‘SMALL CLUB MENTALITY!’ Was Postecoglou right to be angry at Spurs fans wanting to lose? | ESPN FC
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- ESPN FC’s Julien Laurens joins Gab Marcotti on the Gab & Juls Show to react to Manchester City’s 2-0 win over Tottenham in the Premier League.
0:00 Ange Postecoglou’s reaction
8:04 Romero’s clash with Ederson
11:44 Stefan Ortega’s saves
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Ange is correct.
"I hate your club more than I love my club".....
cry😂😂😂
"I bottle against villa now i need my rival to hand me the title"😂
"I would rather lose the Europa League Final and your club lose the Champions League Final than us both win"
@yo_boi_biram8095 that's not the point.
@@jaydash6013no just laughing at you losers. You won’t make top 4 for the next 10 years. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
True rival fans would prob act similarly BUT not🎉 in the stadium chanting and cheering for the opposing team when they score or even go as far as wearing the opposing team jersey.
That didn’t happen though, no idea where you got your information from. 99% of the home crowd were still generally behind Tottenham albeit at a lesser intensity than normal (understandable considering the circumstances)
@@monsieurcherryThere are matchday vlogs that show anti arsenal and pro citt chants constantly throughout the entire game. From the 3rd minute!! Was very ordinary
@@paulk756 there were chants about hating Arsenal after the goals. That’s about it. Nobody was actively cheering on city.
@@monsieurcherry After the goal spurs fans were chanting "are you watching arsenal" and doing the poznan 😂
@@paulk756cry 😂😂😂
Different coach same club.
The least you can do as a journalist do hosting a podcast Jules is take the 2 minutes to read and get the Ange quotes right instead of just a summery that fits what you think.
So tired of lazy media. It’s a continued erosion of quality and accountability.
Ironic part is Spurs fans are now getting bantered by EVERYONE because of this mentality, instead of just Arsenal fans had they actually helped them win. Embarrassing fanbase.
no one is gonna remember them getting battered dby the public. Everyone is gonna remember they stop Arsenal from winning a trophy.
@@ifldiscovery8500 They lost to Arsenal, they're achievement is LOSING to Arsenal' title challengers, right, got it! Smh...
We stopped Arsenal winning the league. Deal with it u nerd
@@ifldiscovery8500 Which is stupid logic anyway, it’s only one game out of a 38 game season. You could handpick literally any of the other games as being just as crucial to their victory
@@Kuddochan again history won't remember what people said but the result that stopped Arsenal winning the EPL.
Big Ange was right!!
Tiny brain
OF COURSE Pasta is annoyed!! He saw the club and the fanbase scuttle Top 4 and Champions League money and stature, and celebrate it, instead focusing on sticking it to their rivals. As long as i have been a fan of footie I've NEVER seen anything so desperate, so gutter, and so LOW CLASS as this. Imagine Simone and Athletico celebrating losing to Barcá in order to keep Madrid from the title.
Even the gaffer thinks so but can't say what he REALLY thinks.
only nonces talk like this
@phillandrephiles2309 you could not have said it any better. Look at all the players that left spurs. Kyle walker of City, LuKa Modrich , Gareth Bale all drowning in titles, I am an Arsenal fan but now feel so bad for Harry Kane cos he stayed there too long now he is even been bantered for affecting Bayerns trophyless season and he is such a great striker. You can’t drag people who don’t care about success to be successful. I also feel sorry for the few fans who want their club to win. Well they have a great stadium and can Host the NFL and maybe Burna boy Wizkid and Beyounce concert lol 😂
@@OJ-ov6sw You know things are bad when we Gunners are finding pity for Harry Kane. I know our hate for Rottenham is ingrained and intrinsic, but I truly wish they get so bad they get relegated one day for this POXY, LOW CLASS, GUTTER approach to football and the rivalry inside of it.
I appreciate your commentary as well, and thank you.
People are going on like City are easy to beat and like Spurs didn’t give their best performance in a game since Villa. And second best performance THIS YEAR!!!
Spurs had plenty of opportunities to play well and not play naive in many of the big games and didn’t and Lost (look at yourself here Ange).
People are just drinking up that have a go at Spurs cool aid.
@ dalyonking I get where you are coming from re-city been a very difficult team to beat but come on you and I and the world watched that game. I have never seen city so nervy for almost 70 minutes till that game. The records don’t lie about city’s results at ur stadium. I understand the not wanting ur rivals to win it but not at fans teams own detriment. I remember when spurs denied Arsenal the 4th place few seasons ago at their ground that pain was intense and we had had bad losses up to that stage. To have our manager set up our team to clinch 4th after such a bad run and now say where was all the tactics when we were loosing other games means he should loose one more and miss CL. Beats me men 😂
I support spurs and I didn’t necessarily want us to lose but I didn’t want arsenal to win the title because we helped them. The banter and merch we would see and hear for the next 30 years would be crazy. But we’ve wanted to win every game since forever and we’re bad fans cause we didn’t care for winning the one game that gave our rivals the title? Come off of it!! Now dancing and celebrating the other teams goals is a bit much for me. But don’t act like we are just completely out of order.
Also he’s right about direct rivals
Some people just don’t understand that part of being a spurs fan is enjoying seeing arsenal lose.
People are acting like we didn’t lose 4 games on the bounce and shown that we’re not ready for cl football with current tactics, or that arsenal didn’t drop 2pts to us at the emirates. If arsenal are that good they’re not entitled to our help.
@@Karma2Babylonnah it’s just a loser thing to do to celebrate it is all
@@Karma2Babylon Small club mentality. Which team would sacrifice a potential UCL spot just to stop a rival from winning the EPL? Would you rather play Europa or UCL? Small club mentality
@@fzprof1756 well I wasn’t celebrating but I also wasn’t at the stadium with 4 or 5 pints 🍻 in me trying to cope with how our season ended. And if I’m being perfectly honest we havnt been good enough for champions league as we would’ve stumbled over the line.
@@derrickwanjala3710 nah mate, Ange himself said he doesn’t think we’re ready for CL and he also said a month ago that he didn’t care about top 4. Funny how people forget?
Most serious spurs fans recognise that with the current squad and tactics we’d get mullered in CL and are looking at the longer game with Ange, which is exactly what Ange has been saying about building something. We finished above Chelsea and Manchester in his first season and have already matched Poch’s first season stats.
We are where we are mate, and loving being a Tottenham fan seeing arsenal goons suffering.
Take it or leave it
Aston Villa is a bigger club than Spurs. To go from relegation spot to top four in two seasons is hugely impressive.
hahahahaha......Spurs came 2nd in the league many times, a modern era champions league final, have a huge global fan base, the best stadium in the world, and have never been relegated in the PL. Villa......came 4th once and have a huge Birmingham fan base. Small clubs like Villa would never be invited into a Super League.
@@FredEmberg4444
Champions of Europe You'll Never Sing That
@@chaditaqi2911Eddie Howe was more impressive.
Villa are massive, but are a grossly underachieving club. For what is meant to be the ‘flagship’ club in England’s second city, and the Midlands in general, it should be achieving a lot more. It was an early pacesetter in English football. Yet won six of its seven titles by 1910. And six of its seven FA Cups by 1920. They should have an historical roll of honour, at least on a par with Arsenal, if not close to Man Utd and Liverpool.
I read a similar comment last year when people are like newcastle and Brighton are better teams than Spurs based on one season. The recency bias is so hard for this type of fan.
Funny bit would be if Arsenal ends up beating Everton and City loses/draws with West Ham🤣
All this spurs bullshit for nothing would be the ideal karma in the end
Haha, add to that Villa losing to Palace and Spurs having to live with the fact that they could have been in the Champions league
Haha thats exactly what I'm hoping for so these supporters can sit back and reflect on their behaviour
@@ahmabu2437wanna know more worst? chelsea win the last game and spurs losing..bye2 europa
Prize fool . No doubt a Woolwich fan. Not even a north London team
@@shinichikudoz The Fairytale ending !!!
From being deciders to celebrating a defeat and losing a ucl spot
Son is now a legend not because he won them a trophy but because he purposely missed 😂
Spurs spurs spurs spurs spurs a bunch of jokers 😂😂
I am a fan of 50 years and I am ecstatic that Spurs played brilliantly and permitted City to win to spoil the Goonners chance of winning the league.
Up the Mighty Spurs.
A lot of nonsense in terms of Ederson coming off. As the manager said in the post match interview the medical stuff said he could not continue as he could not see from one oh his eyes. Today it has been confirmed to be ruled out for the next 2 matches with a broken eye socket.
Spurs and their fans do have a small club mentality. As poor as they've been this season, were Man Utd fans desperate for their team to throw the game against Arsenal at OT last week just so that they could deprive City of a title? No.
I agree but chill out with the overgeneralization dude. I'm a Spurs fan and despise the actions of some of our "fans" as much as anybody. Winning is all that matters, and if a rivalry ever, and I mean ever, takes precedent over beating/measuring yourself against a side like Man City...then you were never in it for the love of the game and winning, simple as that
No, they had a chance to qualify for CL. They cheered against that so arsenal would have win the PL
that was the correct decisions.
Gabi is defending garbage here. He should know better.
I don't understand ange called this small club mentality, how bout you ask real madrid and Barcelona or inter milan and milan
Rivality is something different, he doesn't understand because he's a small club manager for years and just coming to a big league
they already said it was eye issue not concussion
I mean it's clear that Daniel Levy isn't always about winning as he sacked Mourinho before a cup final so it's not like Spurs losing doesn't mean much anyway. The Arsenal fans cheering on Spurs like on AFTV are weird. You wouldn't see a Millwall fan do that with West Ham.
Gabby dont ever compare spurs to Arsenal.... we've won in 10yrs ..unlike spurs
the premier league?
@@dreddmann6532 have you even see you team win one ever ? Cos i have
@@maino_Da_Loc You talking about the Astros?
@@maino_Da_Loc It's been 20 years since ASSna won the league!
@@dreddmann6532 its been 2 days since i ran thru your mom..whose counting cuh?
About the Ederson thing. The Doctor said he was not concussed. I think his eye started to swell up a few minutes after the collision, so they took him off because of that.
City just released a statement saying he has a fractured eye socket and will miss the next two games.
@@jamesontanner8769 How is Romero not getting banned?
Small club mentality. End of it. Man Utd supporters were in the same position and we wanted to win it.
An angle everyone seems to be missing is the team would have EARNT our support if they had just beaten or taken points off Arsenal and got some points off Chelsea to leave the cl qualification in our own hands!!!! He would have had an unbelievable atmosphere
So what spurs fans did was mad we villa fans are fickle at times when things not going good but you took it to far think what your players must have felt like we would never want our team to lose
Agreed
My thing on this is I always want my team to win. If they lose, and the screws over Liverpool in someway, then I’m not disappointed as much in the loss.
Arsenal and Man U fans shouldn't have been surprised that Spurs couldn't take a point from City, they had hope but got disappointment. As a Spurs fan I figured the City game would be lost so I acted accordingly (sad). I'm not a Villa fan but they are a better team presently than Spurs (sadder), Spurs are not ready for CL maybe not even for EL (saddest). Ange had to have known what a difficult obstacle Levy is, he still took the job. Ange knows Spurs don't have enough of the right players for his plan A. Ange is smart enough to know most teams have figured us out (our fans know this) and he probably knows he was putting lipstick on our pig when he spoke about the loses to Fulham, Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. I'll end with a note to Ange, enough of the whinging about fragile foundations mate, just win baby (or a point) at the weekend. Next figure out what you need for next season from Levy, and share this as best you can publicly, so if you get it I know. If you don't get what you need from Levy tell me why so I can plan accordingly. COYS
ANGE IS RIGHT. and Gab is full of S*** as usual. you'll never go against your club and get happy when they lose unless you are a loser.
Come on. Spurs had nothing to play for as top 4 was very unlikely. It was just fun and banter.
Actually if spurs beat man city they had a good chance to make champion league. Cause I strongly don’t believe Aston villa can beat crystal palace. Palace is baling right now.
@@walterdavies2984 No, they didn't. They were 5 points behind with 6 to play for. Villa had a better goal difference of 8 before kick off. Spurs needed to win by at least 3 or 4 goals to even have an outside chance on the last day, and no way was that happening with their poor form of late and also playing against probably the best team in the world who also needed the 3 points. Villa realistically only ever needed 1 point from the final game. Spurs chance of making the top 4 was probably 10% at best. They threw away top 4 over the last 4 or 5 games. Getting destroyed by Newcastle and Fulham away ended the top 4 for them. They only beat Forest and Burnley (2 of the worst teams in the league) in their last 7 matches, losing the other 5. Seeing Villa get that point the day before crushed them mentally. In the must win game vs City, they created almost nothing and their one real chance came from a City mistake, and when they were behind anyway. At no point did they ever look like getting the 3 points that they needed.
@@TerribleEnglish Sure they did, they got an easy game on the final day, a win here would’ve forced Villa to get a result as well or Spurs would’ve gotten top 4. Of course it probably wasn’t going to happen but it’s hardly unrealistic either
@@Kuddochan it is unrealistic when Spurs are 5 points behind and one of their games is City. Come on.
Let Ange go manage West ham or Brighton. Would be fine by me. Hes setting himself up for a big fall. Ange has to win a truphy next season and finish in the top 3.
Majority of fans would react exactly the same way.
A few years ago, Arsenal in the Europa League final, Spurs in the CL final. Vast majority of Arsenal fans would have chosen to lose if it meant Spurs would lose the CL final.
Mid 90s, Liverpool fans cheered Blackburn goals at Anfield cos it meant Man Utd wouldn't win the league.
A slim chance at CL qualification means almost nothing to Spurs. It is an easy sacrifice if it means massively reducing Arsenal's chances of winning the Prem.
Imagine West Ham does the nearly impossible and Crystal Palace gives Aston Villa a beating.....oooooh my!
Spurs will forever be shamed for life
Im so hoping for this scenario to pan out so these fans can look back at disrespecting their own players and the manager for bringing their toxic negativity into the stadium.
villa gonna sent academy players vs palace later
Yeah u can only imagine
It’s not just Tottenham though is it? Any football fan with a fierce rivalry would feel conflicted in this unique situation.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with some spurs fans not wanting Arsenal not to win the league but I think it’s more controversial because of how vocal the spurs fans were about it.
You lot didn’t start singing until you were in 1-0 down
@@vincestaples-hp5dy if you've still got something to play for, you should want your team to win regardless of the consequences elsewhere. Top 4 was still very much possible especially with them having Sheffield Utd in the final game
This is Spursy through and through
@@vjaska yeah you’re right I forgot about that part. If they had nothing to play for then I can understand
I was so naive. When VAR was introduced I thought it sounded cool. VAR would tell us whether the ball crossed the line. That's how naive I was. Too soon it overreached. Go back to did the ball cross the line or not or abandon it as an experiment that failed.
It's fascinating to me that Ange was in charge of a match of this nature, because he's Australian, and a winning mentality is practically part of their nationality. So the idea of wanting to lose, even if it is to hurt a rival, is practically alien to most aussies - and clearly to Ange anyway.
Gab talking total sense again. I quite enjoyed his dig about PSG not really having any rivals 🤣
Small club last time they were a big club was in Terry Venables era they might never recover.
Just so you know after you guys question the medical staff. They said he’s not concussed but his eye was fractured and might swell. And the nfls “independent” doctors have ran into plenty of issues too seeing how they are still employed by the nfl and the nfls interests lie in star players playing
I completely agree with Juls.
However, you're making a logical argument for an emotional topic.
Rivalries are not logical, and fans are mainly emotional.
No but adults should know how to regulate their emotions and not be clowns and cross the line
Well said. Ange lost the preceding 12 games .....that's when the champions league opportunity was lost by Ange .....not leaving it to the game against City .
Ange Impostercoglu OUT
@@russellmathews3599 - when you realise the fans are also the reason why spurs haven’t won anything of actual more for over 20 yrs
@@Taecoconutnot everyone is sensible.
Surely you know that. I was at the game and for probably one person out of every 100 was vocal about wanting to lose and got called out on it on the way to the game.
@@Taecoconutnot because of this game. Because too many do. Not put pressure on the board to do better on the field where it matters.
These idiots are building hotels instead of investing in the right players to make the team more competitive
Lads you were JUST talking about Emi Martinez. The very example of leaving a comfortable backup situation for first team football. Look at his career since leaving Arsenal. It’s been incredible what he is achieving. You should always pursue playing the game or what is the point.
At the start: 0:10, This is a classic example of the English "sacred soil and shirts" insignia psychology to the ultimate. London rival fans, which, *still,* in 2024, the *foreign contingency:* players, fans, terrace tormentors, and television viewers, *may not grasp* and understand the deep-down situation with their souls.
Rivalry can run so deep that Tottenham would prefer to lose against a high-flying team that could take away the title from their rivals.
Addendum: * *some* Tottenham fans...
Tottenham is a small club, we shouldn't be making such a big deal out of this.
Battered city and they lost 2 nil? That's nonsense
To be fair to him, he did say "if Tottenham had battered City", not that they did batter them.
Lauren . You just don't get it . Up the spurs . Spurs opportunity to land champions League football.....was lost when Ange lost the preceding 12 matches through gross Stupidity in tactics , team selection and substitutions. Hanging the Keeper out to dry .... again and again and again. Up the Spurs .
Sorry I meant Jules
For those who complain about the way some Spurs fan acted. You will never understand true rivalry and fandom. Let's be realistic, if the team were going to qualify for top 4 and champions league, they would have been more consistent and done it. Just as if Arsenal were going to win the league they would not have dropped the points they did. Everyone complaining we are a small club, that's true to some extent, compared with Liverpool, Man Utd, or Man City now. Stop crying and, enjoy the banter and fandom that makes football such a great sport to support.
u are small club...not to some extent but as a whole time...spurs never a big club
@@shinichikudoz yeah but you will always be known as the club that let a 10 point advantage in Feb lose you the title, and now it’s happening again! We are still a small club, so what! 😂😂😂
Yes.
a big club mentality comes when you win. You have to win in a year when you are having fun. that is how you build a winning mentality.
A team that hasnt won anything will never enjoy winning if they do it tensed and nervous. No one wants to live through stress even if it means winning. This only applies to first time winners
We lost twice to Chelsea. Brighton, Fulham and West ham beat us. We drew and lost to Arsenal. Everton held us. We only just beat Burnley ffs.
He didn't care when we went out of the league cup. Where was his winning mentality then? What about the FA Cup..not too fussed then either. Losing to Arsenal..not bothered it's just another game..he says. We lost 4 in a row. Leaked goals for fun. Did he play Dragusin..nope. changed midfield everywhere rather than formation. Then he changed that midfield in the 2nd half..all of it. Not only once. Son left, middle then right. Johnson left side. Didn't work put him on the right he scored and assisted. So Ange put him on the left again.
So where's the super coach we hear about. The winner of such highs as the A league, J league and Asia cup playing Iran and Japan years ago.
I wish we had bought 8 players for Conte or mourinho. At least they had a CV worthy of the word.
Next season we will see. Coz it ain't getting easier.
Exactly. This super coach lost you 5 of your last 7 matches in the league, turned your GD around by -9 and threw away your almost nailed on 4th spot, but in your 2nd to last match, when the damage is already done, he complains? He sets up your team in a must win match to try and counter attack, not to go for it? He set them up like that, but complains about the mentality?
Ange is trying to change the narrative from "he's been sussed out, he's out of his depth" to "Spurs don't deserve Ange"
@@handsolo1209when has Ange ever set up to block and counterattack - spurs had higher possession than city. What were you watching.
Well said . Ange Impostercoglu OUT. We will never win silverware with a manager who doesn't blame himself for the 12 games lost before the City game . Prize idiot
It is well known that at the elite level of sport, any sport, the difference between winners and also-rans is Mentality. Ange now knows that at Spurs the problem is Mentality. He has a winning Mentality what he witnessed against City showed that not everyone at Spurs including some fans have that.
Ederson is confirmed as having a fracture.
José Mourinho managed the Spuds and ended up disliking the spuds. Antonio Conte managed the club and ended up disliking the spuds and now Ange manage the Spuds and is realizing how disgusting a club the spuds are and how they and the supporters are void of all ambition.
Stop milking this news piece.
Gab was wrong on 4th chances for Tottenham. If they won, they had Sheffield and Aston Villa had Crystal Palace away who had been winning for fun.
You have to worry about the time you have with Ange . Worry about now not the future
let's say a great player wants a move to the premier league and just witnessed that fan behavior. This small club mentality. Would that player really come to tottenham? and if he comes at all he is after a bag and does not play for the batch... and then you weaken the locker room and the foundation - it's a negative spiral and the effect is: not winning anything over and over again. Tottenham has a great manager - has had great managers... but they could not change that mindset and ange will not be able to correct it, because the club's assesment is all wrong... on paper viewed as a top six club... in reality a mid table organisation with the nicest stadium in england, where american football is played.
EXACTLY THIS!!! I said the same thing I was FURIOUS with my fanbase
son should leave asap...dont wait too long like kane
It matters.
There are definitely shades of Conte, and Mourinho, in Ange's comments. And, his body language is, of late, screaming: 'I am uncomfortable.' To my mind, this is the beginning of the end of Postecoglou's tenure in north-London. I also think his reference to 'fragile foundations' may stem from a very recent interaction with his direct employer.
In reality everyone should be talking about Aston Villa doing the brace over Arsenal this season to deny them the Title not about Spurs losing to city .. that was inevitable anyway especially in the run in for the title. If I was Ange Postecoglou I'd be seriously looking for another club to Coach/Manage< Spurs are not the side where he can promote a winning mentality ??
Success breeds success for Spurs but it also does for Arsenal. Spurs helping Arsenal win the title makes them so much stronger in recruitment. I would never want to help my rival achieve greater success
As a city fan, Why ? it's that most Asernal fans & pundits would like other clubs to beat City for Asernal to win the league ?
not really. there are 38 games in a season. you will always need your opponents to drop points against other teams. City took 1 point from Arsenal this season. does that mean they relied on others to win it?
Lay people telling drs what to do. Classic modern BS. The man has no idea / understanding about concussion hence the years of training / education / experience to actually diagnose it. Stick to garbage analysis.
- City on edge of 4PLs in row
- All talk about Spurs
- City total blackout
- City Vs Establishment,no?😂
*115 fc
@@anakinskywalker4817 Well, if we can call them that for an allegation, can we call Liverpool 39RIPFC and Arsenal BribeFC?
Man 115 Cheaty.
Deserve absolutely nothing but contempt.
Isn't deliberately losing considered match fixing?
Yes it is. Liverpool and Man Utd did this once, but surprise surprise, no punishment at all.
Gab doesn't know the situation from the start of this clip. Crazy for a big journalist. If Spurs had one. IF they they would have been in with a chance to make Champions League, given Villa had to play Palace who are flying. A long shot, but they were still in contention going into the game.Gab seeming not to know this is mad.
Hear is the thing of course they dont want Arsenal to win that is normal. But not at the cost of your own teams success. You can watch arsenal play and laugh when they lose. i would say thats normal. but to wear City shirts and cheer when they score is crazy to me. when you have a chance of top 4. he wants you to understand forget what arsenal do laugh when they lose. but never at the cost of your success. think like a big club. I have never and will never want my team to lose. im not bitter that you lost at all we never did what we was ment to make sure we win it. But you should get banter for acting like you guys did.
For those of you who dont know-Gab is Bayern Munich hater and delusional.
That's not very'peaceful' is it .
Welcome to Bayern Munich Ange 🇩🇪
The fans might pay the money ….what for so they can choose if they win or lose it doesn’t matter what , are you joking you pay your money and don’t want your team to win THAN STAY AT THE PUB don’t come to the game and poison the side and atmosphere.
You dont let your rival win.
It is how it always was in europe. dont football fanboy love royalties tradition And historic?
Probably the worse position I’ve seen you take Gab. Know your stuff… if Spurs beat City and they then beat Shef Utd last day (highly likely) then Villa only needed to lose away at Palace who are on fire. A very plausible scenario.
At the end of the day Tottenham played very well and fought hard to win...but City managed to win the game.
How can you want your team to lose, I am an Aussie and I think you Tottenham fans are an absolute disgrace ...... If I were Ange, I would go !!!!!
Ange has already hurt the team with that High line nonsense thats clearly not working, imagine adding more pain by beating city for Arsenal to win the league. Come on. We forget that the fans are the most important part of the teams without them there’s no spurs. By The way, jules is an Arsenal fan.
Arsenal would do the same if Tottenham have a chance to win the premiere league..
Why is nobody saying this match really cost Arsenal. It legal match fixing...spurs were at 75% and song pushed his shot. Yet again city benefit from a culture they dont fan rivals. Nobody care about them.
I've never seen this happend before gab, i don't know where you've seen it to be calling it "natural", crazy reasoning....
Gab is talking and talking but not saying anything...
You really need a twisted mind to insist that it is more important to satisfy some tribal instincts rather than to support your team on any matchday in any way you can, no matter what! There is a time and a place for whatever else may occupy your mind with regards to an obviously deep-seated "dislike" of a rival team. Cheers.
Are you saying Spurs fans are not the 12th man when their team needs them?
Spursy culture, tell me something else.
If I was a Spurs fan Id want Ange gone for that. He is slating his own club. Acting like he is better than the fans. Of course Spurs fans wouldnt want to hand Arsenal the title by beating City. Just like Arsenal fans wouldnt want to hand the title to Chelsea or Spurs. Thats just the way football fans are. Ange must know this so it looks like he is using it as a way to engineer an excuse to leave the club. Pure bullsh1t from him.
Juls is a arsenal fan… he’s not eligible to make any argument in this aspect
Gab is right in that id villa lost atmosphere would he different - plus you get a lot of that fan pages where ask stupid q like would you rather spurs v relegated or arsenal win league and champions league double - which builds stupid mentality as opposed to would you accept arsenal winning the league this season if you win league and champions league in next few seasons
Come on guys, this is rivalry, there's no gain to Spurs winning city that day, they wouldn't still go to the UCL anyway, so they'd gain more by denying Arsenal than winning the game, to be honest even, this spurs team would never win city anyway, so what's the fuss?
Yes he should be angry. He lost his bonus to get spurs into the champions league. But Spurs is not about ANGE it about the supports.
To the French bloke, which part of the Spurs performance indicated they wanted to lose the game. From what I saw, they were giving it a good go, and on the day were just not good enough to beat Man City.
He's talking about the fans... fans in the stadium literally cheered when they conceded goals. They sung Man City songs and did the Man City poznan.
No one is having a go at the players. Its the fans. They stood out like a sore thumb.
I was at the game. Believe me most Spurs fans were not cheering, and pissed off at the very few fans who did celebrate.
the cameras picked out the minority and here we go …… all fans tarred with the same brush.
Jose conte Poste see the same.thing spurs have no foundation
Lads, it Tottenham. People surprised that Tottenham fans have weak mentality and are driven by envy
The irony is that Arsenal still has to beat Everton…I wouldn’t be pleased if my club was Everton and the pundits assume we will just keel over?
and city has to beat west ham..nothing change so far...both city and arsenal have chance to win the league..the race not over and yet ppl already celebrate like city already win the league...u think west ham fans would be pleased hearing that?
Spot on! Expecting West Ham to rollover is disrespectful and just could be the incentive needed to keep the title race alive!
Then why hire someone to try and win, shame on spurs fans
Better to be a small team forever, than let Arsenal win the Premiership
Why is this even a topic of discussion? Why are we surprised that people/fans behave in such manner.... it 2024 people/fans are clueless and have no backbone
Sad: PSG don't have any direct rival 💀
Marseille
@@PotterP-rl4rq That is not a direct rival. They are 650km away. Even Glasgow to London is nearer.
@@handsolo1209 fair enough brother to be honest no one cares about French football there’s a reason kylian wanted out farmers league
@@PotterP-rl4rq It is crazy that Paris only really has one big team. Every other capital city in Europe has at least 2 big rival clubs.
@@handsolo1209Paris FC is their direct rival.
Gab has no standards... Just waffling.
I see no evidence that he was angry at Spurs fans
United beat New Castle even though it helped Chelsea. Big clubs play to win every game.
There is no comparison of the rivalry and dislike between the two sets of fans of United and Chelsea and that of Arsenal and Tottenham. Not even close.
United tired themself for no reason. City in final
115 reasons man c dont deserve the league
Alleviate the prob.....introduce a final series ...best of 3 games for the top two teams
reminds me of Atletico purposely losing so that Real won’t won the league 😅😂
I love Ange, really do. And I love Spurs. But if I were Ange I would hand in my resignation right now. Club that allows such a disgraceful lack of ambition does not deserve a coach/manager as Ange, who is so desperate to win. I would be crying if he did that but I would also applaud him.
Get riddance 😅 he only came to spurs because of scott munn(australian chief football officer). We wanted nagelsmann, Luis Enrique, arne slot, de zerbi, Alonso and even glasner. He is 6th choice😂 ange needs to adapt or f off
@@MoTHFCbut who of those coaches actually wants to coach Spurs? Mourinho & Conte said the same thing about mentality, so why would any of those coaches want to sign up for that foolishness?
Gab come on......lol spurs acted childish for me
You guys really have no idea of serious football rivalry do you. Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs fans hate each other almost as much they love their teams. The champions of London is another intense competition in itself and historical records count.
lol bro the only think that matters and that will be remembered for the rest of history is arsenal not winning the tittle actualy bottling the tittle so arsenal fans can say what ever broe nobody cares
so what gab wants is that players start trying to give head injuries (romero didn't even get a yellow) to opposition star players. because that would guarantee they would have to be temp subbed. pundits really are funny sometimes.
Romero got a yellow
It looks more like that the issue is with management… perhaps Postecoglou won’t get a big enough kitty to bring in new players?
INSHALLAH city will win the league 💙🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏