Console Wars - Earthworm Jim - SNES vs Sega Genesis

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  • In this episode the rivals take on Earthworm Jim. Very similar games with some differences. So which one is better? Earthworm Jim for Super Nintendo or Earthworm Jim for Sega Genesis. Find out in this episode of Console Wars!
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  • @Alianger
    @Alianger Před 10 lety +168

    And the winner is: Sega CD!

    • @dad7275
      @dad7275 Před 4 lety +7

      I was wondering about the 2 Sega versions. Sega cd version is better than the Genesis version?

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 4 lety +9

      @@dad7275 Not necessarily.
      I've played both Sega versions in emulation.
      The Sega CD version for whatever reasons seem to play slower.
      It HAS better music and an additional level the cart version doesn't have but it's slower. It doesn't have slowdown issues like the SNES port obviously does but it does seem to play 5-10% slower than the cartridge versions.
      I dunno about you but I like faster-paced games.
      It's not an FPS issue. It just seems like they slowed the game down a bit for better-quality music. They music is remixed for the Sega CD edition and is fuller for lack of a better word. It was played straight off the disc (red audio, which means the game CD can played like a soundtrack in any CD player) but the expense was a slightly slower game.
      That remixed music audio was used for the HD edition of Earthworm Jim which was released for PS3 and XBox 360 nearly 10 years ago. The HD versions of EJ 1 were easier to get through than the 16-bit editions. The HD remix felt dumbed down and a much less satisfying gaming experience...

    • @dad7275
      @dad7275 Před 4 lety +7

      @@AvengerII slower could be good for an older gamer like myself...lol. I have a Sega cdx/32x combo and thought of getting Genesis/cd version(s) of this. I do really like cd quality sound of the cd, but there is something to be said of the chip tunes sounds of the Genesis. I'm guessing I'd like the cd version better. Red line audio is nice in cd players. Many of a time I've used them ol games for music listening.

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 4 lety +4

      @@dad7275 The audio quality is definitely better on the Sega CD and HD remixes of Earthworm Jim 1. I do think the HD versions of Jim were easier to play through regardless of the difficulty. It was easy for me to beat the HD version (PS3, played with a joystick) on DIFFICULT setting and I wouldn't even try past NORMAL difficulty setting on the 16-bit original ports!
      As far as owning hardware goes, I don't own a Sega Genesis and never had the CD add-on. I had a 32X for less than a year.
      Whether you choose to own is up to you but most of the game ROMs can be found online and emulators work really well.
      If the game has a fault in it, the emulator replicates that very well! (Yes, I am running EJ CD SE in emulation. It has its good points but I do think the cartridge version runs a bit smoother.)
      The SEGA systems I still own are the Sega Saturn (which was my favorite; still have virtually all the games I every bought for it) and the Dreamcast (of which I own every game I ever got). I'm keeping both systems regardless of whether the motor drives fail or not. As long as they still power up, they can be used. People are working on USB adapters for those systems. You'd have to gut out the CD-drives but the rest of the system can be recycled and you can still use ALL your hardware with it. The problem is the game discs. To be legal, you have to own those BUT you'd have to rip and create ISO's from those to play off a USB stick on the modded Saturn and Dreamcast. The USB adaptors are still being worked on but I'm sure they will be released someday... In the meantime, they're still perfecting emulation for both Dreamcast and Saturn -- those are far from perfect but then again NONE of the 32-bit systems have been emulated perfectly yet on PC.

    • @Wolfdragon92584
      @Wolfdragon92584 Před 4 lety +3

      My buddy had the PC version back in the day, and that version ROCKED. Incidentally, it's super-rare now. I wonder if he still has it...

  • @ConsoleWars
    @ConsoleWars  Před 10 lety +89

    We both played the SNES version growing up too. It was quite the surprise that the Sega was better.

    • @teddybeer6206
      @teddybeer6206 Před rokem +5

      Well it's no surprise considering that EWJ is at the core, a Genesis game. The SNES version is a port.

    • @brianmarshall3921
      @brianmarshall3921 Před rokem +5

      Makes sense, since the Genesis was better than snes in general.

    • @xanderonamy
      @xanderonamy Před 6 měsíci

      @@brianmarshall3921 how tho??

    • @swampdonkey4919
      @swampdonkey4919 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@xanderonamyI usually found the controls to be tighter on genesis games. I liked the genesis music better in some cases, too. It's not a better console, but it has a better library IMO.

    • @xanderonamy
      @xanderonamy Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@swampdonkey4919 ngl, in my opinion both the snes and genesis have fantastic games

  • @ConsoleWars
    @ConsoleWars  Před 10 lety +66

    That's part of why we do this show. To answer questions that have haunted us since our childhood.

    • @pastaroni9634
      @pastaroni9634 Před 4 lety +2

      What happened to This Nintendo guy did he decided he didn't want to do it anymore?

    • @blazingfury057
      @blazingfury057 Před 4 lety +8

      @@pastaroni9634 He had several personal issues and I believe he attempted suicide, so he gave his blessing to being replaced, but he was part of the show for 6 years? I like him, and I like him more for putting himself before his fans. A lot of people wouldn't do that

    • @elgatofelix8917
      @elgatofelix8917 Před 3 lety

      Sweeet

  • @Cyclon32289
    @Cyclon32289 Před 10 lety +103

    As a former owner of a SEGA genesis I feel pride of being represented by that guy.

    • @morphobots
      @morphobots Před 5 lety +14

      A FORMER Genesis owner?! Do you mean to say you no longer HAVE your Sega Genesis? Blasphemy! 🤣😂🤣

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 4 lety

      @@morphobots Pfft! He doesn't need a Genesis console. He can find the ROM online easily and use an emulator to play it on PC or Mac...
      The emulation's very accurate now. You can experience the SLOWDOWN on the SNES port if you prefer the brighter colors and cleaner audio on that version to the obviously superior playthrough (with BETTER controller response) on the Sega Genesis port which has NO SLOWDOWN whatsoever AND better arranged music, too.
      I had the two cartridges and experienced the high and lows of both systems. Hands down, the Genesis port was better if you like a better play experience without wanting to throw your controller out the window! They programmed the Genesis version better. The SNES port could have spent more time having the controller input tweaked.
      The Sega CD version has the cleanest music audio of all the 16-bit ports but it's slower (5-10%; not an FPS issue) than the Sega Genesis cartridge version. Why that is, I have no idea other than it may be a memory issue.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety +3

      @@AvengerII He wasn't arguing against the system or threatening your interpretation of the Sega Genesis or SNES. He was simply pointing out there is no reason to get rid of the console. Joke.

    • @brianmarshall3921
      @brianmarshall3921 Před rokem +2

      @@morphobots sold mine to buy a Playstation lol

    • @Paul-uo1vw
      @Paul-uo1vw Před rokem +2

      @@brianmarshall3921 Playstation was my next system too lol.

  • @iPlaySEGA
    @iPlaySEGA Před 7 lety +98

    I agree!
    The Genesis version wins this one!

    • @WR3ND
      @WR3ND Před 6 lety +1

      Yeah, but I think the SNES has slightly better graphics for what is shown. The FOV on the Genesis looks a little wider though, so it might still win the category for that.

    • @darkerfalcon3747
      @darkerfalcon3747 Před 2 měsíci

      Sega CD: Am i joke to you?

    • @alelauguz
      @alelauguz Před měsícem

      ​@@darkerfalcon3747Windows 95: Nope!

  • @zanegandini5350
    @zanegandini5350 Před 10 lety +47

    You guys brought up valid points. The SNES version is decent, but not as good as the Genesis version. It's not the fault of the SNES either, I just don't think Interplay/Shiny knew the console as well, and as a result, they stripped it down a bit more than the Genesis version. It's quite clear they did their homework when they released EWJ 2, as that game really is just as good, if not better, on the SNES.

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 4 lety +5

      As some who owned both systems, they each had their faults. Yes, the Genesis colors tend to be dark and audio sounds like a bad AM radio station BUT the control input response is BETTER (in addition to a more comfortable control pad generally speaking than the SNES pad) and it almost never slows down. Slowdown was VERY common on the SNES and Shiny wasn't he only developer that faced that issue. LucasArts had problems with slowdown and so did many Japanese developers including Zamuse, Rumic Soft, and Capcom. These are not chump/ beginner companies.
      The CPU on the SNES was subpar, half the throughput speed of the Genesis CPU. There was a reason they were forced to developed add-on chips for the FX games (Stunt Racer, Starfox) and a few Capcom games. The SNES CPU could not keep up with the poly output the FX games required. LucasArts was barely able to run the Super Empire Strikes Back game on the SNES without resorting to the FX chip and all three Super Star Wars games had slowdown issues still.
      There were issues with the Genesis they were never able to overcome with the Sega CD and 32X because they were still piggybacking off the Sega Genesis (for power and additional processing throughput). The 32X sound was NEVER as good as the SNES and the Sega CD still had to work with the memory of the Genesis. Memory itself has speed limitations (in addition to sheer space; neither Genesis or SNES had great amounts of memory) and Sega CD did run into those. I think memory speed and capacity is why Earthworm Jim on Sega CD appears to run slower than the cartridge versions. It has a consist framerate but it definitely feels a bit slower (5-10%) than the carts. I still haven't encountered the slowdown the SNES version definitely showed on a few levels of Earthworm Jim 1. What the Heck? level's slowdown is very obvious on the SNES.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AvengerII I'd say the Controller Dpad is subjective. Some say SNES and others say SEGA. Both I believe are good. As far as slowdown goes, the Genesis also had it, though it wasnt as common. You could also argue that it didn't slow down because it didn't do as good as graphics on the SNES for many games, but again that's debatable. Slow down at the time was fairly acceptable as many games, especially previously had slowdown. Same with PC. Arcade was what separated them and made Arcade ports such a big deal back then.
      As far as the CPU goes, that's also debatable. While the SEGA did have a 32 bit chip in it, it only ran twice the speed during certain games or sections of games. IT was also putting out like half the colors, so yeah, you could see how the consoles varied in certain aspects. On the flip side, if sega was so fast, then why didn't it port doom or wolfensten to the Genesis? Why did consumers have to buy an additional 150+ dollar add on just to play doom on Genesis? I guarantee if you ran Donkey Kong Country, Stunt Race FX, or any huge title like KI, it would be just as choppy if it had the same amount of colors on the Genesis.
      This is why I don't believe that either system is superior. Genesis was meant to rival the NES, which it did very very well. IT was also released a few years before the SNES, which in turn caused it to have to upgrade via CD and 32X addons in order to maintain sales. An additional arguement would be the 6 button controller which was expensive at the time. Buying two of them to play certain games in vs mode was a bit much for me. Not everyone had the cash to pay for that stuff. Especially that you could argue you could spend the same amount of money a year or two later and get a PS1 which outperformed both of them.
      Considering that all the Sega CD did was add some more graphics (or memory via the CD for the game), it didn't really do much in the end. Nor did the 32X which only released a dozen or so games. Of those games, only a few were worth buying. I believe the SEGA did what nintendo couldn't in certain ways. While it was a bit quicker or more responsive generally, it also lacked certain sound fx or music quality (SNES used sampling rather than FM). Some games on SNES were better, while others on Genesis were better. Really hard to argue which was better as they both had their pros and cons.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Před 2 měsíci

      @@AvengerII _Please_ learn to use paragraphs ❗❕❗❕❗❕

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 2 měsíci

      @@Bubba__Sawyer I'd take you more seriously if your damn name wasn't BUBBA!!!

  • @GarArtStudios
    @GarArtStudios Před 9 lety +63

    While technically the sound in the SNES is clearly superior to the Genesis sound chip, I have *always* liked the sound that came from soundtracks in Genesis more. The SNES gave more realistic sounds, but it always lacked the big, punchy, and groovy sound that the Genesis could pull off. Maybe it's my obsession with big fat beats and synthesizers (especially retro ones like the FM synths; I own a Yamaha DX7 FM synth which can create sounds fairly similar to that of the Genesis's Yamaha FM sound chip), but I often find myself head-bobbing to Genesis soundtracks, even at their worse quality. The SNES just never had that "mmph" that Genesis so clearly possessed.
    Genesis's sound wins every time.

    • @GarArtStudios
      @GarArtStudios Před 9 lety +5

      FM synthesizers are beautiful when used correctly. I have an old Yamaha DX7 which is basically just a higher quality version of what the Genesis's sound chip was, since they were both manufactured by Yamaha, and when used correctly, an FM synth creates some really clean, fat, and groovy sounds.
      Somebody transferred Super Metroid music to a Genesis sound chip and I will admit the OST sounds WAY cooler on the Genesis because the FM chip just is more lively and fits a game like Super Metroid way better than the SNES could. The more powerful synthy sound just worked so well with the Super Metroid soundtrack.

    • @GarArtStudios
      @GarArtStudios Před 9 lety +1

      Oh I bet F-Zero sounded fantastic.

    • @Bassotronics
      @Bassotronics Před 9 lety +2

      +Garrett Williamson I can't imagine how weird Streets Of Rage would sound on a Super Nintendo.

    • @Kos4Evr
      @Kos4Evr Před 9 lety +2

      +Garrett Williamson Also keep in mind that the game was designed to get the most out of the Genesis hardware both in regards to video and audio. Ports rarely work when they are maximized for 1 system because of different hardware. Had they rerecorded the original sound track and made it work with the SNES sound chip it might have sounded better than it did, but at the same time some of the sound effects were muted if not missing from the SNES port (like the sounds the princess made at the end of the game and the whipping in What The Heck). Had they optimized it for the SNES, like it was for the Genesis, the SNES version might have been better. It was a lazy port and that is the end of it.

    • @wrestletube1
      @wrestletube1 Před 8 lety +1

      +Garrett Williamson You forget it is a proper arcade music soundchip too. Sure it was one of the least punchy YM's but it still had a unique punch to it and it did have an arcade veriation in it's own right.

  • @gandalfczarny2289
    @gandalfczarny2289 Před 9 lety +21

    For me better is... the win 95 version;p

  • @DootNootem
    @DootNootem Před 10 lety +22

    The "New Junk City" level on SNES is way more colourful than the SEGA version. Why? Well, SNES has sun fading, but on SEGA it looks dark all the time. I still prefer the GEN/MD version because of the sound effects and the 8th level.

    • @Jack_80
      @Jack_80 Před 4 lety

      i thought the snes version looked better on just about every side by side comparison they showed. i like the music in the snes version a little better too, although i do think the sound effects are better on genesis.

  • @rolanddesjarlais8596
    @rolanddesjarlais8596 Před 9 lety +17

    Earthworm Jim 1, better on the Genesis. Earthworm Jim 2, better on the SNES.

    • @bobbill6585
      @bobbill6585 Před 8 lety +2

      True

    • @sonicmario64
      @sonicmario64 Před 8 lety +2

      Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking after watching this episode for sure. ;)

    • @edward18517
      @edward18517 Před 8 lety +8

      +Roland Desjarlais Earthworm Jim 1 better on the Sega CD, Earthworm Jim 2 better on the Saturn.

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel Před 6 lety

      Earthworm Jim Special Edition was also released on PC for Windows 95.
      And Earthworm Jim 2 was released on PSX too.
      Hurr durr, Sony vs Microsoft

    • @maikkeliplays9647
      @maikkeliplays9647 Před 6 lety +1

      I wish they can do a video for earthworm jim 2.

  • @thaneros
    @thaneros Před 8 lety +21

    Wasn't the game originally for the Gen but was ported to SNES?

    • @thatstupidthomasfan
      @thatstupidthomasfan Před 4 lety +1

      yes.

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 4 lety +6

      The SNES levels were a bit longer. The developers of the SNES port gave it more scrolling. And it had fruitier, tootier colors and cleaner audio.
      That said, the Genesis version had better controller response, an additional level the SNES version didn't have, and better arranged music. The Genesis version also didn't slow down like the SNES version did at points in the game. They had the same music on both systems generally but it was scheduled differently and didn't necessarily play at the same points between the two ports. Hands down, the music was scheduled better on the Genesis version -- especially on the last level when you're battling the final boss character, Queen Slug-for-a-Butt.
      The underwater levels on the Genesis also had wavy distortions that the SNES version didn't. Either the hardware on the SNES didn't do wavy distortion or Nintendo requested that the waviness not be implemented on the SNES version of EJ1. The point was sorta moot... The EJ1 port on SNES did not sell as well as the Sega Genesis version. EJ1 on SNES premiered the same month as Donkey Kong Country (SNES) did and guess which game sold better on SNES?!?
      The EJ developers were so furious that DKC sold better (they felt they had the better game!) and put in a Donkey Kong sight gag into the Sega CD version of Earthworm Jim 1!

    • @Wolfdragon92584
      @Wolfdragon92584 Před 4 lety +1

      The Genny version had more voice samples too.
      "Plasma!!!"
      "Sweeeeet doggy!!!"

    • @thatstupidthomasfan
      @thatstupidthomasfan Před 4 lety +2

      @@Wolfdragon92584 Groovy!
      Yipee!
      Ouch!

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety

      I think the same is the case for Sparkster, from Rocket Knight Adventures.

  • @SegaSky
    @SegaSky Před 4 lety +9

    I'm back here after the Earthworm Jim 2 episode.

  • @ImmortalGangsta2004
    @ImmortalGangsta2004 Před 5 lety +17

    10:09
    "The stupid attender's missing a level!"
    -Automaic Captions

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel

    I would’ve used the “WISE FWOM YOU’RE GWAVE” clip from Mega Drive altered beast for the bit with the clones.

  • @crashingblow3753
    @crashingblow3753 Před 2 lety +2

    This is my first console wars video I have ever watched. In fact, this video is what got me into the Earthworm Jim franchise, and since then I have loved the games, the cartoon, and of course, this CZcams channel.
    I have a lot of history with this video. Thank you guys.

  • @alelauguz
    @alelauguz Před 4 měsíci +2

    You missed one!
    In the Genesis, A, C, A, A, C, C, A, B (or ACAACCAB) will make a voice yelling "Cheater!", and you are then taken to the Groovy screen with the voice laughing and the text says "HA! HA! HA! - FOOLED YOU!!! SIGNED....... YOUR PAL, THE GAMESMASTER!" and when the text ends Jim will say "Frigger Fraggy Bogey Rat!" two times, then the SEGA logo screen.
    This does not appear in the SNES version.

  • @randomgamer-st1ie
    @randomgamer-st1ie Před rokem +2

    As a Genesis kid, I never understood the comparison between these two consoles. Comparing 1989 technology to 1991 technology is unfair. Of course the Super Nintendo had better specs. But when the Genesis wins, it's just that much more impressive.

  • @Lalo-dh8xq
    @Lalo-dh8xq Před 6 lety +6

    Finally one of your videos gets 100k views! Congrats, and keep the good work!

  • @xcrack6364
    @xcrack6364 Před 4 lety +6

    These games were awesome. Loved the first 2. After that, they’ve all been trash. I really wish someone would properly resurrect this or at the very least, maybe even remake the first two.

  • @donkeycheese8098
    @donkeycheese8098 Před 6 lety +3

    if only they heard of eartworm jim special edition..

  • @Flavourius
    @Flavourius Před 10 lety +20

    Finally a review with pointing out the clearer and better soundeffects on the genesis. This hype about the so much beloved music form the SNES drove me always nuts, because what's the point of having real instruments in the soundtrack, but gives you an headache from listening it for more than 2 minutes. I'm a huge fan of instrumental artists, but sometimes it sounds better as an electric cover (just like the genesis).

  • @Sakruei
    @Sakruei Před 9 lety +32

    OOOH Yes!!! Sega Genesis It's Better 4 Ever
    You Win
    Now let's play Earthworm Jim in Sega Genesis

  • @pwnerofthemonth
    @pwnerofthemonth Před 9 lety +10

    Another thing you left out for the SNES version is a buttload of voice samples are missing. I hear yippie almost the entire play through unless if Im taking hits. Hands down though the parallax scrolling, the non dithered effects for what the heck and space race levels are quite nice to look at. Even the lense flare is a nice touch. Even the firing animation for jims gun is better. But sega has lots of neat little touches the SNES drops the ball on. The gun sounds like a space laser pistol over a generic smg. Few more voice clips again. You get bullet casing. A bit more room to work with due to the slightly bigger resolution. I do like the megadrive sound chip but I also like SNES's the SNES may have better music quality. But it was not instrumentally better. What I also find odd is the music not even playing in the right parts. Use your head should have played on level 5's chicken fight. And level 5s music should have been used for down the tubes. It feels like it was a bit rushed in development time. If the SNES port had more love. Time and effort it could have easily done that of the genesis version and then some.
    I grew up with the mega drive version btw.

  • @dongledore
    @dongledore Před 10 lety +5

    These are very entertaining, so glad I found your channel :)

  • @randidesu
    @randidesu Před 5 lety +1

    Greg laughs at Dan for 10 hours straight.

  • @ConsoleWars
    @ConsoleWars  Před 10 lety +1

    Did a quick search on youtube and the games look different enough. We have the next episode planned out already, but maybe the one after that.

  • @craigjohnson9343
    @craigjohnson9343 Před 2 lety +1

    Bruh when Greg was laughing and grabs the lotion watching the Mario and princess thing I died 😂

  • @ConsoleWars
    @ConsoleWars  Před 10 lety

    Is there a way to do that? I have no idea how to do that.

  • @grubber1072
    @grubber1072 Před 4 lety +1

    The extra level on genesis was a request by Sega to have an exclusive level for their version of the first EWJ.
    It’s a Sega genesis exclusive, though it may also be in the MS Dos port, but I’m not sure. The exclusive level was also made in a day, which is crazy!

  • @humbertoquackenbush3932
    @humbertoquackenbush3932 Před 6 lety +2

    I honestly think graphics for both games is a tie. Both games have many differences. While the SEGA game has a better use of color, and has that cool wavy effect on down the tubes, the SNES game has clouds at the top of Snot a Problem, The background on the final screen of What the Heck, Parallax Scrolling in Level 5, Down the Tubes, and For Pete’s Sake, and the Sun effect in New Junk City. All of those things are not in the SEGA Genesis version. It has a blank blue sky in Snot a Problem, the screen is only black in What the Heck, Just a non-moving image in Level 5, Down the Tubes, and For Pete’s Sake, and a static moving picture in New Junk City. Both games have their advantages and disadvantages, and the things that they have balance out what the other one has. So in my opinion, graphics is a tie.

  • @DankRedditMemes
    @DankRedditMemes Před 6 lety +1

    Im honestly surprised the Sega CD version wasnt used

  • @septarap3901
    @septarap3901 Před 5 lety +4

    6:15
    My favorite childhood hero is a pornstar now?

  • @Flesketryne
    @Flesketryne Před 6 lety +1

    Your rant on the music was epic :)
    As a Nintendo fanboy it hurts me to say this, but the music is in fact better on Sega.

  • @jordanturner6071
    @jordanturner6071 Před 8 lety

    Love the 3 comparisons I've watched: Shadowrun, Earthworm jim and Ghouls and ghosts. Good work!

  • @sfighter0085
    @sfighter0085 Před 3 lety +1

    I don't know how many times I played this episode, but its become one of my favorite episodes. I grew up with the Sega Genesis version of "Earthworm Jim", and didn't really have any idea that there was a SNES port of the game, nor that that port was incomplete by missing one level.
    Oh and one more thing...LOOK DEEPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

  • @parallaxcraze958
    @parallaxcraze958 Před 8 lety +20

    Genesis has higher resolution (320x224 versus 256x224 for the SNES), higher quality animations, more sound effects, more levels... SNES in comparison has only a few advantages such as the lens flare effect during the first stage which can be seen as compensations for all its losses but still it's far from enough. Genesis wins.

    • @bizarroeddie1
      @bizarroeddie1 Před 7 lety +1

      Scrolling smoother? IT"S MUCH MUCH WORSE!
      The Snes version on the stage Down the tubes, when you NEED to see what's ahead, it much more difficult because of it.
      And this "double resolution stuff" is bullshit. It's lower and stretched. Period.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, the double resolution thing isn't really as big of a deal as you make it. CRT's back in the day blurred the graphics due to their low resolution nature, which made comparing graphics at the time virtually impossible, unless you were lucky enough to own a large CRT (like 30 inches or higher which wasn't as common in the early 90's). This is why SNES having 3 times the amount of colors available goes a long way. You can actually still tell on a CRT. We're talking 70 or less pixels in either direction horizontally of a difference. Not a huge deal.

    • @alycat324
      @alycat324 Před 3 lety

      That’s all they needed to say instead of making this cringy 11 minute video haha

  • @Burn_Angel
    @Burn_Angel Před 6 lety +1

    You forgot to mention, EWJ was ment to be played with a Sega Genesis controller, since that's actually more comfortable for this game. Also, the instruments in the Snes version sound awful because they're too compressed, so the game would fit in a Snes cartridge.
    Earthworm Jim was too much for the Snes.
    So yeah, I agree with the final conclusion. Although I really like how the Andy Asteroids levels look in the Snes version.

  • @Rockysbeats
    @Rockysbeats Před 9 lety +1

    what a great concept for a channel. you guys are doing good and its well presented :) thanks for the entertainment
    keep up the great work

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  Před 9 lety

      CJ Rocky Thanks for checking us out. Glad you enjoy!

  • @GlitchTurnip
    @GlitchTurnip Před 4 lety

    I lost it at the moisturiser and mario pic ahahaha

  • @Watcher3223
    @Watcher3223 Před rokem +1

    Wow, for the graphics, I'm kind of amazed you guys missed the lens glare effect with the sun in the background on the first level of the Super NES version, which was not on the Sega Genesis version.
    That said, while the Super NES version had some graphical effects the Genesis version did not and vice versa, the overall winner is the Genesis version. It is a more complete experience since it seemed the developer neglected to include certain features in the Super NES version compared to the Genesis version.

  • @optcyn
    @optcyn Před 6 lety +2

    "Look deeper..." wise words in any occasion.

  • @williamarkwright1805
    @williamarkwright1805 Před 4 lety +2

    The level "Intestinal Distress" was canned for the Super Nintendo version because it seemed "Graphic".

    • @vontavius01
      @vontavius01 Před 4 lety

      TBF to the SNES version, the Genesis version is also missing a level. The Sega CD version had a level called "Big Bruty" that's not present in the Genesis version or any other version of the game.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety

      I heard it was due to licensing issues. *shrug* on top of not having memory for level with it not being compressed.

    • @alubaldini
      @alubaldini Před 2 lety

      was a playmated vengance to nintendo because dck was released the very same year and day with ewj

    • @the757general2
      @the757general2 Před 8 měsíci

      The Genesis version came first. The Sega CD new levels were tacked on.

  • @BigDaddyZakk420
    @BigDaddyZakk420 Před 9 lety +12

    Sega...100%

  • @keaton718
    @keaton718 Před rokem +1

    Dan's identical clones are cuties.

  • @trevgauntletneu_gaming
    @trevgauntletneu_gaming Před 8 lety +3

    laughing while batin' nice. xD

  • @SadisticFusion
    @SadisticFusion Před 10 lety

    Awesome guys, I was waiting for another episode. Awesome video guys, keep up the good work. Look forward to another episode.

  • @FinalLuigi
    @FinalLuigi Před 7 lety

    Another thing worth noting in the sound department is that Jim only goes "Yippie" when he collects anything in the SNES version, and he only has one hurt sound. And for some reason, the stage 3 theme is the New Junk City theme instead of the usual theme.

    • @YaGirlJuniper
      @YaGirlJuniper Před 7 lety +1

      Yeah, the SNES version re-used the same two sound effects for everything. The first time I went to a friend's house and played his Genesis version of EWJ, when I had the SNES version, it was an eye-opening experience.

  • @Angrydevbg
    @Angrydevbg Před 10 lety

    Once again you managed to delivet guys, great episode! Thanks a bunch - and a very deserved LIKE cheers!

  • @Wolfdragon92584
    @Wolfdragon92584 Před 3 lety +1

    Anyone else notice that big HEYYY! comes from The Terminator? Lol

    • @zitherq5761
      @zitherq5761 Před 3 lety +1

      I watched terminator and noticed it too haha. I wonder why it's in Earthworm Jim. Not sure but some may EWJ developers worked on The Terminator for Sega Genesis. Not sure if there's any relation

  • @somedude5644
    @somedude5644 Před 9 lety +7

    Somehow these guys remind me of Nostalgia Critc.

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  Před 9 lety +9

      Spike the Ferret He's def an influence.

    • @somedude5644
      @somedude5644 Před 9 lety +3

      Console Wars
      I knew it!
      You guys are so awesome to watch.
      :)

    • @sonicmario64
      @sonicmario64 Před 5 lety

      No, I think these guys are several times better than the Nostalgia Critic, since they don't overact while only focusing on the negative aspects of video games, and they definitely do not tell us what we should or shouldn't be allowed to enjoy as well. :P

  • @blakerelli
    @blakerelli Před 4 lety +1

    5:57 This man inhales Twinkies like oxygen.

  • @666jamie666
    @666jamie666 Před rokem

    Great video as always but can you just confirm that you both were pretty drunk during this one right? 😂😂

  • @Linkigi1972
    @Linkigi1972 Před 4 lety

    I forgot to point out that the Sega Genesis level Intestinal Distress (which is not included on Super Nintendo) has a vignette.

  • @shalpp
    @shalpp Před 10 lety +13

    The genesis version was the first version and the definitive version. The PC version, along with the special editions were all based on the Genesis version, even the SNES version of 2 uses sound effects from the genesis version. SNES didn't have all the levels, used incorrect music for some of the levels, but did have some nice graphical effects.

  • @wrestletube1
    @wrestletube1 Před 8 lety +1

    The most important graphical difference the fake mode 7 vs real mode 7 vortex tunnel still seems to look slightly better on SEGA. The tunnel is just drawn more like I would think a vortex tunnel would be drawn on the SEGA version.

    • @adamm3869
      @adamm3869 Před 8 lety

      Also don't forget that the SNES version runs on a lower resolution (256x224) compared to the SEGA version (320x224).

  • @shadowshield88
    @shadowshield88 Před 8 lety +1

    I'm guessing Dan is a fan of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Nice vid as usual. Love when Greg goes off laughing XD

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  Před 8 lety

      Big fan. And that laugh is how one of our friends actually laughs.

    • @shadowshield88
      @shadowshield88 Před 8 lety

      XD awesome. I wore my Nightman Cometh shirt and got a compliment yesterday when I went to a bar with friends. Unfortunately it wasn't at Paddy's Pub :(

  • @Agrahim
    @Agrahim Před 5 dny

    Mac and Dennis? How did I never pick up on the Always Sunny reference.
    Earthworm Jim was a fun game as a kid, played the hell out of it.

  • @severintw
    @severintw Před 6 lety

    @Console Wars Any chance you will do a comparison of EWJ 2 on SNES and Genesis?This game’s two 16bit versions get much less coverage and it would be great to hear how they differ from each other.

  • @Redmage1987
    @Redmage1987 Před 7 lety +1

    5:44 - 6:30 Dan! The Greg Clone is malfunctioning! I think it needs a tune up!
    I own the Genesis version of this game, but I've never made it past the bungee jump stage. I also never knew that they left a level out of the SNES version as well. That's kind of odd. Maybe I need to give it another try.

  • @driley1988
    @driley1988 Před 8 lety +7

    I had no idea about the missing level in the super nintendo version

    • @ConsoleWars
      @ConsoleWars  Před 8 lety +8

      Neither did we until we made this video.

    • @brpadington
      @brpadington Před 7 lety

      KKK KLAN You probably don't know what age group that even is.

    • @brpadington
      @brpadington Před 7 lety

      ***** The point if ny comment is that they have changed that classification. Some people think it means kids that are born in the last 10 years. Anyone in their 30s should have known about the missing level. It was very common knowledge.

    • @brpadington
      @brpadington Před 7 lety

      ***** I'll do that. Work on your reading comprehension.

    • @MorrisseyMuse
      @MorrisseyMuse Před 7 lety +1

      lone_wolfxj9 it's awful, you're not missing much lol

  • @littleman7514
    @littleman7514 Před 5 lety

    Why do you have two TVs right next to each other?

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime Před 5 lety

      Presumably to compare the same games on different systems.

  • @sdzero
    @sdzero Před 9 lety +2

    I really like this series! Subscribed!
    I always wondered why we only had the Sega Genesis version of Earthworm Jim and not the SNES version. I lean toward SNES a majority of the time, but even in grade school my brother and I chose to get the Genesis version of Earthworm Jim. Thanks for reminding me why! On another note, the Sega CD version of Earthworm Jim is the definitive version. I wonder if that helped the Sega Genesis version in anyway? Well anyway, thanks for the awesome video! I shall watch more and probably make more long winded comments like this one. :D

    • @madden8021
      @madden8021 Před 9 lety

      Sega CD Version isn't well Known for it's time but the Sound Quality had the Up roar and Tommy Tallarico did both versions of the Sega Cd and genesis Versions but the Sega Cd Cover did more better though. And i Praise Mr. Tallarico for the Good Job on it.

  • @Chicomite
    @Chicomite Před 10 lety

    id love a console wars on battletoads. this is easily my favorite series i recently found! awesome work

  • @Snotnarok
    @Snotnarok Před 10 lety +5

    I never thought this was a contest but I think nostalgia reins over all else it seems
    EWJ was made for the genesis and ported to other platforms, it sounds, looks, runs, is of higher res and has more content than other versions, the only one that tops this version is the SEGA CD version with a new level, more voices, improved audio, and added areas to stages. It's not really subjective, if you want more, you go with the Gen, CD, PC versions, they never did this game justice on other platforms, they RUINED it on GBA and it's sequel, the HD version isn't as good either it seems as that version is missing frames of animation, has a duller soundtrack than either 16 bit version ...but oh wait it has multiplayer *waves hands*
    Who cares what console it's on, this is a rare case where the game is the same more or less one version comes ahead. Unlike games like Sparkster where they're pretty different entirely down to not one level being the same.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety

      I agree. Some games on SNES/GENESIS aren't even worth arguing over. IF I recall, both systems sold both versions of games just fine, for many different games, so in the end it's really trivial lol.

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 Před 2 lety

      Like the Lion King video they made, the game is pretty much the same there was no loser there only few minor stuff was the deciting factor

  • @matthewlane518
    @matthewlane518 Před 4 lety

    That clone making scene was funny lol

  • @noufilmuhammad1344
    @noufilmuhammad1344 Před 5 lety +2

    The SNES music has more of a slap, while the Genesis music has more of a kick.
    What

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 Před 3 lety

      A slap has more snare, kick has more base.

  • @CollectingRetro
    @CollectingRetro Před 9 lety

    Just found your channel!! Subbed! I remember renting the SNES version and I recently won a lot with the Genesis version in it. Now I'm really looking forward to giving it a shot in it's truer form.

  • @xboxonevideos7685
    @xboxonevideos7685 Před 8 lety

    I bought this game recently on the backwards compatible store brings me back old memories lol I've been havin a blast using an arcade remote

  • @SkemeKOS
    @SkemeKOS Před 7 lety

    2:32 You didnt mention that the parallax scrolling was different between them.

  • @chrisplissken4626
    @chrisplissken4626 Před 7 lety +3

    Wow you guys are so underrated you deserve more subscribers

  • @NickEnlowe
    @NickEnlowe Před 8 lety

    Hey guys, love the channel! I'd like to see an EWJ2 comparison video-- I can't find one that compares only the SNES and Genesis versions. Usually they talk about the PS1 and Saturn versions more and don't make direct comparisons.

  • @theaaronshow3413
    @theaaronshow3413 Před 5 lety

    This sounds weird but when ever I play earthworm Jim when I haven't cleaned it with isapropel alcohol it freezes and makes my Genesis feel like it's dying by not booting up

  • @hanzo935
    @hanzo935 Před 6 lety

    Looks like the song "pumped up kicks" was heavily inspired by this game's song at 7:50

  • @vladucard42
    @vladucard42 Před 6 lety

    Confirm me a myth plz is true what EWJ2 in genesis has bosses and SNES don't have any one?

  • @earlduran6419
    @earlduran6419 Před 6 lety +1

    Nintendo chose the Sega Genesis version not the Yoshi's SNES homebrew version because Mario chose the Sega Genesis version get it. Because at 11:03

  • @happy543210
    @happy543210 Před 9 lety +2

    i owned both nintendo and sega consoles (not pc emulators) and totally consider sega the better of the two.

  • @TheSponge278
    @TheSponge278 Před 10 lety +5

    Do Earthwrorm Jim 2!

  • @co81385
    @co81385 Před 3 lety +2

    I agree that the Genesis version was way better. It feels almost as if the game was originally developed with the Genesis in mind, and that the Super NES version came second.

    • @Spewa-em8cm
      @Spewa-em8cm Před 3 lety +2

      Thats exactly what happened actually.

  • @PimpUigi
    @PimpUigi Před 10 lety +1

    The Wii did that with Boogerman as well!

  • @JimHawkwind03411
    @JimHawkwind03411 Před 8 lety +5

    Keep in mind that EWJ was developed and released for the Genesis first, and was then ported to the SNES.
    EWJ was built on a revised version of David Perry's engine that was used previously in the Genesis versions of Global Gladiators, Cool Spot, and Aladdin, as well as Robocop Vs. Terminator (which wasn't developed by Perry).

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Před 7 lety +2

      And Tommy Tallarico did the music for Earthworm Jim. Tommy had to credit Mark Miller for the music for some undisclosed legal reason. But Tallarico did do the music.

  • @SharifSourour
    @SharifSourour Před rokem

    Wow because I had played both the SNES & PC versions back in the day and neither had that extra level. The PC version had the sound effects from the Sega version but the music more like the Nintendo version. Your channel makes me want to go back and play games I played on one system on the other since I had both but didn’t do that back then. Also you guys shed the light on some games not covered a lot on other channels like True Lies, etc…

  • @Medachod
    @Medachod Před 7 lety +2

    1:29 If ya want to get right down to the comparison stuff.

  • @dthtv2622
    @dthtv2622 Před 4 lety

    the ending scared me as a kid and it still does

  • @CassioQueixudo
    @CassioQueixudo Před 4 lety

    Awesome episode!

  • @NibzEntertainment
    @NibzEntertainment Před 3 lety

    @Console Wars Hello! You forgot that the Super Nintendo game is cropped, and the Sega Genesis game gives you the full picture.

  • @BITPLAKIS
    @BITPLAKIS Před 10 lety

    That's right! Nice to see you back with new episode of console wars!^^,)

  • @RadicalRichard19
    @RadicalRichard19 Před 9 lety +2

    One the best games ever made, Sound wise I do Think the Sega Genesis had a much more "Punchier" and upbeat audio over Super Nintendo's

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 Před 9 lety

      Radical Richard It was really good at rock or (synth) guitar based music, it just sounded right on Genesis with that style like with Earthworm Jim, which had music written specifically for the Genesis' sound chip.

  • @uncharted3958
    @uncharted3958 Před 7 lety

    A few suggestions: 3 Ninjas Kickback, Joe & Mac, Chuck Rock, and DEFINITELY Shaq Fu.

  • @user-tf9xy9bh6i
    @user-tf9xy9bh6i Před 10 lety +3

    MANY sequels? There was two... How is that 'many'? - Aside from that kind of silly comment though; I really like this series. It definitely needs more polish as the acting is quite horrible :P But with enough effort you guys really could become CZcams greats! Keep up the awesome work guys! I plan on watching more of these.

  • @SharpCinema
    @SharpCinema Před 10 měsíci

    Of course the secret dark level is pretty cool if you have the SNES version - but they have a special extra level themselves - honestly both versions are great, the edge goes to the SEGA because it was made for that hardware. What a lovely game.

  • @Spaghettaboutit
    @Spaghettaboutit Před 9 lety +2

    Mac and Dennis? That's an Always Sunny in Philadelphia reference!

    • @schjonicus
      @schjonicus Před 7 lety

      Spaghettaboutit I'm glad somebody else caught that! Dan looks like Mac too

  • @ClevertonHeusner
    @ClevertonHeusner Před 10 lety

    Deep and solid comparsion. Nice job!

  • @yurarepin8554
    @yurarepin8554 Před 7 lety +3

    Round 2....Jim2 Snes vs Genesis

  • @smitty462
    @smitty462 Před 7 lety

    did you there there was a Sega CD version called Earthworm Jim Special Edition, with CD Music.

  • @RIVEXNGLE
    @RIVEXNGLE Před 3 lety +1

    I had both as a kid, and came to the conclusion that SNES was better for its animated backgrounds. It felt more immersive.
    I guess I gotta go back and replay both of them to see differences I didn't "look deeper" at initially.

    • @RIVEXNGLE
      @RIVEXNGLE Před 3 lety

      Nah, SNES has best graphs. Genie can't shade colors for shit.

  • @SailorPalutena
    @SailorPalutena Před 2 lety +1

    There is NOTHING clear in the SNES music. The music What the Heck stops playing when the souls yell.

  • @ConsoleWars
    @ConsoleWars  Před 10 lety +1

    Really? That was a fun game. Wonder how many other games they did that with.

  • @UglyHans
    @UglyHans Před rokem

    Wow, these guys are some good actors!

  • @Valientlink
    @Valientlink Před 4 lety

    There seems to be a lack of paralax scrolling on genesis, which is surprising considering it's a beast for that.

  • @MrJeffreyBones
    @MrJeffreyBones Před 9 lety +1

    Sega Genesis version doesn't have the lens flare effect in new junk city and Andy Asteroids has bad transparency effects with some weird up and down lines running through it on Genesis.There are also other parts where the color is very washed out in the Genesis version. I guess you guys missed that or chose to ignore it. I do agree with the sound effects being better on Genesis, and I never knew there was an eighth level. Overall I guess your outcome is correct, although I disagree in the graphics area.

    • @Maru96
      @Maru96 Před 9 lety

      SNES port has some more detailed backgrounds (lens flare, parallax etc), but in my opinion the genesis version has better saturated colors, for example Stage 1 looks too washed out on SNES for me. Also, SNES version missed some animations and has worse (stretched) resolution.