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Pioneer DJ DDJ-800 vs DDJ-1000 - Which Is The Best?
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Pioneer DJ recently launched the DDJ-800, a portable, 2-channel sibling to the popular DDJ-1000. This makes analysis paralysis worse for DJs looking to buy new gear...but we've got you covered in this week's Tuesday Tips Live, running through features, pros/cons, and answering "which is the best?" - tune in!
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I have the DDJ-1000. If you are considering buying the 800, I'd strongly recommend saving up the difference and buying the 1000. Quality is worthwhile investment. 1000 is SOLID
FACTS!
Is 1000 can use serato dj pro?
@@juansalvador5946 yes, but you need to buy the ddj 1000 SRT
11:30 for the differences between the 800 and 1000
And 22:20 :)
U angels
My wife just got this for me.... Early Father's day gift it comes in a few days 😎
@@mbf6160 can I move into yours? I only got a San Miguel pint glass and a cake 😂
Shout out to you bro
I have the ddj1000 and I love it!!!!! I say go for the 1000 you won't be mad!!!!
Unless you want to hookup two turntables to a DDJ-1000 and play analog vinyl. You are then really in for a bad time experience, because the DDJ-1000 has ultra low quality preamps built-in.
Agreed
@@adicbn I thought about buying the rx2 but the 1000 jog wheels sold me. I had the mcx8000 but the jogs were too small
I was gutted when I had to sell my 1000 for quick funds and this looked promising as was on the look out for something again. Think it'll be another 1000.
How'd you get it sold? The market is flooded with used ones
I was about to open a new page and check on the specs of the DDJ 1000 and start comparing it with the new DDJ 800 when I saw this video upload. Hehe. Great job!!!
Perfect timing - thanks for watching eddie!
DDJ800 is extremely solid
My favorite controller
Thanks for sharing
I wish you where a teacher of mine. You’re so great in explaining stuff and opening a show
Well we have an online school if you want to check out our training: djtips.co/courses :)
I love my ddj 1000 .. its a beast and so awesome to mix and perform..
Looks good, but seems to be too close in price to the DDJ-1000 to be worth it, unless you are certain you wont use the extra features of the 1000 and want the smaller size of the 800.
Ddj1000 are 1500 bucks now minimum
2 channel, okay. Well the timing also seems to be trying to disrupt the prime 4. Personally i would still go with the ddj1000
Not sure it's to "disrupt" the Prime 4, they're really very different types of unit.
I got my 1000 with a hard flight case and 3 year accidental protection warranty for 1300 total on black friday. May be worth waiting if you don't need it asap. The only issue i had with Rekordbox was the music analysis for hip-hop/pop/r&b. I almost thought about taking it back the difference was so frustrating. But I've tweaked some settings and got rekord buddy (just so that I can analyze in serato). I don't really need to analyze on serato now and starting to like rekordbox. I got the 1000 so I could get familiar with club settings so it's worth it for me, but the serato switchover is not for the faint of heart. Love the jog wheels, the mixer sounds GREAT. I'm still getting used to rekordbox but the jog wheels, effects, mixer are a good enough value for 1200 there's nothing else even comparable.
Did you try setting the BPM range on track analysis to sort that issue out?
@@digitaldjtips Sure did and that helped.
Earlier question about the USB inputs. I think the guy was meaning if there were any inputs for USB sticks on the 1000 which it does not. 👍
After my initial reaction, where I was pleasantly surprised to see this, I am appalled that they didn't give the controller in built effects, sure you could just plug in a laptop, but still, they really missed out doing laptop required effects, I'm glad I got the DDJ 1000. Great video as always, looking forward to the hardware review 🔥👍
The review ought to be coming in the next week or two, DJ Wolve.
Are the phono preamps same as in the DDJ-1000?
Those in DDJ-1000 are REALLY bad for playing analog vinyl.
Official statement from the official Pioneer mod in the pioneer forum about the issue:
"To be perfectly honest, they [the phone preamps] are not intended for vinyl playback. The phono inputs are primarily for DVS timecode input. I know you're thinking "but what's the difference?" and the answer to that is the quality doesn't need to be as high if it's just for DVS input. ... It's not a DJM-quality mixer -- a single 4-channel DJM is more than the cost of the entire DDJ-1000, so obviously there will be places that don't shine as brightly, and in this case, it's the phono inputs.
My recommendation would be to source an external RIAA phono pre-amp and place that between your turntable and the line input."
Pioneer are you kidding us?
This is a controller for 1000 Euro. How are even cheap Xone:23 or Nuo 2.0 for around 250 € absolutely fine with playing analog vinyl?
This is ridicuolious.
P.S. You are suggesting buying two external RIAA preamps for the turntables..yeah..right..
How is a controller like NI Z2 able to have decent phono preamps for analog vinyl? It costs about 450-500 €.
I've had no problems at all. Literally, zero problems with the pre-amp. What sort of cartridges are you running?
@@jayritter604 it's been admitted by pioneer that the DDJ-1000 isn't meant to be used for vinyl, only DVS. Yes, audio comes through with vinyl, but that's not the issue. The issue is the quality. Have you compared vs mixers with proper preamps? It's obvious that it sounds bad.
Thanks for reporting that Audiolab2000
I still have my 1210 decks and was expecting to just plug them straight in to the DDJ-800 (or DDJ-1000). Very poor of Pioneer to provide phono inputs that are not actually suitable for playing normal vinyl though.
Does DDJ 1000 work on a virtual Dj 8 Infinity Pro?
1) is it compatible with Traktor software
2) are their usb ports to plug in music from?
Neither of work with Traktor natively and no
Glad to be Virtual DJ user, my 1000 works like a charm.
Im facing prblm of low volume output through external speakers also red light pops up in each song for both master and channel
Im using ddj 800 with hp spectre x360
I have downloaded the latest version of rekordbox and Latest audio drivers for it
I also have ddj 1000 srt n it sounds great
I want to know that is it my controller prblm or laptop of its thr matter of software
Plzz help me sir
Im not using the youtube rips i play wav files from beatport
And when i play 128 kbps mp3 on ddj 1000 srt it sound best then my wav files on rekordbox with ddj 800
Plz let me know👍🏻🙏
Only reservation about getting a 1000 is when using it standalone, theres no screen to see the wave forms. anyone know a way round this other than using a computer with it.
Great video as always Phil! As much as I wish I was a club DJ, I find myself doing way more weddings; about 15 a year. I was trying to decide between the 1000 or the 800. Your description of the mic feedback control feature, sold me on the 800. As a mobile DJ, that’s a feature I could really use. Thanks again!
No problem! Do let us now how you get on with it Mario.
Sorry I dont know what post that's o can you time stamp or cue me in on the differences
Love y’all’s thank you so much for making all of your content have saved me so much 😁😁😁
Thanks Devon!
In german online shops the DDJ-800 costs 899 €, the DDJ-1000 costs 1.079 €.
Do your maths, guys.
It's a fuck you price, as usual from Pioneer
Exactly dude they dropped the ball this controller at the most should of been 799 usd
@@mikelo303,Actually retail price of DDJ-800 is USD$899 cheaper than DDJ-1000 which cost USD$ 1199 just go to www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/news/2019/meet-the-ddj-800-controller/
Who knows, it may end up at that when it hits retail after a while.
We are quoting back at you the prices Pioneer DJ gave to us. It's not maths, it's cut and paste!
its pretty decent pricewise if you really need to have full size jogs. i'm still happy with the xdj-rx mk1. if you prepare on it, you will have no issues handling cdj nxs2 and djm nxs2.
Thanks very much. I am sold on the DDJ-800 :-)
Glad we could help!
I always get the guilt trip for not tuning in live 😝. Love you guys! (but I'm always driving when you go live)
I think for the money, I'd rather just get a DDJ1000. Not a huge jump in price. However, it is nice the controls get a bit more breathing room on the 800
😆Haha, we appreciate you tuning into the stream whenever you're able - your excuse is sound. Fair enough, the 1000 is an excellent investment
COULD NOT AGREE MORE!
Great review. It seems like for bigger clubs/events you might want to stick to the DDJ 1000, because of the jog wheels, 4 channels instead of 2, can be played without the laptop and you can use the effects with a mic unlike the DDJ 800.
Well honestly for me I wanted to upgrade from 400 to 1000 anyways so I was looking out for this review.
And if the pricing differences is not that much between the two I would differently go for DDJ 1000.
But is the DDJ 800 better than the DDJ 400? Now that's a different story.
800 has more advantage over the 400 that's for sure but the point of using the effects without a mic kinda ruins the experience so that's a disadvantage for me.
"Can be played without the laptop" - this isn't true insofar as you can't play digital files without the laptop (like you can with the XDJ-RX/RR) - just to be clear! :)
Thanks for a great stream as always! Wondering, what is the little device you are using to switch cameras and picture in picture?
We use Ecamm Live software (it's dead simple to use) with just a Bluetooth keypad keyboard, with shortcut keys assigned via a little Mac utility.
You and Joey are the greatest
We try! :)
Just Ordered my Ddj 800 👌🏾✌🏾
Nice! Have fun
Can you help me decide between the DDJ-800 and the FLX4? I feel like the 800 gives room to grow and the digital display can be quite helpful. Is there any advantage of the FLX4 over the 800 other than being able to use two different softwares?
No, the 800 is a pro controller, the FLX4 is a beginner-level controller.
@@digitaldjtips ty
Waited for this Controller. But...no MAGVEL fader, no standalone effects and the little too high pricetag in comparisn to the 1000 killed it for me. Little disappointed to be true :(
Yeah have to agree I felt the same. I got rid of my 1000 recently and this looked perfect but no hardware effects on external equipment, jogs aren't mechanical and that price....i thought after the great price of the 1000 pioneer may have started to drop the prices for future gear...seems they haven't.
Hi Phil...can you maybe tell me which controller between these...:.DDJ-RR ...DDJ-800....DDJ-1000 and the....XDJ-RX2 ..have the best responsive..I mean...the fastest performance pads please?thanx in advance...I need to know because i have to choose between them..
great video thank you easy choice DDJ 1000
Worth noting that the phono preamps on the DDJ1000 and presumably the 800 are not actually fit for analogue turntables and only suitable for DVS. They sound terrible and that’s been confirmed by Pioneer but not mentioned in ANY official documentation. It’s fine as you can use an external preamp but it’s a bit cheeky to claim it can be used as a standalone mixer when it’s not really fit for purpose as a standalone.
It's really a shame because besides this ridiculous preamp fail, the DDJ-1000 is a great controller. What on earth were they thinking?
@@Audiolab2000 Presumably the've assumed that their audience for this controller won't really use this function all that much so not worth investing in a decent preamp. Seems like it should be a standard though. It is odd.
We'll definitely be testing that now you've raised it, PWM Music. Where have you seen it confirmed by Pioneer?
@@digitaldjtips There was an official comment on the Pioneer forum
forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360031675451-Pioneer-DDJ-1000-phono-audio-quality-really-poor-
But all you need to do is test it with an external preamp and the difference is night and day. It's a real shame that this is not explicit from Pioneer especially as all their documentation states you can use the controller with analogue turntables (technically true but it sounds dreadful!)
@@digitaldjtips In the official pioneer forum. Goolge for "Pioneer DDJ-1000 phono audio quality really poor "
Am in the process of saving for the 1000. Might get this though. Not sure if I really need 4 channels. Btw I'm subscribed but I can never see this notification bell I hear so many talking about. Does it show up on iPhones? I have an old iPhone 4s. Love the channel & vids btw, James.
Don't. I have the 1000 and watched this to consider reducing my footprint (running DDJ-1001 and 2 RP-7000s). When he got to the points of the crossfader being different, the jog wheels being smaller and capacitive, that was it. Wouldn't get the 800 based on those two things alone. Not saying it's a bad unit, but shouldn't be priced so close to the 1000, which is far superior.
It's definitely worth knowing this stuff before deciding, hence us making the video Jay! :)
About switching DJ's and only having one USB slot in Rekordbox DJ. You can easily just connect a Rekordboxed usb device to the existing computer and access all the music on that device on the same terms as the ones in the actual laptop. All the DJ's need to do is to agree to work like that. A unique feature within Rekordbox.
Thanks for sharing :)
For mobile DJ gigs, DDJ800 vs DDJ1000, which is more suitable ?
Both are good. Do you want two or four channels?
I'm DJ Rone I just purchased the DDJ 800 can I use Serato Pro in it
If I got the 1000, would I be able to use the 3rd channel for the output from my Macs soundcard (using Ableton) and then use the 4th channel with a cdj1000mk3 and keep everything in sync?
Can you control all 4 decks from the controller or do you need to use external hardware is there a layer button on the 1000
Yes you can control all 4 decks on the DDJ-1000 without external hardware
Is ddj 800 and ddj 1000 can play both software (Serato dj Pro and Recordbox)?
OMG.... Having done loads of research over the past 4 months I had just about settled on purchasing the DDJ SR2 (As a 2 Channel alternative to the SX3) and now this comes along. It's probably a bit too early for any useful comparisons but would be nice to know your thoughts on the pros and cons of each (DDJ-SR2 vs DDJ-800)???
Happens to the best of us 😄Biggest decision you'll have to make is Serato or Rekordbox? If you like Serato go for the SR2, and the 800 for Rekordbox DJ
@@digitaldjtips And what about with VDJ (Which I also use a lot for all the Video elements, a part of the job that's getting busier each year)?
No word on Virtual Dj compatibility but I'd assume that will come pretty quickly.
I have a question on ddj 800 how much is the size of the unit
If you do a google search for the dimensions it's listed :)
Excellent controller's, pity that forgot to put the cue split button.
I am having a hard time deciding on either the Pioneer DDJ-800 or the Pioneer DDJ-SR2? DDJ-800 support Recordbox but not Serato, and the DDJ-SR2 support Serato but have limited features. Any thoughts?
DDJ-800, SR2 is not made any more.
I like the track info in the centre screen of the jog wheels, I wish my DDJ RX had that it's a good feature.
Yeah we find it pretty useful!
Hi Phil it's Phil nice to meet you.
Am looking forward to August to buy the 800. A nice upgrade from the 400
But can I use the 800 with an I pad please
Not that we know of.
Does anyone know if you can use an RMX with the 800?🤔
Price is a bit strange. Still think Pioneer think people will stump for a bit more and go for 1000.
Also, the jogs look smaller and someone somewhere else said the effects are disabled when you connect external equipment. Where as the 1000 you can use the effects as they are hardware based.
Wonder if they'll drop the price - we'll have to see :)
I upgraded from a traktor s4/f1 setup to the ddj-1000. WOW. DDj-1000 makes me want to mix everyday and I find rekordbox easy to work with. Effects sound more musical and easier to use....more like how I want them to be setup. PLus I wanted to get back into manual mixing and the pitch control on the pioneer is really good. I had to get into the pioneer universe anyway since its the standard. Money well spent. My NI gear sold for a good price too, which goes to show how highly regarded their stuff is as well. We live in spoiled times with DJ gear.
We do indeed!
Actually the retailer price of DDJ-800 will be between USD $ 899 to 999 possible will be release between mid April or early May 2019.
Sir, the ddj sr and ddj sr2 which one better among this 🌹
get the sr2 it has its own power brick... because it has xlr out puts and has a better sound card....
If you're hesitating amongst the two, get the SR2. Better output sound, XLR, usb powered and ac power, RGB pads...
Sr2
Thanks for another great vid...This is a desperate attempt by pioneer to distract the ovation prime 4 is getting. Thank God some manufacturers are listening to give DJs what they ask for at decent price.
You're welcome Midnytcowboy.
Do u recommend it for mobile and wedding and small parties
Yes
What is the price of the ddj 800
900 US dollars
Hi guys, what a nice channel you have. What type of jog wheels do the 800 have?, they are capacitive, right? may you have problems with earthing?
Yes they're capacitive :)
Any news on Numark Ns74 soon? I have Ns73 and I love it!
No, no news on that,
BTW Virtual DJ does have mapping for the 1000
Did someone say it didn't, Mike?
hey phil was just watching the video after the fact(cause I work) but does the ddi's w/rr work with serato dj? i'm not a fan of rekordbox
Nope
No, these are both Rekordbox-only.
They really dropped the ball with the pricing of this controller its no way im'a pick this up over the 1000 being it's only a few hundred that separates the two controllers
Maybe when it hits store the prices will be a bit wider.
Hello and thank you for the great channel to which I've just susbribed yesterday! I've one question on something you didn't mention in your video. Is the LED screen on the 800 the same size of the one on the 1000? Thank you a lot!!!!
LED screen? the 800 has small screens in the centre of the jogs which are similar, is that what you mean?
@@digitaldjtips sorry I meant LCD screen, I wanted to know if the ones in the job weels of the 800 are smaller than the ones in the jog weels of the 1000... thank you! :)
DDJ 1000 comes with Recordbox DVS while DDJ 800 needs purchase recordbox dvs license seperately? is it correct?
Last time we checked, you had to buy DVS for both.
cuando saldran los nuevos CDJ DE PIONEER ?
CREO QUE DENON HIZO UN GRAN TRABAJO CON SC5000 Y PIONEER SE HA QUEDADO ATRAS
I've been using the Traktor Kontrol S4 for the last 8 or so years and have loved it but think its time for a change. As I play a lot of house and techno, I often use the Delay T3 effect, you could say made famous by Richie Hawtin. Does anyone know if something is similar on DDJ800 or 1000 and in Rekordbox? On the effects channels on the Kontrol S4, you have 3 seperate knobs which can manipulate one effect. So you can increase the delay, then increase the rate also. is this possible on these controllers? Thanks
I think it's pretty hard to replicate the Delay T3 away from Traktor, but hopefully someone will correct me...
Have you a mapping for SERATO DJ please ? (DDJ 800)
If the 800 forces the price down on the 1000, I'll go the 1000🤔
The price of ddj-800 will be between USD $899 to 999
Don't count on it. 1000 is the way to go anyway. Save a little longer, well worth the wait.
When is Pioneer going to make the ddj 800 for serato?
Guess: Never.
I don't understand when you say this is a standalone controller. Do you still need to plug in a laptop? If it's stand alone where is the USB hub yo put the USB music?
It's definitely not a standalone controller - yes, you do need to use your laptop.
hey, Phil i loves how to Summs up The facts between Both controllers... the DDJ1000 is king For the dj That wants to Take full Control of All options he or she has in DJJING. Thank U Phil 💪🏾🚀😃
You're more than welcome, glad you found it useful.
Hello am bit late but how can I get mapping for ddj800 I want to use it with serato
You can't use this with Serato unfortunately.
Can this 2 system can work with a apple tablet to if they connected in to the Audio
No
Hi There, thank you for the great review ;) Off the topic a bit .Would the Behringer TD-3 be compatible for live dj sets with a dj controller + record (I use Rekordbox) I would love to add those funky sounds to my mixes ? Thanks !
You could plug it into a spare mixer channel or Aux input, yes.
@@digitaldjtips it would be interesting to do a video out there ;)
I just purchased a 1000 yesterday. Should arrive Friday. Very excited! I wish I could tune in to you live Phil, but alas, duty calls. Get on that DDJ-1000 course Phil!
We'll see you again soon I hope Tha Rukkus! Have fun with your new controller...
Is this is same as ddj 400 ,sir
Some similar aspects, but it's more fully featured :)
Digital DJ Tips fully priced featured :p
I feel comparing ddj 1000 with denon mcx 8000 will be great beacuse both comes around same price label but big diffrence in features, comparing 4 channel with 2 channel dosent sound right..
Many people are now trying to decide which of these to go for as they're so close in price.
Currently using the entry model pioneer DDJ-RB.
I play house / techno and still not sure what controller upgrade will be best for value.
Mainly i play at house / garden party's for max 30 people.
What do you advice? Thanks Robin
What's your budget?
@@digitaldjtips I was aiming around €1000.
But if €200 extra makes the difference im willing to invest that (i know that de DDJ-1000 right now goes for €1200).
Thanks for responding so quick!
Yes go for the DDJ-1000, it's a great controller (and will be for years to come) and is enough of an upgrade that it'll actually feel like one (rather than going for something midrange)
@@digitaldjtips Thanks for your honest review Phil!
Just ordered the CDJ1000, can't wait to get started with this new 'dj' chapter.
Hopefully Pioneer will watch with us and give you also some of the turnover;) I'm subcribed to your channel!
Awesome, enjoy!
Does Ddj 800 have metal surface or plastic surface?
Very good video.. thankyou phil
Glad it helped!
I will wait until you have the DDJ 800 and you can thoroughly go through. I already checked out the specs and saw the vid by Pioneer.
We should be getting a review unit in the next week or so.
The DDJ 800 is my pick
Thanks!
Glad I upgraded from the ddj 400 to the ddj 800, I got mine for £608 during the Black Friday sales, had to snap it up at that price, this controller will last me for a good few years.
If I ever decided to dj at the clubs in the future this controller along with my previous ddj 400 will be a great building block for shot on nexus gear.
I'm buying one !!!
My take away, even though it's early days: Good move by PioneerDJ, like the more compact 2-Channel option (I'm not a big fan of 4-Channel Mixers), disappointed on the size and tech of the Jog wheels, would have hoped they would carry on the tech going forward, but it's not a deal breaker. So far so good, will wait for a more in-depth review but so far I like it! On a side note though, I think if Pioneer want more people to switch to Rekordbox (Which they are inadvertently doing by releasing Rekordbox-only hardware), they should really consider making the transition a bit easier for guys moving over from Serato. Forcing guys to either buy additional software or manually reorganize their libraries is a fail in my opinion.
Otherwise good review, and good all around device from Pioneer
I asm sure there's nothing inadvertent about Pioneer DJ's tactics to get more people to use Rekordbox!
Seeing Pioneer decided to produce a DDJ-1000SRT for Serato why do they not produce a DDJ-800 for Serato, I have nothing against the Rekordbox software but having used Serato for some time and being comfortable with it, a Serato DDJ-800 would be a sharp move for Pioneer as it would increase the sales of the 800 dramatically for those Serato users that, like me do not need the 4 channels on the 1000SRT, I would by a DDJ-800SRT tomorrow.
Very valid question
Bottom line, $800 vs $1000 🤔 Nice video!
Can I used the ddj 800 with serato dj
No
Thanks for this!! Was already comparing the two!
No worries Dru TheDJ!
@@digitaldjtips Can't wait to see the review and actual demo of the controller
how much will it cost me to buy the RME course, if I have to buy it from India?
All of our courses are in USD and this one is US$197 :)
@@digitaldjtips thanks for getting back to my comment
Great stuff, im guessing DDJ-800 is just about the same size as SX3...?
Hard to say without having it in person/official specs, but yeah possibly thereabouts :)
Does pioneer make a DDJ-800 SRT (any rumors?)
No
I hope there will be a DDJ-600. Would be the next logical update from my DJ-RB.
Sebastian 'Skittz' Körner
I also own a RB, but i would rather collect money until i can affort a better 4 Channel Controller then spending another 300-500 bucks at an Controller with similar features than my actual Controller
DJ Janssen I don’t really need four channels at home. It would just be an upgrade for my home setup. At the venue I usually DJ they have a CDJ setup anyways and for on the road a two channel is enough for me.
I went from an rb to a ddj1000. What an upgraded xD
Wow you must have felt that difference! :)
@@digitaldjtips hell yeah!!! It was overwhelming to begin with but then after about an hour of so I got used to it and now I couldn't be more in love with it :D best thing I've bought for sureee
If this controller was $699, this would be a no brainer. But at $899, you might as well save a couple of $100 and buy a DDJ-1000... That's being said, I really like the layout of this controller and the fact that the tempo slider are long.
You could have a point here.
can i use stems with the ddj 1000 ?
Not currently.
Can these controllers be used with mixxx software
In theory although you may have to map them yourself and I doubt the screens would work.
Doe's pioneer have any coming out with sum thing to compete with prime 4
We have no word of more powerful standalone systems form Pioneer DJ, although of course it has the XDJ-RR and XDJ-RX2.
Hi. which one is bigger?
The '1000.
I'm getting ready to buy the Pioneer DDJ 800 want to learn how to use it and does it work for Serato Pro
No it does not work with Serato
skip to 5:45 you will thank me later
1000 is always worth it, trust me save up and get the better package, you'll thank urself later. I have it at home and I swear it never gets old, literally lil sister to Nexus. NO COMPLAINTS OVER HERE
It's definitely a great controller :)
I can't believe you make a video with the title which is the best if you did not have it in your hands?
We have done hands on reviews with both of these units