Brexit debate: What young people really think |
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2019
- These people were just too young to vote in the referendum - so how do they think Brexit is going? #BrexitInbetweeners #78DaysToBrexit
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This crowd doesn’t represent the 75% of young people who voted to remain
I would love to see the same crowd again today and hear their opinions!
Absolutely. I’m at 8:30 and there’s a guy saying that the the rest of the world is the future and the EU is a stagnating protectionist economy.
Yeah, it is protectionist- of its members. How do these geniuses feel about their standards of living now that they’re stuck outside I wonder.
Lol right. I went back to watch it again
2 years down the road and what’s changed????? I wonder how many of these youngsters are still of the same opinion????
Its a shame politicians aren't as passionate about helping struggling people as they are on focusing on leaving at any cost.
Please put in people from all corners of the uk for these debates, stop just having English people. Please include Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh.
It seems most people have lost their minds and a terrible future is what they want to happen!
Where can you see how the English Voted ? We have many people and should be heard every bit as much as our Celtic cousins
@@LabRat6619And what is a terrible future?
@@Lolp821 a terrible future is one with much higher unemployment than we currently have. A future of more homeless and social injustice than we have today.
Our beloved Tory party do NOT endorse socialist type means of support by definition. Our much loved Tory leader want EVERYONE to support themselves with, job, private pensions, private healthcare. All they will do reap and spend our taxes.
You think the Eurocrats are bad but overlook the monsters we have in government.
@Oswald Mosley Hahahahahahahaaaa!!!!
I am so proud of these young people; debating using thoughtful arguments without insulting each other. Adults should take note! Also much more nuanced views about Brexit than many influential figures in the media would have us believe.
I can understand that Carol, May I call you Carol ? but one thing you do not understand is, these are children ! most live at home, or live on campus , most have not lived long enough to know the world we live in, they have never paid taxes in there lives ! and yet most like the young man said " 18 year old's to 24 year old's voted to stay " in Europe. they have not had the life experience to make that kind of decision for the rest of us, that is something that bothers me a bout young voters,I do like that more young people are getting involved in there future, I just do not agree that this referendum should have let 18 year old's to vote at all. 25, that is when they should get the vote, work, pay taxes, get some experience a bout life and what it means to pay taxes, and get out of daddy's basement and go to work for a living, even college kids, these privileged never worked a day in there life because mommy and daddy are millionaires, makes me sick, and they all have big mouths ! and opinions, but tell me Carol, what have any of these children contributed to Britain ? nothing ! maybe one day, but not this day Carol. I do like there enthusiasm, but that is what these Colleges do ! people should earn the right to vote ! not have it handed to them because there 18. not on issues that effect a whole Country. I can smell the baby powder off my computer ! If I had my way only the poor and middle class would vote, that way money and bribery would never be an issue ! would it Carol ?
Hi Jean, your right ! but most older people have worked and payed there fair share to Government coffer's, these kids are to spoiled these days, take a way there iPhone and they would be lost ! wise has nothing to do with voting. unless it is for the person YOU want in office. and if they do not, I guess they are not wise ? is that what your telling me ???
Excuse me, but if they are now old enough to vote, then they are adults . If they want a second referendum because they missed the first, what happens in 3 or 4 years when the next lot of students feel the same way. This could go on ad infinitum.
@@arrow-lo7jf well said!!!
cause most of them didt go thought debate school yet
This backfired on Jon Snow terribly haha! Screw the EU, its a failing Empire. That girl who says "We are the youth" well the youth come around every 10 years, so what do we do? Keep revoting?
In democracy you will sometimes have to re-vote. You re-vote your government as well after few years should UK not do that and be dictatorship then? I thought the point of or one point of Brexit was to get better democracy and than indirect democracy in EU not worse.
@@lauri2010 : Yes, but you have to enact the result of the first vote before you can consider having another one, otherwise it's not democratic at all.
That is why we have general elections every 4 years.
@@lauri2010 Waited 43 years since the last one. I suggest we wait another 43 years before we do this all again 😬
@boson96 So why didn't we have this referendum years ago? Or more especially when we actually joined the EU in 1993? We could have left many years ago! Why is there such a problem with having it now too? Referendums are different, once in a lifetime as said by David Cameron.
The tears in Jon Snow's eyes when he realises that young people can be brexiteers too. Priceless 😂
ur delusional mate.
Susanne Yuk-ping Pong haha! I think you may be feeling bitter
@@TheWonderingEnglishman nope. Simply calling out a fantasy. Also called Brexit.
Was just about to say the same thing! 😅 he’s trying to avoid the leavers opinions and say “lets here form the remain side” 🤦🏼♂️😅
@@jayvenables1124 nope, he's looking for 'balance' which fortunately is legally obliged of him.
Bring these same young people back and ask them again if Brexit is what they want to do now.
spot on these people are dumb they dont read enough and haven't studied well enough in school
Let's have a referendum EVERY DAY to make sure nobody misses out!
James yup, deffo..
Well it'll get me out walking
@my name is my name how so? It's an abstract, but not a straw Man. What about the "we didn't get to vote back then" wouldn't apply to the next guy down the line? The date was set, those who could vote did, they knew it was a once in a lifetime event and the people spoke. Asking for runbacks because they didn't like the result is clearly dumb.
The people voted whether or not to leave, it was win or lose, and we all knew it would be a onve in a lifetime, yes or no ending.
GGWP, but hold that L.
Referendum:
0 no
0 yes
Would be the best.
I was amazed to see the BBC do a balanced debate - oh, hold on, it wasn't the BBC.
Issue here us its never "balenecd"
😂😂😂
Britain is now insignificant on the world stage, congratulations 👏👏👏
See young Brexiteers do exist
They always existed and there are plenty of them.
Chief Sunnah do u have a brain
'Chief Sunnah' sounds like a Muslim Carribean guy... Viva la Muhammed!!! @Chief Sunnah
@Freeze Peach Not in London. Go to Sunderland, Plymouth, Hull etc, there are many especially in the working class areas.
So do witches and wizards. Just look at that witch at 1:13 behind him thinking, "WTF is this muggle barking on about?"
We didn't vote for Brexit. We voted to leave the EU in its entirety. Brexit is just a term for that, nothing more. Remainers use this term and they do it to say that nobody knew what kind of Brexit they voted for or there are many different types of Brexit... None of these statements can be true because we didn't vote for the term. We voted to leave the EU. That was on the ballot and leaving the EU, Customs Union and Single Market was exactly what remainers stated would happen before the vote and exactly what I voted expecting to happen should leave win.
That's right, leave the EU. As long as that is done. Let the chips fall where they may...
Article 50 is triggered. The date is set.
I want trade and cooperation, I want friendly diplomatic relations at all levels. I want as little as possible to change, but if we can say that we are technically not in the EU, that will be good enough for most of us I think.
If Westminster makes all our laws, and the judiciary are independent, and the Bank of England does whatever they are supposed to do with our currency. That is all the reassurance anyone could need.
We have to be happy with that, and we do not need to lower our standards of business or justice to do this.
None of us know the future here, but we can't go back.
to be honest its not that way. Every time a brexiteer as they are called is asked what the realistic withdrawal is, it just reverts to slogans and they start shouting at anyone who asks as a remoaner just for wanting answers.
its fine to say yeah we leaving, but this should be described as well
Not all want that i know a few brexiteers who want to leave on a no deal while others want a canada style deal.
@@BatteredWalrus That's because the leave campaign promised sunshine and unicorns with multiple different deal terms all supposedly better than what we have (Despite all being worse and all giving less control than we currently have with our full seat at the table, very odd considering the take back control soundbite) but they were so focused on muddying the waters to make it seem like there would be something better outside the club than we get from being in it that they made it so that the vote was meaningless as nobody knew what everyone else voted for as every leave voter was voting for a different breed of unicorn from the menu of leave promises.
BatsAndBadgers - Starting a sentence with "to be honest it's not that way" then saying "EVERYTIME (thats not honest) a brexiteer as they are called is asked what is the realistic withdrawal is, it just reverts to slogans". Come on man... "To be honest" then followed by a general opinion of YOURS isn't honest. Because to be honest, you know a realistic withdrawal agreement isn't what was voted for. A withdrawal agreement only has to be... LEAVE. That is what I voted for. I want the best relationship possible as long as the pillars are based on leaving the customs union, single market and legal framework, if they don't want to do that, we leave. If those pillars are not met in its entirety (which was what was on the ballot) then that's not good enough. There would have been no compromise the other way I assure you.
Also... On the "slogans" you hear....well that's just what you hear, or more, it's the perception of what you hear...along with who manages to get on TV, what columns you read and what you reference as personal discussion and all of that is subjective so to be honest...it's not honest, it's just just you're opinion of other opinions in the tiny minority you have heard and that is neither here of there.
Well that didn't go as planned by channel 4 editors and directors......
I don't think John Snow was expecting the reaction he got from these youngsters. Even the remain side now want out.
I thank the Brits did not realize what they were voting and the real consequences. Nobody knows. I think it will be a real disaster for all of us, UK & EU.
"We are the youth" as a young person I find that such an ignorant comment.
Leave voters aren't afraid of a second referendum, but whoever loses as second will be able to call for a third, and it totally disrespects the first in 2016.
Kudos to the majority of young people who attended this event that accepted the result of the 2016 referendum and those that advocated a vote to LEAVE the EU seemed more clued up than those wanting a second referendum.
How about parliament cancels Brexit under the reasoning that the referendum was not binding, calls new general elections, and then let the people vote for the politician who dares promise a BINDING brexit referendum.
This is all legal, democratic and, quite frankly, the best way to solve the division in this country.
It is not simply a repeat though. A repeat of 2016 fails to solve the constitutional issues around getting brexit through parliament, and it doesn't provide a mandate for the type of brexit people might want. It's an informed vote on which specific deal people want and crucially, whether that deal is more popular than our current deal (remain). If a deal has a majority then it is a clear mandate and not up for interpretation by politicians as the current one is.
Totally agree. A *binding* referendum, with all the checks and balances that this level of change could bring. A vote for everyone this affects - EU nationals in UK and UK nationals in EU. Even Scottish referendum allowed 16 and 17 year olds to vote for independence, but they did not allow any of this in this vote because it was an advisory referendum. Had it been binding to start with, then the results would have been deemed void due to all the illegal activity anyway.
@@sohrabrustum8582 The brexit referendum wasn't even open to all residents those most affected like EU citizens that have lived here for decades and have British children under 18 for example were not permitted to vote even though their family will be split up and such. The leave campaigners were very careful to write the rules so that it was neither based on citizenship or residency but intentionally excluded those members from either group most likely to vote against their treachery.
@@seraphina985 Just a couple of polite points for you to consider - if the EU residents who have lived here for years had become British citizens they could have voted. The leave campaigners did not write the rules the electoral commission did.
Hahahaha.....Jon Snow totally destroyed!
He assumed young people would all be remainers
I'm so bored of listening to Femi spouting his propaganda.We didn't vote for how things are going at the moment, but we did vote to leave.We wanted to leave when we voted, we still want to leave now.Had our government backed the decision voted for by the public, there wouldn't be any Brexit debates now as we would be on track and getting on with it.
Femi is backed by the one and only George Soros via his foundations. If you haven't watch the Katie Hopkins interview where Femi's "handler" has to call time on the questioning as Katie wants to know who is funding his campaign.
It is actually pretty infuriating how incapable you are of understanding how you can't just leave the EU without any deal, or a deal which harms UK economy. This is the best possible deal, and the reason you think it's too soft is because the UK actually benefits from being a EU member. The UK benefits from trading with and having close relations to the EU. You just need to get that in your head.
Julian Nikolay Krogh-Fredriksen can’t leave? Why not?
Blaming Tommy Robinson again. You have lost the debate. Ffs what did Tommy have to do with the referendum.?
It was Tommy's face on the side of Boris' big red bus don't you know ;)
How can this be a proper debate if there are no remain in there and everyone are leavers??? What's the point of this?
The producers failed.
"You cannot play golf at the golf club everyday, without being a member of that golf club, or pay more, it's as simple as that." - Possibly the BEST argument for a no-deal Brexit I've heard in some time.
I'm considered a millennial and everyone I know voted to leave and we would all do it again.
For what reasons?
ukguy How would that improve your life? You would have fewer chances, for example, access to a free of charge university in a European country, or the automatic right to work and protection there if an opportunity came up, or retirement wherever you'd choose.
ukguy How would that improve your life? You would have fewer chances, for example, access to a free of charge university in a European country, or the automatic right to work and protection there if an opportunity came up, or retirement wherever you'd choose.
German here. At this point I think it will be the best if the UK takes a time outside the EU. As we say in Germany: "Travelers shouldn't be held up". I kinda feel sorry for basically half the nation being held hostage for a 52/48% split decision, but what can you do. It will give the UK the opportunity to realise what the benefits of the single market in a globalized economy really are (especially if you barely produce anything anymore) and what the EU actually does and does not do. In the British media I still hear "we could have Norway plus, we could have this or that" - Heads up: you probably won't like any of those arrangements, none of those are better than what you currently have. You cannot play golf at the golf club everyday, without being a member of that golf club, or pay more, it's as simple as that. All I can say is that I think that the British public has been fed a lot of lies over the last couple of years, I am still baffled sometimes by the reporting in the UK media.
So what are the sovereign decisions that the EU held the UK from doing?
@@rolfbause9523 The British don't want to be part of the EU they want to be the leader and huff and puff when there not.
The labour market was flooded by cheap labour from Eu country’s, then company’s got smart then shifted everything to poorer nations like Poland etc..... that’s why they are booming now. The Eu refugees situation is a way for them to flood in and use our health services and handouts but if a local went for handout in his time of need he wouldn’t get it.
If your wealthy you’ll not see any of the wrongs in your or our country.
Sadly I’m poor!! So that’s why the vote happened and we voted leave!
Germany will be leaving soon and the euro will be no more!
Germany are reasonable for this, if you didn't flood Europe with people who are completely against our culture and values Britain would of stayed in. It's crazy how Germany has destroyed Europe again.
The EU is completely anti democratic, the EU making France and Ireland vote again prove it.
Not ONE remainer noted ANYTHING they got from being a member of the EU that they would not have as a non-EU member even if in different form.
Good trade deals with the EU perhaps? Representing the majority of our trade?
Dudemar of our total trade only about 12-16% is exports, of our exports 43% is with the EU, of our total trade only about 5-7% is with the EU. You’re being lied to. How does that further breakdown you ask? Of the remaining 57% about 55% is under WTO framework using tariffs imposed by the EU, meaning the majority of our goods we export are on tariffs set not by us but by the EU, this also applies to our imports, again the majority of our imports are not with the EU, however those imported goods are more expensive than they should be thanks to EU imposed tariffs and there are also quota limits set again by the EU. You always hear about the group of a few hundred businesses who say leaving will be a disaster, what they omit is that you don’t hear that from the over 2.2 million businesses that are in the UK who are ALL affected by EU imposed rules, regs, standards and ECJ rulings even though they don’t trade with the EU...again, the media and 75% pro-EU Parliament are lying to you. Do you want to talk about EU funded King College London based “Gov assessments” or EU funded CBI claims that base their findings of doom based on blockages at ports (which ALL the authorities will say will not happen any more than normal if no deal) or on the basis that the Government will do NOTHING to mitigate any risks, basically the lying MPs who push these disaster claims are saying to you they will do NOTHING to advert disaster, given that ofc they will act you can safely assume it will no longer be a disaster as they claim (lie), worst, they are knowingly lying to you.
I've lived in this country for 12 years, went to school, finished a levels, worked multiple jobs paying my taxes and have been a spender within the economy. Not to mention the many years my mother has been here and also contributed to society. I have English friends, speak the language perfectly and have integrated into this society. Yet I don't get a say or a vote.
I voted remain. I would vote leave now -- this whole thing is a joke
You lost and you did get over it. Gotta respect that.
@@drahcirnevarc9152 Intesting, how somehow voting, has now been equated to being on the winning or losing side, not just I would like this and I voted for it and it did not happen oh well time to move on, oh dear, but nooooo it's oh you lost or I am winner and that means I am better than you and so on and so on. Sad how this has deeply polarized our country, but that's what we get for letting Putin fund discontent and far right politics throughout europe.
@@KittenisKitten Voting has always been a winning vs losing contest. The winner gets their will enacted, the loser doesn't. However, I don't think the winners are better than the losers at all. As for the polarization of our country, it is because Brexit has yet to happen so the contest has not ended. Once we leave the polarization will end when the fighting stops and everyone comes back together. I feel like you voted remain, if you did then how would you feel a few years after leaving the EU?
@@KittenisKitten As I am sure you are aware, the climate of political debate in the UK since the EU Referendum has been somewhat rancorous and vituperative. Speaking myself as a Leave-voter, I have become habituated to being told that I didn't know what I was voting for, that I was lied to, and that I am a thick, knuckle-dragging, little-Englander racist - which is fairly ironic, as I'm actually an immigrant with a Philosophy PhD, and speak four languages.
A common response of Leavers to being patronised and abused in this way by Remainers has been the phrase "you lost, get over it." I modified this phrase in my response to abdul PATEL's comment, because his comment was neither patronising nor abusive, and I respect him for this.
Your comment about Putin has absolutely no bearing on present proceedings as far as I can see.
We need to preserve democracy. At any cost. From a 20 year old who also voted remain.
Who needs Netflix!? This Brexit shitshow is priceless! The UK continues to entertain the world!
Yep we are entertaining :)
Don't forget to pay us
Why shouldn't a nation assert its independence against an empire? I guess you're too young to remember the Prague Spring in 1968, and the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.
Any of the kids working class???
doubtful, i saw 0 hoodies, 0 knives and 0 pregnant girls ;)
That's enough out of you Karl
They don't seem particularly posh either though.
Uni students in Leeds, maybe not
We all work.........so we're all working class.
"Doesnt have to be Britain first" what a stupid statement. What country wouldn't put their own people first?
Lil Rawri a dirty foreigner
Most likely it won't be Britain first, as thanks to the Brexit, Britain will be no more. Scotland will simply trade one union of another. With a bit of luck, Northern Ireland will go in Scotland's steps.
More than you would think, all those that are in the eu that aren't Germany for a starter.
Trudeau puts foreigners first. Also the Ameriacan Democratic Party.
@@MankindDiary scotland had a referendum and stayed in the Uk, so they will be in the same union as us.
The British don’t even know how expensive health care is in America.
It’s the most expensive health care system in the world.
Nobody really knew what was going to happen in the original vote, Informed Democracy is a powerful tool, Uninformed Democracy is chaos.
we knew we would leave the eu... what part of that is unclear?
+mike cole Oh you have been very clear that you guys knew nothing and still know nothing after 2 years, most don't even understand what the withdraw agreement is or even the basic concept of customs and border. Even your "expectations" shifts on a monthly bases when how bad Brexit was going to be starts becoming undeniable. From "it's going to be fantastic" to "We know it's going to bad but it's worth it". The only thing constant is the refusal to acknowledge being fooled, but just because you refuse doesn't mean the world will see it as you do. You will still be the fool to the rest of the world.
To Err is Huma shut up
Nobody voted for MAY and nobody voted for a Remain-Deal. 17.4Million voted to completely LEAVE the EU with 100% Sovereignty.
@Mr Latency Leaving the EU doesn't mean a norway style deal. That's a remain on inferior terms deal. Another byproduct of the propaganda of soft/hard brexit. Tell me, if you leave your house and only have one foot out the door, have you actually left?? Lastly one point no one has brought up and it's a big point is the fact that the UK joining the EEC back in 1972 was unconstitutional yet the supreme court hasn't taken Heath's government on that yet.
1st person to start shouting was a remainer
i know this is unrelated but have you noticed the guy's nose? 21:01
first person to start shooting was a leaver
@@oneminutefixed5003 that's a brexiters nose.
"how many of you know what brexit means" perfect ending for Johnny 😂😂
This is very one sided "debate" - they seem v naive about what's possible and while nearly none of them put up their hands to say they "know what Brexit means" - they're still in favour of it. Madness....as we've seen play put in the following 4 years. It's sad.
Young and naive!
Invest in Africa?? All 54 countries of Africa have a total GDP less than France! How is the UK going to increase trade by selling 5 or 6 Nissan cars to Zimbabwe? Why do BRexiters keep spouting this arrant nonsense?
Exactement!!!
They are the most rich in minerals which are robbed
Investing in Africa would provide jobs and eventually wealth and hopefully stop all these African migrants crossing the Mediterranean.
The EU should have started work on this years ago!
Helping them to export fruit and veg. would have been a start.
By the EU's own figures 90% of future growwth will come from outside the failing EU model, 26 out of 28 eu countries have fallen in world economic rankings since joining.
Yes, but growth is simply for the long term. Europe has a mature economy that is rich. So we have to be willing to profit off Europe before going to plunder Africa via our coorporations. @@wycombewanderer6649
You’ve got to get these guys back
It would be interesting, but it's very difficult for most people to admit to themselves, let alone the entire country, that they were wrong or they had any part to play in the resultant damage.
I wish Channel 4 could do this debate TODAY with ALL THESE PEOPLE and get their reaction about BREXIT NOW!
It was the worst referendum ever constructed. Why wouldn't you want another
1. There were no terms and conditions for what will happen after you vote LEAVE or REMAIN
2. EU citizens that have lived, worked and built there lives in the UK were not allowed to vote on an issue which is about them
3. Expats abroad were not allowed to vote on an issue which is about them
4. There were only 2 options for the most complicated topic that is brexit
5. Now we know what LEAVE actually means and what REMAIN actually means, lets have a real referendum with T&C about a subject we now know what it is
1. The terms and conditions for what happened after was supposed to be the deal that was left to a person who was so obviously biased Against brexit. Politicians on your side have been fighting against a democratic decision for 2 years and then you don’t understand why there’s no deal like honestly you are ridiculous
2. In what country do people who are not citizens of the country have a right to vote ? Completely invalid and nonsensical point
3. Expats did actually have a way to vote so again invalid and nonsensical
4. What other options could there be??? Like honestly mate are you this thick ? Do you want to leave the EU...? Yes or no those are the only options.
None of you mugs were crying this much when Scotland voted to stay yet it was the same exact thing just one you agree with aand the other you don’t. You’re just repeating BS talking points being fed to you by ignorant politicians. Why wouldn’t you want another referendum ?? Because that’s not how democracy works, you voted for something and your side lost, now accept the terms and move on with your life. How petty can you people really get. Like it’s borderline childish at this point.
LEAVE THE NWO
The audience extremely contradicts the figures Snow tells Corbyn,he says 2/3rd of them want a people's vote & 85%
I think the audiences opinions absolutely shocked him early on there
4 years on… and what an unmitigated disaster this whole thing has been.
if only some experts had warned them!
It would be very interesting to know how the audience was selected. For example, if you could just apply to become part of the audience, a well organized campaign group could send a huge number of applications and make a big part of the audience. Simliar things happen with online polls all the time, or CZcams videos being voted up and down coordinatedly. These people have very strong opinions and seem all well prepared. Just saying.
No, just people wanting to express their views. People can agree on something and not be part of a hivemind
They seem like public school kids, irrespective of the above, just listen to the accents.
Ha, three options.....it's not mays deal, no deal or remain, it should really be labelled as it really is.....Remain, Remain or Leave.
Sorry, you have it mislabeled, it is: Remain, Insane (May), or Leave. The vote probably ends up 45, 10, 35, which is the objective.
May's deal is technically a trade deal that comes into effect immediately after Brexit. No deal is just tearing the band-aid off slowly.
@Brexit Monger : Spot on.
As a Pro-EU and EU member. I just hope you get your NO-DEAL. I want to see that what they have anticipated what would happen actually really happens.
@@HermanWillems - You are EXACTLY why we are leaving. You're utter arrogance and intent to see us as punished because we don't want any of your exclusive club any more. I can't wait to leave. Once we do other countries will look at us and think "hold on, they were okay...the EU are lying to us" and so the fake empire begins to fall. Its all because of your arrogance that somehow you believe your way of life is better instead of leaving us to it. We left the EU because you simply cannot demonstrate why staying is such a good thing - after all this time we still don't know why we need a "members golf club". Enjoy it whilst it lasts Herman - I'm sure you'll be inviting an African immigrant into your home as you expect others to do so around Europe (hypocrite). Enjoy being Europes cuckhold too - I'm sure you'll love watching all those wonderful German girls hooking up with your new middle eastern or African friends. Great job fucking Sweden in the process as well. Your "club" is going fantastic work.
Just leave, we've had enough, moving on without you.
Have you got a forwarding address.
That's what we are trying to do :)
You've had enough?!! We where fed up and wanted to leave 2 years ago!! We're all fed up here hearing about Brexit every day!!!
@Lei P We want you to get on with it. You're just stood at the door shouting "I'M LEAVING" like a mentalist for the last two years. Close the door, mate, there's a draft.
Yea but who will you trade with if you just leave without any plan or deals.
France and Belgium have nationalised railways. Our railways were not nationalised by "the EU".
It would be interesting to see what these people think now two years later.
3:22 the presenter didn't want him to finish what he was saying...hmmmm I wonder why #eyeroll
The guy was choking, he just savvily saved him from the pressure situation.
It's a shame the young are just as uneducated on the facts as the adults.
The young will always follow the strong.
@@mrhanky-panky133 What about the facts? Do you have no concern for them?
@Chief Sunnah My comment was on FACTS. What has your comment go to do with them?
@Satya Nanda You are not a fan of the facts it seems.
@ligik100 we have won even if brexit is stopped, if anything I'm hoping brexit is stopped.
No matter how this debacle ends up
Britain has done herself irreparable damage on the international stage
Real people with Real views. You know nothing John Snow. It hilarious he thinks this group has been set up to enforce his agenda and nobody in the room Agrees with him. Classic.
Thanks for keeping the comments on channel 4
Good to see the passion in these youngsters.
We will be fine. Look at them all.
Surely this lot can keep Britain going.
The "We weren't old enough to vote then so we should have another vote now" is such a stupid argument.
That's not the voice of young people, but the voice of young politicians.
It was so obviously a bad night for the failed channel 4 remain campaign as so many young kids want to leave.
Not a representative sample.
If your comment was at all relevant, why on earth would they have broadcast the programme? "Failed" is straight out of Trump talking points, that is, useless.
@@acac7928 Yeah Vote Leave didn't openly cheat and lie in the last referendum. I think the reason that you lot are so scared of another vote is not because you actually give one about democracy but because you know you couldn't lie and cheat again to achieve another win for leave.
Every sensible decision making system like voting on new laws or substantial boardroom decisions you need a 2/3 majority in order to decide on change.
The reason for 2/3 is that you need a stable majority over time not a coin-flip where you need a referendum each year for decisions that last for decades.
(by the way the UK went in the EU with a 68% majority)
No minimum majority was set pre referendum and everyone who voted was aware of that. To say what should have happened after the fact, is nonsensical.
The only people who use that argument are remain voters as they cannot accept that more people voted for the side they didn't.
Britain never voted to join the EEC or the EU. We were put into both without the electorate voting for it. The EEC Referendum was to determine whether to leave the EEC or retain membership of it.
There's one thing these youngsters did have in common with the voters 2 years ago, they're majority leave.
A small country thinks it can make favourable trade deals with huge markets around the world....this will be a rude awakening. Greetings from Germany
bring the same people together today september 2022
Keep your sovereignty people don’t go down the globalisation route
I'm surprised that Jon Snow is allowing people to voice their opinions. He, as a remainer ,is having his eyes opened finally at last realising that most youngsters do actually know and understands what democracy is.... Another vote will become so divisive for the future of democracy it beggars belief that it is being contemplated.
John Snow's bias became instantly apparent in seconds.
At this point the UK is looking like the last guy who doesn't know the party is over, you know that guy who keeps talking to the owners of the house, asking for more drinks or food after everybody left and the owners only want to go to bed.
@@sohrabrustum8582 Sorry buddy but I'm in a party right now and it's not over!! But we can do some celebrations on Friday, March 29, 2019. See you soon and best wishes
Haha that’s actually pretty accurate, but at one point when the hosts have had enough of the drunk teenager they call the cops.
29 of March
@Brexit Monger Dude, I'm not neither in the EU or UK so I have no horse in this race but best of luck and have fun people. Isn't this what you wanted? Celebrate!!!Fireworks!! Come on! I can understand the 'remainers' being upset but the brexiteers won. I thinks it's party time but you all look like a glum bucket.
EU party is over when every European country's taxes increase by 20% to pay for the UK shortfall. Want facts and figures send me an email and i will remove your delusions.
"No Deal" hard BREXIT. 🇪🇺😎
LEAVE /no deal /hard brexit/ ......that the best way for this country 🤛🤛🤛🤛🤛
Why are they all complaining about being too young to vote the first time and not focusing on the fact that the people were straight up lied to during referendum campaign? And everyone saying a second referendum is non-democratic... surely when a campaign is proven to have used lies to win, the most democratic thing to do is to vote again with proper facts and information.
The EU is not protectionist in general. It's only true for the agricultural sector.
It is interesting to hear the opinions of kids who never knew a completely sovereign Britain. EU is crumbling and UK is smart to leave now.
*Checks channel* Yep, you're a yank. Keep to your side of the Atlantic, please.
@Kevin Burrow Mate,you just replied to someone with a 'name" like that!
Do you have eyes in your head?
Feel like it's the other way round
UK was crumbling mostly proven facts that those are caused by your OWN Government. Stepping out the EU will not get rid of the government. Also the EU isn't going anywhere it's here to stay and the EU nations are all pro EU especially now.
@@HermanWillems What , you mean like Italy, Hungary, Poland, France etc, yeah they are all for it , thus the rise of right wing parties lol.
Misleading title, it should be "Young Conservatives Brexit Echo-Chamber"
“Conservatives”, you fool. Conservatives like neoliberalism.
The Brexit Referendum was specifically only "advisory". If MPs think the 'terms' are not in the best interests of the country, then they should vote against it, because we have a representative democracy, not direct democracy by referenda.
In that case the options would be to either withdraw article 50 and remain or re-negotiate - or - have a second referendum on the 'terms'.
A second referendum can only be *more* democratic - not less, because it entails asking the electorate again. We're 'allowed' to vote more than once on issues - that's why we have elections every few years - because opinions change when more information becomes available.
The thing about young people in England is that no one listens to young people, I used to live there and mine and other people's opinions weren't listened to and it lead to bad stuff.
"lets look at Africa" its not 1819...its 2019
Hahaha. Look at all the Triggered Remoaners
I guess this goes against everything they been saying about young people who wernt old enough to vote will now vote remain.
Oh dear.
Well done youngsters , you all spoke total sense.
The audience was packed by C4. It's a conspiracy.
@@garsm2290 channel 4 are hard Remainers so wouldn't intentionally fill the room full of Brexiteers.
15 is not a statistical significant number
@@tomcolton5662 So your saying they just let 15 leave supporters onto a remain funded propaganda channel?
@@h3akalee it's a balanced audience, 80% of young people vote remain
I think it is great that young people are sharing their ideas with each other. Hopefully they will begin to understand how difficult it is to run a democratic republic. And yet it is still better than not having any say in your governance.
Not a deal were your leaving at the same time with one foot out the door and the other left in as if you never left.
Leave with no deal, then make a deal after you left.
Sounds simple enough.
6:29
Yes but what exactly have you contributed to British society so far. How much taxes have you contributed etc, etc.
Everyone is left wing when their young. But these kids will eventually have to support themselves, have children and think about what the government is spending their taxes on, get angry and seeing it wasted on silly things, while their queuing for hours waiting for doctors appointments, and wondering why people they care about can't get the support and help their entitled to, while people from third world countries come here illegally, jump the queues and take their opportunities away.
21:15 - very clever young man
Nope, here in the Netherlands(Biggest and proud NET conributor to the EU) we see clearly that our taxes go to good things. We have fantastic road quality. I can't remember the last time i have seen a pothole in the road for like 10 years! Also.. many other things. It could sometimes be better and more efficiënt. But we are doing pretty well. But what you say about the taxes.... is about your Countries government not the EU. You didn't vote your shitty government out of the parliament. haha If you really got a Job like me you see that trading with foreign countries is important and to earn money. We can't earn money that great without the EU single market. I can clearly see that my company would be worse off without the EU. Why can't you see that with the company you work at? Also the EU isn't either left or right.
4:17 He was campaigning for remain payed by NGO. Katie Hopkins interview him, his manager pulled him from the interview.
He's the only one in the audience getting payed. 🤔
I assume you have no comment on Katie Hopkins whatsoever. So yeah, totally believe your word
LOL literally first thing he says is that he is an activist.
Right wingers are dumb as dirt. A reason why your state will collapse and your society is in total meltdown 😂
@@BeardLAD The funniest thing was Femi lecturing Tim Martin about business and single market. Tim Martin = chairman of a company employing 37,000 people with 900 outlets Femi= Undemocratic professional moaner.
We voted to build a new house on our land. In order to do that, we have to knock down the old house. This means that we will be sleeping in a tent for a while.
Remainers want to keep living in the old house. They dont see a need to rebuild and worry that its going to be costly, take a long time and they'd rather not go through the upheavel.
The "deal" recognises the desire for a new house, but keeps us in the old one. Basically, May is saying "We'll stay in the old house, but we'll remove the roof". She expects us to accept that.
You might want to ask the young people that haven't had life fed on a plate lol
God, as a nation we are screwed. The good news for you all when we crash out and house prices collapse, you will be able to get a house......the bad news is there will be no jobs to pay for it so you are still screwed.
Loser
And the sky will fall in and we can't have any sandwiches or medicine too
We were all idiots when we were young, that's what being young is. The issue is the young refuse to listen to their elders, and think they know better. But that's what being young is. The point is, many of the "young" in the referendum, would of now left college, joined the REAL world, tried to find jobs, get housing, look for opportunities and found that resources they needed to help elderly relatives while sick have been given to third world refugees. They may of started to pay taxes and seen idiotic politicians wasting it on white elephants. Our population is getting older not younger.
maybe. i think the wealthy will buy them all.
I think the younger generation are equally divided on brexit as the older generation - that is my conclusion after watching this - Well done David Cameron you have trully screwed over the UK by opening pandoras box with the referendum - there is NO version of brexit that will work to unite this country again for a long time - something has got to give sooner than later
Leavers dominated that by a mile. Well done
@Mark Evans What's your point?
@Mark Evans The Scots had an independence Referendum in 2014, in which they voted to stay part of the UK by a margin of 2m to 1.62m. The SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon, who is the 1st Minister of the devolved Scottish Parliament, has been trying to engineer a 2nd Referendum, although her efforts in this respect have been blamed for the SNP's loss of seats in the UK's 2017 General Election. So it's really not clear that the Scots as a whole now wish to leave the UK.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum
@Mark Evans "A lot can change in 5 years."
Well maybe Nicola Sturgeon will get her Referendum once things have settled down after Brexit. And then we may find that people have changed their minds again. The bigger point is that you can't just hold referenda every time something changes. We live in a representative democracy, in which referenda have to be rare events. Otherwise who's to say that, if they voted for independence tomorrow, the Scots wouldn't be demanding readmission to the Union in 5yrs time if things didn't work out because, say, the oil price collapsed again, or they found they couldn't do without the Barnett money.
"You really haven't seen the atmosphere here. They all want to stay in the EU."
Well I'll have to take your word for it.
@Mark Evans Well that's just what happens when
(i) an empire hinders a nation's assertion of its independence, and
(ii) the nation's quisling political leadership neglects to carry out the will of its people, and to undertake the preparations necessary for independence.
"Who said immigrants are taking jobs?!"
I am an immigrant myself, so it ill behoves me to be anti-immigration. The point is that the numbers need to be controlled, because big business is using mass immigration to drive wages down, and mass immigration is also ramping up demand for housing, with the inevitable effect this has on housing cost.
"The Tories took my DLA then my housing benefit and now they want to take away my fucking job!"
Firstly, you've changed the subject. I thought we were discussing the impact of Brexit on Scottish independence aspirations. Now you want to turn it into a rant against the Tories.
Secondly the Tories don't WANT to take your job. They inherited a massive debt and deficit from Gordon Brown after he allowed public spending to get out of control, and it's taken them over a decade to get public spending under some sort of control. If you want to question their competence, go ahead, I probably won't argue with you. In contrast, the paranoid attribution of malign intentionality is just an exercise in futility.
@Mark Evans At the risk of repeating myself, you decided not to take your country back a few years ago. Maybe you'll change your minds in due course and decide to leave the UK, and do you know what? We'd rather you stay because we like you, but if you really want to leave, we won't impede your departure. So stop getting so angry about it.
I only got 10min in but very refreshing to not hear words like bigot or racist being thrown around (other than the mediator who tried to imply them) in the discussion, contrary to what happens when I talk about Brexit to “mature” Londoners.
The public can't be trusted with making decisions as complex as this one. It's why we vote for MP's. The first referendum was a mess and the public weren't educated properly about its consequences. At least a second one would see a public with a better understanding, but rather than call a second, the result of the first should be seen as too close to call. Leave it to MP's.
Most importantly, this programme refutes almost every argument about young people put forward by remain propagandists.
If you want to abandon the UK and go live on the continent nothing is stopping you. Let the UK be independent.
Wow, this was... encouraging. Fair play to channel 4 for getting a broad spectrum of opinions
Was too you to vote in the referendum of 1975 and I survived.
The problem is, we have to have the option of "no deal" on the table, otherwise we will be held hostage by the EU.
A no deal exit will be fine.
Stacey Bing - I guess after more then 2 years of such negotiation with the UK who has no clue what they want they might smile as the UK closes the door behind and leaves.
@Christos5120 To the point!
Wow! Delusional or what. A no deal means just that - NO trade deals with anyone anywhere. Forget WTO, 19 countries are objecting to the UK's schedules. With no freedom of movement, Airbus, Nissan etc.etc.etc. will all give up and decamp to the continent. And the mantra of 'forging our own way'? Deals take 7, 8 or more years - and they will never be better than what we have right now. The reason being that FTAs invariably have 'lock-ins' built in so that any deal the UK wants to do with, say, Japan or South Korea, means that the EU gets involved. The UK cannot and will not get a better deal than it has now.
@@CatholicSatan don't be ridiculous. I'm guessing you're not a business person.
We can easily sort out the details after Brexit.
Stop fear-mongering.
@@CatholicSatan who told you that? businesses wont just stop... they exist to make money. Strife is the best time to make money.
Hahaha Jon your boy femi took an absolute beating there, just shows that when it's not the Femi show he really doesn't speak for young people at all
@Brexit Monger Looks like he might be looking for his first job in march, I think mcDonalds is hiring
Which part?
At 11:10 they made a good show of talking loud, but accidentally countered their own points regarding medical imports.
i am 18 and couldnt vote a months ago so i miseed out to vote in the 2016 refrendum now i have to live off the worst made in british history
Leave the EU
Get over it we r leaving on the 31jan 2020 ring the bells go on BORIS
Shout out to the girl at 19:09. Softly spoken and reasonable, got shouted down. Feelsbadman.
Channel 4 you are so bad at propaganda. It's b backfired on this one ggre neville.
If they're trying to make propaganda why would they air this?
They didn't expect this.
"We're the ones who are going have to clean up this mess." IF only more young people understood that Labour's extra £1trillion of borrowing for inefficient expenditure on public services, renationalising utilities, and taking PFIs back into public ownership.
18 year-olds will be able to hold an EU membership referendum 41-49years on from 2016, as we joined the EU in 1969 and had the EEC membership referendum in 1975.
When people talk about a second referendum can they please be asked what if the result was 51% remain 49% leave ? Would we vote again or what ?
This is a poor quality of debate. Was expecting a little more from the younger voters. Shows just how difficult it is for people to get hold of good quality impartial information around Brexit.
I am an Aussie and I don't live in the UK but I can't wait to see the UK finally leave the EU and I always wish the UK the very best.
First of all, I firmly believe that the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU. However, saying that the EU has no intention of giving good deals to the UK mainly because they don't want any other members to leave the Union. It is like saying this is what will happen if any country tries to leave the Union. It is a MAFIOSO mentality.
Secondly, Brexit negotiation with the EU should have been done by a PM who was a passionate Leaver and not a Remainer like Theresa May.
Thirdly, if the UK has another referendum and then chooses to remain in the EU … the UK will become the joke of the world and will be looked down by the EU members.
stay down under with the sheila gran bastardo, do you firmly believe as well in unicorns? this is not a negotiation, EU dictate terms according to Theresa may self imposed red lines, it doesn't matter if its theresa may, res moogs or superman there was only one deal available on the table and its the one UK got, Brussels doesn't negotiate, Brussels dictate terms because they can, its what happen in business when you separate the men from the boys
I agree on all counts Bastardo! :)
Brexit was never a Democratic vote,it was always more akin to a By-election,reactionary vote where all the disaffected,dissatisfied people in this country saw their chance to stuff it to those in power.That's why they were open to the leave propaganda and that's why they blamed the EU for Tory austerity measures and mass immigration..How can having another referendum be undemocratic when about 80% of those poled now believe that staying in the EU is by far the best course of action for Britain.? Truth is that even leave supporters have to concede that Mays deal gives them less power and crashing out would be a disaster,so there is now only one option left.That option is to REMAIN and if leavers can't handle that,then let them protest,let them throw tantrums,let them kick and scream.True Democracy resides WITHIN Parliament,not within a one off reactionary UKIP type result.If there is a silver lining here,it's that young people hopefully will realise (as they have in America) the importance of getting out and VOTING for what type of society they want to live in.It is their future that is at stake,and they should have a Democratic right to vote on that future.when ALL the TRUE facts become apparent.
so what you are saying is we should keep voting untill it suits remainers grow up and get a life thats not democratic thats dictatorship just like the failing EU
No one can come to an agreement even during this debate. It gets extremely heated, in a short space of time. I wonder if parliament would ever see this, or if it is just another lost cause within the whole Brexit 'deal'.
That last question though... it was so disrespectful. He basically suggested that they don’t know what they’re talking about. 21:20