Husqvarna 592xp vs Stihl ms500i - Saw Off Fun
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Filmed in January, 2021.
We have a prototype Husqvarna 5??, which at this juncture no one knew what the displacement was. Or the model designation. Also, we have one of the early prototype 5ooi Max-Flow rain covers.
So, lots of R&D testing in this "strip".
Providing a little history -
My buddy Dave in Ireland had sent me his 5ooi late in February of 2020. While "checking under the hood", I had immediately noticed all the debris that made it past the HD2. I called my other buddy Joseph, Mr. Holeshot, or Mr. Max-Flow for all the "youngins". I told him straight up. "If there was ever a saw that needed one of his air filtration systems it was the 5ooi." Not that it was a "collaborative effort" as I was only providing pointers, suggestions, and observations. I did request the roof get added on to the 1st gen "summer" rendition. Early production covers were more open and suitable for dry weather conditions. That cover was replaced with what is now called the winter or rain version. The 1st gen covers utilized a 4 prong system to hold the element & cage against the filter base. I had "squealed" pretty "goodly" about aspect being a detriment. The end result are the raised, oblong rings on the inside that are similar to what is used on the 044 through 661 covers.
I had made arraignments with Joseph for a looksee session in June of 2020.
Actually, met up with him in Grants Pass.
Due to the covid fiasco, it took quite awhile to get anything, or everything, done on a production level. What would have been a few months took well over a year. That is, get the covers into production.
The following videos give a more in-depth discussion on timelines & some of the nuance.
• Stihl 500i MAX-FLOW Sy...
• This Is The "WORLD'S F... shows the 1st production cover.
• Stihl 500i - 1st Look!... shows the 1st brush/rain/West Coast cover.
This Husky, was well received by both Gary and myself. I had used this saw to fell and buck quite a few nice trees that are evident in the following videos -
• In With the New,,, Yea...
• 2nd Tree, Impressive F...
• Husky 592 Xtra Power,,...
• Husky 592xp, Nice Fir,...
I had immediately noticed that it had great power and made mention of it. I had even gone so far as to call it the new horsepower king below 100cc.
This was filmed ~ 2 PM. Keep in mind that the chain on the 5?? had seen at least ¾ days worth of action. At this point the chain on the 5ooi had only done a little limbing & bucking.
In the 1st run we see the 5?? smoking through the big cut and blowing chips. So much so, that Gary "runs" for cover. Clearly the Husky had a much larger diameter section. As we watch, we see the saws dropping through the cut at the same speed.
We see Gary's assessment of the 5?? after the 2nd round on the 1st small cuts. But then, we take a look at the diameters. 20" inches for the 5?? and 16" for the 5ooi.
As mentioned at the end of the video, the 5ooi is sporting a 32" bar. The 5?? has a short 36".
The Husky didn't win in the 1st small cut while giving up 4" in bar length & 4" in cut diameter.
Once we move down to the small end the times are relatively close. The 5?? starts a little sooner but it is at the same time getting the little bit larger diameter cut. The 5?? took "low ground" every time.
Important to note the fact that a tree is more dense at the base, near the ground. The wood is harder to cut - the reason the old timers would work on boards 10/12/15 feet up the bole. It's no different in this tree.
In the end, we did have some fun on this day.
At the time of your viewing this, I may, or may not, be immediately available for custom saw modifications. I am booked out several months regularly. Sometimes I'm out in the bush - making the world a safer place, one stump at a time.
If you are interested in having a saw zipped, please shoot me an email. That is the best, first point of contact.
I fairly busy and am routinely behind so it may take while for me to respond.
danger_cat@rocketmail.com
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Hello. There is insight in the description. I added some links for more info as well. Thanks for watching.
Thank u 4 all u do
"Making the world a safer place, one stump at a time..." nice Mr. Jack...
592 is the hottest out of the box saw in a long time.
Reminds me of when 371/372 xp cam out.
It sure is and its only gonna get better Husqvarna is really stepping it up they are already making changes to the 592 after all the test saw users gave them feedback on what to change and make better
I really like that 592, I perfer husqvarna. That 500i absolutely cuts fast and its light. I don't care the nomenclature, a good saw is a good saw.
Got 572xp and 592xp both choice quality. The 592xp is an animal/Auto tune the best.easy
That husky sounds like a dirt bike motor 👍🏼👍🏼
I'm a Stihl guy myself, but I'd still go for the 592 over the 500i without question. Having said that, I'd still prefer to stick with my 661 over both of these. But who am I kidding, I'd be happy to own and run all of them!
Appreciated this commentary. Humbly honest.
They all have their place.
Thanks for watching.
That white max flow looks good
Hi Jack
Nice review my pick would be the 500i.
I know that 592 has more power but heavy to
work with all day general purpose work saw 500i
power to weight ratio with STIHL light bar gets
my vote.
Thank you.
I think it depends upon the application. For me anyway.
Choosing between those two only -
Stumping with a 33" or 34.5" (short 36") bar I'd get the 592. They get pretty good fuel economy. A guy might actually accomplished something throughout the day.
5ooi, well super poor fuel economy.
20/25 mins and it's chase your camp again. If the trees are big, you might not even get one on the ground, limbed, and bucked up on one tank.
Not for me.
I think that everyl arboists should own a 5ooi conversely. Perfect for a lot of the in and around tree work.
Thanks for watching.
Due to the ergonomics the 592 seems light to me. Been using 6 months.
I've run the 395 (mildly ported) and it has left my ownership now and the 592 has replaced it. For bucking big logs and felling larger timber, I just can't find much to fault...maybe if it were a pound lighter out front?..or came with a full wrap handle, out of the box?..skid plate?
I don't know. There's just too much good stuff goin' on with this saw...
Of note, the 592 is just under 93cc (if memory serves).
It's definitely what you'd call a "healthy" beaver.
281 is it 💯
That 592 will SMOKE my 395! I bet it doesn't turn in to a rattle trap, either.
This saw runs better than the current stock - retail - 592s. I think at this point they were testing fuel mapping configurations.
Thanks for watching.
Love the new husky saws.
Thanks sawrus good job Trees-R-Us
White cove is wild on 500i great runin saws sir good job.
Yes sir. I like it too.
The only downfall would be trying to hide the saw in your strip. It can be seen from the moon...
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@@hotsaws101 lol very true
What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD!!!!!!!!!!!😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard 👑👑👑👑👑👑
After 20-30 pulls for starting i wouldnt talk shit
@@team_1j_jont-179 Husqvarna ain't shit, so I'm going to talk all the shit that I want to. STIHL RUNS THE YARD AND STIHL IS YOUR DADDY. 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👑 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
@@patrickpoulard24 no matter what its Stihl a piece of shit Husqvarna always has and will have the crown
@@bethanyhaskiell9116 Get off of the crystal meth and always remember to say NO to drugs. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🖕🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
Nice
Well Jack it seems more than a couple of years ago I sent that saw over and due to you and Joseph a whole lot of 500i's have been saved from certain death due to such a poor stock filter !
Having the 585 and 592XP I have to say I like the feel the pair of them have that ability to just feather away at the throttle as opposed to the more on - off feel of the 500i, however we must all agree that the 500i and 585 / 592 are saws at the top of the two company's game ?
Mr. Dave, G'day.
I do appreciate your stopping by. As much so as your valid & spot on observations, coupled with humility. What this world sorely needs more of...
A good and decent chap, Sam you are!
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How fun was that? You and Cousin Gary work well together making memories. Not fair to Gary making him eat saw dust.
It was a good day. I especially enjoyed blowing chips all over my cuz! Oh wait, that was my out loud voice, lol.
Thanks for watching.
So 91cc saw against a 79cc hum wonder what cuts fast also the 500i needs to idle for a few minutes so the injection n micro chip can map itself
Its just a comparison 😢
@@bethanyhaskiell9116 A poor comparison a better one would be using two saws in the same class like a 592 vs 661 92.7 cc vs 91.1 cc not a 92.7cc vs 79.2cc
It's toooooo bad more people don't read the description area of the videos. Might save some face.
Reiterating, this was filmed in January of 2021. Way before anyone outside of engineering and a possibility a few reps knew what the displacement was - of either of the two prototypes being field tested for Husqvarna at this time.
Now, two years and a couple of months later, everyone knows what they displace and the factory nomenclature for the models.
I am running the two latest saw from the big two here. Albeit a little early for the Husky. It is to show the, if there is any, differential. So, absolutely a fair comparison.
I spend a fair amout of time typing, "duel index finger shuffle", qualifying.
I mention it (qualifiers) in the pinned comment (1st one in the comment section) most of the time.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 the 500i was released to public in 2018 it did not take 3 years for stilh to publicized the specs the specs are released when the saw is btw the 500i cutoff saw was released in 2012 the specs have been around for years before this so called secret testing
The husqvarna 592xp was released in the UK June 2021 in the USA March 2022
@@jcc3999 hes talking about comparing the 592 when it was in testing before it was even
released against the newest released saw from Stihl to see how they compare because nobody new the model # or the specs of the Husqvarna yet and the only way of knowing is by tearing it down to measure bore×stroke and im sure he didnt want to do that until he ran it stock form
Top is a Douglas-fir forest
Looking for recommendations in the Midwest for guys to hop up a JRED 2152, thx
395 xp the best❤
Until they quit making it.
The Power to weight ratio cannot be beat with the 500i. You port a 500i you are walking on ms881 power at a fraction of the weight. Stihl 500i all day long. Husky is fantastic though.
The 500 will run out of beans before the 881 does as soon as you hang anything greater than a 42" setup on it. Rpm & horsepower, not exactly the same when the drivelink count progresses!
👍👍👍👍👍
93 cc I believe...thanks jack
92.66cc rounding to two decimal places.
This was, as mentioned in the description, filmed in January of 2021.
No one knew the actual displacement of this saw, or the 58? for that matter.
I did know that it had a 55mm bore. I speculated on the stroke based on the 390 and 395. Thought in might be the 58? Then I ran it....
Thanks for watching.
92cc hence the name 592
92.7cc is advertised (if I remember correctly) but... I'm good with the results, no matter what.
Jack, Sir I need some work on my new ms 661 what are your thoughts 💭 it only has 2 tanks of fuel through it.
If you want a great running saw then yes, better zipp it.
Sure hope you are using a good mix oil in it so far.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101what 2 cycle mix do you recommend or prefer ?
I got a stroax axe for ya let me know when you’re ready for it
When is Husqvarna going to make a fuel injection 6 series 500 i killer
Not sure how much of a "killer" it's going to be, lol. But, that saw is in the works as far as I know.
Some kind of handheld, tree assassination device with a Mag piston is also on the horizon.
It "only" took, what,,, 7 or 10 years for the 585/592s to hit the deck. Holding your breath is optional, lol.
Thanks for watching.
Don't know.
This carb thing has been around for awhile...maybe it'll work out for another day or two.
92cc 7.6 horsepower stock
92.66cc rounding to two decimal places.
This wasn't a production saw. It was filmed in January of 2021 - well before anyone knew what the displacement of this or the other (585) saw was.
I did mention the filming date in the description area.
Thanks for watching.
592 xp
Any rich people out there wanna hook me up with a 500i? Lol anyways I think they are both great saws
Awesome video, checkout Buckin billy ray smith’s channel , he didn’t like the 500i until he let it idle to calibrate itself. 👍🏼👍🏼
Are you sure about that? The calibration that is...
Thank you.
The internet is full of partial truths, ½ truths, complete non truths...
Unfortunately, anyone who is not a dealer with access to the dealer network, software and hardware, etc. CANNOT alter the mapping or set parameters on the 5ooi saws.
It requires being hooked up to diagnostics and then have the setting(s) "tripped" by the technician. At which point the technician would go outside and operate the saw. Then they would have to hook it up again and verify that some/all/any of the parameters were different.
So, if someone ran a 5ooi but didn't like it, only to let it idle a bit,, awhile, an hour, and then all of a sudden do like it,,, well, they are mistaken/outta touch/way off base - because nothing in the operating system changed.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 thanks for clearing that up. I didnt think there was an easy fix. The last 3 autotune saws i purchased from my dealer i asked that they make everything maximum fuel flow. Baby it for a while then let it rip.
What is your email address because I don’t see it in the description box! 😉😎
It's there. Thanks for watching.