JORDAN vs SOUNESS 🤬 | Erik ten Hag's Treatment of Cristiano Ronaldo!
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- Are football fans and the media being too harsh on Manchester United forward Cristiano Ronaldo? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Graeme Souness discuss!
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If Pogba done that, Souness would’ve gone mental lmao
But Pogba is not Ronaldo....
YESSS exactly!
@@delboy013 Whats your point?
Yawn. Move on
Pogba is not Ronaldo......Pogba has been really unprofessional since day 1 at juve
What an answer from Souness 'I don't know what the bench felt like' 🤣
top class player souey legend
@@ss-dz8fv dirty player
@@Dave-nq6uy Dirty could be world class at the time
if i scored as many goals as ronaldo has in his career i would expect to be treated differently from other players too
Proper flexing but Souness was brilliant
Ronaldo talked about losing a child, he talked about his daughter being hospitalised. The media doesn't care about his family issues and concentrate on just one wrong side
All you say did not stop him from going training at sporting did it if he could go there and train he could h@ve gone to United and trained, also us poor mortals who lose a loved one have to turn up for work the day after we have commitments so does ronaldo when I lost my father at 21 I had to be at work the day after, I was the breadwinner
@@davidc9171 certainly you don't know what CR did after his dady pass way. Check that first and then you can talk with all the facts.
And since 2006-07, CR is even more important then the man utd. Why I'm saying that?? Look for his 🏆 ⚽️🥇
They're just hating the dude pointlessly.
I'm with cr7
@@davidc9171 That’s tough but you could have taken some time off . If your work didn’t understand or sympathise than you should have found another job and so should Ronaldo find another team !
@@svoukidis in todays world yes ime talking about 1957
You earn my respect Graeme.. Bravo standing your ground
If Pogba did this, Graeme would be calling for him to be deported "back to where he came from". Ronaldo storms out of games are being subbed and Graeme's like, "Dear, dear, precious, come here...". Pathetic pandering.
I Agree Totally with Graeme
I can't understand how all media/pundits have forgotten CR7 lost a new born son, it has to be a factor, has to have effected him.
Fair point.
And his baby girl was hospitalised for a long time. That's why he wasn't part of the pre-season tour
Excellent point
he specifically states this in the interview that he expressed this and they did not care.
@@magegeneral6988 Seen that, so defo a factor.
Funny enough in 2017/2018 Zidane rested Ronaldo a lot that season, there were matches Ronaldo was benched but there was mutual respect between Zidane and Ronaldo.
Agreed, and it’s because Zidane proved to be a man of his word. He knows what it’s like to coach and be coached at an elite club. ETH with all his “experience, values and morals” hasn’t the slightest clue how to manage at the elite level. He violated the two most important core values: honesty and trust.
@@3chenteruiz None of us can comment on Ten Hag’s honesty because none of us know what was said between him and Ronaldo. All you’re basing that on is what Ronaldo says. That’s only one side of the argument.
@@sotiriosnovatsis4529 Actions speak louder than words, my friend. Ronaldo asked to leave in the last transfer window because of what he foresaw for the club. There is a reason the Glazers are looking to sell the club; in time, ManU will come to show what Mourinho and Ronaldo have mentioned regarding poor decisions and poor football heritage. Zlatan and Alexis Sanchez have said the same thing. Di María flopped and die-hard ManU fans yelled at the top of their lungs that the club was too big for them. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds considering the clubs they played and won for?! The events speak for themselves.
@@3chenteruiz Ronaldo will always have a place in my heart, but you're right...the events do speak for themselves: poor form all year, disobeying the manager, storming into the changerooms during matches, unauthorised interview. The evidence is all there. Yes, there is a reason the Glazers are selling: because they ruined the club. And Ronaldo is not ignorant; he knew what he was getting into when he signed. The others left because the coaches were going nowhere. Ten Hag has already shown that slowly and surely he is actually turning this team around.
@@sotiriosnovatsis4529 Poor form all year? He managed to be a top-scorer with arguably the worst ManU side in the last 20 years. If you want to point to an event that impacted his form: the passing of his child. You’d need to be ignorant or cruel to dismiss that fact.
Compound on that ETH’s need to make an example of him with the younger players. What little success he had with Ajax depended on having a young, impressionable squad. That’s who he is, a coach for the youth, not the elite.
The best managers look for the best way to get the most out of their top-players, and he hasn’t been able to do that. Time will tell.
finally someone coming out to give CR7 some justice! Thank you Souness!
Pure nonsense!!
@@ruddock7 Nope, justice!
@@soccerstar282 nonsense. Who cares if he was one of the best, he isn't anymore and even the Portuguese manager benched his ass, a pattern is emerging!!
@@ruddock7 BS and you know it!
justice in Saudi League
I actually agree with Souness on this. There was obviously a conversation at the beginning of the season.. there's no way Ronaldo would of agreed to stay unless he was told he starts.
He had no option.. the club didn’t wanna sell their cash cow.. Ronaldo didn’t turn up to pre season
"I don't know what the bench felt like" Touche Souness lol.
Jim looking like a proud father when Simon comes in 😂
He has been best mates with Souness for more than half a century (and praises him for helping him to get sober) so not sure your comment makes any sense...
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Nobody said it's personal lol, Id think it's that deep
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Your taking it a bit too close to heart I think, Remember this is a radio show and nothing brings in more views than conflict, They all calm down at the exact same point and know when enough is enough, It shows a good relationship, Means they can agree to disagree, something most people cant do lool
@@robwright1286 When did I say it was deep?
@@TetraDizzle eh? That was the exact point I made. He wasn't acting like a proud father. He was laughing because his mate was getting mocked.
Taking what too close to heart? Lol
The fact is that Ronaldo is now in a stage of life which every CR7 hater was waiting for throughout their lives......
Truer words were never said!!
37 years old and scored more goals than Harry Kane last season, that stage?
@@drewphillip2043 people won't understand that.....they just find ways to hate
@@drewphillip2043 yes and with that team....full of problems.
Portugal just won. Ronaldo was there when needed and scored. Haters left the chat.. Ronaldo did it this time and he will do it again. With good players around him, he will do it again and again untill he says himself it's enough I'm done hasta la vista.
Cristiano will be remembered forever. No matter what you think what you say he is one of the best . Forever Cristiano 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It seems that Ten Hag was told by the owners or their reps to convince Ronaldo to stay at all costs due to, I assume, marketing purposes, even if he was not going to use Ronaldo.
That's exactly the case, I assume too.
On point.Both Ten Häagen-Dazs and Ronaldo being used and they both getting washed,rung and hung to dry my media.
Al Nassr more rich then other
What graeme is saying is not difficult to understand whether you are Ronaldo's fan or not. But this guy Simon just love his own voice so much and never stop arguing with everyone.
Yep.. that's why he is paid!
What? Souness creates a completely hypothetical scenario he has no idea ever happens In order for his argument to work at all. Absolute drivel
Hahaha it's true.
So even if he is playing to the teams detrement,you still play because you had a conversation?
nah it's pretty difficult to understand, in fact to understand it he has to imagine a hypothetical conversation where ten hag lied to rapenaldo, but then when confronted with how ridiculous that conjecture is, he chalks it up to "poor decisions" (despite suggesting ten hag would make the Perfect and Necessary decision two months prior). it's horseshit imagination to carry water for a billionaire man-baby who probably doesn't know 6 x 7. rapenaldo has been crap this season, got benched for it, threw a tantrum because he's never willing to hear "no" (that's why he assaulted those women).
In 5 years time no one will remember Ten Haag.... but remember Ronaldo instead.....so true😇
Where's ronaldo now?
I think Simon has found his calling. He can talk as much as he likes, and his contribution to the game is his opinion. Just like the rest of us. As regards to actually being involved in football this is a God send. Can you imagine listening to him if he was an owner? Talksport is his level.
You gotta ask yourself where was Pogba in all of this? 😂
OG Souness at it again 😂
What did Souness say that wasn't true?
@@ianofliverpool7701 several things he said were not true.
for a start: "Ronaldo wanted to leave because he wasn't playing."
Doesn't make any sense, since he wanted to leave before the season started, and last season he played plenty. He wanted to leave to keep his CL goal-tally up.
Graham: I've played the...
Simon: don't start all that crap again
😂
Cuz a guy who’s never been in that position has the strongest opinion
Is that middle presenter on coke? He is very highly strung and twitching like a raving loon.
He didn’t just play. He’s one of the greatest mid fielders to play the game.
@@jinshin3871 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@asher0121birmzz football wasn’t invented in 1992. Souness won the league 5 times and the European cup 3 times and captained arguably the best British side of all time. He was one the best Midfielders of his generation.
This guy on the right. Is the man. Respect.
Why would there have been a discussion about playing time. I would have thought everyone would assume Ronaldo would play, but then he wanted to leave and missed the whole pre-season. Then it’s taken him time to get fully fit, and he’s not having great performances really but will get there. Ten Hag is doing a good job. Ronaldos always having a moan whatever club he’s in and that’s fine. He’s still going to play and score goals, the rest of his game has just faded that a all. He more of a moments player now who will get himself into good positions in the box.
Thank you! The most balanced talk I have heard about this situation. No one supports the behavior but seriously some problem was bound to come up with the way Man U board and ETH has handled Ronaldo. If he did not walk out, trust me something bigger along the was bound to come up. Maybe, he would have one day woken up and said I am not appearing in training. This is a Problem of their own making
Because no team came in for Ronaldo, it's United's fault? Because Ronaldo decided to miss all of pre-season, and has been poor throughout every game he's played in, it's United's fault? Clever analysis there dude 👍
@@thegloriouspbd9038 It's not my analysis. Listen to the debate my guy. Some Fans really lack objectivity. How can you not see sense in the debate they are having
What are you talking about Kelvin?, he try to leave but no one wanted him, for all we know ten hag probably said goodbye but he couldn't find a club so this is all Graham souness mouthing off.
@@thegloriouspbd9038 ikr, some people don't actually think before commenting.
@@MugiKelvin are being stupid on purpose?, I listened to ever word, it's all if's and but's, they know nothing about anything at United.
Thank you Graham, you have reassured me Tan Hag is on the right track.
😂
It's graeme
@@graemeblack9963 Got it, sorry, Graeme it is. Even United non fans deserve their proper name.
Haha true
“He must’ve said something to convince him to stay” or maybe offers never came...
Graham roasting everyone love this guyyyyy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That "well get there then!" From Simon towards the end had me creasing lmao
"Im not playing enough" The season hadn't even started when Ronaldo wanted to leave and he didn't turn up for pre season so thats not a reason
Ten hag also said CR7 is in his plans & doesn't intend to let him go in January 🤔 so why lie to him if you knew you are not going to use him often
@@Daniel_ss4 How do you know what he's said to Ronaldo behind the scenes. Ronaldo was allowed to leave in summer but no one wanted to pay his salary
@@MeChoonChannel watch clips of ten hag interview's few weeks ago & also in the summer in july
@@Daniel_ss4 Public interviews. Of course he's not going to publicly say "We tried to get rid of Ronaldo but no big club wants him, so now we're stuck with him"
Poor cryaldo it's all about me, rot in the reserves
wonderful words from that paragon of tolerance and understanding, and successful managerial career, Graham Sourness.
Yeah and in all honesty he would’ve been justified telling those two muppets to shut up and listen.
These two are great together!!
Let's not be naive. United had decided Ronaldo wasn't going anywhere before Ten Hag was even a factor in the conversation.
But he only didn't leave because his agent couldn't find him a suitable club
@@MD_ENTERTAINMENT correct, out of the very few european clubs that could afford United's asking price + Ronaldo's wages.
Ronaldo should have taken that record-breaking wage offer and moved to the middle east, but he's too obsessed with the CL.
EtH never planned his team around Ronaldo, because he didn't expect him to be there in the first place.
If he REALLY wants to Play, he could go to Napoli or back to Sporting. Why didn't he do that ? You see it's not United who created this mess in the first place. He could have committed to the Club earlier in pre season but he bailed and wanted to leave. United and The Fans weren't expecting that.
It was Ronaldo who disrespected Ten Hag and The Club. If he is a Professional he should offer a formal apology and sort this all out.
United is building a New Team the whole team and it CANNOT be centred on one individual be it an exceptional one who is more committed on his career rather than The Club.
To me he should apologize and be professionally fully committed for this season and think about his options next season.
Ten Hag WILL play him in many games like he did in The Europa League and recently against Newcastle. This is how he can leave his legacy to The Future of The Club not running away.
@@amenstal123 I wish I could give this comment multiple likes. Apt.
And if he wasn't there last season would your sorry ass team be playing in the Europa league now?, maybe by now ManUtd would be playing for the pl qualification. This is just how bad you were last season
Jim Whites reaction when Simon called Souness talking about "when you haven't been in the dressing room" crap, was just priceless 😂🤣
his baby girl was hospitalised for a long time. That's why he wasn't part of the pre-season tour and he got blamed for not being there! Disrespect and disconnect from United staff and management is huge and i dont know what happend or whats going on. U just don't disrespect player like Ronaldo like that... lets be fair Ter Hag is clever fox and is trying to find empathy from United fans , so he stays out of blame. Ronaldo is 37years old and he wanted to finish his last years with UNITED, btw did we all forget that he was main top scorer last year for ManU ?
Souness is right, that is why the club finds itself in the position it does with Ronaldo now. Ten Hag is not stupid, he knows the owners are interested in selling Ronaldo merchandise and didn't want him to leave when he asked last summer, so one week he has too much respect for him and the next he is insulting him by sending him on for a few minutes in a game already won. He deliberately provoked him, he's a coach, he knows a man with an enormous pride would react in a way that way get him fired and out of his hair.
In that case CR7 needs to grow a pair and man up!!
@@ruddock7 he did. It's Ten Hag who needs to man up.
Graham is absolutely on point.
no his not
Souness is basing his argument on an imaginary conversation!!
No he ain mate
🤡
Ten hag isn’t to blame..souness is a muppet.
“I don’t know what the bench felt like” 😂😂
In Graeme’s day they didn’t have benches they sat on the grass
Totally agree with Graham’s 👏👏
"The best timing, is my timing"
~CR7
Ten Hag's doing well, that's the only important thing here. He's in charge and can pick the players he wants. End of.
Then why not bring him on against city?
All that is fine but for him to call Rashford performances great while he is unhappy with Ronaldo performances without giving him a run in the first team, that's where the bs begins.
well ? cant beat weak teams
@@jalberto428 He is the manager not Ronaldi
Ten is stupid 😊😊 he will miss ronaldo suii
I'm not a CR fan boy. But in the summer he lost a child. I can understand that he didn't want to turn up
See these animals! don't see how something so heartbreaking 😳 can affect Ronaldo actions. 😳
everyone knows this but are happy to still put the boot in.
lol! he not the only one that lost a child. other lost a child . you didnt see them not turning up for work dont ya?
@@thomasfookingshelby5701 a genius right here
Other people lose children, wives, husbands and are still expected to show up to work at the bare minimum. Just because of his statist doesn’t mean less should be expected. He was given his compassionate leave. The big issue was how long he took to request a transfer, knowing the clubs circumstances, and not accepting the one offer that came in for him when it did
"No-one is bigger than the team" Quote from the greatest manager that ever did the job! Maybe ETH has played this beautifully to make himself stronger. From an MU fan, Goodbye CR7 and thanks for the good times.
Please don't compare Ten hole with Sir Alex Ferguson. Ten hole is not prove something yet bro.
@@romaldocorreia6631 I didn't compare, I quoted! SAF was the best! CR7 is past his prime, an egotist that cannot face reality and destroying the team spirit that ETH is creating. We cannot live in the past but must always face the future! This whole subject has become toxic and all about CR7 and as good as he has been he is putting himself above the team and the manager which is very unprofessional. He makes more money in a month than I can make in a lifetime and cries like a baby throwing toys out of his pram! MUFC have always shown respect to him and this is how he returns the respect!
Exactly Souness. They would have let him go.
The board wanted to keep Ronaldo. Ten Haag didn't.
yep. Exactamindo.
Amazing no one openly said it, even though Simon said it was something else
Yep. Ten haag knew that he wasn't going to fit the style of play he wanted.
The board were likely thinking about shirt sales etc
A 13 minute video is summed up with this one definitive answer
Absolutely spot on!
Ronald need compilation
He need where he can compit, but United are not giving him the chance, so he need to find way to go.
We need to see him back computing again, he still have more to increase on his title 💜💜💜
Gobbledegook
I like Graeme's composure. He has very valid points on Ronaldo(Empathy)...... Bravo for standing with Ronaldo.
I love how Souness says "i would have never done that as a Manager" yet he was a manager who ran on a pitch and stuck a flag in the centre circle of thier biggest rivals to nearly start a riot.
he shouldn't talk about football management he failed himself
It DID start a riot lol
@@TSF15152 he just managed the world's most successful football team, won the EPL and won 3 European Cups.
Wouldn't mind being as shite a manager as him, personally.
Don't forget when he also managed Newcastle and Lee Bowyer Vs Kieron Dyer happened
@@vegvisirphotography5632 Are you talking about Souness? He never won the 'EPL' as a manager or a player. He did manage Liverpool but only managed to win the FA Cup if I remember correctly. He won 3 European Cups as a player but he should never have been in that third final. He broke the jaw of an opposing player in the first leg of the semi-final which wasn't spotted by the referee. He played in an era where you didn't need much skill as a footballer to be successful. He wouldn't survive in todays game
"I dont know what the bench felt like"... Legend
@@RichardGambles only the 13 trophies
👌👍
Scouse bas****
He’s a clown! But a colossus of a player!!
@@bulliboyz yh only :S GAL
With a footballer with a stature that Ronaldo has, Manchester United from day one should’ve communicated their intentions about how they were going to use him moving forward. Rio Ferdinand said this and Graeme Souness is saying the same thing. If they had done that, Man U wouldn’t be in the situation they are in. Ronaldo was right to kick off in the way that he did.
That man with the Glasses is a politician. And the man on the right has Sportsmanship,,👍
Graeme is damn right, its all about the respect and stature of arguably the GOAT
No it isn't, it's about the team and only the team!!
So even if he is playing to the teams detrement,you still play because you had a conversation
a goat who could not run for 90 minutes,
Well done Graeme.. very professional ..
CR7 has emotions and he’s human being…..piers thanks for your support…..club owners and managers should reason on both sides and let’s hear from Ten Hag sides as well
"In 5 years, nobody will remember ten Hag." Souness at his finest.
Ronaldo announced that he wanted to leave MUFC in the summer; whether it be because he wanted to play for a club qualified for CL or for other reasons, it doesn't matter. He missed pre-season, and has caused problems for the club since. Erik ten Hag was employed to turn the team around and make them competitive, to install a new way of playing and changing [improving] the squad's mentality. Ten Hag was not employed to manage Ronaldo's last season of his contract but to mould the team into his vision. Ten Hag's focus isn't on one player, it is on the team. If Ronaldo starts a game, is benched, or is asked to come on at whatever time during a match, that is a decision that Erik ten Hag was employed to make, and one he will make with the team's performance, not based on the wishes of one single player. Keep it real.
💯💯💯
Yeah Ronaldo is the only one to blame for the situation he’s in. If he reported to pre season he would’ve had time to work with ten hag and build his fitness up. But because he wants to be a cry baby he basically went awol and has CLEARLY loss a lot of his overall game so much that it’s really sad to see, he just looks so much slower and predictable in his movements.
No club wanted CR, and he wanted to break his contract without him incurring a penalty. So he stayed.
No top club wanted his huge ego and his huge wages in the summer...he could have taken pay cut and gone back to Sporting..let's be honest, u don't build something long term paying a 37 yr old those kinda wages
Lets see if ten hag is such a visionary, is he? Let see he can finish 4th or 5th. Lets see, goal scoring at last minute from a midfield defender does not sound a very good result or game play visionary lets wait maybe he effectively wins trophys like ronaldo have , or at least one to be a mini visionary
You know, there’s been so many “heated debates” on talk sport lately, it’s almost as if they’re being manufactured just for clicks 🤔
Agree and Jim White is the instigator,
Bang on the money!
Nah just put the right mix of people in the room and let them have at it.
Very nice video, I like the yellow background, but who is this Ronaldo they're talking about?
Souness is totally spot on.
The real issue for Ronaldo is that the guys playing ahead of him arent producing goals and he knows he is BETTER than them. If Rashford, Sancho, and the boys were actually scoring goals i dont think Ronaldo could have an argument for playing more. But when hes watching them do NOTHING while he rides the pine, HELL YEAH hes pissed to not be playing.
Problem is neither is he. He had plenty of chances this season but the whole attack collapsed with him as the focal point. Exactly the reason why none of the big clubs in europe wanted him this summer.
Ronaldo still very better off in front. France Played a Giroud who had no shot on target all through the competition and still won the cup. Football is about taking up roles and doing it well. Last season, Ronaldo was a saviour, but you'll not realize this because we still had half chance to play Europa league because of the goals he scored. Manchester united are purely ungrateful, Ronaldo is also not right for not been able to hide his feelings on some issues; but thats his way after all.
"In 5 years' time no one will remember ten Hag."
You sure about that? 😂
Yes. No one will
@@Theh0pe we all will remember him, and hopefully he'll still be united's Manager
@@simondavid5788 as another failed manager
@@abhijithp2533 he’ll be remembered longer than you, pleb.
Yes, it is true. He will be buried in the black book of MU.
Cristiano has earnt the right to be treated as a special player. He is not just a player what that man has achieved in his life so far will be remembered and loved by millions into the future.
No player has the right to be picked otherwise nobody would be competing for places, Ronaldo has not been playing good enough to be picked,
Never listen to what people say. Watch their actions. If Ten Hag really wanted Ronaldo. He would play him more
8:03 LEGENDARY response😭🤣😂
He didn't say he don't want him to leave, he said he is an important part of his team.
Yeah, he used him to keep him in the bench
@@queroemigrar4154 well United need a bench warmer 😂
He is on a power trip, it will bite him in 🍑
Define important
@@queroemigrar4154 be honest if u were the new manager trying to avoid the media would you have try to force out a player considered a legend at the club u manage?
Jim and Simon were so emotional here
It's obvious for everyone not obsessed with Ronaldos' status that he's invited himself to the bench. He missed pre season under a shady "family needs" pretence, in the quest to find a new club. In doing so, he gave Ten Hag all the more power to use him as he's more valuable atm - an impact player you bring on to score in the last 15/20 minutes. It's a shame Keane has such double standards for his friends and himself (Ireland 2002, United fall out).
He didn’t want to leave because he wasn’t getting played he wanted to play ucl and ten hag was open to ronaldo leaving but the glazers didn’t want him to go because he’s a huge commercial asset
Ronaldo was playing every game last season only missing games through injury and managers resting him he would shrug and leave early while on the bench he can’t accept being on the bench end of
@@wooxemman4252 exactly , against city game out of respect come on !!! and then telling him to come on 81 min ..hahaha
Ten Hag said he wanted him. The glazers didn't force him. Ten Hag probably thought Ronaldo wasn't a problem and he wanted both Martial and Rashford to understudy him. But what's happening is that Ten Hag probably refused to listen to McLaren and benni that Ronaldo can't be tamed.
Yep. He created all that hassle pre season by declaring he wanted to leave. Slagging off united and their direction/ambition. He made it very clear he didn't want to be there.
As a result ETH has decided that he doesn't want someone who doesn't want to be there, someone with a bad attitude and he doesn't deserve to play. He's spot on. Ronaldo is one of the greatest but his attitude and ego has always been a problem
Disingenuous and preposterous Ronaldo could have left in May if he soooo wanted UCL it’s British media that reports this fake news and bias Brit’s
Ronaldo wanted to leave before Tenhag was in charge…he was playing every game before
What club genuinely made a bid for him?
Not rumors
Not plans
An actual bid
Ronaldo pre-season: MU won't let me leave. Ronaldo now: They wanted me out even since last season. So which one is it? If you can forward us the email memo you got from Ronaldo himself, it would be nice.
Simple... He lost a son, had a daughter hospitalized, his wife depressed (most likely him as well), asked for time with his family and the direction doubted him.
Everyone's thoughts keep glossing over this reality... Including this panel of non bias pundits.
Lack of respect at all levels... I don't even have to mention the credit that the best scorer ever should have received.
8:05 "I don't know what the bench feels like" loooool
So when team started to recover and play better someone always find another problem
You can argue which way you want but you can't deny that Simon is disrespectful.
Yea, I bet he was punched many times in his youth.
He really isn’t lmao, not even close.
Jordan is a little harsh at times, that's why I love listening to him though.
Don't let CR7 know.. he'll ignore him!!
My thoughts exactly.. there is no point in debating with someone who has made up his or her mind. He just came prepared for gun fight.
I would like to see Roy Keane and Simon debate once in my life😅😅
Imagine Simon and a guy like Ben Shapiro had to get into an argument. The room would explode.
simon would call roy an imbicel
Simon and Mark Goldbridge
Simon would smoke him lol
Imagine Simon vs Alex Jones 🤣🤣🤣
Graeme, you re very much on point and it isn't your problem that those two other pundits don't understand football... Now CR7 has gone, am looking forward to the next scape goat that the British media will make of....
Yes, of course Ronaldo should not have walked off, but Ten Hag should have avoided the situation by (as Ferguson always did) proper communication before the matches. This was not the first time Ronaldo has been disrespected. A good coach should not spring surprises. Both Ronaldo and Ten Hag need to learn from this. I agree with the comments of Keane, Ferdinand and Kevin Petersen.
One man stands to lose his job when Man Utd loses. His decisions are the only ones that matters
In a nutshell. Imaginary pre-season conversation between Ten Hag and Ronaldo only happened in Souness` head. Ronny wasn`t in Manchester pre-season. But sadly for all concerned, nobody else wanted him. Ten Hag wanted an applied Ronaldo, not the two year old strop.
100%
@@1KJO you literally make no sense
@@tg007ful Ronaldo was going on strike staying and training in Sporting Lisbon training facilities… Glazers wanted a fee ( which they are entitled tho im glazers out)…. to balamce thta ronaldo could have taken a paycut to leave and compensate for his fees, but he thought otherwise
Imprtant players receive important attention, otherwise any dumb Coach could bench sallah, Ronaldo, haaland, lewandoski etc... And destroy their season and carer just cause he is the manager. As usual we Blame on Ronaldo but Manchester Will go nowhere after he leaves
Have a swig of vodka every time Simon says “stupid” 😂
Can’t remember if Grahame mentioned the conversation at the start of the season🤣
United board said in my option they’ve seen the shirt sales and market spike and said no way we need to keep him
Thank you Simon! But it was probably the glazers that wanted him to stay, not Ten Hag.
Joel Glazer didn't want to sell Ronaldo.
Very good point where no one has mentioned
glazers only signed CR7 to raise their share price
I doubt Ten Hag wanted to keep him but had too because they're short on strikers, ETH hasn't taken the job to be undermined by the hierarchy. Martial is injury prone, Rashford is poor & can't play every game & Greenwood is all but gone. It doesn't make footballing sense to let ronaldo leave without a replacement.
Jim's face here is GOLD. 😅😅
The show wouldn’t work without Jim, he knows exactly the way to ask a question to get a good reaction. He drops them like hand grenades 😂
Jim was not having it😂 he's a man of principles and stands by them!
Souness 🤝🏾👏🏾👏🏾first time he hasn’t said one thing wrong
Yes as Mr Roy Keane,great and balanced thinkers,with healthy mindsets
Souness says all...
Love how Souness wouldn’t have ended up in the situation as Ten Hag, but Souness was the manager that signed a fake player 😂
Hahaha! 🤣🤣🤣 Simon nailed it, Souness is thick!
For once Souness is actually speaking facts i agree with him 100%
@@phemelotlhomelang4670 don't agree at all, Souness makes valid points, Simon is a typical club owner
@@djlevinyl1 how is he correct? His whole point is that ‘an unhappy ronaldo is a big big problem’ - how is Ronaldo being unhappy a problem for Utd right now? They are literally better without him
@@samwize28 how are they? This is some bs everybody is spouting but did utd lose at brentford 4 - 0 because of ronaldo or the rest of the team including maguire. Has ronaldo had the chance to get any form. Is rashford missing chance after chance? Didnt we just have a boring match and then get a last minute equaliser vs chelsea why are people acting like were some.amazing team all of a sudden. Casimero is in the team now which he wasnt when ronaldo played more earlier in the season. With them both in form and former teammates. Dont be silly , you think pressing is a big part if utds game then lets get rid of bruno because he cant tackle and is a defensive liability. Sancho has been trash why not rashford on the left ronaldo down the middle. Its a joke and youre deluded
Simon actually agreed, that the mythical conversation may have taken place, so he’s agreeing with him😂
Simon is a plonker. Souy has forgotton more about footbal than he ever knew
It may well have taken place and it may not but Souness is saying it as if it actually did happen and even if it did he can change his mind. You don't play someone if they are not performing just because of the name!!
I think that all these people criticising Ronaldo are all very ungrateful human beings. How in a hurry do people forget. Ronaldo is not just an ordinary player. For what he's done for the club, Manchester United should have bent some rules for him or better still meet him halfway.
100% Cristiano ronaldo..Long live Cristiano...Ronaldo...Forever...Ronaldo We love you more then Manchester United....
Souness 'I don't know what the bench felt like'. Brilliant.
@@andrewgibson9043 Doubt it - in that era teams didn't have the large squads they have these days. I can see him being rested for less important games, but not dropped,
also a lie
@@andrewgibson9043 Any specific game(s)?
@@andrewgibson9043 no he didn’t he was one of the best midfielders in Europe and an important player for Liverpool
@@edwindsouza8816 he’s waffling souness was a first team player one of the best in his era
The disrespect with which Souness talks about ten Hag is out of order. Amazing how spiteful some old ex-players are about the success of current managers. Keane and Souness seem almost jealous that Ten Hag is the Utd manager and doing a good job. There is no rational position in which you defend Ronaldos behavior.
Saying no-one will remember him in the next 5 years? Haha. I cannot wait for the next 5 years under ten hag, he's brilliant and sourness will eat his words.
Doing a good job got smashed 6-3 by City a few weeks ago beat a Liverpool team in transition with a glut of injuries, a terrible spurs team.
Won't win amything.
@@rad6666 whenever Liverpool win or play well they’re amazing….yet when they have a run of bad games or are deservedly beaten by other teams they’re in transition.
@@rad6666 Klopp lost 7-2 to a team managed by Dean Smith...
@@rad6666 anyone could get smashed by city Liverpool was title contenders at the start of the season but now there in transition what you talking about spurs arnt a bad side we beat arsenal who are playing well and should of got the win at Chelsea if you can't see that ten hag is doing a better job than all other previous managers then you shunt be watching football and I don't know what souness is on about Ronaldo wanted to leave but no one wanted him or pay hes wage so he's stuck here at a team what he dunt wanna play for this is his fault not ten hags
So what's Souness point, that certain players should have more influence, well fair enough that'll happen I guess, but a
being treated differently? I wonder what he thinks of Mbappe and his power position at PSG..
a Win Win situation for both parties involved wouldve been to part ways before season begins...
We tried to sell him.
Simon and Jim are like my young kids. Always interrupting lol let him talk ffs 😂
I’m pretty sure ETH never made such commitments that he would start Ronaldo every games at the start of the season. The reason Ronaldo didn’t go away from MU is not cause of a conversation with ETH that convinced him to stay, the reason Ronaldo stayed is because he didn’t have any other options but to stay.
They real reason ronaldo didn't leave is because of the glazers
The move was blocked by the Glaziers. ETH surely knows Ronaldo would want a lot of games and would tell who's in his plans.
@@h4ksxx because they wanted a fee for him which they rightly can ask for, no one wanted to pay....no doubt if glazers said he could walk but they dont have to pay the remaining contract he'd of said no
@@citizensarrest8263 ☝️
idk man Roy Keane said he knew for a fact united recieved offers for ronaldo he even said 4 or 5 of them. so idk should I believe u and the sketchy reporting or should I believe roy Keane who seems to have a personal connection to ronaldo and the team 🤔
Ten Hag is a farmer. A peasant. We have a saying in the Netherlands which says: wat de boer niet kent vreet die niet.
Meaning what a peasant doesn't know he doesn't eat.
Look how he treated Casemiro compared to Anthony.
3:07 totally agree big man
THANK YOU GRAEME!! 🙏🏽
Love how SJ puts his foot on anyone's neck reckless enough to not make sense.
You are right. From the beginning CR7 wanted to leave. He wanted to prepare for the World Cup hence he wanted to be in the Champions League. Ten Hag must have convinced CR7 to stay and promised to play him every game. Ten Hag even said in interviews that he wanted CR7 because goals. He even said that they can give CR7 on loan for a year and CR7 joins them the following year to play in the Champions League. This is evidence that Ten Hag had the intention to hold onto CR7 but unfortunately things changed as the goald were not coming.
The problem is if CR7 wanted to leave from the start why is he complaining about the club trying to force him out? That s what he wanted!!
Souness: Let me finish my sentence
Simon: WELL GET THERE THEN
😆 I love you Simon
Thing is though ronaldo is on 500k and didn’t want take a pay cut. You can’t blame the manager one bit that nobody wanted to come for him.
even he decreases his salary by 50%, it’s still difficult for clubs like Napoli, Sporting, Dortmund, Milan. He could have played for 100k tbh, but I think he didn’t wanna deal with all these changes before world cup.
This is not addressed enough ,he only had one offer and that was from Saudi Arabia
@@sevvvs but he loves united apparently so why go there....this isn't cole or schmeichel when city weren't competing for trophies
@@sevvvs pay attention ,I'm talking about the summer just gone ,not when he left juventus
@@sevvvs man city never wanted him, that has been confirmed multiple times. Man Utds terrible owners were taken in by the media.
Its the same how PSG, Bayern etc apparently wanted him this summer but they didn't. If he took a £100k a week he would probably be at sporting or athletico right now but he wont so its unlucky
Rashford was bullying elanga - calling ragnick “spec”
Missed 16 big chances this season, 38 times possession lost(without pressure), doesn’t press
Only scores if he gets 1v1 with keeper (that too multiple 1v1s)
Great discussion between two titans in heir own field! I personally would be backwards in coming forward about calling Graeme Souness stupid. 😂
Liverpool fan here, not keen on Souness, however I agree with him. Regardless how Souness managed a team, his advice now is on point.
Simon lighting up Souness as usual.
Simon would light anybody up.
I😂😂😂😂