Can I Beat Pokemon Fire Red with ONLY Meditite? 🔴 Pokemon Challenges ► NO ITEMS IN BATTLE
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In this video I take you along my ridiculous Pokemon Fire Red Challenge Journey through the world of Kanto in Generation 3 as I attempt to beat the entire game with only one Meditite without using Items in Battle! Am I able to do it? Only one way to find out!
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7:28 "So ready in fact that they never hit us"
*Gets hit by Water Pulse like a boss*
I was about to comment this
I noticed that too.
Pfft, it's just a training Waterfall, that's not a hit, that's just a freshener.
Nothing wrong with padding that resume.
Yeah, I just got to that part of the video 😂
In old Chinese tales people who are exceptionally strong willed could overcome any toxins thanks to meditation. Those tales might've been the inspiration behind the interaction between psychic and poison types
But pokemon is Japanese not Chinese
@@GelatinCoffee I'm from central Europe and somehow know many legends from the rest of the continent -_-
Japan and China were really close culturally many centuries ago and shared a lot of legends and folk tales.
@@OverlordParadox we don't get taught like, anything about the outside world in American schools 😅. Sorry, besides WW1 & WW2. You have to learn about it yourself over here
Reminds me of 神农尝百草
@@GelatinCoffee just like many other things in Japanese culture, like ramen, dumplings, and their entire writing system =P
I've always assumed the physic being strong against poison was a "mind over matter" thing. You could get sick, but with a strong enough will power you can continue going through life as if you weren't.
Also, if you're psychic, you can detect poison.
It could also be that psychic is the "mental" power, as in intelligence, and intelligence has created antidotes.
Also, it could be related to the "purging" your body of toxins -thing.
i figured it was maybe a psychic healer type thing
I think it has to do with poison being kind of an "unseen enemy"/assassin thing. The whole idea seems to be that psychics can detect assassins. While the Dark type took over this role in some respects from gen 2 onward, they seem to be specifically anti-psychic assassins, which is why they're weak to fighting.
So poison type implies physical assassin whereas dark type implies psychic assassin.
I heard it interpreted as "your own weapon against you" kind of deal
Pokemon black with one zorua and you might want a zorua in the back to negate illusion
No, wait. Allow him to use illusion during the run by selectively picking pokemon to have in the back.
Counter: gen 7 or above so no hm mons are needed and the run can really be 1 zorua
I think illusions should be the center point of such challenge, otherwise you just a week special attacker run
Not quite sure what the point is in a run where Illusion isn't used and abused as Zorua. Illusion is free content.
dude u sugest that to often in discord
but i like it
“I see every failed attempt. You see almost none of the failed attempts.”
That gave me a good laugh 😂
To get an idea of how good Pure Power and Huge Power are, Azumarill has effectively the same attack as Groudon.
With 252 EVs and Adamant nature btw. It is exactly 2 Attack off from matching Groudon's.
@@shadowtitanx3962when the ad doesn't disclose the important information 😂 thanks for letting plebs like me know
Yeah pure power and huge power (they are literally the same abillity) are easily some of the best abillities in the series right behind wonder guard. It's why azumarilll becomes such a beast in later gens.
And why you're best bet when facing a Mega Mawile, is to not let it attack
No Guard is up there too on the best abilities. Makes Machamp a beast.
@@connorfour Nah, it's good but also a double edge sword. You don't wan't 100% accurate hydro pumps and sleep powders against you.
Truant is best because it holds back the beast slaking from using 100% of his true power
@@N12015 Yea, but you'd rarely let Machamp or any fighting type fight a grass type, especially when theyre part Poison type. It's really only a double edge sword if the opponent is a fast Pokémon and has the right moves to one-shot you.
If you think about Psychic type as "Mind type" or "soul type" and Fighting type as "Body type" then the two's relations with bug and poison start to make more sense. If poison is a substance which destroys the body, it wouldn't be very affective against the mind/soul of a person. Bugs on the other hard are piddly and inconsequential when it comes to hurting the body of a human or animal of similar size, but they are quite terrifying, destroying the mind's concentration, rendering psychic type a poor match for bugs.
But poison is also weak against fighting
@@arkdraellhelldrake4079doesn't poison resist fighting?
@@connoromalley4004 Yeah, but is also weak AGAINST it as fighting also resists poison
@@arkdraellhelldrake4079Perhaps they intended it like an assassin tank matchup in RPGs neither are good against the other one.
Or just went with RNG assigning weakness and resistances lol.
@@arkdraellhelldrake4079 A person who is very highly trained would be in great shape and likely better at resisting the effects of poison (even if it does damage the body)
I've always figured that Ground-type can filter out and separate poisons and toxins. (Like filtering water with different types of dirt)
And Poison weak against Psychic gave me a mind over matter type of vibe. Princess Bride - The Battle of Wits (4min)
mind over matter is more vs fighting type but you can resist some drugs with a very good mental health like alcoholadiction
I agree with you there. Between the body and the mind, the body is the one doing the brute work when someone gets poisoned. But in this case it's a fortitude thing.@@epicfailscmback1184
Ironically, it would be the opposite. Pollution is a pretty big issue for soil and wetlands. If anything, Poison should be super effective against both ground and water.
@@FraserSouris ye thats right but poison would be so OP xD
My theory of why Psychic is super effective against Poison is, that back in Gen. 1 the Psychic Type may have been intended to be something of a Light Type, countering Poison, which was in part a stand-in for the yet nonexistent Dark Type. The Marsh Badge's Japanese name means "Gold Badge" probably because gold as a color is sometimes associated with psychic powers.
Then in Gen. 2 they appear to have changed their mind on that, making Dark immune against Psychic.
MDBAMA
I've always wondered: If you were a gym leader, what would your team consist of?
Yeah that is actually interesting
Super interesting, considering that gym leaders tend to have a specific type and his favorite pokemon is drowzee but his favorite type is poison
He’d definitely have the helix fossil. For algorithm purposes that is…
That would be an awesome conversation for grinding!
@@GelatinCoffeewhat about blue
Relying on Psychic so much made this run way harder for you
All you needed was:
-Brick Break
-Shadow Ball/Rock Slide
-Bulk Up
-Recover
There are so many mons you can set up on for free and just win. Lance's Gyarados legit can't kill you barring a crit once you set up.
I did a Meditite run in Emerald not too long ago and I had that exact move set. It was either sweep or be swept. But every fight was very easy once I had that move set. Just remembered I never did the Steven fight. Might do another one and try the postgame fight as well.
@@Gobl_943 Yeah, Bulk Up + Recover makes Gen 3 runs with Meditite very easy.
Also the meditite must have had TERRIBLE Atk DVs and EVs to have such low attack at level 73.
I was always see Psychic as also being related to humans, which is why it’s weaknesses are the three of the most common fears. As for the Psychic’s strengths: brain over brawn (fighting) and humans coming up with antidotes (poison)
Maybe why psychic is good against poison is because you might know something has poison in it so I guess
The first time I ever managed to successfully completed a monotype nuzlocke without whiping once was a psychic run in Scarlet and that was thanks almost entirely to my medicham smacking everything harder than anyone else. Pure/huge power is monstrous, especially on a pokemon with coverage for days.
Carry on the spirit, Medichop, I believe in you.
I always assumed psychic had the edge over poison as you wouldn't be able to poison someone with psychic abilities as they'd know you was trying to poison them or something lol
A lot of the early generation poison types like Grimer or Koffing were more toxic than poisonous so maybe it's the ability to move toxic substances without touching it that gives psychic types that advantage?
I always treated Psychic beating Poison as "stronger will to survive". As for ground, I assumed it was "rub some dirt in it" for when you get hurt and use that to just... Feel better
MDBAMA I've always thought it was weird that it says "The water is dyed a deep blue..." So they dyed the entire ocean. So my question is "What color do you think water normally is in the pokeverse?
This made me burst out laughing
MDBAMA: After the Metronome Challenge what would you say is the worst Pokemon Challenge in your mind that you have ever done and by that I mean the one that was the least fun to do.
I think he's answered this in the most recent video in his Vlogs playlist, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but. I think he said that Magikarp was rough, but that metronome was not so much rough as it was boring. Since it wasn't so much grinding and awful stats as it was waiting for good moves
@@GelatinCoffee When I am referring to worst I meant one he had the least fun doing
It is said that someone with a strong mind is able to purge poison and ground actually is used to store toxic waste until it is no longer dangerous.
Pure Power is an AWESOME ability! I remember doing this kind of run in Emerald. While it was hard. Once I got Brick Break, Bulk Up and Shadow Ball. It was game over for most of the major fights. Physical Shadow Ball with Bulk Up on a Pokémon with Pure Power trivialized almost every fight. I did struggle with Roxanne, Tate & Liza and the Elite Four but once I set up, it was just a straight up knockout spree. Thanks for doing this challenge, wonder if it'll be any harder in the Gen 4 games with the physical special split?
MDBAMA: Aside from the Nancy Drew and Pokémon Stadium lets plays, what was the best and funniest lets play you did?
I was working myself up over why MDB didn't use shadow ball. Would've made all the Alakazam fights against the rival and Sabrina so much more trivial
Psychic vs Poison in universe explanation: just a shot in the dark, but I think tai chi practictioners can use chi to expel toxins from their bodies.
I dunno 🤷♂️
3 years of watching and I still am blown away by how grounded and human you are. No matter how well the channel does or what the sub count says you have always been the same person. This is one of the only channels I watch that I refuse to skip the add segment on. You deserve every penny of that revenue. Keep being you man. Between supporting your whole family to how normal of a human being you are I feel like we could have a good time over a beer sometime. That it if you ever visit the US. As someone with degenerative tissue in their back and shoulders I feel for your health issues and wish you the best. Hope to see the channel over a million subs by years end. You deserve it like nobody else on CZcams.
Imagine MDB saying he's getting helix fossil, but in reality taking doom, ekhm... Dome fossil. It would be hilarious
Or put in completely unrelated footage of getting the egg from a different game
@@GelatinCoffeeI think he did that once as a joke sometime ago.... Cant remember for sure tho, could be mandela effect
Yeah so, when I did this run I took rock slide from rock tunnel. And I think that might have been really important I guess.
A trivialized basically every flying type. And it was pretty good damage against psychic types. I didn't even use Shadow Ball but I did pick up the TM to keep in my back pocket
I don't see Rock Slide on Meditite's Gen 3 move list
Your sure you weren't using Medicham?
@@Buddy26420 oh, yeah I let it evolve. I want doing an exact copy of this challenge. I figured that since medicham learned it, so did meditite did too. Weird that it's THAT different.
Meditite is one of those Pokémon I don't think I have ever used.
Never know if you boost attack OR boost defense with it.
I am with you on that, nothing turns me away from a pokemon quite like being able to 2 shot it with decent moves from a decent attacker and not even super effective, and then wild pokemon around it surviving better. Also taking almost no damage in return. Big no in my books
Oh, I thought you said that meditate was a move you never used before, not the pokemon.
"They never hit us in the water gym" *gets hit by Starmie*
One of the earliest Taoist works is the I Ching, the Book of Changes. It is a Divination manual that has been used as an influence for a lot of in game mechanics, one of which is elemental type charts. Psychic beating Poison is probably an interpretation from that.
MDBAMA: your rules allow you to use held items, but I don't think you mention them in your videos much. Do you switch up held items during your runs, e.g. berries to combat predictable status conditions from some gyms, type-boosting items for particularly vital moves, or do you tend to keep them pretty consistent during the run?
Great video! I thought it was really interesting how Aerodactyl's move patterns changed. I wonder if it was because you had more speed or if it was because you had more hp.
Reasons why I love MDB: Random tangent about type advantages making no sense in the middle of a Pokemon challenge 🤣 Seriously though MandJTV has a video explaining all the type matchups that I may need to watch after this one
great video always enjoy these pokemon challenges and your oblivion challenges as well keep up the great work
12:32 I discovered this chanel when MandJTV did reaction to one of your challenges.
I then promptly went over your backlog and watched every single one of your Pokemon challenges, and I'm continuing to do so.
Yoooooo, I JUST did this yesterday! (Not planned)
Fighting Psychic is super good in Kanto. Mine was a modest nature though. It was... not optimal.
At least the Psychic is going to hit a little harder... 🥲
MDBAMA
I hope you’re feeling well MDB! I was curious on whether or not you would attempt something Gen 6 or later and what your thoughts were on that? Maybe something like Honedge only? 🤔
Awesome! Love your videos as always buddy keep up the great work! Id love to see a challenge with hitmonlee & hitmonchan in fire red, would be fun. Hope to see it someday
This was a great video MDB!
MDBAMA: Aside from Pokemon, Elder Scrolls and Fallout, are there any other game franchises you've thought about doing challenge runs for?
I think the reason no one knew what ability Bruno's Machamp had is because normally it gets ko'd in one hit in normal playthroughs
No, it's because they're young and used to later games. No Guard literally doesn't exist in Generation 3; Guts was the Machop line's only ability this generation.
you know i would love to see a tauros challenge in whatever game you want, really fun video btw man keep it up!
I haven’t slept. Saw a new mah-dry-bread video. Immediately watched video not caring about my sleep deprivation. Worth it.
Can you please do Lotad only 🙏
He did already, but he saw that lotad really sucks so he added in seedot for help
I think it's possible that you could have beaten this at a lower level with +6 Calm Mind and Psychic. All about timing the setup. Moveset of Calm Mind, Psychic, Recover, and Brick Break.
The fact that you didnt know that pure power is an op ability allready is a huge part of why i like your content. your just a guy that likes some pokemans
He’s surprised by Pure Power, just wait until he sees Huge Power. XD
Thank you for your hard work. Looking forward to the HeartGold Munchlax, whenever it might be. Hope you enjoyed your meal.
I have some ideas for a challenge run;
Pokémon Platinum with only a Magby
Pokémon Platinum with only TM moves
Pokémon Platinum with only a Stunky
Pokémon Black with only gift Pokémon
Pokémon Black with only a Roggenrola
Pokémon Red with only TMs and HMs
I tend to think that ground being good against poison is akin to charcoal biscuits and the like... The poison is like an upset stomach "damaging" you and some powder dirt will fix that... Kinda weird, but it lets me remember and kinda makes sense, which is often the best that you can hope for :)
Maybe the reason Psychic is strong against Poison is because willpower can help overcome dire circumstances?
Just subbed to celebrate your 420k subscribers! After watching Scott and Jrose for years, I think it's finally time I join the Dry Bread gang too just to complete the trifecta.
Please do a collab/race/something video with Scott's Thoughts someday if you're up for it! He's mentioned before that he'd be down for it I think.
Go little Meditite, go!! Kick all the butt, hell yah!!!
I've also never heard of that ability before, and I did look it up, and it seems to be exclusive to the Meditite family. Neat! Good for them.
10:17 "was that the first hard rival fight....ever?"
And i literally just rewatched the Krilin video
I'm sure there have been other hard Pokemon Tower Rival fights, at some point in gamer history.
The reason that fight is seen as super easy is that you can't progress in the tower until you get the Silph Scope from Celadon City, so most players go there first, but the Rival's team is balanced around the player facing him as soon as they reach Lavender Town, which makes him a lot weaker.
Also, No Guard only comes with Gen 4, Machop line only has Guts in Gen 3. Lots of people have difficulty remembering the various changes between the generations.
This was an incredible video, though. Great effort on your part, particularly with getting past Lance. Hope you've let your nerves rest a bit.
Tip for future runs where you need to grind just outside the starting town, you can return to your house and talk to your Mom to have her heal your pokemon faster than a pokemon center will on top of being closer.
This applies to most games from what I remember.
I'm glad you are having more good days than bad days
MDBAMA: do you prefer the weird pokemon challenges (only x type, only one pokemon, etc) or the weird move challenges (only starting moves, only HMs, etc)? is one usually easier than the other?
love your videos btw! your voice is honestly kind of soothing and sometimes i use your pokemon playlist to go to sleep lol. not sure if that'll be received as a compliment or an insult but i promise i mean it as a compliment!!!
I have always been curious how many trys those fights take. How about you Just add a Counter to the top right were we see how many trys Ur in ? I think That would be awesome!
Keep it up always Love Ur videos on saturday!
MandJ does a pretty good job explaining every type in one of his videos.
Okay, I'm no linguist, but Bulbapedia says the Japanese psychic type translates more accurately to "Esper," or "ESPer" I think, which is someone that has "extrasensory perception." I think the reasoning for psychic being strong against poison is that an ESPer would sense someone sneaky with a poisoned weapon coming after them or be able to perceive the poison in a poisoned food/drink item and thus be able to stop the poisoning before it happens.
Just look at Espeon: it’s not just the Psychic Eevee, it’s quite literally the ESP Eevee.
Loved this 1
amazing vid as always.
One day he will tell us what fossil he chose. Until then, I’ll continue to ask what fossil he chose.
Mdbama: which fossils did you take? Also great run, thank you. Love watching your stuff, happy your neck is getting better.
Hey MDB, great Challenge again.
I have two ideas for some challenges. How about a Vulpix only run, this one in gen 4. It can learn some decent moves and fire is decently strong in Sinnoh. I think, you might get an interesting run out of it. The second one would be an Eeveelution run. Not to hard i guess, but you need some easier runs from time to time as well. If you want a harder one, you should go for gen 2. You get at maximum 5 and in crystal you should be able to evolve all before the league. The easiest should be gen 4 in Sinnoh. You can get 7 in total with a wide variety.
Psychic in the Pokémon games is a manifestation of the mind (people are afraid of ghosts, bugs, and the dark). Poison can be cured by science, ie. the mind, ie. psychic types.
That ending was rough, who knew scary face could be that dangerous. Also, if you want I've got a suggestion in the form of pokemon gold/silver with a single Murkrow
Super Thanks for being my melatonin. When I have a hard time falling asleep, I just play your challenges in the background lol. Also do people confuse you for Brian David Gilbert? I thought you were him for the longest time for some reason.
Sorry, I've never heard of that guy before. Super thanks for the super thanks though!
I’ve stopped questioning the Pokémon type chart. 😂
Also commenting because algorithm 👍
I love that mah dry bread and jrose have 0 beef amongst each other. Reason being, if you watch one of their videos then the other person gets recommended based on the algorithm. Everyone wins~
The reason is because I like him, not because our videos promote each other unintentionally
We'd be just as nice to each other if we did different genres
I agree with all of your musings about poison type effectiveness, lol
MDB: *Questioning the purpose of Poison*
Gamefreak: He's asking too many questions. Take him out.
I didn't expect this challenge to give me an existential chrisis about poison types, but here we are
For the question about poison and psychic relation my best guess is that people can train to become immune to poison and you need the willpower to do so.
Hey MDB what fossil did you take I forgot to pay attention. And 420k subscribers, Nice!
My theory with Psychic type being strong against Poison was because during conception, Psychic types possess mystic and curative powers. Most Pokémon that learned Recover were Psychic types (or evolve into one) in Gen I and II. And Rest is a Psychic type move as well. I kinda understand how Ground RESIST Poison, but I don't get how they hit them Super Effectively.
I saw the whole psychic vs poison matchup like this. If you're going to get assassinated your killer might poison your food or something like that Hitman style but if you're a psychic you'd see it coming before it happens.
In medieval Europe, there was a popular form of poison cure called “terra sigilata”, or sealed earth. Essentially, it was a baked clay biscuit with a stamp on it that supposedly imbued it with anti-poison powers. They actually did work against an ingested poison if someone ate it soon after: much like activated charcoal today, the clay would absorb the posion in the stomach and let it pass through without absorbing into the bloodstream.
About the neck problems; I'm sure you are probably doing many things to strengthen it as well as heal, but if you aren't already, try incorporating light weight dumbbell or cable shrugs in workouts to build strength and resistance. Glad to hear your health is steadily improving!
MDBAMA
Love your content, MDB! My question is if you have a specific overall goal in mind when selecting challenges to complete? For example, some content creators focus on completing solo runs with every Pokémon in a certain game, or perhaps monotype Nuzlockes of each type in a game.
Do you select your challenges on account of working toward an overall goal, or are your decisions more guided by challenges you find intriguing?
It's funny you mention that about poison. In Temtem, poison is super effective against water types due to the contamination reason. That is an interesting question though. I like Hazama's explanation on it. They say "mind over matter". Now, when I think of Psychic, I think of normal people in real life with abilities like reading minds, seeing into the future and being able to commune with ghosts. This is to explain why dark and ghost are super effective to them. I can't forget about bug though. Maybe they're weak to parasites?
Thier is actually a good explanation why. Well because they said so. That's the best I got.
MDBama will you do a challenge race with one of the other challengeTubers (like who can finish the game faster with water onix for example)
By the way I enjoy your videos they’re great to listen to/watch to relax 😊
Lol all this time and I just realized the guy blocking your path to Saffron City just wanted to spill the tea (gossip) kinda like schmoozing someone to distract and get past them 😂😂
Psychic is super effective against poison because it's mind over matter. Just like with fighting is Brains beats brawn.
About Rival Fival's paralysis shenanigans with Exeggcute: there are berries hidden in little dark grass tufts around the map. I don't remember if any of them are Cheri Berries but it wouldn't hurt to check for next time.
The explanation of psychic and poison interaction is that with knowledge and study (which are the characteristics of psychic type) you can discover antidotes to poisons
Super-thanks has to become the new Ad-Meme!!!
For Psychic > Poison, I've always thought it was because scientists (so smart people) come up with antidotes and medicine and stuff.
MDBAMA
Would you ever do a 1HitKO run?
Also love the content ❤
Someone’s actually made a video explaining why types are effective or not very, and it’s pretty cool.
Wow. Pure power felt needed to win this run. That's wild
I have been summoned with questions about poison type matchups. I don't remember where I heard this but supposedly, psychic is strong against poison because the mind is stronger than what can affect the body. Poison is weak against ground because hazardous wastes (which make up part of the poison type) are buried underground to neutralize them (even though the ground itself isn't stopping them, they're put in sealed barrels).
Mdbama: Have you considered a Pokémon 2 stadium play through with the guys? The first one was really fun
My theory when it comes to ground being strong against poison is what elderly people said to you when you got a cut/ infection, “ just rub some dirt into it”.
This man forgot ghost is physical in gen 3 and smashed his head against various psychic types when he coulda had Shadow ball the ENTIRE time, only slotting it onto his moveset by Lorelie and even THEN not noticing the damage bump till Agatha...never change bread man
Some type matchups follow a logic where you're not supposed to take their names literally, but assume they represent some other similar-enough concept. In the case of Psychic beating Poison, I think I remember an explanation where you're supposed to sorta scale them down, so from psychic powers you're left with willpower or mental fortitude and poison becomes just sickness or disease. Thus, we arrive at the idea that someone with enough willpower can overcome the effects of, say, a fever.
In hindsight, you may have wanted to use the moves Brick Break, (Or high jump kick with wide lens), Shadow Ball, Meditate, and Recover. The limiting factor to this move set would’ve been an opponent you could set up against, and while tough, you probably could have set up against lances Gyrados earlier using this method.
That does remove the psychic against Agatha, so I’m not sure how effective shadow ball would’ve been against Arbok and Golbat, but it would still have likely worked in your favor.
Still, you won regardless. Congrats.
Psychic has a few theories: it can "foresee" the poison to avoid it, mind over body, psychic shield, or it "knows" how to detox it. Ground = charcoal, which is the original antidote to many poisons (I think there was an interview where they confirmed that).
I always thought that Psychic and Poison interacted the way they did because of the whole "Mind over body" thing. Allowing you to neutralize the poison when it enters your body by sheer force of will.
Man, that Dragonite was tough. If only you had Dragon Hidden Power or something :^)
22:30 you got the sped def drop, and shadow ball and psychic were doing the same damage before the drop, so psychic was probably the play. I know its probably just habit thinking Shadow ball is buffed off that but whatever lol
Ah man this "what is poison in pokémon canon?" Talk brings me back to Lockstin's explaining every single move in existence series xd
Man I had forgotten about that channel.
I don't even see him on twitter anymore.