HUSQVARNA 592 XP VS STIHL MS 661
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Same bar and chain on both saws. Stihl lightweight bar and 3/8 105-DL Stihl RS chain.
Here's a link to the Stihl bar adaptor. this allows you to use stihl 3003 bars on Husqvarna saws with the D009 bar mount pattern.
amzn.to/3GR0bWY
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HI, I was a Husqvarna dealer, for eight years, starting in late 1978. I still have my original Husqvarna 44 Rancher and 380CD. After 55 years, both saws run and cut like the day I bought them. In the last three years I bought a 562XP, a 450 Rancher, and a 592XP. In my experience servicing and using both Husqvarna and Stihl saws, I believe that Stihl makes a good saw, but Husqvarna makes a GREAT saw. In all those years selling or recommending Husqvarna saws, I have never had a single complaint, not one! Indeed, just the opposite. Shalom/gw
I wish Stihl came out with Huskys gas and oil caps
No doubt. That stupid flippy cap is the dumbest design ever.
Stihl caps "spit" fuel at you every time you open em
They also leak if there's the tiniest amount of debris.
Both great saw I think among the best from their respective manufacturers. The 592 is a beast but I think I'd go with the 661.
Both great saws...but the Stihl is better 😉
Besides the fact that the Husky has better antivibe, a better filter system, makes more power, and weighs slightly less, you’re right the Stihl is better 😉
@markshul03 I just prefer the feel of the 661 we got both at work the 592 is ridiculous. Really though both are big saws that will get about the same work done so just comes down to feel for me. I would take a 395 over a 661 I even kinda prefer my 288 to the 661 to be honest. Something about the new husky saws feels off to me but really depends on the saw a 550 feels better then a 261 to me.
I'd like to see a comparison with the dogs biting, and both saws loaded right up.
I do appreciate your video.
Regards
Liz.
That is totally improper technique for making timed cuts. Doing so makes the cuts inconsistent, slow and not repeatable. Doggin the saw in, and rocking it, always makes for slower cuts, always! You can't tell, but I was closely regulating the load on the saw to keep each saw in its power-band. I, in fact, always make other cuts with heavier load to make sure I was running the saw properly, those cuts are always slower.
Most of the videos you see on CZcams with guys rocking the saw in the cut, have no concept of how to make repeatable inaccurate cuts for timing. Doing so does not demonstrate the engines power. It has been discussed in the saw community recently, just how poorly some of the other comparisons have been.
None of the timed videos you see with guys rocking the saw in the cut have any validity whatsoever.
I do appreciate your input! I put a lot of time and effort into being not only fair, but I also pride myself on understanding what I'm doing and using the best technique known.
@@Andyshine77 As evidenced by completion cutting.
@@Andyshine77I get it, but I’ve noticed that the H bogs a bit when loaded deep into a wide log. Haven’t seen that in the S. I’m biased towards the H. I have three. But H dealers and repair shops in my area are going out of business because of H’s new relationship with big box hardware stores. They can’t compete. I’m moving to S because I can get local service.
@markbergemann1894 I order all my Husqvarna pro saws, there isn't many dealers around that are worth messing with. I have three Stihl dealers within three miles of me.
Thanks for the look, Cincy fan here too. I don't think you can go wrong with either saw. I am considering getting a 592. I currently have a 462 and run the 3/8 chain 0.050 bars. Am I able to run my Stihl bar on the 592 or do I need an adapter? If I go with a 660 instead I don't think there would be any problem would there? Looked OK per the manual for either saw to take a 0.050 or 0.063 bar but i wan't sure. I'd prefer not to have to buy a new line of chains and or bars for the Husky saw if the stihl are compatible to bolt on or if I can with an adapter.
Very nice! Thank your for doing this!
🙂 Thanks Joe. It's no dyno, but it gives people an idea.✌️
@@Andyshine77
Yes it does, sometimes the "numbers " look a lot more impressive. Really only a few percent difference between the power output. This is the tried and true method for sure.
@Dyno Joe Mods Seeing a couple percent difference while making a cut would be extremely difficult. These two saws are extremely close in power. The 572, on the other hand, is definitely behind it's stihl counterparts.
The 572 ported is a greay saw if you can afford it. Most guys port them.
I have actually been deciding on both saws, already run stihl, you may have helped me just make up my mind.
I'm glad the video helped you make your decision. Which say are you leaning towards?
@@Andyshine77 Stihl. 661
Yeah, good choice! 👍
Husqvarna 592 XP® Power output: 7.6 hp
Cylinder displacement: 92.7 cm³ . STIHL MS 661 Displacement 91,1 cm³
Power output 7,3 hp
661 is advertised at 7.2 hp not 5.4
5.4 hp is the 400
@@bluffsidetreeservice Husqvarna 592 XP® 5.6 kW. STIHL MS 661 5.4 kW
Yeah those are right, we do all hp here
Stihl and Husqvarna are the 2 best saws in the world the quality is the same
I'd say in the last 10 to 15 years, Stihl saws have noticeably better quality and durability.
Thank you for your review ‘very good honest and fair using same bar and chain.
I like both brands of saws STIHL & Husqvarna
will have to say I am very disappointed with
Husqvarna 592 xp it has taken them all this Time introduce a new 90 cc chainsaw all the bullshit
Advertising Husqvarna makes it has a lot more power than the STIHL ms661 what a load of crap
from my experience there pretty even on power.
I own both these saws the Husqvarna definitely feels smoother Your right about the oiler it is lacking Good review.
Hmm...not understanding your final comment about the bullshit... I have cut well with my 390xp but had a rebuild under warranty after 60 hours due to over lean mixture from carb ??? { dealer diagnosis}...had just got it back from dealer service at the time of failure. Otherwise it has been and is a Beast, love it...second only to my 3120. Owned Stih'ls in the past and unable to judge one brand over the other performance wise, both solid brands if you are spending any time on the saw
The 592 puts out close to 1 hp more on the dyno thats alot considering they are the same cc
I can tell you from my experience I own both the same saws they both have the same power.
Only difference the 592 is smoother.
BOB just demonstrated in his time cuts.
.8hp to be precise.✌️
On a dyno the 592xp shows .8hp more than the 661. Each saw will have slightly different power, and it will take a larger log before you see any real distance, I definitely need to find a larger log for an even better comparison.
Thanks for adding your input.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this. Nice sweater btw.
Thank you. I really appreciate the compliment, it takes more work than people assume. The sweater is use by some loggers out west, it's 100% wool. I bought from Bjarne Butler's CZcams channel, he's a logger in BC. bullbuckerapparel.com/
I was wondering if it was one of his sweaters, thanks for the info.
@@Andyshine77 you can’t beat wool, I’m a sheep and beef farmer in NZ, our return from wool only covers around half the cost of shearing so thanks for supporting the wool industry
Great video btw 👍
Great video loved it I'm subscribing
Love the Husqvarna 592xp
It's a great saw so far.
Hello from Northern Virginia, just subscribed. Both saws a winner, both powerhouse saws, Great Video 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
I agree!✌️ Thanks for subscribing.
That xp is going to be numb until it gets 4 0r 5 gallons of fuel run through it the new 572xps are the same way take 3 to 5 gallons of fuel run through them
People say that, but I have not felt that, and Joe's dyno says there is little gain from break in, maybe 1% maybe.✌️
the 572 is supposed to wake up after some decent use
Did you find your 661 to bog a bit when it got warmed up?
Do an m tronic reset
Correct reset the M-tronic system.
I can see you are not a husky guy. If you were, you would know that you can adjust the oil flow, flip the saw over, turn the screw. Get all the oil ya want.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I own 30 chainsaw dude and most of them Huskies. I've replaced the oil pumps. I know they have an adjustment screw.🤣
Probably a break in issue that its a bit "slow". HVA is a bit stronger and its probably a bit heavier then Stihl. Other then that its probably a Stihl vs HVA thing, some prefere one brand and another the other. For me as a Swedish im a bit HVA person since its from Sweden and it affect me in a way that is hard to explain. But i do like Stihl MS-400, 500, MSA300, MS-201 alot!. Bigger then that rarely is needed in the north. Thx!
Husky all day and ported they are mental.
There are way too many problems with these saws! They make great power but are not durable or reliable. The issue I'm seeing is leaking intake boots, cracked cases, and bad carbs. The 661 had numerous issues early on, but they've been rectified.
@@Andyshine77 are they as bad as the 550 and 562?
@johnwalt3504 No, not that bad, much better than those.
Mark you might want to watch this video again and you can see there pretty evenly matched when cutting.
I’m running both these saws and I can tell you from my experience they are even .
you also might want to see what they are saying
Husqvarna 592xp has more power than the STIHL
661 I don’t think so from my experience.
There air filter set up on the 592 xp is crap 💩 saw
dust is getting into the chamber (carburettor) filter not sealing properly that is a failure for me and I’m not the only one who has experienced this problem.
I have run the 390xp and 395 xp there a great saw they don’t have this problem.
I like both brands of saws STIHL and Husqvarna.
I will say the air filters on both saws let dust get through. With the Stihl you have the option of an aftermarket Max-Flow filter system.
I agree with you 💯 % you are right
What annoys me you spend all that money on 2 of the best Quality saws and you have rectify the problem max flo for STIHL on
592 I Wipe a small amount Grease
around the seal of filter and manifold base works well.
Agreed.
Hi William
I don’t think you will have that problem with the 572 xp.
I have used the 572 a lot before the 592 xp was released in the market.
Never had a problem with fine particles getting through into the manifold the 572 has better seal on the base.
Both very nice saws.
Very nice indeed.
I have an Alaskan saw mill, my farm tough 455 is a little slow , slightly under powered . which one do you think would be better?
I think the 661 is better designed and better built. But for milling, I would actually buy a 395xp or, better yet, an 881. The cost and capability of the 395 is very attractive.
@@Andyshine77 thank you.
Fantastic comparison! I hate to say it but on paper id assume the 592 would’ve impressed me a bit more. Both great saws at the end of the day. Thanks for sharing!
Go Bengals!
A lot of things can sway things one way or the other, like the lod getting slightly harder, and larger as you work your way down the log. That said, even when I compare them in a larger chunk of wood, I bet they will be within 1% to 2% of each other. The 592 is a better value, and there was another Stihl price hike, so the 661 is $200 to $300 more.
@@Andyshine77 they are within $50 of each other here in Canada
It’s the other way around here in Australia the STIHL 661is about
$150 to $200 cheaper than 592 xp
and that’s if you find one available.
Plenty of 661 available
Yes I've heard that before, Stihl has pretty much always been more expensive in the U.S. Right now I can grab a 592 for $1,200 the 661 is right at $1,500
What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD. 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
Which saw has better anti vibe? And which one oils better? I know you said the 592 should oil more but I have heard the 661 is stingy with oil too. Anyhow, features besides cut speed are what i think are important. The customer doesn't often ask me to race saws on a tree job.
AV is so good on both that it's a non factor. Both oil about the same, but the oil pumps go out more on the 592 and the leak more. Make sure the pin on you 661's oil pump is tapped in so you can turn the oul pump to max flow. The 661 is the better saw all around. It's built better it has a simplified design, so it's a bit easier to work on if needed. It's just a higher quality tool all in all.
Price differences between both? OTD
Well, I got a special deal on the 592, for just the powerhead I paid $1,060 OTD. However, I can buy one now for $1,200 and change. The 661 was $1,520 with a 36" bar and two chains. Without a bar, it was around $1,400
Thanks for the video … how do you like your Bjarne butler sweater ?
I really like it, perfect fitting and you can move freely in it.
I’ll keep my 395xp. I’m not a M-tronic fan at all. Don’t have any experience with the 5 series Husqvarnas
Love the 395, but out of the box the 592 walks all over the it and is lighter. The 585 is 86cc and has a regular carb, the 661 also comes with a standard carb or Mtronic.
Nice video! Q: Is bar Oil pump output on the 592xp adjustable? If so, can the volume be increased to an acceptance level?
Greetings from Norway/
Henning
Yes it's adjustable like all Husqvarna pro saws, and it's turned up all the way. It seems to oil well enough, I'd just prefer a bit more.
@@Andyshine77 I realize BOB is an "old hand" and I am new to Husqvarna saws, but the oil adjuster is "lefty loosie: for more oil and "righty tighty" to reduce -- I bet he knows that for sure. Just say'n. Also, the Husky All Weather or whatever they call it bar oil seems to flow faster. We used to use 5-40 HD Rotella in our non-adjustables in cold weather and for sappy pine. I would also like to see a tougher test with more load, like ripping a log.
@Rooster Yes, I know.👍
In the initial run/unboxing video of the saw, I made a few rip cuts with the bar buried. I intend to make another comparison video with both saws in bigger wood.✌
Yes its adjustable.
Stihl rule
Which chainsaw cuts the fastest?ms 500i vs 592xp vs ms 661 vs ms 881=???
In smaller to medium-sized wood, the 500i will be the fastest do to higher rpm. In bigger wood, the larger saws will be faster. The 881 is about torque for huge trees and for milling, not about speed.
@@Andyshine77 example a 50cm wood, which chainsaw to cut it faster
ms 500i ms 881 592xp ms 661=??
592 xp 661 ri yutar gerisi boş ve şunu söyleye bilirim huski yakıt ve güç konusunda üstündür
That sweater looks familiar
Great video sir. I'm pondering between these 2 saws bad. Right now I'm running a 25" 404 pitch bar and chain on my stihl 441c on my wallenstein firewood processor. I wanna jump up to one of these bad boys to run the same bar and chain as my 441c just a bit under powdered. Both seem like great Saws. Which would you say have the best Power and best low end torque in your hands? Also which air filtration is better? Thanks. I want a saw to cut down fast as the splitting ram is returning back. I have a video of my operation if interested in watching. Thanks.
The 592 has the 661 beat in max power, but only by a small margin. The air filter is slightly better on the 592 sa welI.. I would say if you like and are used to Stih products, go with the 661. I think the 661 has more quality built in and I'd better built overall. The Husqvarna does have it beat in all out performance.
Thanks for the reply. I own some of both brands for my logging saws. I find my 572xpg, 462c and 500i very close. Definitely rhe 500i has bit more torque. But haven't got to try the 661c or 592xp yet. So thanks alot for the reply. I'll probably get the 592xp then.
OK you own both brands, then yeah you can't go wrong. To me they're interchangeable, they both have + and -
Okay, that's way too much chain, dude. Swap down to ⅜ .050, and watch it eat!
@@Sawsquatch It is 3/8 chain.
Loggers out West !
Can you do the same video but try using Aspen fuel in both saws
I was using Tru-Fuel, not quite the same as Aspen, but close enough. Aspen is not readily available in the states.
Did you need to adapt the bar for the husky
Yes. I had to use the Carlton adapter and I had to extend the bar slot, and enlarge the bar adjustment pin hole.
Por qué pusiste la espada y la cadena de Stihl en la motocierra Husqvarna,muyala tu comparación 👎
1/2 gallon not sure how many tanks quit counting, lol that would be two.
do Stihl bars fit straight onto the 592xp?
No as I mentioned in the video you have to use an adapter. And even then, the bar will need some small modifications. I had to extend the bar slot by about 1/4" I also had to enlarge the bar tensioner hole to accommodate the tensioner adjustment pin. Very easy modifications. I'll try to get a link to the adapter and put it in the video description.
Actually, here is the link. amzn.to/3GR0bWY
@@Andyshine77 thanks, sorry for making you repeat yourself! my bad, I didn't listen closely enough.
No problem at all, I should have Included it in the description in the first place.
What’s your opinion off the MS400
Fine saw, with good power for it's displacement! It really depends how you plan to use the saw, "bar size type of wood". The problem the 400 and the 362 has, is the 462. The 462 is only slightly heavier, yet it has more power and overall capability. The negative with the 462 is the price.
So if you if you don't need the extra power, you can save money with either the 362 or 400. Obviously, the 400 will have the edge over the 362.
I will add that I no longer own a 60cc saw. I just grab a 50cc than move up to a 462/500i. If I could have only one saw, it would likely be the 462.
@@Andyshine77 I appreciate your reply. You are obviously very knowledgeable . A chainsawologist I’d say.. I’m a home owner with 5 acres in the country. I have a ms018. Last Feb we had huge ice storms roll through and I had a bunch of downed trees on my property. I tried buying little bigger saw to take some of the work load off the little 018 ( sentimental value, handed down from my grandpa). Every saw shop around was sold out, I ended up getting a echo cs4910. It’s a good saw and I had no complaints but still had the itch for a bigger Stihl. Really was thinking 462, but ended up with a 400 last week for the reason you mentioned. 400 is overkill for what I really need, and the 462 although it’s a certified ripper Is way more than I need. Now I’m just waiting for the weather to break so I can put the 400 to work. Thanks again.. subscribed
So which one do you like better?
All things considered, I'm leaning towards the 661.
@@Andyshine77 What do you like better about it?
@@markdonovan1342 Quality and a more simple better thought out design, especially the intake and carb setup. I can pop the carb off the 661 in 30 seconds, the 592's carb setup is a mess of wires hoses and brackets. The 592 does have the 661 beat in the way the engine revs out and a slight edge in power. Both are smooth, both weight about the same.
Is the Stihls still a bit softer mounted, less vibration, we used to fall with Stihls, landing buck with Huskys, just about keeping the saws running and costs in control, we supplied both saws, been away from the camps a few years now.
The difference in felt vibration between the saws is not discernible, both have excellent AV. The 661 may be slightly softer than the 592, but not a huge difference. The Stihl 500i has very soft AV, some say too soft, so they swap out the 500i springs, with 661 AV springs.
@@Andyshine77 I just want future fellows not to have to deal white the white knuckle crap us old-timer struggle with it's no fun.
And saw the landing buckets pull lots of the soft saw apart during pinches, now with hyd. loaders is easier I'm sure.
The 090 were heavy but dependable, needed the warm-up to perform, we needed the cool down from packing them in.
Not sure how Cali will deal with electrification on outdoor tools, Will be interesting to watch.
good video 👍🏿
would you know what the time of day the cuts were made at? and what the temperature was too? what im getting at is do you think the peice of wood was compareable in temp?
the reason i ask is that a frozen soild piece of wood i would think would be harder to cut than a thawing chunk of wood.
food for thaught
thank you for you time and energy making this video
The temperature was nearly identical, and both cuts were at the end of the day.
@@Andyshine77 thank you for clearing that up for me.
Just another thought I have heard people say that a particular saw will really shine when you get into wood that you need x size bar. Do you have any plans to find any bigger wood to compare them in?
@Wayne Griswold Yes I mentioned in the description I will be going after a larger log. You can also gear the saw up with a larger sprocket, stock is 7-pin I will likely do the compression again with an 8-pin on both saws.
It would be ideal if you had a subtitle in Spanish so that in many Spanish-speaking countries they could know your experience
I'll see what I can do.
just buy both :)
The Husqvarna is a much better saw.
I like them both, but I lean towards the 661.
Sieerr 180
Go bengals, you in ohio?
Ms500i westcoastsaw bark box and air stack,better than both of these.
The 500i is an amazing saw, but even with some light mods, the torque of the 661 and 592 are In a different class, as it should be with the displacement advantage. Now if you port the 500i, things get very interesting, and obviously the 500i is quite a bit lighter. These saws are for bucking and felling large trees, for most work a smaller saw with good power is more logical.