The Agent That Ruined Valorant
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2022
- Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen.
From pro play to ranked, Chamber terrorized every level of the game.
And even when Riot tried to nerf Chamber, they couldn’t stop him.
So, we had to ask: did Chamber ruin Valorant?
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Riot: "Abilities don't kill."
Also Rito: makes an agent whose abilities are literally guns
those guns need to be aimed and he does nothing fancy except his tp which letting him do some duelist job
ALL sentinels dont have abi that let em move freely and MOST agents who could move freely with abi are duelist
@@3takoyakis Chamber is in no way a duelist. He literally holds sites. that's a sentinel. Sage stops players with a slow or wall and Chamber stops players with a bullet
@@yasuke7551 That's the dumbest thing I've read today. By your logic Raze is a sentinel too, she stops players with explosives, or jett, she stops players with knives and smokes, or Phoenix, he stops players with mollies, walls and flashes...
What makes agents assigned to specific roles is their abilities. You can't not call an agent duelist, when most of his abilities are designed to one shot enemies, get the first kills and get away scot-free.
@@Phantomonum OKKKK. how do you attack a site as chamber. PLEASE TELL ME. not hold an angle and wait. how do you actually attack a site with chamber??? ALl duelists can push for duels. how does chamber???
@@Phantomonum A character can be busted but still within its role parameters
Community: Give us an agent so Jett isn't picked 100%
Riot: Yes
Community: WTF
So true
nobody asked for that lol
@@Benni259 wrong
@@Benni259 everybody asked for that.
Chamber gets picked 100% instead
The problem with chamber is that you can't really nerf him in a way that won't make him unplayable. The whole nature of his kit is to get the aggressive pick and lock down sites by just denying angles. If you nerf that aspect then chamber is just a roleless agent.
i think you get rid of his headhunter to me it doesn’t really make sense why a sentinel should have a pocket sheriff idk what you change it to
the worst is that he has an op with marshall reload and that shit is fukin broken and that slow when you killed someone is just retarded. i say make his ult has op reload and make it 8/8 to use is a good nerf,
@@arthurbarnwell9220 Probably it was made for site hold as well as it has no damage drop off plus a great scope. Also he needed it to defend sudden attacks from behind (explains the quick pick up time). Chamber is perfectly designed for his Job but people just don't use him that way.
I think there is always a solution. You can definitely nerf him effectively without making him shitty, they just gotta come up with a good solution
@@Piercemxpx Umm, that sounds good but like what more can they do?
Valorant had an OP meta for a while in its first year.... and they did what they could to get away from that. BUT then they created a character specifically FOR the OP meta. Time really is just a flat circle.
The earlier OP meta was when OP was extremely strong and cheap for it's efficiency so teams ended up buying 2-3 OP's which was a problem
But having one agent in the team that's good with the OP is something I like... But I prefer a bigger variety with more risk taking than just chamber
it's more like chamber specifically made from different game. there's a reason why csgo pub really unfun, especially for casual (hint: +5 awp in 1 site)
I thought chamber was released because one of the other operators was broken and everyone was picking her still
I luv flat circles
Kinda a reminds of OW, release a character to counter the meta and it ends up breaking the game
"Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen"
Procides to show 3 clips with chambers abilities and 7000 clips of a pro player spraying down 5 people with a vandal
lol so true
Reyna pre Nerf says welcome my child. Shows they just make stupid video for views and have no clue about what they say.
@@avishekbaidya5865 Chamber was still broken
the clips are just the pro aim and his kti is good as long as you have the aim
hahahaha
Chambers ult voiceline "If you want to play lets play" was the scariest shit back then when he wasnt nerfed
I feel like we should be asking Riot to make the other sentinels better again
yes, rather than making chamber worse. i think they did nerf on his TP but his trademark should be back
yeah now that is 30 seconds is actually a decent nerf. the trip should have 2 and maybe make raidius smaller and slow doest slow as much something like that so he is not underpowered and can do his job as sentinel atleast wat i think
this. nerf is fine but now they need to buff the other three sentinels.
They should delete chamber.
They need to buff sage so she can res herself upon death
Even though chamber is OP, I think he helped make the meta more creative in a way. Since teams didn’t need Jett to OP anymore they could use different duelists, initiators, etc
Exactly
I dont see how he helped make the meta more creative when he now forces both teams to pick him. Initiators like sova, fade, and kayo were strong enough already and each had niche use that made them different stronger than each other in different situations. Now with chamber the way he is theyre required on a team comp, along with your teams own chamber. Thats 1-3 agent selections just auto locked. You need a chamber and you need an agent to counter the other teams chamber. Not really creative imo.
@@osyrisking5437you dont counter a chamber with a chamber idiot. Kayo is just as fine. Or literally anyone can kill chamber if youre good at the game.
@Reze i think you severely misunderstood my point, friend. When chamber was the strongest agent in the game, both teams were required to pick their own chamber, ALONG with other agents to counter him. Meaning one agent shaped at least 2-4 agent selection choices out of the 10 players in the game. That's common sense. I spent a period as a kayo main JUST to counter the other teams tour deforce, while always having a chamber on my own team.
The crazy thing is that he's really only overpowered if you are good. If you have bad aim, I would recommend literally any other character
What about Reyna lol
I mean even if you don't have the greatest aim you have a free get out jail card with his tp and his op is just broken you don't need to be that good to use a op
@@ameer.maqbool reyna's only good if ur enemy is bad. She doesnt work well in higher elos
@@CreepyTroller you kind of do, I've seen chambers wiff all their op shots before
The game isn’t balanced around golds
He's still strong after the nerf, lets see what happen to this agent in the future.
Oui . But at least unlike before you now actually need to use ads to aim his sheriff or you miss all of the time and tp takes an entire almost 30 secs to recharge but his ult is actually quite good as unequipping it doesn't waste the entire ult and makes rotation easier but his kit as i practiced works really well holding sites almost a bit too well
@@ricx58 imo the reason why his sheriff is so strong isnt because of its price or anything related with its strength but how fast its able to pull out, if you need to reload mid fight just pull it out, if you shot a op shot pull it out its kinda super strong
@@ricx58 well as a chamber main it really infuriated me when the enemy chamber straight up just spammed his headhunter at my body while I tried to headshot him.
@@Theo-di8qe most fights don't even go so long that you shoot your whole clip or spray too hard. You mostly kill them or die instantly. Situations where you really miss your whole clip and somehow still survive and then take out your headhunter are kinda rare tbh. And its not like every chamber player has good headshot aim, like avg. Headshot rate till diamond is like under 16%
@@ricx58 wdym you have to ads? nothing about the headhunter besides its price was nerfed
Calling the ult a free OP feels wrong lol, it completely shits on the OP.
@keithsze001 even faster than the cs awp tho, it’s the speed of a marshal with the mobility and power of the cs awp
Op on steroids
@@czadirect not to mention it has a built in mechanic to prevent people from trading the kills you get with it. And it costs you nothing economy wise and can't be picked up by enemies.
@@Falllll "its balanced"
"free" because we all know ult are free.
Trademark is way more op than people realize on most maps if you have two it’s almost impossible to be flanked. The most op thing about chamber is even if he loses a round and can’t buy he still has insane kill potential between his sheriff and ultimate.
Agreed. 2 trademarks is 2 many. If chamber has a trip that allows chamber to travel the entire map and still work then one shud be enuff. Riot shud revert the util range on kj.
They need to give rendezvous a significant arm time otherwise he is just old Jett but requiring one extra brain cell.
Like jett, if they take away the instant tp then chamber won’t be chamber anymore and the core idea of him will be taken away. I think the best thing for them to do is the same thing as jett and make it so you have to activate it once, 1 sec delay then you can activate it to tp with a 12 second timer to activate like jett
True. It's so easy to topfrag with chamber of the broken op. Isee people in my lobby that im carrying hard. Im 19 he has 9 kills then by the end of the game coz of the 4 ulti for the rest of the game he ended ofmatch mvp even though he can barely kiill with the vandal
@@jeric8692 some ppl cant really use vandal ya know and that ult is nothing but an op but reskinned into looking like that but i agree on his tp he needs to have an arming time like jett as he already has a cool down for tp-ing
@@ricx58 i mean his op is just a one shot marshal
@@ricx58 its not a reskinned OP. its a Turbo OP better in pretty much every way possible with very few exceptions... and its "free" which means he gets more money and more kills that again feeds into his "abilities" that are just better guns
The nerfs on Chamber are reasonable and well deserved, however, the problem I still see in the sentinel role is that he lacks competition for the role. Sure Chamber got nerfed but he is still way more powerful than the other 3, they need to buff especially Cypher to be able to challenge Chamber for the sentinels role.
Just the slow time is bit too much for a sentinel
i think i'd go with something like this for Cypher
Trapwire: Windup 5s > 4s, The wire works even if cypher is dead, utility like Sky and fade/s dogs can not break the wires.
Cage: Enemies inside the cage will be shown every 2 seconds.
the camera recovers after 40 seconds instead of 45 when it gets destroyed.
The cage think may be a little broken, but out off all the sentinels, Cypher is the one that suffers the most
@@francotomaspetruelo7290 ult is still useless and cam is still bad
@@francotomaspetruelo7290his ult should be a at least 3 blinks his wires should still be activated just like you said and reduce the visibility of the god damn cam which is the literal worst thing ever .
The nerfs are enough for him to be taken off the role as a sentinel on certain maps which is good, but he is still debatably better then other sentinels on most if not all maps. Me being a killjoy main still feel like it's hard to do anything against chamber if hes played well and his alarm bot is placed correctly, as it doesn't have a range for it to be active while also having a huge radius of detection. ik that is similar to cypher trips but the trips can only be placed in between walls and u have to walk into them. Personally I feel other sentinel need a slight buff so they see more play or become more viable as cypher just isnt and while I make kj work on all maps it's just not great watching my kit not do anything other then my turret because the radius is to small or just to easy to be worked around.
I agree killjoy is really underpowered right now it’s ridiculous, like they completely forgot. Her util isn’t nearly as useful as it was
Yea agreed, a little buff like remove the activation radius for her alarmbot is enough i think. And then for Cypher, just make his ultimate reveal thing work like when we shoot from camera, so we can rely on it more, and can buy for some time to delay exec or rotation.
I think they should give the sentinels the initiators treatment, nerf Chamber enough so he’s not a must pick and buff Cypher,Killjoy and Sage so that they can compete with Chamber at all levels.
You nailed it. This tones chamber down where he should be but it doesn’t bolster the other already lack luster sentinels. So he’s still going to be picked over the others because they need buffs desperately. I’d start with sage. Make her heal 20 seconds instead of 30. Rework her slow and make her wall cheaper, allow you to place it pre rd and make It take 20 percent less damage to break. As far as kill joy, her mollies need some help. Maybe the alarm bot explodes after going off a certain amount of time.
@@Venomx-nb1jr another thing I would like to be changed to kj and cypher is that when they die the set ups destroy them selves so the enemy cant see them would allow for the same set up to be used again even if u die early instead of it being seen and just going to waste.
Imagine a cypher buff where if he uses his ult his ultilities would be invisible for 15 secs (nobody could see it even if they’re near it) then he gets a 3rd tripwire, 3rd smoke, and be able to retrieve the camera anywhere and place it again without cool down.
This is absolutely absurd. But might actually make him capable of rivaling chamber. And i love it.
I always thought it was weird they nerfed Jet's quick dash from awping, but not Chamber's.
Not to mention the fact it's on a COOLDOWN
fr
as a jett main im still angry
Chambers TP is meant to be an angle holding/Opping ability, while they wanted Jett’s dash to be more of an aggressive entry tool.
Jett is a duelist, she's not supposed to hold space, Chamber is a sentinel, let's hope the nerfs are enough
"Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen."
its like we suddenly forgot how broken astra was.
Astra takes skill and timing
@@md-3941 not right now mister, did you not remember astra meta a few months ago or how long ago? Every pro team had to lock an astra in every map basically with like breeze and stuff being the only maps it's not played in. Astra was the only smoker worth picking and it was soo fucking overpowered
@@moojj. Honestly, no not really. Because I would literally come across one Astra every 10 games, and half the time they're not even that good at the agent. But idk about pro play
@@md-3941 yeah in fps games like val, characters powers are judged by how good they are in pro play, since most ppl can’t play them well. in ranked no matter what you play you can roll the enemy
You were an easy kill if you were caught preping
Who else is watching this after Chambers nerf in 5.12
Literally made him a sentinel
He needs a buff, the trademark needs to have infinite range again. I’m ok with the rendezvous being 1.
Astra, Jett and Raze were also OP at some point. I think Chamber has been nerfed well enough that he is no longer a must-pick. In low elo, nobody can aim well enough to play him. In high elo, teams can clear him with utility. It is kinda annoying how he can hold such aggressive off angles and not be punished sometimes though. I think if you nerf rendezvous any more, they might as well change it into a different ability. Something that can help with rotation, maybe increase range to reduce the tp speed, etc.
You just described Yoru in that sense
Hit him with the same thing they did to Jett or Yoru. Make it so you can't just mash E and get out instantly with no chance of being killed on the way. Literally any amount of delay between key press and teleport would solve this.
@@DrPonk"no chance of getting killed im the way" do you know how much i died while in tp Animation?
@@yhwach1
That's just because of how the game processes player input. It's long and complicated to explain, but basically when that happens, the game sees two actions (them shooting you, and you teleporting) that happened around the same time and decides their input happened first. However, so there's no weird delays or lockups, your input still registers and your body even gets teleported away, despite the fact that in reality, you would never have gotten a chance to teleport in the first place.
I always find it so odd about these "op agents/characters/champions or whatever" and some of the clips just show some gameplay that isnt even related to the problem (like the phantom clip @ 0:24 ). This happens every time :D
edit: also 3:30
Was looking for this comment. I agree, if you show a chamber spraying into a smoke cloud with the default pistol getting 4 kills, I think that's a bad clip to show when you are building a case.
@@Indubitably_Pol Could have shown Chamber touching children or something, that would greatly help with building a case.
I think they are just showcasing how much is he played in pro play? I could be wrong tho
All of the Plays circulated around Proper Gunplay , and Not even Mostly related to Chamber's Abilities . Only a Few Clips that Made it for Abilities . idk why its such a Big of a Deal , where every other new Agent Dominated the Meta .
I think we need to seperate the agent from the players that play them. There's just so many clips in here that can be done by any other agent if you are cracked enough. Of course if a pro player plays a agent, they will be cracked but does that make the agent itself broken?
Chamber was undoubtedly broken, however I think the one thing he accomplished was showcase how desperately the other sentinels need buffs.
Even after these most recent nerfs, while chamber will hopefully be less op, I'm predicting he'll still be the most dominant sentinel. I'm also willing to bet that Riot will see that he's still the most played sentinel and decide to nerf him again instead of buffing the other sentinels.
Agreed. He's the only Sentinel that isn't as noticeably as weak on attack side not to mention just how strong he is as a defender. He's also probably the only Sentinel who if they die early you don't lose out much utility because theres not much utility to lose when your utility is literally just more guns. If a Cypher or Killjoy die early, thats a waste of a ton of utility, if a Chamber dies, thats a waste of a good gun.
Remember when the game came out and cypher was arguably the best agent in the game?
Cypher especially feels so shit
Bro just take cypher for example, he literally hasn’t been buffed in his lifetime from beginning to end of his existence in this game. Don’t y’all think sentinels other than chamber need buffs asap?
@@firebreath5587 cypher will be getting buffed, chamber gonna be nerfed
You forgot to mention that a certain agent does exist that can counter chamber with his ult and other ability perfect aswell weaken his nearby comrades and that agent is called kay0.
that is the thing tho
every initiator is strong and counters chamber pretty nicely
but when you're running around dry peeking and getting punished for that
when they feel that he is op
cause he is suppose to be that guy
if you're not good around your utility or skipping initiators in your comp then you must be punished
@@michhil7 i agree on that.
@@michhil7 well said. it's sad how valorant is full of crybabies. just like LOL community it's doomed to go failure around these cry children who complains about everything that they see working against them. in this case? well, an mechanically skilled person behind a character's back named chamber.
@@michhil7 I wish I had a teammate like you
@@michhil7 Yeah but now we have a character that forces the use of utility. Initiators shouldn't have their performance heavily inflated by their ability to find one agent just because that agent has multiple overkill tools to get a pick and get away unpunished.
"Chamber is the most overpowered agent Valorant has ever seen."
It seems like almost everyone forgot about beta sage
Her fking wall man
And u forgot reyna with her 4 heals
Raze with high damage satchels two nades and boom bot of death. 5 or 6 point ult.
@@MashhoodAhmed48 true
And breach triple flash oh no
@@tobiletsplay breach with three flashes was fucking nightmare
From overpowered to troll pick...
I feel like a lot of sentinels got nerfed for a reason, their kits were just too oppressive. I'm not sure if the nerfs were too harsh tho
Half of the clips are just Pro players having a crisp aim and game sense lol
chamber mains after laughing and saying: "this is too fun!" after watching this video
(also pls buff cypher)
Make another video on "The Game that ruined Chamber"
I like hoow the OPTC yay clips they showed didn't even include anything about Chamber's kit, it was just yay being yay
(Player gets ace with Vandal) People: "Wow nice ace"
(Player gets ace with Vandal while playing Chamber) People: "Bruh Chamber is way too op, nerf his ult please"
it encapsulates the "he's op though i don't have a good explanation of why" that people have about better players on any given agent.
Yeah (not trying to suggest that I'm a really good player or anything, just got lucky this time), I clutched a 4v1 with an operator as Chamber the other day, didn't use my teleport or headhunter, just the operator and trademark that I bought at the start of the round, but my team and a couple of the enemies were all like "yeah of course he wins, he's playing Chamber," while if I get 2 or 3 kills with a sniper as say Cypher or Fade, no one really cares
"This guy has a fuckin marshall as an ultimate" God I wish he was right
It was a really bad idea from Riot to nerf Chamber so hard into the ground. Yes his tp was busted AND he WAS a Sentinel pre nerf. If you heard him ult you instantly knew not to peek him. His entire strength as a sentinel was to deny any entry for a specific site by playing aggressive and he needed aim. You could've still killed him if he missed or use Utility against him like every othet agent.
Now we are in this stupid Jett + OP Meta again, where she kills one, dashes out to peek again, kills another one and dashes out again
I think for me just personally in general for Valorant and I'm looking at Jet and Chamber specifically, is just that you don't get punished for missing shots or not clicking fast enough, even if the enemy knows what they're doing. There's almost no risk for wide swinging, aggressive operator (and Chamber's "operator" as well) plays because Rendevouz and Dash are like second chance you can use every single game it feels, and it eliminates any risk of aggro plays whatsoever
god it must be a massive pain to balance this game. its one thing to balance all of the guns but you also have to balance the characters and their individual abilities. any change could cascade into bigger problems down the road.
People : OH NO CHAMBER IS THE MOST BROKEN AGENT IN VAL HISTORY
Astra before patch 4.04: *let me introduce myself*
The agent I've been instalocking for 7 months yet he can't get me out of diamond, wtf am I doing with my life
They are gonna nerf him again for sure. He is still super strong and playing him feels like not much has changed (just takes about a game to get used to the smaller tp radius). I can totally see riot giving in and making his tp slower, similar to that of Yoru, perhaps.
Honestly i feel the revolver(headhunter) cost is the biggest nerf, the rest are basically a joke
@@TheArrowedKnee yeah and it really only affects pistol rounds giving him only 4 bullets instead of 6. That nerf can totally be felt, but a good player can still be good for two and set up well for an OP. I’ve played games where we lose pistol and nearly win second round because I still have 4-5 bullets to work with and I get two headshots. I think that part about his kit is okay but the OP kill insta TP is all he needs to be abused.
@@DarrkGeneral Agreed
They need to make his TP like Jett's dash. This doesn't belong in the game
@@deafy9666 yeah I don’t know why they keep on insisting on this trade denying mechanic it’s broken it lets player take any fight because u know you can just leave where is the risk to holding an off angle or push forward for more space what’s funny is that this mechanic only way you can use an operator maybe they fix the op the gun is in a weird spot in my opinion
I miss him..
The moment I saw someone pick Chamber in spike rush, I knew he gonna try hard
Everyone talking how op chamber is:
Remember every op character has a counter
"*Kay/o ults*"
I completely disagree that he was the most broken because astra, but he was dummy op.
Op in different ways ig
Astra was OP In the sense that she was the must pick smoker. But it didn't really make the game painful from my perspective like chamber and jett do. I wasn't frustrated to play against Astra, it just made the selection less diverse. There's a difference
@@coles5433 then you never fought against pre-nerfed astra or a good astra. If you didn't think she was op in the essence of map control and ability spam, then you never played against it (lucky you :P). I'm pretty sure everyone who played against that astra would agree it was more painful being sucked or stunned every 12 seconds.
@@azaira1802 I was prob too low in rank to feel it. I guess that is the difference too. Chamber feels OP at every rank, Astra was too complicated for lower rank
I think Chamber is still a pretty good agent, but with these nerds I feel there is an obvious skill gap there. You have to be aware of your tp radius and value your sherif shots, and the fact that it can’t one shot leg anymore means you have to be a bit more precise.
I'm pretty sure its harder to hit the legs than it is to hit the body... especially if you train yourself to have head level crosshair placement.
@@osyrisking5437 I’m aware, it’s just a bit easier to punish say a jump spot, a normal op doesn’t kill, unnerfed chamber op does
I remember how strong Killjoy was on release and she was so much fun to play but the range thing kinda defeats her purpose of being able to lockdown two sites
His best possible nerf is to have his ult shoot and feel exactly like an Operator and make it more of an eco saver. I'm not even a Chamber main but I pop off with his ult and the multi kill potential it has is just insane. This is his best balance scenario to make him a real sentinel:
1. Bring back 2 trademarks but have an AOE similar to KJ. Trademark is actually an OP anti flank honestly.
2. Tour de Force retains having 8 points but give it a heavier feel and not shoot like a one shot marshal
3. Retain the rendezvous limited range
They could also do if he takes damage, teleporting takes more time if he gets hurts alot so it is not always an insta teleport
They need to nerf his movement speed with his OP and Pistol.
Make it so he’s forced to hold angles, not run around like he’s playing CoD
I feel like this is the perfect way to make him more balanced without nerfing him into the ground
"Not run around like he's playing CoD"
*Stares at Raze and Neon*
Lmao you joking right? You never See run and gun with spectre in plat and dia lobbies? You smoke? And what about neon? Her ult shout run and gun to you, nerf that. Chamber need great aim to kick you in the face meanwhile run and gun like neon is the cod style
@@zacmochie7031 you do know the difference between their roles right?
@@zacmochie7031 we found the chamber main lmao
The one thing they would have to nerf can’t be nerfed without removing him from the game. Maybe set the E cast range to close to nothing so he can only play off-angles any other agent can
"chamber is the most OP agent valorant has ever seen"
old astra: do I look like a joke to you
watching this in december 2022 hits different...
The deagle pull out time needs to be increased he has an operator he shoots he misses you peak u get one tapped
Then instead of crying hire Kayo
@@dark_knight439 are u thinking does kayo have a knife 24/7
Isn't it something you say about almost every Valorant agent? xD
Bro don’t know what he’s talking about
What Riot did was not nerf it was injustice for chamber and chamber mains
Chamber reminds me of Gibraltar in apex in the sense of YOU HAD TO PICK HIM in the highest lvl of play and Respawn (the devs) didn't want to nerf him because he allowed your team to make mistakes and be safe
They should have kept his badass original name "Deadeye" that truely reflects how terrorizing this agent is....
i dunno man, deadeye sounds unoriginal and insanely cringe... might as well call him bullseye
@@fraggyeco7555 it was cringe
Deadeye is literally Sova's 2nd Chapter Contract Name.
nooooo, chambers not broken, riot gaming company would never make any character in any game that would be game breaking, no wayyyy, i mean just look at league all of the characters are-
A quick nerf for him is to make it so that if one of his anchor is destroyed, it would never work again for the entire round so we could atleast retaliate when chamber dipped out. Also, he should be unable to quickly pick up his anchors after use, like maybe 5 seconds so they could destroy his anchor and completely neutralize one of his kit
To truly make chamber a sentinel, they should made his signature ability to do the same as trademark to either lockdown a site or gather intel instead of a teleport anchor
1yaer later valorant ruined him
Watching this after they nerfed him again in 5.12
Lmao
Haha dancing at the funeral
nerf? they killed him. from one of the highest rated pick to lowest.
You can hotkey switching to your deagle every time you fire, and if you have a marshal you can basically fire twice. It’s almost as effective as an op. You just have to change things when you have another gun.
I think the most fair nerf would be to add reloading every 2 shots. like a long operator reload or something then do the same for his pistol. every 4 bullets reload
What makes him a sentinel, was the slow on his ulti, his trademark, and his tp's. Now his tp is strong, its not as strong as old jett dash. As the set up locks you to 1 area. Which is why he is a sentinal. Where as jett is a duelist because she could run freely holding her dash for when she needed it. But then they gutted jett dash, which is why it is not seen as much and chamber is. This in regards of the op meta.
Now, the problem comes to his pistol I feel. It is almost as strong as jett knives. Which is an ultimate ability. Which you have every round. People call it a free guardian. But it is better in every way except ammo. Its a pistol, so you run faster with it. It pulls out quicker than the guardian. Similar aim, same adc. But also has quicker recoil reset, and a quicker animation for shot, so can double tap it quicker also. This just becomes more broken the better your aim is.
Chamber has not ruined the game, but his pistol is overtuned. I feel his ulti is not overpowered. It is an ultimate. Sage res unlocks someone's full abilities kit of an agent. K/O stops all abilities being used in that area for a decent amount of time. Viper pit making you run around 1hp when trying to find her. They are all over powered, thats what makes them ultimates. In my ranked, if we vs eco and chamber pops ulti, its like, lets take all the shorter ranged routes as he is less likely to hold them. If we find him, we rotate and run over his team who has nothing.
Operators will always be strong, just like they are in CS GO with the awp. Apply this with different style abilities, it will get interesting. Harder to figure out how to counter. But I do not think it is impossible to do so.
As a Chamber main you said what was running in the hamster wheel inside my brain. The headhunter, while yes I agree is an overglorified sheriff and Jett Ult upgrade it still is just a sheriff at the end of the day. It’s not like the thing had any aim assist behind it so if your aim is dumpsterfire then the headhunter is a useless piece of shit. And Chamber is just another agent if you look at the grand scheme of things, it’s not like he’s impossible to kill, it’s just up to how good you are to be able to outperform the player using Chamber.
@@RealAstroWhale "Now, the problem comes to his pistol I feel. It is almost as strong as jett knives. Which is an ultimate ability. Which you have every round. People call it a free guardian. But it is better in every way except ammo. Its a pistol, so you run faster with it. It pulls out quicker than the guardian. Similar aim, same adc. But also has quicker recoil reset, and a quicker animation for shot, so can double tap it quicker also. This just becomes more broken the better your aim is." you clearly didnt read this properly, can't be considered overglorified that implies that isn't a lot weaker than it lets on, it's simply just as good if not better than jett's ult, and better than sheriff in every way.
Tour de Force doesn't only inpact 1 round, the economy impact on the team is massive as well, not mentioning how easy it is to get kills with the ultimate, Chamber can buy a weapon for his teammate and that teammate, if playing well, can win the round and gain a huge economic advantage. The impact of the ultimate is a bit underestimated in my opinion.
@@YesMyMahiru play around it
@@YesMyMahiru it costs 8 ult points, Sage can rez a whole person with abilities and they get to save their gun (economy) in a similar way, Chamber’s ultimate is okay now for an 8 points ult
If i had a nickel for every time they ruined Valorant, i could probably buy a PC to run Valorant
Chamber's new ultimate weapon:
-Marshal damage stats
-Fire rate slightly increased
-Fixed 3x zoom
-100% hipfire accuracy when still
-8 bullets
-100% penetration
-Enemies hit suffer nearsighted and concussed for 0.5s
-When ADSing, enemies heads are highlighted red
-Cost 1 less ult point
*Big overall nerf,* taking away instakill potential and no longer being able to use it like a shotgun, but still really strong at range in 1v1s. Well placed headshots will still instakill through walls. Very good change if you are a skilled Marshal player. Amazing for ecos.
People saying his TP has to be delayed or it has to be nerfed similarly like Jett are just dumb.
Jett was nerfed that way because her dash was always supposed to an aggressive site entry but it was such a simple dash that it became extremely good for OPing, holding angles and just get away with braindead plays. Jett was giving so much value on defence rounds for a duelist agent.
Now coming to TP delay, this will completely kill the character. Jett unintentionally turned into this but Chamber was intentionally designed to be the defender that will punish you for peeking without thinking too much or without clearing or jumping peeking him. Adding TP delay will make him as good as Yoru in Oping. Have you ever seen Yoru being a viable Opper in good ranks? Me neither.
Now people saying he needed two trips: If he gets two trips and has an Operator in his hands, he is nothing but a way better Cypher, there will be zero maps where Cypher can atleast stand toe to toe with Chamber. And if they had nerfed everything else and kept two traps, then it would've been vice versa ie he would end up being a cheaper version of Cypher with lesser information and a Yoru TP that can't be sent to backside but instead has to be placed physically. They both are supposed to be different and supposed to have different identities.
My proposed best nerf was always increase cooldown which they did. The other nerf I'd love to see is them rewarding aim. Maybe 2 bullets in ultimate and get 2 back on every kill? Maybe also have a timer for the Ultimate so that it won't be this broken in save rounds etc or atleast the enemy team can have some amounts of counter play? I really loved the idea that destorying the teleport gives more cooldown now, maybe increase the destroying cooldown more so that Chambers will have to think even more?
Forreal just a free OP for a whole round is just insane both on attack and defender side. Even though it's just 5 bullets and people miss shots, but good players don't miss shots.
What’s funny is Reyna’s pick and win rate in ranked 😂😂
Mostly in Low Elo
Reyna is a Smurf Agent (fck them smurfs)
@@mytylakishi6989 reyna is still being picked alot in high elo.
Creates his own weapons, can one-shot you from afar and is a menace to play against.
Nope, it's not Aphelios. Its actually Chamber.
the rendezvous isnt always a get out of jail card. sometimes you can tp away and still somehow die
There's one place where jett beats chamber: entrying. When chamber somehow doesnt have an awp, he is not as good as jett. While chamber needs quite a bit of prep for his mobility, jett can activate before a peek and then dash when she does. Jett has overall a much better kit for entrying than chamber. Also chamber can only get 5 bullets in pistol, making it not as good of an investment now.
weird argument. What about things that Chamber is good at that Jett isn't. Sure Jett can entry, but Chamber is better at holding a site, being able to watch 2 angles at once, better for economy due to his headhunter, better for watching flank etc. It's unfair to acknowledge the things that Jett does better without brining up the things Chamber does better.
that's kind of obvious. Their role states everything. A duelist will always be better at entrying than a sentinel.
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as a cs:go awper , chamber is everything we wanted.
lol so true! HAHAAA
I can already see this game going down the same path as my once beloved R6 Siege. Releasing overpowered characters as incentive for purchase, then half heartedly attempting to nerf them, but only after everyone has either bought or earned them. Even the newest agent harbor, while I dont really find him overpowered, still gives me similar vibes. He is basically just an amalgamation of existing agents, only slightly better.. Im afraid its only downhill from here. They might release an agent that mixes up the meta in the right way, but those agents will be few & far between. Prove me wrong riot
The clip in which he oped and then hunted the head in 1 second is the most broken thing ever
i feel like this exact problem with agents and how they are built will eventually become a big problem for the game. imagine the types of agents and abilities we will have years down the line. i feel like chamber was just the tip of the iceberg.
look at games like overwatch, league, and r6 as examples. sure they are very different than valorant, but the same principles apply. agent power creep and riots strive for innovation will put the game in a weird spot in a few years.
and you will still be playing & paying for skins
The only rework i can think for him is that he originally starts with 2 bullets in his sniper and for every kill he gets with it up to the limit of 5 he obtains another bullet but if he does not then he loses the bullet which would change his playstyle to anchor more than play as a duelist.
*the op exists and is OP asf*
valorant team: lets make an agent that gets one all the time for free, that'll go fine.
I really do feel like riot is doing the right thing by not touching the other sentinels they might not be sure what to do with chamber exactly but if they start buffing every agent in a role when a new "OP" agent is added valorant will become overwatch in 5 years its funny powercreep comes from this problem exactly we ask for it and then we hate it.
The issue is that every other agent in that role is already really weak. Cypher is bottom of every tier list, KJ is an off pick. Sage is an egirl meme stuck in mid tier. Chamber has a high pick rate because every other sentinel is so bad. Nerfing him further might make so teams won't run sentinels at all. Also early OW was way more unbalanced, they nerfed nearly every character from how they started. Bridgette dominated the scene cause the other supports and even tanks were just bad in comparison to her.
now valorant ruined him hahahaha
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how many videos are you guys going to make on chamber
I’ve seen a lot of people buying ghost or shorty round 1 on chamber now that you can’t even get 5 bullets with the trip.
Hot take: Chamber wasn't problematic at all.
Hottest take ever wtf 😂😂😂
Honestly, Chamber has never been the problem. Riot still doesn't learn from their mistakes, and they actually made the same thing on both of their biggest games, the mobility their characters have.
Jett was a problem because of her dash/off angles, Chamber is a problem because of his tp/off angles, Omen was a problem at the start because of his ult, Raze with the satchels, so many things that were a problem got kinda solved but still feel overpowered.
We get that the OP and the sheriff feel overpowered in high elo (I'm not high elo, hardstuck d1), but the tp is the thing that I feel is more annoying, because even if he gets a good 1st kill, the fact that you then have to guess if he is still in the same spot peeking or he teleported elsewhere in an instant, it feels tiring, manily because it's not like you just "jump peek" to get a fast check, it's the fact that HAVE to do it, over and over again until you are certain that he is not there.
At least Jett's dash was more predictible since you knew she needed kills to get it back, so if you play something with a flash, you knew she was gonna be in the same spot peeking after she dashes.
He was though, if a certain character is a must pick in every valorant match wouldn't that be unbalanced? He outshined other sentinels which isn't balanced at all.
@@MonkeH_ he's not a sentinel, really. Riot could just make him a duelist.
@@dio3321 even if we make him a duelist, I feel like he'd still get picked, it doesnt solve the overpicking of his character.
For the people saying he's a duelist, as a Chamber main, I feel handicapped on chamber when I'm on attack in MOST situations. Not ALL but MOST. Chambers TP has no FORWARD movement potential opposed to maybe a Yoru that can send his TP in a specific direction without taking that space. If Chamber has a TP somewhere, that means he or his team has already TAKEN that space. He can't make space, but he can get picks (in attacker spawn lol). Chamber can't do what duelists do. With a Raze or Jett, you have a lot more in your kit to entry (cause you're a duelist lmfao)
If I wanted to do the same thing as Jett or Raze, I'd have to literally run all the way up ex. B Long on Icebox (meaning I already took that space with my team and was safe enough to take the time to SET UP MY ABILITY). I wouldn't be able to do this alone while leading my team (entrying) cause my kit simply isn't built for it (I'll explain why shortly). I'd need team support, and I'd need someone on the frontlines for me.
Entrying is a duelists/flexible initiators job. I've told you I would need help or space to set up my TP in an effective spot to get value, so I should probably tell you why I believe/think this. First though, let's talk about this key mechanic of Chamber's kit. If I were to have my TP down, and was in need of using it, I would (cause who wouldn't?). The thing with how is TP works is, I can only TP to places my team has TAKEN CONTROL OF (the whole basis of my argument lol). If anything, he's the opposite of a duelist because in this scenario I'm TPing BACKWARDS, and GIVING UP SPACE (the opposite of a duelist!). It's not like I can just throw a smoke down and dash forward into it and create space (the job of a duelist.. ex. Jett)
Now onto why Chambers kit isn't built to entry frag. If I were to try and play Chamber like Jett and actually ENTRY on let's say B Long on Icebox AGAIN (Haven A and C Long Work Too), I'd have to lead my whole team, be at the front of the pack (like a duelist is supposed to be) and run all the way up B Long and somehow find the time to tuck away my gun, set up my TP, and pull out my gun again to maybe get some shots off. Once again, this is all happening while my whole team is behind me waiting and expecting me to do something (cause I'm the entry fragging duelist that everyone says I am, right!?!). The biggest thing we need to understand as players is, Chamber players HAVE to SET UP their ability to get any value out of it.
Moving on, if you're still not convinced, let's say I survive doing a whole ass set up while entrying for my team simultaneously (very unlikely). This means I don't get shot up while full sprinting toward site while spending some of that time running while setting my TP up (the equivalent of holding a KNIFE out cause I can't fight back with a TP in my hands!). Once again, even if it all works out, and I make it on site, I'll do the opposite of a duelists job. I'll end up placing my TP just outside main (B Yellow on Icebox) and another one deeper into B Long that I can fallback onto. When I use teleport, I'm still falling back and GIVING UP SPACE (the opposite of a duelist).
No matter the way you phrase it, he's not a duelist. What I have to do to entry has NO resemblance to a duelist, and it's nowhere NEAR as effective even if it does work out (rarely does). Chamber is NOT a duelist. Viewing him as one is honestly one of the dumbest perspectives I've ever heard. A Chamber entrying is as handicapped as a Jett that for some reason HAS to hold a knife while preparing its dash and running down a long sightline. The reason I say Jett would have to hold her knife out is because Jett prepping her dash, and Chamber finding a place to place his TP is a very similar situation, except for one key thing. Chamber has to tuck away his weapon, place down a teleport, and then teleport BACKWARDS. Jett can just prep her dash, keep her weapon out and dash freely whenever and wherever she sees fit.
Moving on, when I do get on site, THAT'S where I can do some work! When we're on site, and we've taken space! I can set up my TP, maybe place a trip CT or near bomb for free intel/stall if it's not already flank. He provides the same/similar things as/to a sentinel, just with some extra spice. Sentinels are post plant, flank watching, stalling agents.
Also, you can read this if you want to, just strengthens more of why Chamber isn't built for entry, but I believe I've already said enough for most to agree. If you're one of the few that don't, here you are:
There's a lot of spots in the map that you have to place your TP AFTER the spawn barriers go down to get any IMMEDIATE value. You can't have setups like when you're on defense (the job of a sentinel! I know, crazy!). Whenever you have to place your TP down after spawn barriers come down to go for a peak, any enemies that are remotely close can hear you doing that. You essentially instantly throw the other team intel on WHERE you are, and WHO you are. Chambers TP is literally a circle with only so much radius (it's even smaller now). That's why you have to again TAKE SOME SPACE, and then place it in a place you can actually peak from to get any immediate value. For example, look at the attacker side spawn barriers when pushing A Hall on Fracture. If you want to use your TP to try and go for a quick peak and get a pick there, you can't just place it in your spawn area. You have to move up, take the entrance of the site, then place it down, and THEN get some shots off. As mentioned before, this results in the enemy team pinpointing exactly where you are, and who you are (if they have half a brain) Think about a defending Chamber. He can just do a set up, in the buy phase, and the attackers definitely can't hear that. He's a Sentinel. A defensive sided agent. Period.
Side Note: He's definitely an oppressive agent on defense. I agree there 100%. Isn't that his job though? He's a Sentinel. The only decent Sentinel!
Chamber mains trying to argue why Chamber should be buffed
@@SerendipitousProvidence When did I say that?
As someone who has had a pc for a week and loves chamber I still feel like a better nerf is needed simply making his tp kill based would be better that way the kill tp combo is harder to use as much and since the kill takes place before the tp out it won’t count towards recharging the ability
Thing is that the kill recharge system is reserved for duelists
Imagine chamber needs to see his tp to get it like cypher on his camera
I still stand by the statement of "Pro players may play the game a lot but they shouldn't be balancing it" the only reason why chamber was picked so much is because every other agent was "Nerfed because of Pro players" jett was Nerfed, Kj was Nerfed, astra was Nerfed, raze was Nerfed. All these nerfed agents would be built to deal with chamber, if they weren't nerfed because of Pro players
Same. I hate it when Prop Players are treated like gods. If the feature isnt fun at its current state then balance it. Not brcause a slightly better person is being inconvenienced.
@@BunnyChamberX I mean atleast on some level you need to cater to pros, since they are the forefront of your game who bring in alot of new players. If your game isn’t optimized for the pros then the pros will leave and that will lower the player count etc.
You literally named the nerfs that didn't have much of an effect on containing chamber. The real way to counter him are the initiators who have been nerfed. It's those nerfs that allow chamber to run wild. A longer sova drone makes chamber holding off angles alot harder. More breach/skye flashes would also help. I don't understand how you think jett kj astra and raze are the agents that counter him.
@@aminyapussi4740 Kj nerfs make it so she couldn't compete with chamber, Raze can nade him and force him out of position, jett had the speed to outmaneuver chamber, astra also denies space with one single star. Think before you say that the nerfs didn't have an affect on the power level of chamber. The roster is weak as shit, chamber was just a good character
@@Clarkwater KJ wasn't ever supposed to compete with chamber. Chamber is a sentinel only in name and obviously fill a very different role. Jett and Astra needed the nerfs. Raze nerfed happened way before chamber came out and is in a healthy power level now. If you think any of these 4 agents are undertuned you are seriously delusional. You seem to have the perspective of a player who have never gotten higher than diamond. The main problem is chamber not having a significant enough nerf to him after they nerfed sova and most of the controllers. Before then he was bad but not as bad as he is now.
I think it's amazing how pros can easily become cryababies with their pacifiers to the point where they're begging for Riot to nerf Chamber. He was in a good place before the nerfs. These pros were mad that they keep getting killed. Just get good. That on you if you just suck. Gosh.
There's already a nerf to that agent infact there's a nerf to every agent
"U are powerless"
Controversial Opinion: Chamber needs to be buffed again after 5.12. Hear me out, just restore his 2 trademarks or 1 with infinite range. Giving him the 2nd tps would just be too OP.
He rarely felt oppressive in gold, plat elo before the nerfs, even when it was a good chamber main, hitting shots. The only thing annoying was his tp cooldown being low and thus hard to punish. I think people are over reacting quite a bit with this "looking back" type of analysis
Edit: to this day, every chamber is broken video this channel puts out is just a chamber hitting good shots and rarely has anything to do with his kit. If this is your argument then show us him using his TP or trip which were genuinely opressive
chamber helped me a lot, he helped me to get from Unrated to Iron 2, I can never help him enough
"Te AgEnt THaT rUinEd VaLulRaNt 🤓"
In conclusion, Chamber has Operator in Marshal speed.
Agent : Is fun to play
Riot : This agent RUINED valorant
Chamber's sheriff / ult - Jett's Ult make SPIKE RUSH not as fun when everyone has shorties, and then you just get shot in the face from across the map. I don't know why Riot doesn't take this into account because its breaks that game mode.
Riot will never provide any love to any gameodes other than ranked and unrated
they did make it to 4 bullets from 8
long time ago
and you're not suppose to peek across the map angles with a shorty ig
so kill the teleports? I mean it seems to be the main problem. Make them require two kills, have a very long cool down or straight up replace them with something more sentinel-y
Riot Games is usually very good at ruining their own games with poorly _designed_ characters
Yeah, Chamber is overpowered, but ruining the game? Not at all
Chamber meta is the one of the most fun we've ever had since double duelist
I would pick extra buffed Chamber any day over the disgusting Astra meta, that made pro play absolutely unwatchable and ranked so boring
Hot take: people who are frustrated with the chamber situation should learn to use util or find another game to play. He can be very good, but I think it helps keep the game competitive. Chamber should be the gold standard for character design. Hes a character that rewards aim and planning with the rendevous. Saying he ruined the game is a stretch. I think he forces players to learn how to play the game at a higher level and the next few agents they release will have strong play styles and be called broken as well. and if you really think he's that bad, play KAYO and detain him (use util to force him to give up positioning). Real gold mentality to say he RUINED the game because you have to think a bit more about how you play around him.
I think the only thing that makes him broken is he can switch from his util weapons back to his main and then back to his util weapons, once he switches out it should count as used
"This guy has a f*cking marshall as his ultimate!" HAHAHAHAHA
You guys need to stfu, agent is literally about skill and aim, 2 of his kit are aim based and the other 2 are worthless without the aim,
Chamber only seems powerful as an agent is because of his mains, no one’s gonna pick chamber if he has bad aim and game sense,
Chamber is only powerful because of his mains. Period.
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This is true that you need to be pretty good to do well as chamber but the problem is that if you are good at aim and gamesense he is just way too powerful of an agent in my opinion
They literally said that any player can pick up chamber and do some damage with him. His awp requires almost no aim and if you miss with it than you can shoot again almost instantly. There is a reason why almost the whole community wants him nerfed.
@@dumbozach
Lets say you have bad aim, and you decided to play chamber, congratulations, you now have only 2 abilities because the head hunter is useless, and you can’t really make use of the teleport if you can’t secure a kill within 4 bullets shot, so you basically have 1, its your trademark which’s pretty helpful but not that great
And as for your ult , you must secure 8 ult points to get , lets say you magically kill 8 people or collected 8 ult points,
Now you have an op that shoots as fast as a marshal , but only has 5 bullets , so you cant miss much, you kill people with it, and that what an ult does, it’s supposed to kill , like jetts knives or raze rocket launcher, it’s literally doing what it’s supposed to do
@@razaqaldulimi1385 head hunter is definitely not useless, it is the most overpowered weapon on pistols rounds. So even if you only hit body shots, you still can get some kills fairly easily. Also, I’m not saying that a brand new player can pick up chamber instantly, they obviously couldn’t, I’m saying that a player who has player valorant for a little bit can use chamber fairly effectively. Also, hitting 4 body shots with a vandal isn’t exactly hard, so you can use the tp. Plus, ults aren’t always used for kills, they can scare people off of site. So yes, chamber is overpowered