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RAM trucks, Jeep SUVs and Dodge vehicles are becoming so expensive that sale are tanking. Can these brands survive? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Morgan and Morgan, For The PEople lolz.
Morgan & Morgan are nothing more than ambulance chasers
@@georgejuarez996 get in a wreck❓ get a big check! 💰
SPEK UP LIBRUL
Could they help my grandma who was SA after an auto accident? How much % do they keep?
Refusal to buy is always the consumers' strongest weapon.
Yes
Yes
Having a few mechanics as friends, they're all in agreement. Owners are deciding in mass to dump serious money, several thousands sometimes, to maintain vehicles they'd normally trade in by now. They're deciding to keep their vehicles for another 5/6/7/8 years for now, with the cost to maintain/freshen up way cheaper than buying new vehicles they wouldn't be happy with.
Sorry but prices can't come down nearly as much as you want because the dollar isn't what it was even 5 years ago. You can thank the Federal Reserve for that. Refusal to buy will put companies out of business before it results in the outcome you want.
. *"Then they go out of business"* !
There is a lot more room where the Studebaker, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Ford Falcon, Duesenberg, AMC Javelin play cards ♠️♣️♦️♥️♠️
20-25% off? That's it? They've jacked the price up so high, that "discount" is where the price should be, to begin with. Let them sit on the lot fellas ✌🏻
Exactly!
Even if you take it down to "Invoice" Price(Supposed to be what Dealer pays) there is still a "Pack" included, meaning when they Whine about "Giving them away for Invoice, AKA Dealer Cost", that Pack means there s still Money the dealer is paid. They're making money, no matter how Good a deal you THINK you got.
It's absolutely insane that the CEO of a sinking ship company can be paid 39 million a year !
He's in Europe.
Take home he's lucky to hit half that.
We'll he's delusional when he's up there
@@2paulcoyleno different in the US, about 40% federal tax when you make more than 300k a year and that’s not including state, local and sales taxes. Here in California the state tax is around 14% so just those two combined (Federal & State) is 54%
All the manufacturers have lost their freaking minds! Even my beloved Toyota’s!
I spent $400 last year on repairs for my TJ, guess I will keep it for another decade.
Last real Jeep. Keep it as long as you can.
I still have a '99 I bought new. Best Jeep they ever built, and it looks like, ever will.
Lol…I still have a jeep I built. Started as a YJ frame and built it from there. It’s been on just about every trail in the country. 33’s, 4” lift, real locker and a Good old 258 with a BBD carb on it.
🧢
$400 is a drop in the bucket. The local Nissan dealer wanted over $1200 to replace a radiator, thermostat, and two motor mounts in a Murano. Parts cost about $270.
Lot rot is going to become very toxic when the black mold overtakes the car that’s been sitting on the lot for 24 months and 6 seasons of cold, heat, and moisture.
That's what i'm hoping for , if that brings the prices is down 🤞
Pffft. Stelantis will still charge 50k+ and whine to the government when they need to be bailed out AGAIN. Every US taxpayer is pulling them out of the fire every time management forgets to check in with reality.
@@icosthop9998Nothing is going to bring prices down, keep on listening to these fools 😂
@@BlakWiseCracker L😂L
Well if any of them are like me, they will sit on that *"Lot and **#ROT**"* ❗️
@@BlakWiseCracker L😂L
Well if anyone is like me.
Those overpriced vehicles will sit on that *"Lot and **#ROT**"*_ ❕️
Poor quality and high prices are a recipe to ruin a brands reputation.
unless you're Land Rover/Range Rover. Then, that's the exact recipe for success
Stellantis put the last nail in the coffin for jeep products with the junk pentastar engine
@@thor3279 Have no idea why people buy those terrible land rovers I mean they're good looking but thats about it.
@@mattm9619 makes me think of the old "hot/crazy matrix" czcams.com/video/pInk1rV2VEg/video.html
I'm surprised the manufacturers get any idiots to pay their outrageous prices! 😐
irony is under the basis of consumerism I think they ran out or rich idiots lol
I know of 81 million idiots
I am surprised idiots watch this fake click bait channel
Buying new vehicles has always been a money losing purchase. Now it's a budget busting nightmare.
Don't do it, drive a beater, and buy property.
That's fine if you can work on one yourself. I was never great at it, but arthritis in my hands won't let me do it now. Instead, I buy vehicles new, and keep them 150K miles or so.
Or you could buy a Toyota that actually hold their value without question. My 2019 TRD Sport was $35K out the door, traded in 2021 and got 37k for it, same model, the 2021 was 39k out the door, traded that in June last year because I didn’t want the 4 cylinder turbo. I bought an Off Road which was more than the Sport, traded it and got 41k for it. The Off Road is loaded up and will definitely keep it although it was 45k out the door and mpg is bad. The dealer called a few days ago and offered me 2k more than what I paid for it, but I declined. Toyota vehicles hold their value.
MSRP is the "manufacturers suggested retail price", The current MSRP's need to come down around 40% before they start moving units at 7.9%.
We rented a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee for a 1000 mile trip. The Jeep went about 30 miles before it broke down on the highway and had to be towed. The rental car company gave us a minivan instead and had zero problems during the trip.
We rented the same for a long trip. After 200 miles the screen that controls everything went blank and nothing we could do would fix it.
If you ask a tow truck driver, he will tell you Jeep is his #1 customer.
This is facts lol
I have a friend that owns a large tow company. He told me Jeeps pay all his costs for the year. All the other vehicles are the profit.
Consumer Reports agrees that Jeep is the worst brand in the country.
Hahaha dude I swear I was gonna say the same. My friend owns a towing company and Jeep is his regular. Dodge is a close number 2.
I got a friend he only does Jeep, Dodge stuff. He said that the Jeep liberty put his 3 kids through college.
Our Ram Hemi is 12 years old with 200k miles and still runs great. Best trucks we’ve owned.
You just showed a whole bunch of future repos. That's if they can even sell them first.
People in here bitching about Ram and Jeep as if others are not screwing you at all. Civic is now accord price from 2019.
I bought a Accord 2.0T 6-speed for $29K and that same car with crap new engine and cvt is 40K now. Same with our F150 XLT, paid $37000 in 2018 and is $52000 now. They all there to screw us.
The difference with others is that their prices went up by about 20-30% since pre-pandemic period while Stellantis raised its prices by about 50%. It is a significant increase compared to the competition which makes their products the priciest over their competitors.
Biden Inflation 💩
Accord also dumped the great normally aspirated v6 it had now for a substandard Turbo 4.
@@julfeng Not even that sir, they dumped the 2.0T for a granny turbo 4. If you need a better engine upgrade to a 50K TLX.
Some of those other issues were discussed in other videos. The entire industry is wack. Average people cannot afford these vehicles.
Bought my first house for 78k.. 3 br 2 full baths, nice yard. These vehicle prices are stupid.
Where and how long ago
Says the poor man 😂😂😂
@@Hybrids4meok
1990 Florida... new construction. But that's beside the point.
@JUAN75001
Hardly... But if YOU want to pay that much, then as the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.
You being the fool in this equation.
@@kevinreynolds7125 What's funny if you "adjust for inflation" 78K in 1990 is supposedly $186,000 in today's money lol.. but I bet your house is worth over 600K.
When you golf this weekend with the CEO of Stelantis tell him the market needs more $90k trucks that are unreliable. This will save them.
Pay back for ripping us off during the pandemic. Dealers need to retrain the sales people to post pandemic
It is post pandemic…
@samueldavis5895 He's saying sales people and dealerships are still stuck in pandemic prices.
TRUTH
Mafia
The fact that the CEOs, and politicians keep getting gigantic raises while the rest of us stagnate will eventually lead to a massive uprising and it won't be pretty. It happened in France and the elites didn't fare that well.
It's already happening.
Stelantis CEO barely makes $40M a year.....LOL
@@msgmak1379 "only" $40M lol......that is his salary, not including his perqs and stock options etc.
HELL YA! Viva la revolution!!!
@@msgmak1379 *"Only* L😂L
The fiat brand as a whole, should never of surpassed 30k for any of there vehicles
Prices need to drop 50%
True story! I am a Ram 1500 loyal customer… UNTIL NOW. They are not the value they once were and there is absolutely no reason to buy a more expensive Laramie just to get my 2020 Bighorn options. I won’t be replacing mine with another Ram. They priced me out.
Problem is all manufacturers priced us out!
Same deal at Chevy, GMC, Ford and even Toyota.
Yep all auto makers are taking advantage of us all
@@DanzigDemento let me add onto the prices OUT for the big 3. If I were to need a new truck, I would have to buy used and currently, none of them seem to have pre-pandemic built quality or reliability. I would probably rebuild mine, regardless. They aren’t seeing the full ramifications of their greed.
when i want a truck i want everything as basic and low cost as possible with a 8 foot box. i DO NOT want any of their fancy electronics or whatever. a BASIC low cost work truck please! a heater and a radio that's it! the city hippies ruined trucks
@@halburd1 I agree. I need an actual work truck, not an overpriced family sedan on a truck chassis.
From my latest search the average national income is around 70,000. I don't see how most folks can afford any of these rigs. I brought an old used 12 valve, 1 ton lon bed with an extended cab and 120,000 miles off of the original owner. I paid 11,000 for the truck. Now I am a mechanic so for me an older vehicle in decent shape is a no brainer. With a few mods I can do all I need to with this older rig and it's a way simpler platform to maintain. These prices are insane. Drive an older rig that you can pay cash for, that way you're not making the bank rich off your loan.
Prices are horrible , I like how you found mostly 2023’s at hideous prices.
I bought my 2 door Rubicon in 2017 for 39k. The same setup now is 57k. Almost 20k increase in 5 years
bidenomics a wonderful thing. voting left always does this
5 years? Or 7 years lol? 2017 was 7 years ago...
It appears that someone wants DODCE to go out of business.
Have you noticed how many of them are 2023’s? The 2024’s came out in November, 4 months ago.
The financed floor plans will bankrupt some dealers.
He needs to go around and video all the rusty brake rotors in the lot lol
Unless a model is completely re-designed, the next model year can start hitting the lots in August… In general, model years are September to September.
I bought my Rubicon "Hard Rock" edition brand new in 2014 for 42k, and i was young and stupid and didn't negotiate. These last 3 years idk where people are getting the money that drove these prices sky high. Out of control.
With 1% down, and 99% on credit/loan, and which they're hoping the loan will be "forgiven" by tax payers with authorization by politicians buying votes
I made $328,000 last year and I just bought a 1998 Silverado. It’s only got 94k on it and it’s clean. I’ll just drive that until the powertrain needs replacing and then I’ll replace it with a new power train. I’ll never spend 60-70 grand for a half ton truck!
That Cummins Diesel price doesn’t surprise me at all as I’m a diesel guy and owned several diesels from different manufacturers over the years but the only one I bought brand new was a 2008 Silverado 2500HD Duramax LTZ fully loaded leather everything and that was something like $68,000 all the way back in 2008 so between normal price increases over the years and then the serious inflation the last couple years a fully loaded diesel for $100 or $110K is not shocking at all
I bought a new ‘23 Ram 1500 Big Horn Hemi Equip Gr-1 on 3-22-24 with a MSRP of $61k for $49,329 OTD. Bought near Kalamazoo MI. I did use the 1st Responder and Employee Choice incentive. I’ve been looking since September, watching Brandon and the Car Edge channel was helpful. 👏👏👏
That's closer to more reasonable
Congrats and thanks for your service !!!
You screwed yourself. $49k for pickup truck? Only people with $ to burn pay that kind of dough for a truck.
@@Daddy2Reminator well, I don’t have money to burn and 26% off msrp is pretty good deal. Plus I’m supporting my brother in the Union. 👏👏👏
My 2005 jeep hemi still running strong 💪🏻
Bought a 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4XE we only put 1800 miles on it.. we didn’t really like it. We paid $62,000 for it! Sold for 39,000 less than a year later… POS in my opinion
Yikes. That is a huge loss. I have a 2019 Rubicon Wrangler (non 4XE) and love it. The 4XE stuff just sucks for sure.
GawD did you take a *BEATiNG* 😮
Why don’t you just flush your money down the toliet, save you some time.
@@briangray5921😂😅
Yall didnt get the memo? Never buy a jeep..
When we start normalizing a price tag of $60,000 we are playing right into the hands of the dealers and manufacturers .
If I showed up at my dads house with any of those trucks and told him the price, he'd close the door in my face and never talk to me again..lol
Your videos are very informative. I’ll shed no tears for the dealerships.
really? Go back through his videos for the last two years and see the thumbnails and titles? "Its over" is shown like 10 times. "disaster" "it's done" "death blow" "can't sell" but auto manufacturers are doing just fine. Stellantis making 18.6 billion in net profit, ford's profit improved to 4.3 billion.... The people that watch these videos are the same ones who think buying a car now is the same as it was in the 80s. "walk away from his desk and he'll chase you off the lot and beg at your feet for the sale"
Sad part is, the $100,000 diesel truck has DEF fluid and filter issues costing thousands every 100,000 miles for repairs plus all the normal high tech headaches
Amen !!! So true !!
when i want a truck i want everything as basic and low cost as possible with a 8 foot box. i DO NOT want any of their fancy electronics or whatever. a BASIC low cost work truck please! a heater and a radio that's it!
FACT
The reason I'm still driving my 25 year old pickup!!
Dealership manager: "Motor Feed is here. Jimmy, get the Windex!"
Going to need an entire soap bucket.
My 1996 Dodge 4X4 truck ..one of the best four- wheel drive I ever own with straight front axles, limited slips front and rear..there was no trail that could stop me..Hawaii lava roads , mainly to go fishing..Aloha
I’m here because I was recently offered $36000 for my 2016 Tradesman (72,000 miles). I paid 32 for it 8 years ago. I thought it, wow, I made a profit.
With these prices and quality, think I’ll just keep it.
also the 4xe develops electrical issues going off road. trail recon had one and he took it off road and the dash lit up like a christmas tree. so he traded it in and got a 392 rubicon
I work on cars for living and people wouldn't believe how expansive parts are for these vehicles
No one needs these vehicles to get to work, unless they really use a truck in their business-not just drive to the office!!
Our a person may do both. Drive to work during the week and go off road/ camping on weekend. Or also do Home Depot runs. Another progressive trying to tell people what they need and how they should live.
Lots of people buy giant, expensive trucks as an ego boost.
How in the world does this go from showing us expensive over priced junk to advertising for attorneys?? As if there isn't already enough junk adds from the start completely ridiculous...
It takes a fair amount of time to produce these videos. Gotta get paid somehow.
It's astonishing that they raise prices for that junk.
All these corporations are out of control! The top people are making way too much money!
Six years ago I bought a 2004 Ford explorer with 120,000 miles for $8,000.
Three years ago I put a crate motor and new transmission for a total of apx $7,500. Have kept up with all needed maintenance and repairs. Paid cash for vehicle and all repairs. It looks and runs like new and should last for many years to come. I have apx sixteen grand in a great family vehicle that is every bit as functional and comfortable as a new SUV. I can keep it good repair, or I can spend a hundred grand on something new. That's a no brainer if you ask me.
all that is true about prices driving customers away. But don't forget how they are stopping popular models and ripping our favorite engines out of our hands, and replacing them with delicate highly stressed fiat engines.
I'm surprised the salesman didn't come out and kick you off their lot. 😮
LOL, yeah that will go over well on YT.
Sometimes, it looks like he hits those lots at the crack of dawn. Might be a reason for that.
@@andyp91 L🤣L
@TheRealScooterGuy yeah.
On another channel the guy hits the lots on a Sunday, when nobody else is around.
Its free ad people will buy
You know.. the loudest messege you can send to a company is not to spend your money with them.
Will the blue tow hook be the outward sign that the driver is a sucker?
Well in Toronto Canada all these wrangler Rubicons have no factory discounts and puny dealer discounts.
Stellantis isn't lowering anything.
Guess dealers are stuck with them.
New 2023 Gladiators and Wranglers are 15-20% off in the GTA.
@Lou-fm2kk sorry I was talking about the 24s
The fact sales are horrible and 25s are around the corner Stellantis is leaving jeep dealerships in a bad position.
I'm not a sales person but the fact they are obviously overpriced leaves 24s on the lot with not much to wiggle about.
We all know the system of what it costs to build them so a manufacturer discount off a 95k Rubicon X should be at least 12k plus the dealer discount.
The president said himself he's not considering a discount because he says they are a luxury car brand.
The fact a Rubicon X is more than any Toyota is hard to fathom.
In the U.S lots are full too and 20k off is not uncommon.
When you can order a 25 in 6 months those 23s and 24s are getting old fast.
They will sooon
😂 LOL! They will Sell . No problem
@@tedlulis973 they aren't moving at all , I live next door and see the same vehicles week after week
How many times do we need to bail these companies out?
I worked for a company in a different industry that after a sale to new owners adopted the same attitude. It was so frustrating to see what we had worked to build taken down a road that would surely lead us to failure. The question was asked here "when is this company going to wakeup?". I used to say the same thing but they were convinced they were right and ignored me and anyone else that voiced concerns. In fact we were labeled "negative people". After almost two years I said screw them and quit. Their low volume high margin strategy I guess worked for management but did not for the sales staff or production crew. They are still surviving but have lost pretty much every employee that was there before the buyout. The new people just don't know any better!!
vulture capitalism
Back in 2015 I bought a brand new off of the show room floor with the 6.7L Cummins even got the dealer to pay the sales tax and I drove out of there with a brand new 4 door 4WD truck for 40,000$ still one of the best vehicles I’ve ever bought! Still running strong!
Damn I wish I could get paid 40 million a year to run a company straight into the ground... I don't know what I'm doing so I'd be good at it like Carlos 🤠🤔🤓
20% off "make believe" MSRP's......Stellantis pulled these MSRP's out of their arses. Let the train wreck begin
They can sit on all that inventory till the cows come home and still won’t buy it
Those blue tow hooks are additional $5k
here in kentucky, they are so desperate to move 2024 and 2023 off the lot, glenn freedom cdjr has certain ram trucks with 15000 discounts.
still a rip off
Don't forget that to achieve the power numbers of the 4 turbo you need premium fuel.
Too expensive ?
Always remember that that consumer has the biggest say in what vehicles cost.
You said it, the lower trim levels of Jeep fly off the lot; don't they realize that people want a basic Jeep at a good price?
The Wagoneer is hideous on the road....I thought it was a van driving next to me on the highway!
My neighbor just bought a 2024 Ram 3500 dually long bed 4 door off the lot. I believe he said MSRP was 79,000 and he paid 75,000. It is a Black out style. He traded in a similar 2018 Ram. So far he seems happy with it.
Cuz his half brain cell convinced him its a world class investment 😂
That’s a house. lol. Happy with it. I bet he writes that down 50 times on a chalkboard or his apple journal each night. Telling himself he likes a 75,000.00 turd in his driveway
You convincing him or yourself. lol.
@@mikecarr1484 Hopefully its for work and a tax write off for him.
Hopefully he actually pulls heavy ass stuff
I traded a 2018 JL Rubicon for a 2021 4XE Rubicon. My milage on trips, where I rely ONLY on gas, I got almost 20 MPG with the 2018, but the Hybrid gets 26 MPG. While at home, doing small day runs, instead of just under 18 MPG, I get 30+. If I charge it at home and just run into town, I would never need gas at all. So yes, the battery is small, but since it regenerates when you brake or go down hill, the milage is impressive. Also, the torque (with a charged battery), is the same as the V8 version. I special ordered mine, negotiated $1,000 below MSRP. I got all the options, absolutely love it.
Best of luck when it breaks!
These things might not make it to your driveway without a towtruck.
They just got greedy and ignored all but the high end of the market.
The European ownership is ruining Jeep not only in price, but quality as well... none of what you showed was worth 75% of MSRP... maybe 60% considering build quality & durability over time. I bought and still own a '14 GC new and I assure you it wasn't built for longevity without costly repairs that should have never happened.
If you don't like the prices, keep driving your old stuff. My 2017 Ram Ecodiesel still drives and looks like a new truck with 170,000 miles. Paid for and trouble free...
Since salaries have not kept up with inflation of course there are folks who can no longer buy desired vehicles. What the outcome will be who knows? I suspect people will seek best value and this will inspire more sales of Honda CR-Vs.
I think the tea leaves that the manufacturers read have jumped out of the cup. Who in this economy can afford a $100k truck?
No one can and the very few that could or would buy have already done so when the latest and greatest first came out.
The economy is actually better than most people give it credit for, but even in a perfect economy, $100K for any vehicle is freaking ridiculous!
High interest rates to boot!
Love my 2014 RAM but looked at some new ones recently. $10,000 off MSRP here in Phoenix but still around $63,000......they can keep them.
55k for a Willys ?!?! I paid 42k for mine in 2018 and it was LOADED
I will only buy pre 2005 vehicles
No offense, but I’m so sick of these videos popping up in my feed. These companies aren’t going out of business. Are they selling less? Sure, the economic situation is terrible, but it will bounce back and folks are still buying. Go to a Ford dealer, no one buys Ram anyways
Bought my 2015 Ram 3500 Laramie crew cab 4x4 with Cummins new. MSRP was $62,000. Bought it for $46,500 plus tax/license. I put another $15,000 into it. We are not traveling or towing our 5th wheel and thought about selling or trading. With these prices and gas mileage so crappy on new trucks/SUV it’s actually cheaper to keep and daily drive!
There’s an old expression to never buy a car/truck built on a Monday or a Friday. Add don’t buy a Covid vehicle or an auto worker strike vehicle. The list is sure to grow.
What pisses me off about the gladiator is that it's half the truck at the same price. Wtf.
These prices are insane! They need to bring the prices down close to build cost or go out of business! 10:37
I bought a Silverado LT in 2022 it was 49,000. Love it. I feel like stopping to see the prices now.
In '19, a loaded 4D Wrangler Rubicon retailed for 47k. That white '24 is 74k.. The digits flipped in only 5 years. Unacceptable! My late model '21 392 sticker was 77k. The '24 is 96k! Corp GREED. Fire the CEO. Disban the EV group. Keep the HEMI. I've been a Wrangler fan since '00. Bought my first '99 4.0 TJ for 11k when it was one year old w/13k miles. My how times have changed!
It's getting nuts. That's exactly why I bought a used 2019 Rubicon. Prices after 2020 are just ridiculous.
My household income is $200k with no debt besides a mortgage payment of less than $600/month. Our government has crushed the middle class. Our newest car is a 2018 Fusion. I’m 57 and found a long time ago that news cars are the biggest thing keeping working people poor. But the prices now have finally made any new car or truck I would want to own just too big of a sacrifice. I also do all my own mechanical work, serious enough to have a lift in my garage, and I see new vehicles are in a period of new tech that has so many problems that it has made new vehicles very unreliable. Unless new vehicles return to close to pre pandemic levels I’m out of the market for good.
Did you know you can't take your money to the grave?
So you make 200k a year and spend hardly any of it.
Yes you need to save money for your retirement but you also need to live before you retire also.
You should come to Canada. Sport 1500 Ram Crew 4x4 is over $90k CDN. It's a half ton truck!!! They have lost their minds.
I’ve been working at a Jeep dealer for 15 years. When I first started I remember you could get a base model Wrangler for $19,995 not even kidding
The fact that the dealerships you were at having mostly brand new inventory shows people are still paying these damn prices for these vehicles.
5:23 lmao 103k for a ram 2500?? You are right not to believe it because no way would a dealer leave a 100k truck out in broad daylight for the weather to get at it unless it’s all bullshit markups pulled out of their asses.
The 3.6 Pentastar is the best engine you can get in a Wrangler.
Jeep keeps pushing up the price, but not fixing build quality.
People are not dumb when it comes to coughing up money, especially at a premium.
I went to a Chrysler dealership and they wanted $900 a month to lease a Pacifica
I have an '03 RAM 2500 4 door long bed CTD with 79,500. I paid $20k (traded in a '04 Silverado 327 + cash difference). I still own it but not working it for now. 313k and still runs great. Rebuilt the trans twice though. Needs a little tlc, but still ready to work and I'll be keeping it with todays outrageous prices. It's "cheaper to keep her" as the saying goes.
Wow, at 11:58 when I saw the back ends of all those cars I thought I was looking at the tails of 1990's vintage Firebirds!
With such great styling and high prices, I can't imagine why they're not selling.
55k for Willy's... F that. I remember 55k got you pretty much fully loaded Rubicon in 2021.
Shit, i remember when $3K got you a brand new Camaro convertible.
Said once I'll say it a thousand times, Stellantis is going to learn the hard way that building WAY overprice garbage isn't a winning business model.
Why will you buy a brand that has so many recalls? Buyers be aware.
I just received an email for my local CDJR dealer offering up to $15K off Chargers, and Challengers. Of course I'm quite sure I would have to qualify for a ton of things before I could get to that discount. BTW, how is the old Taco coming along?
An old guy that had Jeeps since the WWII models, these new Jeeps are not off road vehicles as sold. They will break. They are basically a car with Jeep tags. When they get older you have all kinds of trouble with the electronics. You can buy a scanner, but the error code is not always the problem. It's even worse for diesel powered trucks. They took what was the most reliable engine type and made it unreliable. When I was younger, you could short out your electrical system and still drive a diesel home. It doesn't matter how much cleaner new diesels burn or how much better mileage they get if the engine won't run and can't pass a repair shop.
Now I have an old diesel pickup. I get people wanting to buy it almost every day.
Car/truck prices are insane. You can rebuild an older vehicle from the ground up for way less, even if you have to pay someone else to do it.
With this prices we are witnessing elimination of middle class its not only car prices but everything