Debating the criticism of Erling Haaland 👀 An average player doesn’t score 52 goals - Shaka
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- ESPN FC’s Dan Thomas, Shaka Hislop, Craig Burley and Jurgen Klinsmann discuss Erling Haaland’s dip in production in his second season at Manchester City.
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All of a "sudden" everyone is recognizing Håland's faults. On his way to a 2nd consequetive Golden Boot
epl boot?
not european
Playing on a team designed to feed him, he needs to deliver.
Remember when people blasted Nunez and we know Nunez needs to be creative too. He can't just sit and wait for the ball near the box.
I think this season, most people were criticising his finishing not his link-up play.
@@memeguyTMWell Nunez wasn't and isn't top scorer in the league and champions League
Any strike would be getting the golden boot if they played for City.
Haaland is bang average.
These people are delusional
Haaland has the best minutes per goal ratio of any player to compete in the champions league scoring on an average of every 64 minutes, fastest player to 10,20 and 30
Champion league goals most of these broken before joining city, Quickest and youngest player to reach 50 goals in Bundesliga history, broke the epl top
scoring record for 1 season in his first season
Ronaldo: Minutes per goal or assist at 21 was
156.
Messi: Minutes per goal or assist at 21 was 103.
At 22 Messi had 92 goals and 46 assists in 200 games while Haaland had 187 goals and 44 assists in 236 games
He offers a lot more the tap ins and if scoring them was so easy every striker would do it
Haaland has played most of his career in weaker teams compared to Barca and Man United
playing with the like of Durtmund until he joined
city
This dude can reach any heights
Ghosts in big games and can't do anything without service, as proven once again tonight. He'll never be the best player unless he learns how to create his own chances
@@TheR3alAntagon1st obsession with dribbling has ruined football
@CR7_THEGOAT777 exactly. Man city against Madrid had an obsession for possession. Instead of thinking of how to get the ball in the net thru a tap in.
People have a subconscious bias against Haaland because his game is more effective than showy. That’s all there is to it. were he dribbling around everyone, and the subject of a bunch of cool “technical elegance” highlight comps, rather than just leading the uefa cup winners in scoring, he’d be the toast of the town. But since all he does is make smart runs, body grown men and score a ton of goals, while that may win games (and domestic leagues [and continental leagues]), it does not empower the nerds on the internet watching to feel like sophisticates. So he’s “one-dimensional”.
He plays for a club with 115, a club substantially less popular than spurs in Britain with a substantially smaller UK fanbase than west ham! Hence city not that relevant
It’s not between effective and showy, it’s between versatile and limited. Haaland is very good at a very specific thing, but not so good at link up play in the final third (which would have been useful in a closed game as the one against arsenal). It’s all not the end of the world. As long as he keeps up his numbers noone will really care.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 Honestly. If he scored through a spoonfed chance, everyone would be calling him a mentality monster, but sincd he didn't, he'll get called out.
You're probably the type that unironically listens to the "Halaand, Halaand!" song. His link up play is terrible and he can't create his own goals and isn't good scoring headers. He's a good striker no doubt, but he's no where near the technical prowess of Ibrahimovic, Benz, Kane, etc. This is why Mbappe is clear. Imagine Mbappe at City.
@@NPCSpotter I'm Mbappe's biggest fan. Mbappe without the ball on his feet is AWFUL. If KM is on Man City, he'll demand the offensive attack to be left-side orientated and completely obliterating the fluid motion of Man City's offense. I still think Mbappe is better INDIVIDUALLY. But Haaland is one of those players to elevate their teams ceiling.
This happened to salah, but to have 29 goals bro with 13 games left in the whole season, he can still end up with 40.
Salah has a lot of abilities that Halaand doesn't have .Dribbling ,pace ,team player ....He had the same too .
@@jeremymakokha4797 yes true but when can score 40 goals who cares
@@markxcolle15 This is the problem with people who think football is all about goals .Salah has a huge overall impact on the game than Halaand
Imagine Halaand playing for a struggling team ...he can't even score ten .Like he struggles In Norway .
@jeremymakokha4797 no no I'm not one of those people I'm a liverpool fan I'm just saying if u have a 49 goal scorer on ur team u most likely going to win
His overall gameplay can do work but people seems to be forgetting the guy is still a kid. Benz wasn't doing the link up at Haaland age neither was Kane. He'll get better
Kane been doing it relax, go back kid.
Yeah you watched Benzema lately. Benzema have been playing like a 10 almost his career since his Lyon days until when Ronaldo left then he became a proper 9
@@BC-mj7gjfacts bro Benz was a talented young (footballer)
watch Benzema's Lyon highlights. He was always champagne.
Bro what? Young benz was moving like r9. Don't talk about stuff udk about kid
All this Haaland talk seems a little petty for me. I'm pretty sure any other player with those kind of numbers playing in the Prem there wouldnt even be a conversation around his abilities. I mean what is happening,
City have never really played to his strengths..
the media will sure build you up to tear you down. Haaland is the best pure striker in the world. It’s him, mbappe & vini as the best in the world
Those two aren’t Mbappe level. Stop it.
Dude please I beg you in the name of Jesus 😂 halaand is ok but not best the world with those guys u say check Kane check Benezema those her strikes
Pure ??? Nahhhhh .the guy got the skills .he's a top in player .he's the weak link in that city side
No he is not lol
Mbappe and Vini are way better than Haaland. I will include Bellingham as well. It's Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham and then Haaland in 4th place.
I do not know what people want from Haaland? He is not a dribbler, not a good passer within tight spaces,... Overall, he is not a mid-fileder. These facts have been know from DAY1 (and even back to 5 yrs ago). He has been brought in to City to convert CREATED(!) goal opportunities and he has been doing that quite perfectly since DAY1 (2-3 misses here and there happen to everybody). The main problem is that there are fewer and fewer CREATED(!) goal opportunities. This is not quite issue with Haaland. Not at all. This is about City's struggling mid-field in the attacking phase. Well, maybe struggling is too strong word... still a good mid-field, but nothing magical anymore. They should not even expect many goals since they create fewer opportunities these days. It does not matter if this is for Haaland, Foden, Alvarez or other players (Silva, Grealish). Create more and Haaland will convert his part.
Maybe that's what's generating the noise... Probably people forgot how very limited a footballer he was... They think about him as as magical player who can conjure something outta nothing... Either to take a shot outside the box or just help out... Now that he's been on a poor run of form... Missing gilt edge chances... Seems people are now realizing he's not that image in their head..
Defenders are also quickly learning how to handle him better. Especially when they go hard on him... Rudiger would be the worst of them... He's got no option than to improve other sides of his game
Facts
Yeah convert against English relegation teams like Luton
Yes! So true. 👏👏 And Halaand don't deserve all that criticize.
Keane didn't say Haaland is an average player. He simply said his all round play is weak and he is the best goal scorer in the world.
Scoring goals has never been an issue for Haaland we know that, but as a player you don’t see a lot out of him. Last season he had 50+ goals in his debut season at Manchester City, this season he has 29 goals in all competitions top scorer in the Premier League despite being injured and he’s still on pace to score 40+ goals even though his recent form is concerning. He’s a victim of his own success with people now calling him a “one season wonder” and he’s seen as overrated.
Ok he’s a little overrated because people are acting as if he’s more than just a good goalscorer when the reality is that’s all he’ll ever be. Even if you’re a striker that scores a lot of goals that automatically doesn’t make you a great player especially when you don’t contribute to other factors of the game. One of the reasons why he doesn’t have a Ballon Dor to his name is because he’s had too many high profile games for Manchester City where he has 0 goals and 0 assists and limited touches of the ball and the games are exposing his weaknesses that everyone is noticing right now. Sometimes it’s not his fault that the attackers don’t create enough for him in certain games and that’s where Pep’s system doesn’t help him because if Kevin De Bruyne isn’t at his best, who’s feeding Haaland the ball. He’s a pure striker and that’s the only way he can thrive. He’s a player that you can’t write off because Erling Haaland will find a way to bounce back and we’re all criticizing him and my opinion on him is how excellent of a goalscorer he is, but sometimes as a player he can be very poor and he has to improve on that despite the role of a striker being very different.
People need to relise that they are not man city coach, if the coach want Haaland to stick to his position and not drop to be involved as a number 10, or false 9 the who are you to decide what Haaland should be doing. Haaland is young, scoring goals because he is a true number 9, top striker. There is nothing wrong with him. Right now teams want a good number 9's but they are rare, tell me 1 player who is a pure number 9 and is better at it than Haaland?, don't even mention Mbappe as he is not a pure number 9. Harry Kane stats now are similar to Haaland if not just a difference of 1 or 2 but Haaland plays in a competitive league. A number 9 is judged by goals, if u want passes you check a CDM, IF YOU WANT ASSISTS GO TO CAM. Thats why even Arteta doesn't know what to do with Jesus and Nketia the 9's who can't do their job, Arsenal is even better playing Havertz Infront than those failed two
Fact! Yes yes finally someone really understand that Halaand is pure nr 9 and he doing his job great as it should be👏👏
People had said this when he first turned up in the Premier league. But when he was scoring like that, nobody really cared. Agree that if his goals dry up, the voices are (justifiably) louder. Harry Kane did add that to his game so perhaps he can
Erling Haaland has the most goals in the Premier League this season, yet a lot of people think that he’s not having a good season. I don’t want to slander him, but I’m happy that people actually watch the games and know the limitations he has as a footballer when he’s not scoring.
With the chances he gets, he should be scoring more.
Bruhh...His link up play states doesn't suit his goals... We as a hard-core fan's wants more from our players, nothing personal
Talk about complete strikers like Suarez, Harry, Lewandowski and Benzema they play real football
Beauty of football is in the link up play *that's all we wants*
@@DanielAstro44 he's young. How even was Kane at this age.
@of_tcm I just want more from haaland that's all
@@DanielAstro44 nobody cares what you want. What is important is that he helps City win and he does that by scoring goals. Not by wasting time doing nice link ups
His technique was called average. Not his talent as a player
City have to be the only team who can have the top goal scorer in the league get criticized for being a poor player. This is insane.
I don't think France coach watches Arsenal games😂
Beware Villa,that is all I have to say,because Haaland might just score a hat trick ,just to shut the pundits up.They are also forgetting that Haaland has been injured out,for a few months
Haaland is a scoring machine but talk about link up play, he's still very average compared to top strikers like Suarez, Harry, Benzema, Osimhen and Lewandowski
Osimhen? Do you watch Serie A? How old are the rest of the players compared to Haaland?
Sesko, Goykeres and Hojlund also better all around play.
@@matrixxx3662 bunch of useless players you’ve just named
@@CR7_THEGOAT777 kid. Go protest for LGBTQ
Current generation full of trash 🗑
Missing comment imo...He is in the toughest league in the world, and they had a season to work him out....Now, with injuries he is second thinking where last year he just blew others aside...Jurgen will understand that...a split second second is all a defender needs to alter trajectory, or slightly interfere in a strikers movement......
How was Kanes link up play at 23?
Haaland is 23 yo…this is nonsense.
Norway has Odegaard, Nusa, and Bobb aswell. Not only up to Haaland
Last season, Mark Ogden said that Man City made a mistake by buying Erling, that he had made them worse and that Kane would have been better. All these other clowns on ESPN FC nodded along. It's not about sporting performance.
Mark Ogden always says someone is messing up
@friendlybane
And City won the Treble last season. Ogden is negative by default.
@@Photosoflifethe main difference last season compared to previous seasons was city's defense not haaland, they could have won the treble even with Kane and they would have probably done better this season than what they are doing
@@GauravYadav-bf7qj Funny you mention Kane. Because people said the same thing about him at Bayern and he’s not going to win a single trophy with them despite Bayern being insanely dominant in Germany. Haaland is a beast.
@@Photosoflife have you seen bayer mate? He is just unlucky with bayer and tuchel being their manager. Bayern almost lost last season as well, BVB just bottled it
I love his speed, lay-off passes, athleticism n power. But they knew he still yet not an all round elite footballer, then why pushing him to win Ballon D'or desperately..."Close the shop" Craig Burley
Deschamps doesn't like to play the best centre backs, just like Laporte back when he was at the peak of defensive football
Am I the only one who feels city players dont feed him anything at all this season. I dont know for what reason I see him making the runs but nobody passes him the ball
You’re not the only one. If you actually watch the matches you can see he’s starved. Yet the myth lives on, anyone can score lots of goals with the kind of service he gets at City. Pep has never designed the team for him as as the popular belief is. That goes for last season, too, only then KDB was in better form.
@@torgeirgimmingsrud2439 spot on
Haaland is a ghost
Average striker doesn't score 52 goals, average all round player can, if he's genius striker at the same time.
If your a decent striker playing at a good team that create 4/5 chances for you in a game u can score that amount of goals
@@richardansah5283 So why Aguero and Gabrael Jesus didnt score it? or are u saying they are not decent? U all are acting as if Haaland is the first striker in Pep's Man City. No one can do it, which is why no one has done it except Haaland. Top lying to yourself. The kid is special and you dont have to support Man City to know that. A genuis striker who above average all round player like Aguero couldnt score 52 goals. Stop the cap
@@danielalfresco969 when Aguero was there was he ever fit for whole a season and how many other strikers did city have at the time Haaland plays 95% of the games and look at the service he gets so u dont think if Aguero was getting the same service as Haaland he wouldnt score them amount of goals? And Jesus doesnt want to score goals if you seen him play this man when he gets in the box he rather try and go past player rather then shooting
This is better than other conversations. Thank you for a positive IQ conversation on this
Halaand deserve more respect for what he has done and still do. Atage 23 as a strike he doing his job really good already. How many can handle 5-6 defender or got that attention like him? You want him to score more and more goals without seeing he is the only one that got all defender on him. And not mention MC miderfield this year strugler a lot and need to improve too.
Haaland is only good against weak opponents, as long as you lock off the service to him in key areas, he can't do anything, another Van Nistelrooy, but bigger n stronger
Have u really watched van Nistelrooy they are two different types my brother come again or go back n watch his matches
Then say mbappe should defend lol but Haaland don't have to do anything but sit in box
Aside from this being his second season, teams have learned how to neutralize him. Addrd to that Haaland is still a young player learning the game AND as importantly his game is shaped by Pep. This latter point is the overarching in my opinion and biggest factor.
He’s good and he’ll only get better. Also he’s playing on a team that doesn’t play to his strengths. His movement of the ball is HORRID. But when he learns that, he’ll be a complete player. 52 goals? Ya that’s no accident
Saliba and gabriel huh? I dont want to hear the exuses next season
What did FODEN DO?
A striker lack of service can def affect their form. Haaland is still the top goal scorer despite that lol if he was in madrid his stats would be tripled lowkey.
Mbappé --- Haaland --- Vinicius
Beast!
@@cellbiologyshorts9105overrated trio
For me Julian Alvarez should be a regular starter 😉 give the Wonder kid a chance 💯🥇😉💥👍
Did really good the 6 match hasland missed only scored 2 even playing lower table team😂😂
Alvarez is not any wonder kid... He's good but not on those levels of Aguero... Aguero was showing more from age 18 as a top striker
There is a reason why top teams did not go after haaland only sold for 50 million.
Roy keane was a great player, who sometimes isn’t a great commentator. Some of his remarks make him look really stupid.
I am below avg amateur player and will score 52 goals if I am a striker for this city team and all of those players play for me to score:D
Haaland is still the highets goalscorer in the league on pace to win the golden boot for a second time lol.
Dude is probably having a downtime, he might change gears suddenly and start scoring as he clearly has the skill.
Playing against the best 2 centre backs in the league 😂😂😂 .against arsenal. Vd kept him quiet on his own and didn't need help .he dose nothing against big defences. Its a header here or a shot here I don't see him doing what salha does leaving 4 defender's on their arses with skill or against Chelsea players around him curling it In top corner. 2 seasons now Hartland I don't see any of his goals up for goals of the season.
Yeah what about first match vs liverpool he scored and vvd couldn't do nothing 😂😂
erling h is 23 not 32 kane and benzimar 35 why does he have to drop back this is not spurs behind him kdb best in the world bernardo foden grealish rodrie
Benzema at 20 was 10 times this tap in merchant is you clearly didn't watch him at lyon
All 50 of Haaland's goals were tap-ins. 😂😂
Fooling defenders and getting into position to score an Easy Tap in
Is a skill that gets stupidly Overlooked these days
He wont make it into Bayern team, also at Barca their style is better suited to Lewandowski
Guy says Arsenal have the two best center backs
when the likes of Henry and Zlatan want to criticize haaland, then we will sit down and listen
Average player, Elite goal scorer
Oh he was at Madrid he would be scoring 60 plus goals every season . They will play to his strengths. City don’t do that
If you need the whole team to play to your strengths before you can flourish, then you're not good enough I'm sorry.
@@Rawly-su1vz it depends on the team and the systems they use. At city it’s always about the system because Pep is a genius l. At Madrid it’s about individual talent and letting that shine.
So Messi did deserve the balón d oro last year
Haaland is very is to counter
Rate harry Kane very highly.. no DOUBT that he’s better than Harlan
Hallard is not good for City system.
Halaand is an average player ...Good squad
Still choosing Mbappe over haaland
Haaland is the best Keane is jealous of city 🏙️
People acting like the gunners don’t have the best defense in the league with rice , saliba and Gabriel …… not to mention Arsenal whole team was set back basically parking the bus the first half . Halland was operating with 0 space and his wingers foden and Silva went missing… it’s not surprising halland didn’t do much y’all especially with the way pep restricts his movements.
yeah, just stay in his lane...score goals
Halaand can not even control the ball
Halaand is Lukaku with more goals...
Nah lukaku has a better skilset
@@mymemories925he started watching football last week
Lukaku can definitely hold up play and use his head better... Probably have similar features in their touches... I would even say Lukaku is a better long range passer of the ball to bring in his mates...
Haaland compensates for these obvious deficiency by scoring alot... It's cos he's been on a poor form of late that these noise have slowly but surely crept in
Lukaku linkup play is very good something Haaland cannot do just watch Lukaku's assist to Tielemens against England recently
He's been sussed out
Craig is so biased , had this been lukaku or a Chelsea player he would’ve ton them apart.
This is a stupid conversation.
That's when you know you are Him! When your form is bad and still top scorer!😂😅😅🤣 PREMIUM TEARS
Shaun Goater (the only true Man City legend) would have scored 50 Goals in that team
Aguero couldnt. stop lying to yourself.
This guys says Haalard should win ballon d or
Gabriel is good but "arguably the best center back in the premier league" he is not. Top 5 this season though
He is the best this season
Name the others that have been better
If Halaand didn't play at City his numbers would be 15 to 20 goals a season, say even at Arsenal
Thats why he choose City, hes not stupid
Isn't it great that we can look at his numbers before he played for City?
Noob
You know he played for other football team before Man City, right? the amount of rubbish kids like you put online is hilarious. You are either brain dead not to know he score more than that for other clubs, or u are just a miserable fella. Both can be true
@@friendlybane You mean German League ? 🤔
Haaland is overrated, so whatever Saliba and Gabriel did can't be considered as out of the world. Stopping Haaland is easier, more difficult is to prevent KDB to produce tap ins. That's where Arsenal's mid field was exceptional in the last game.
when you're in a made up team by a sheikh, of course you're gonna be criticized. Won the treble like nobodies business when every other team in europe were and still struggling after covid lol. So yeah, if you did 50 goals last season, then people would expect 60 this season playing for this team of mercenaries. Also they would expect him to perform and be the match winner on important games. No point scoring 30 goal in useless duels.
Put Kane in this City team, they'd have maximum points right now. Trust and Believe, the Kane curse can't touch City.
Exactly, guardiola turns every player into a winner and he would’ve gotten the “curse” out of kane
U Crazy Kane has bottled everything. The mf made Bayern Munchen lose a league for the first time in a decade. I rather have havertz over kane
thing is tho an average player doesn’t play for City 😂
Yeah do they do. Phillips for example.
@@migez1he played week in week out 😂
@@halvardgjerdbakken5637 bang average player
Ake and Doku are bang average
@@FootballMan-eb6qxdo know what a average player is. Playing for man city is like saying a CEO who works for the 40 best companies in the world is a dummy.
Erling Haaland is not even an elite finisher, in this team any half decent striker can score a bunch of goals 😂
Haaland is boring to watch
For me he is a foul player ! Watch pushing !!
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, Man City are the best team in the world. Any striker can look like a world beater with de bruyne gundogan mahrez etc spoonfeeding chances non stop. Even Patrick bamford would look like pele in that city team, haaland misses so many chances but he gets away with it because city create chance non stop, Kane would’ve easily scored more goals in that city team. Would haaland score 30 league goals with oliver skipp in midfield. Roy Keane was right the whole time
Best team in the world less popular spurs in Britain with a substantially smaller UK fanbase than west ham!
City literally hasn’t been able to create many chances for a month now…
Mahrez and gundo are gone dude, just so you know.
Keep thinking like that, Haaland has been fed so many chances because he created them due to his runs and height, City players only affect the quality of the passes, not the chances. Kane cannot do the same thing, and Haaland cannot do what Kane can do, stop assuming. As if Kane didn't have Son, Kulisevski, and so many more. Funny how this same argument about City creating chances is mostly the only argument about why he scores so many goals, yet no one has done it at City before him. Kane missed the second most big chances last season, behind Haaland, so what you're saying makes no sense.
The guy was the top scorer in the ucl with dortmund 😂
Give me prime Drogba any day.
Pundits saying stupid stuff to get reactions clicks and create controversy.
I wouldn’t take seriously what they say.
This time they are actually speaking sense. He can bully defenders and score when the opportunity presents itself. But that's about it. And It's not about age. Players have these abilities or develop them early on their career. He is 23 not 18.