Can I Beat Pokemon Red with ONLY Nightshade & Seismic Toss? 🔴 Pokemon Challenges
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In this video I take you along my ridiculous Pokemon Red Challenge Journey through the world of Kanto in Generation 1 as I attempt to beat the entire game with only Nightshade and Seismic Toss, and without using Items in Battle! Am I able to do it? Only one way to find out!
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#pokemon #pokémonRed #pokemonchallenge - Hry
Gen 1 does not have experience share. It has experience all, and it's both useless and requires you have 50 Pokemon to get it. It also splits my experience evenly with my HM pokemon, making it actively worse than not using it at all
I just got like, 10 comments about this even though I brought it up in the video
Check it out for yourself: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Exp._Share
How about Pokemon sun with only incineroar
something i have to point out is you talk about how there is no exp share 5-6 time before you talked about exp all and most people comment the second you say something not at the end of the video.
@@thechronos173 Sure, but that doesn't really explain the litany of comments either literally saying Experience Share is in the game, or the ones who just described what it does wrong.
Or like, the people who are just trying to argue that I should be using Experience All, not realising that it would split my experience with my HM Pokemon and make the run slower.
damn, that is... shockingly bad. Like, I get the concept, in practice (especially due to the glitch) it's a Beginner trap, which is fine in games like darksouls and crap, but this is pokemon. Prob for the best u didn't use it yeah.
People be people, what can you do. They don't listen, mostly. Another great vid! Appreciate it ^^
3:15 You HAVE encountered this glitch before. In the Gen 1 Gastly run a few years back. Same Ekans doing it. It happened again later in the same run with Erika's Tangela using Bind.
I love how my brain immediately went "Makuhita!" as a guess to who you were going to teach Seismic Toss to, and then I immediately mentally facepalmed remembering it was Gen 1.
My favorite Kanto Pokémon: Makuhita
Feels like it should've been called the Night Shade Only run.
Also made me have flashbacks when you did Blaine's team for a challenge and it really did just turn into the Arcanine and meat shields run.
That’s what I was thinking, I was watching the video expecting him to say he was gonna grind up poliwrath. Still a good video nonetheless tho
"Haunter, use Night Shade! Haunter, use Night Shade! Haunter, use Night Shade! Haunter, use-"
"I HAVE OTHER MOVES, YOU KNOW!"
Based on the thumbnail, a run of Gen 1 where Pokemon can only use moves found on their TCG cards from the first 7 sets could be interesting. It could be done with any generation, but probably becomes easier as more cards are printed.
It's amazing how well Pokemon did considering how broken Gen 1 was
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 At the time it was made it was probably state of the art.
Videogames in general haven't really been around all that long. We've really come a long way from the old days.
@mtgstudios1556 especially for a handheld.
Yeah, Gen 1 was competing with Bomberman and Bust-a-move. It's more of an oddity that the current gens are still going well, given how much better other games nowadays are than it.
@@gogos1234567890 yeah, they've got xenoblade chronicles and tears of the kingdom on the field. Standards have gotten pretty high. I wonder if the curve on that will ever flatten out or if they will just keep becoming more and more innovative.
Exp Share (called Exp. All) IS in Gen 1. You just need to catch 50 Pokemon to get Oak's Aide to give it to you. It also DRAGS the post-battle text out. EDIT: COMMENTED BEFORE WATCHING THE WHOLE VIDEO I'LL GO PUT ON MY DOG ARMOR.
No hate not at all I just wonder Why comment Before the video is over? Genuinely curious have always wondered no hate!
When it was brought up the second time I suspected it was a bit, lol.
@@Huffer03people comment before the video is over for many reasons. Maybe they want to comment something before someone else does, they could simply be impatient, or they just don’t think that anything upcoming in the video would change what they want to comment
@@Huffer03Sometimes I forget things I want to say before the end of the video >.>
@@Huffer03I tend to comment sometimes because I have an idea in my head. I'll lose it if I have to watch all the way through before commenting. If I feel the desire to say something, I'll say something. That's all there is to it
I find it funny that this is themed around Seismic Toss and Ghost-types, given, in the anime, the final time Ash's Charizard ever used Seismic Toss missed cause Ghost-type.
The anime being more accurate than the games. 😂
when he said we wouldn't guess what pokemon he was catching for seismic toss, i thought that meant like "i will catch and teach it to the weakest/shortest armed pokemon" and immediately guessed "it'll be Abra"
4:24 So for future reference there's a setting in the Universal Randomizer that enables trade Pokémon to evolve without being traded.
I know, this unfortunately gets brought up just about every run
I can't use it. Could you imagine the comments if I did? Like 5 people would say "oh that's cool" and then everyone else would say it's cheating and stop watching the video
@@MahDryBreadyou care about making a living more than using fully evolved pokemon? Smh my head
@@MahDryBread I don't think majority of people would care nor mind but you can always check with a poll on Twitter or on CZcams.
Up to you , would just make runs like this that involve Pokémon your able to evolve a hell of a lot easier
@@MahDryBread You already "cheat" by starting with Gastly, I feel that there is little to no difference to also add a cool evolution to the run for more fun.
Literally what are you talking about? Just unsub again man. There no mental gymnastics, you just don't read the comments and know what people have directly told me
Maybe you don't know as much about my job as I do
Gen one is really held together by duct tape and a dream
To be fair, hacking in different starters leads to interactions that were never intended to happen, & in 1995 there was little reason to expect such a hack would be possible.
@@CaptHayfeverye
@@CaptHayfever Literally none of the glitches in my gen 1 runs are caused by switching the starter
Hacking in starters may actually fix a glitch or two in some weird, gen 1 kind of way
@@CaptHayfeverthat doesn't explain the dozens of glitches in the runs where the starter doesn't get swapped out, like No New Moves or Only Gift Pokémon or Yellow Pikachu Only. The 1/256 glitch, for example.
Please, don't EVER stop doing the fossil bit, it's just too good and makes my day better.
That’d be a great joke 😂
That would be absolutely hilarious
Petition to add a Helix/Dome Fossil mod to Oblivion
In *every* game he makes runs in really
"On my way to the oblivion gate, i took the helix fossil."
My guess for the pokemon you want to teach seismic toss is Meowth. After all the trouble it's given you in past runs, you must be eager to unleash it on others.
I just looked through the list of Pokémon that can learn it by TM in Gen 1 and Meowth isn't there, surprisingly! I'm kinda thinking Abra, just because it'd be really funny to reduce it and Kadabra, probably the best non-legendaries in the game, to only using a set damage move.
@@DanHowsenAlakazam the best non legendary? Not even close, Tauros probably should be in ubers
True
Tauros is fast and learns good moves like giga impact and hyper beam
@@Levi-uc9yx Giga impact no, Hyper beam yes, generally the set was Body slam, Hyper beam, earthquake, blizzard (if you're wondering the blizzard is there because it destroys Rhydon and golem, which you would otherwise really struggle with)
I absolutely love Haunter's red and blue sprite. It may just be nostalgia, but does anyone else like most (definitely not all) of the gen 1 sprites for some wierd reason? I even like seeing other gens done by fans with the same artstyle. Also, that Meowth fight was brutal.
I think what bothers me most about the whole ghost type/normal move situation is that Tri Attack cannot hit ghosts.
It is a combination of Fire, Ice and Electric as a typing. ALL OF THOSE can hit ghost type pokemon.
But when you combine them they become useless against them.
I hope they change that sometime in the future.
And that's why it should be a Dragon type move like most people (or at least I) think it is before actually getting it.
For the omix tackle thing, i read somewhere that each type has a special energy to it and normal is just the lack of energy. So for onix to actually use a rock type move, it needs to channel that energy
Using the cards for the thumbnail is a nice idea!
been thinking about a challenge run for a few weeks now, there is this move called "assist" where the use uses a random move from a random party member. so kinda like if you could semi control metronome. don't know if it would make for a good challenge, or if you even see this comment, but I think it sounds fun at least
PS: love your videos, one of my favorite things to put on when i just want to turn my brain off, keep it up
this could be a really funny run where he has his one main pokemon that always uses assist, and then builds his team behind it but isnt allowed to use any of them in battle. the rest of the team only exists for their movesets.
@@steveh1474 excactly, sounds like a lot of fun, really hope he sees this
Cut! .... Cut harder!
A Regigigas run sounds like it'll be a Slow Start for sure :). Though I'm still going to throw out Pokemon Gold/Silver with a single Murkrow as a future suggestion, give the goon bird some love
Good run
The upcoming Regigigas run is sure to be a *giant* bundle of fun!
Amazing how they made Nightshade and Seismic Toss ignore type immunities, but not Struggle…
Struggle was normal type back then.
after watching a bunch of your pokemon runs, I've decided to start one of my own. I'm going through fire red (I could do original red, but I don't like not having running shoes lol) without capturing any pokemon. I was originally going to try minimum battles, but I think I ran into some trainers in rock tunnel (because I couldn't see) so the no cap is kinda my fallback challenge. It's super fun so far, and it's all thanks you you, MDB! Well, also JRose11.
7:08
MDB: I just want to use a Poliwrath!
Also MDB: PoliWhat?
I think Lapras spammed Confuse ray because it’s a Ghost type move.
Yes. If you use a Fighting type on her Dewgong that doesn't 2/3HKO it,you are stuck in an endless battle. 😊
@@AlldaylongRock I knew that from the Pikasprey video. Did you learn it that way too, or from somewhere else?
@@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 Ive seen it mentioned by JRose11 and Pikasprey. IIRC Lorelei, Lance and the champion have «good AI», which does that thing. Same with many other gym leaders. Agatha and Bruno do not have the same AI routine tho.
@@AlldaylongRock Uh, not to be rude, but are you just telling me various gen 1 facts to try to on
Sorry, misclicked before I could finish. *One-up me or something?
Pokémon Emerald using legendary Pokémon with only baby moves (ember, thundershock, water gun, ect), since you FINALLY decided to use a legendary Pokémon, Regigigas next week.
Bro I just wanted you to know I have hard time going to sleep cuz of ADHD but watching your pokeruns always helps me relax and unwind. Keep up the good work!
great video always enjoy your challenge videos keep up the great work and thanks for all your hard work
Its been a really long time since ive seen one of these but i used to watch every one, hearing the fossil bit again made it feel like coming back home
Well this is a new one.
Requesting Pokemon B2W2 With Only One Chinchou.
"The AI is good enough that they won't try a normal move on me." The moment after you say that, Koga's Koffing attempts to tackle you.
Bro makes my day i listen to all his videos while i do anything keep it up man
Oh geez! This sounds like it's gonna be both painful AND fun to watch!
I actually love these moves, so I'm psyched to see you do this.
I REALLY like the thumbnail for this video, seeing the Pokemon cards there fills me with so much nostalgia. I look forward to maybe seeing them pop up a bit more??
Fun fact, Exp share and Exp All are called the same thing in Japanese, so in a sense "Exp share" actually exists in Gen1.
Exp share was intended to function as a key item that shares experience with your whole team.
This made the localizer named the item as "Exp All" in Gen1, but had to change the name to "Exp Share" in Gen2 when it became a held item.
So in a sense, the Exp share from Gen6 onwards actually reflects the initial idea of Exp Share in this series.
That's interesting. I remember in Gen 1 though the Exp. All would just divide the amount you got equally among the party instead of what it does now.
@@BmanTheChamp That is true. Doesn't change the fact that it was intended to share exp with your whole team though, just functions differently by the actual numbers.
20:28 knowing mdb was doing this recording on my birthday is kind of a great birthday gift...
"I want a Poliwrath" **never uses Poliwrath** "Poliwrath sucks!"
I don't think it's Poliwrath that sucks...
YES! I've always wanted to see/try this. At first blush it seems viable but levels/self-imposed caps can really mess with things, etc... plus I dunno really how much health the higher level guys have towards the endgame, but still I think this is winnable for sure.
This man really caught a poliwrath just to insult it. Poor frog boxer didnt deserve such disrespect lol
Having a bit of Poliwrath grinding is smart, you could easily level up some in Victory Road as it's so underlevel. More health plus a last-ditch Seismic Toss is fine
I want to start doing Pokemon challenges and posting them. Mah-dry bread has inspired me to do so. Thank you. I really appreciate it
Ok so the laparas kept using confuse ray as thatmove is ghost type and ghost is weak to ghost. Same reason as the agility spam.
Yeah, this run would definitely be harder in other generations with type matches actually affecting these moves, and no "good" AI that will spam Rest and Agility against a Ghost type, lol. Would love to see you do this run again in gens 2+ :)
Polo wrath in the hall of fame like “and I helped!” 😂
The little talk on "Why isn't Onix tackling counted as a rock type, it tosses itself, which is a giant rock, at you" has me wondering what a mod that actually does that would play like. Changing several moves in one of the gens to match the Pokémon's type rather than the move's type, would there be a huge difference in how a run or general play session would go? Would only actively burning Pokémon doing Tackle count as a fire type move? It wouldn't have made much difference with the whole Meowth thing, but it's fun to imagine.
I find the fact wrap doesnt work on but still stuns ghost types funny. And the only time i've seen this before was the last time ghastly was used in gen 1, 3 years ago
Looking forward to the Regigigas run!
The fridge saga has reached its conclusion! Woohoo! Oof about the wasp nest though. Hope that gets sorted out quickly.
Loved this one!
Random words of the "Day"™: day 618, 619, 620, and 621: Registration, Taskmaster, Governance, Tenderness
I almost spat out my water when I heard "Pokemon Platinum with only one Regigigas". I can't wait to see how fast or slow that challenge will be. It would be ironic if it was a fast challenge
" Koga's AI seems like it's smart enough not to use normal type moves", Koffing proceeds to use tackle 😂
This has given me an idea for a challenge, or potentially a series of challenges: only using moves that don't follow the standard 'one turn, one hit' rule. There's multi-hit moves like Fury Attack and Pin Missile, multi-turn moves like Rollout and Thrash, and 2nd turn moves like Dig and Fly.
The pokemon world is a world where elemental energies exist. Tackle is a standard attack containing no elemental energies. Rock Throw contians elemental energy, and that's why they can summon rocks in the middle of the ocean.
Hype for fridge arc conclusion! I mean the run was fun to I guess really though everyone was just waiting on the resolution of such a climactic situation
I have a challenge for thee: a pokemon playthrough where when your pokemon levels up even once from what you caught or received it as, you have to box or release them asap and are no longer able to use them going forward. I honestly have no idea if it's even vaguely feasible. Feels like a earlier gen would be the best bet. The modern games exp share would be horrible. Cheers!
That actually went better than I thought it would. I knew he would encounter the damage scaling problem, especially in the mid game, but early game went a bit smoother than I thought it would. Though some of those battles (Erika and Lance especially) went so well because Gen 1 A.I. is nonsense, so I wouldn't expect similar results in later generations.
As for the Regigigas run... I can see that one being either easy or hard.
Regigigas is among the Pokemon whose ability is designed to weaken it (in this case Slow Start, which halves Attack and Speed for 5 turns, resets upon a switch). So it won't be hitting too hard, even with level ups. Oh and they don't let Regigigas have Rest or Protect until Generation 8, so no recovery outside of Drain Punch and berries, thus stall tactics are out the window.
All that said, Regigigas still has insane natural bulk, and even after Slow Start its Attack is still quite usable for a playthrough. And if MDB can get his hands on some Heart Scales he has access to the elemental punches, which gives him great coverage options.
Not sure if it'll be easy, per se, but it is perfectly doable, and could be fun.
Longman comment over, thanks to MDB for this video. Staying tuned!
id love to see this run in third gen with the double battles! great video thank you
(3:03) Yeah, that is a weird oddity. Ghosts can actually be "affected" by moves like Wrap and Bind, but they don't deal damage. All they do is just stall the battle for a few turns. I've known about this oddity since the good old days, since I've had it happen to my Ghosts naturally at some points during the game.
(3:28) Which fossil did you take? I hear Tyrant of Kher Ridges is good for the Brothers' War draft algorithm. :P
(5:44) Who knows? Type-matchup logic is just weird like that.
(17:09) Did you try switching to Poliwrath to have it take the incoming Sky Attack in those situations?
(19:43) Ooh, a Regigigas run does sound interesting.
4:44 guess for the Seismic Toss Pokémon is Chansey!
I really love these two moves!
I’d love to see a gen 3 run with just these moves. I have a feeling that the pressure dusclops in the elite 4 will force you to train more than one Pokémon.
It'd be interesting to see how a run with the same rules would work in gen 3. You'd have exp share so you can have a proper team but there are more moves that can hit your ghost types and AI that doesn't use items at stupid times
The perfect music timing of the champion music changing when talking about the fridge. I see what you did there. 😅
The picture actually made me wonder, ever done challenge runs of the card games? Would that be a good idea? or a terrible one? might be worth having a look, those games have big nostalgia factor, wish they'd make newer ones
Totally not a terrible idea 🙂 Paraspecter does these on his channel. They're pretty fun to watch!
@@Nick_Slavik he's a absolute underrated CZcamsr. I love his tcg runs so much
Paraspector does really fun challenges in the GBC Pokemon Card Game!
I 100% agree with the comments on Paraspecter 🙂👍
@@Nick_Slavikagreed love Paraspector's TCG runs
My guess for the seismic toss TM is either the static Snorlax or Chansey if you want to grind in the safari zone. Both have high hp and special to tank late game foes like Lorelei
Your mistake was thinking that his choice was going to be a _good_ one.
man that was such a fun Haunter only run, you should do an only Nightshade or Seismic Toss run!
....wait a minute...
I still love the gen 1 Haunter sprite. It's so menacing looking!
ind love to see more move specified challenges like this
I thought it was gonna be someone ironic like Chansey or Kadabra, or someone where you think "they don't have hands????" like Electrode
Honestly I was surprised it wasn't Drowzee as your second pokemon considering how bulky their evolution line is and them resisting psychic would help. But maybe the grinding of the second pokemon would be more time consuming than just getting as high of a level as you can on Haunter.
Thank you for an interesting challenge video=3
Marathon complete, little sad but loved all these vids
The start of the challenge is kinda like the creepypasta with the Ghost type that mops the floor until it haunts you.
Oh MAN I finished watching this video and I love it but hey when are you playing Pokémon stadium 2 just finished entire stadium one play through for the 3rd time it never gets old man you should get a smeargle I mean how funny would it be to put everything to sleep and then belly drum for a million attack LOL anyway ceep up the getaway work
Definitely surprised me with that Seismic Toss user! I was fully expecting Snorlax
I’d like to see this challenge in other gens AND CAN’T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK’S!!!!!
A wasp nest is outside your front door? Get clothes that cover your body and get a burning barrel ready.
I'm glad you finally got to Seismic Toss your dead fridge outta there!
Uh
Good luck with the wasp nest though ghfdjkghdfkj also the entire time, either i just completely forgot what Gen 1 Ekans looked like, or i never paid attention, but that sure is a look. It sure has a face.
That Onyx Tackle thing reminded me of the' "Geodude sits alone in a cave" meme lol
I doubt this will ever be a challenge video but I'd like to see a: Can I beat Pokémon (whichever game) with only Male/Female exclusive Pokémon. By this I mean Pokémon that can only be one gender, so a Male only run would be Pokémon like Nidoking, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Tauros, etc. Then a Female only run would be Pokémon like Nidoqueen, Chansey, Kangaskhan, Jynx, etc.
I’d like to make a request for a video Pokémon insert Pokémon game here with only status moves this sounds impossible on paper, but moves like leech seed and a curse could be interesting
already done by SmallAnt and PointCrow with their "pacifist" runs where they only use status moves to inflict damage
I sooooo hope it's Chansey for the mystery pokemon xD
This would have been a good run to throw Poliwrath in the daycare. Since it's seismic toss doss damage equal to its level, and you wanted to focus on leveling just Haunter, it would have allowed you to "train" it in the background while pushing through the story
I don't know why, but I thought the most recent fallout run was the automatic recharge guns.
I guess the stealthy silencer run was more effective than you thought.
That was a cool challenge!
Wasp nest, always fun, I had to take care 2 at my dad's house this week
Yes! I have been one of those who was asking for the Regi run! Sorry if it caused you pain!
You know what I'm surprised hasn't been done yet? A Pokemon challenge run using only "not very effective" moves. Think you've got the skills to pull it off, MDB? ;)
Poliwrath striking that pose at the end... bro really thought he was on the team
05:44 My (possibly very lame) answer is this: Maybe each Type has its own different magical energy signature, and this energy is what's actually doing HP damage instead of the physical/material properties of the attack.
So a Rock Type attack has Rock Type uses Rock Type energy and a Normal Type attack uses Normal Type energy, regardless of whether the Pokemon itself is litterally made of rocks.
It also explains why a Pokemon like Beedrill or Venomoth, who have neither the Flying Type nor the Levitate Ability, can be hit by Ground Type attacks, dispite actually flying.
Can't wait for the Regigigas vid next Saturday!
Poliwrath was I think one of the first Pokémon I reached lvl 100 with! On the same file as a Kadabra I left at the daycare and forgot about until the endgame and realized it was in it's 60s-70s. 🤣
This was such a weird and fun one haha XD
about the rocks and ghosts... I think it's all about context, you know intent, maliciousness and that kinda stuff, pokemon are really into that
Can you beat Pokémon Red with only Ember? All kinds of Pokémon and as many Pokémon a necessary are allowed.
For regigigas, you could give the run slow start by playing with battle animations or not using emulator speed up for the first 4 gyms.
Thank goodness for Meowth Pickup service finally coming through. But it sucks about the Beedrill nest. Hopefully you can handle that with a lot more ease than the Meowth.
id love to see a variable power run. moves like psywave, magnitude(remember that move?), and i think present are the only ones
Hmm seismic toss pokemon that could help, i guess snorlax would be good option because of his bulkiness
That story about the fridge was cool
I had the feeling in the beginning of the run you would try to find a pokémon without arms to learn seismic toss because you mentioned arms.