is no reason why it can't be done, though. if i had to design a system to muffle it i would use a long convoluted pipe with fiberglass lined sides - some aftermarket car and motorcycle mufflers work this way - they pass the bass but block out the higher frequencies for people who want deep sounding exhaust. in case of turbine there is only high frequency ...
For us poor people, we can make one with a turbo and a hybrid ev motor and battery.
"... the weight is only 1500 Kg ..."
Newton Meter, Watt and Kilogram are SI Metric System units. And in this system of units, kilogram is a unit of Mass NOT weight or force! If you are going to mix the old, obsolete metric system from the 18th Century with the modern metric system, then technically you should be saying kilogram-force for weight because weight is a force. It has the units kilogram meter per second squared = Newton. Say "Mass" when referencing the unit gram/kilogram. One kilogram of mass is the same value on Earth, floating around weightless in space, and on the Moon. But the weight is different at each of these locations. Static weight is the product of mass mutiplied by the acceleration of gravity.
You should pay for a better CG voice.
It's a Batmobile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the turbine engine may be nice, but the car is absolutely ugly. Like a warthog had a child with a horn spider.
New? This ain’t new. Chrysler has these.
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so you gott a electric motor about 46% efficient and a gas turbine 42% that adds up to 19.32 % efficiency. you're nuts.
Get your facts right.... Electric motors have 64% efficiency. Let's say we have 100 energy points if we use the electric motor directly, 64 Energy points would push you forward. If you have a generator convert everything to (let's take your number) 42 Energy points this makes the general efficiency 26,88%, which is way better than a petrol car, but worse than a diesel. But the car itself would drive at least 90% of the times at full efficiency, because over 90% of daily trips are under 50 miles. And even If you have to drive a lot of kilometres every day, you would end up still driving at least 40% of the time with the battery. Which makes it again at least as good as a diesel and always better than a petrol car. If we look at well to wheel efficiency it's always better than ICE, but sure worse than battery electric vehicles.
you have no clue.
gas turbine engines for everyday use is not that good.. also big consumption
Good nice
Can man hydrogen use