5 ANTI-META Pokemon You Need To Try!
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Too bad you can't win tournaments for shit
Damn bros mad
lmao sheeeesh
You should try to win a tournament
/j
Bro's a hater, cheater but still can't stop bitchin' about an achievement he can never even dream of.
He won a premier challenge with falinks(twice if I'm not mistaken). What about you?
I LOVE USING THE SILLY UNDERDOG ANIMAL THAT JUST SO HAPPENS TO DEFEAT THE META POKEMON IN THE FUNNIEST WAY POSSIBLE
Faust
RAAAAAAAH
Quagsire:
Try hissuian gastrodon + a hissuian zoroak with a fighting weak mon as a disguise, that way urshifu rapid strike cant do shit.
I sometimes disguise zoroark as the gastrodon and put a chi yu next to it. Those 3 pokemon pair pretty well together if you plan to give the oponent a mental shutdown
@@ignaciovelasco9452what's a hisuian gastrodon😭
I think the reason people run Goodra with so many supporting mons is because it clearly needs emotional support, probably support for its back too
This
While Nick hasn't revealed his Brian Hands spread, Wolfe has made a comment on stream that his Incin which was 77speed was speed tied with Nick's Brian Hands (Wolfe's Giraffe was 78 speed and he found out that way)
He also mentioned that during the interview that it actually came up in one of their games and never came up again.
So 52 evs
Wo-Chien + AV Archaludon has been a duo that has given me much success recently. It hard counters physical attackers since Tablets of Ruin ignores defiant. You can pollen puff to restore Archaludon’s health and make its stamina boosts even more relevant. The duo also deals with psyspam if you have snarl on Wo-Chien since both resist or are immune to psychic moves.
The problem is that incineroar and ogerpon are awesome againts them and flutter... its still flutter
@@iancastro1327 Ogerpon can be annoying with redirection (so you should have a spread sweeper in the back), but it can’t actually touch the duo. Admittedly the duo can’t do much to Incineroar, so you’ll need another mon in the back to deal with it. Flutter Mane is somewhat manageable unless it has support, in which case you also will need another mon in the back to deal with it.
The duo isn’t equipped to handle all threats, but it handles a lot of key ones very well.
@@Altered999body press deals with incin
as the guy who brought weezing to day 2 at charlotte, i'm so excited to see more people recognizing it still has potential
It’s a bit sad that weezing + booster energy roaring moon got nerfed because it was such a cool combo
@@Cigmacicait was sadly a bug
Dragapult + Weezing is incredible! I run Jolly, Steel Tera Dragapult with 252 atk, 220 speed, 4 in both defenses, and the rest in HP. 220 speed allows you to outspeed max speed/Jolly/Timid Chien Pao and Iron Bundle, so the only thing you need to fear is other Dragapult or choice scarf users when Weezing is next to it. I use Phantom Force with Power Herb, U-Turn, Will-o-wisp, and Dragon Darts. Phantom Force is a great opening move when players try to use a Tornadus/Fluttermane lead, and they think they can protect Flutter while they set up tailwind.
I run Wolfe's set for Weezing, and it is a fantastic and consistent set. 👌
Does the Weezing removing clear body affect you much in games?
I mean even in games where it’s active, you’re basically not using an ability if your opponent doesn’t have intimidate or stat lower moves
How does this help you against Bundle when 90% of them are speed booster?
@@Endershock1678 that’s one Mon that isn’t too common atm. Bundle loses to 90% of any decently strong special moves. Power gem (not even meteor beam) from glimmora ohkos it. Moonblast from flutter, hyper voice from Tera normal blood moon, chi yu, the list goes on for how many things can handle bundle.
@@Endershock1678 weezing turns it off
Coming back to this video, after having watched Liverpool Regionals.... Plenty of Ting-Lu, especially on Spanish teams, made it to day 2 and they even showcased a team featuring Galarian Weezing on stream....
I was just having this video on in the background, half listening to it when i heard "ability shield" and it SHOOK me
I've been unironicly using Male Meowstic as a support pokemon as it naturally out-speeds all relevant Fake Out pokemon so it can Fake Out them before they can do it to my other pokemon. I also have it with Thunder Wave for speed control and Psychic Noise for some damage and anti healing. I've been using it with Gravity to support Lando-I to basically get unstoppable Sandsear Storm's.
I really liked using Sap Sipper H-Goodra combined with a H-Lilligant hitting Petal Blizzard with Hustle. Its SUPER gimmicky and not all that good, but getting goodra +2atk, +1df turn one while also (potentially) hitting both opposing mons with a huge Petal Blizzard is super fun
I’ll have to try and find these guys! Also, can we plz make “To The Maximumerest!”, the channel motto?
pult is my favourite pokémon and i’ve been a pult believer since it dropped this gen this is finally its meta
Personally favorite in this meta is running Latios with Kommo-o since lati learns simple beam and so far is the only thing that can learn it. So now when I get off side simple beam, clangous soul Kommo-o goes crazy
The weezing/incineroar core seems so fun ! Definitly gonna try that.
ayyy ability shield incin + weezing is CRAZY people should start using that 👀
wo chien is actually the #1 anti meta mon. beats incin, flutter and ursifu
I would not argue that it beats Incineroar. If you Tera maybe.
I like so much the idea of running again Dragapult, and for the Goodra, I think the same thing is not the win con but a Win con, a few months ago in put Goodra in a Sun team only for rain team match-up and it work well
I think Okidogi has a great niche too. It OHKOs most variants of Ogerpon. And upper hand makes your opponent not want to use priority moves with upper hand. AV oki has been my mvp in a lot of games
He eats dazzling gleans and moon blasts from flutter and fires back gunk shot
upper hand is terrible
@@PrismaAceOn open team sheets, its biggest damage threat is purely psychological. You could essentially just be running Okidogi with three moves in exchange for making your opponents’ priority users reduced to three moves
@@WalkinStereotype
It’s like Choice Specs Flutter Mane with protect. Are you gonna click it? Probably not. Does the fear of you clicking it change how the opponents play? Maybe not, but maybe so.
@@Endershock1678ok thats just terrible
I like to use alolan executor because it get acces to trick room and dragon cheer. basically you can dragon cheer a razor claw hydrapple in trick room and get off leaf storm and draco meteor and ignore the attack drop cause it auto crits. also has good synergy with torkoal because harvest and a berry, sets up trick room for drought eruption torkoal.
Hey Moxie, any chance you could make a video about the return of TerraCotta? It’s my favorite team style and I’d love to see your take on it!
ive been having a blast running a bulky Tera steel komoo
it kinda just walls out alot of the physical attackers this format
What about Tinkaton? It has mold breaker fake out that helps against the plethora of currently common archetypes like dragpao teams with inner focus as well as girafarig teams. Being an incredibly fast encore user also makes it a decent option too which can punish a few team comps or mons. A lot of teams also have only one answer against the typing with fire being on nearly every single team or ground type moves as flex choice.
I’ve been having a lot of success on ladder with Thundurus, prankster eerie impulse and taunts with wildbolt Storm with a physically defensive spread and rocky helmet does really well into Torn Urshifu, Flutter Mane, and cripples raging bolt with eerie impulse. It’s a very fun mon that does really well into a lot of things but not one I see very often on teams.
no idea if it's good but i've been having success on the showdown ladder with comfey as a calm mind sweeper, if you can get some boosts up and intimidate support it becomes nearly unkillable, especially thanks to priority draining kisses that heal you a ton. Triage is actually an insane ability, you basically don't need speed control if you hace comfey since you go before everything, even fake out if you're faster, i run comfey alongside incin and lando-t for intimidate, pivoting and to hit the steel, fire and poison types that resist it, and rilla since its grassy terrain gives extra healing, boosts comfey's giga drains and overwrites psychic terrain if necessary
I will never forget when the game first came out and I could use scizor as a reliable anti-meta pokemon since it could OHKO both iron bundle and flutter mane with its stab bullet punch.
it could also OHKO grimsnarl before it gets to set any shields.
I found archaludon to be a good ting-lu partner. Archaludon holding assault vest and using ting-lu to lower the sp attack helps keep the staple remover alive on the one end everyone wants to hit it with
I figure H-Goodra deserves a separate shoutout. I've been running AV Goodra with Sap Sipper, Heavy Slam, Muddy Water, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam with Water Tera. It chunks hits really well, lures in spores and taunts, and can one-shot opposing Landos, whether they are Incarnate or Therian with that ice beam. I love this slug so much.
I think Sableye has a lot of potential. Alongside Prankster and an amazing typing, it has one of the best support movepools of any Pokemon, so if there's a hyper-specific support role you want for your team, Sableye might be the only Pokemon that has the moves to fill it. I often see it used as a screens setter, which is definitely a valid way to use it, but kind of makes it look like a worse Grimmsnarl. The main thing holding it back is its poor stats, but I still think some specific teams could hugely benefit from its unique skillset
There was actually a Sableye in day 2. I believe it ran with Comfey.
@@Endershock1678 Yeah, I saw it. Seeing it do well is actually what prompted me to make this comment
A friend uses it when we play and I can't state how annoying those will o wisps are
I wanted to try to make a VGC team around my favorite mon (well, the fully evolved form of my favorite mon), Ambipom.
I realized it actually weirdly slots in kinda well into the current meta. There are probably still mons who do what it wants to do but better, and I doubt it'd be able to make it far in a real tournament without a decent amount of luck, but here's the set I've been running (no complex EVs):
Tera Poison
Item: Wide Lens
Jolly 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 SpDef
Fake Out
Gunk Shot
Triple Axel
U-Turn
The only common mons in the meta that out speed it are Flutter Mane and Chien Pao. Tera Poison allows me to resist their two primary options against me (Flutter Mane isn't clicking Shadow Ball into a Normal type, so 9/10 times it's a Fairy move, and Chien Pao is using Sacred Sword usually against a Normal type, which is resisted by Tera Poison). The important thing is that Tera Poison Gunk Shot basically always OHKOs Flutter Mane depending on investment, and if Flutter Teras first (assuming Fairy), it's obviously super effective and kills without me needing to Tera. Gunk Shot is also great for all of the Ogerpons, who Ambi outspeeds. Bait a Follow Me by having Urshi-R out and just OHKO it. Or if it uses Spiky Shield, you're not making contact.
Triple Axel OHKOs Lando-I and Lando-T even at -1 from intimidate. Wide Lens pretty much guarantees you land all 3 hits (99% each), while also making Gunk Shot 88% accurate. I had considered something like Clear Amulet instead, but when I kill two of the main things Triple Axel is for through intimidate, I find that being able to rely on actually landing the 3 hits consistently is more valuable.
My Fake Out is faster than any other common Fake Out user and does a decent chunk of damage with STAB and Technician, so you have to respect it, which allows me to go for bolder plays.
Having a fast U-Turn is also great when it hits mons like Rilla, Ogerpon (not Hearthflame), Farigiraf, etc. super effectively, though I have been considering swapping it for something like Taunt instead, since many times I need to hard swap to avoid priority like Sucker Punch or something like protect messing up my pivot attempt.
Fake Out being its "best" niche is unfortunate for it in VGC since every good team is already built to deal with that move. But Technician Triple Axel is pretty unexplored territory I think. That move hits super hard for a non-STAB move. Originally I was Tera Ice even, but most of the time it doesn't seem to even make a difference, so that's why I opted for Tera Poison instead.
Ambipom is not a great mon, and like I said it probably falls a lot flatter in Bo3 open team sheets, but I think people have sort of neglected its speed tier with the existence of way faster mons as well as Oger hitting just below, so it gets away with a lot. Maybe someone can make better use of it than me.
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Ting Lu and Comfey with grassy terrain to boost floral healing sounds nice.
oh so that's why I randomly started playing 90% trick room teams on showdown. I really don't pay attention to the competitive circuit tournaments or meta picks, I've just been tweaking my team around. I played maybe 10% trick room teams before the last couple of weeks lol
Offensive corviknight is so underrated rn. great matchup into rillaboom flutter mane and ogerpon forms not named hearthflame
got to masterball rank for the first time using Alcremie for the ribbon and Ting-Lu was the MVP of the team. Dude was brought to almost every game. Its outstanding how many teams just hard lost to tera poison Ting-Lu
I haven’t tried it but I’ve been looking around for some other anti meta Pokémon and I found that AV Okidogi can actually wall dazzling gleams pretty well, of course there isn’t any vessel of ruin to lower the Sp. Atk of the opposing Pokémon, but Okidogi also gets the move snarl, and don't forget Gaurd Dog, which give Okidogi and attacking raise instead of drop from Incineroar. Maybe you could put it next to AV Ting-Lu? Just a suggestion, no idea if it’ll be any good until I try it for myself.
Ive had decent success with Registeel on showdown. Several times its even clutched games on its own
Reginald is a win condition. You clear out the Urshifus and get 1 iron defense, you’re set for life.
Been playing Ting-Lu and Orthworm(Functions more or less like H-Goodra) for a while and it actually works quite well
Me personally I want your professional opinion on feralagatr I have been doing great on ladder with it because of its ability sheer force paired with good moves that benefit from it like liquidation and ice punch I also use life orb on it and it has been doing insane in rain and dragon dancing first move because I pair it with iron hands fake out
I am glad someone else is talking about ting-lu. I have been saying its going to be good but no one has picked it up yet. That I've seen. I kinda suck capping out in greatball tier so maybe the higher tiers use it much more than what I see.
Do you think iron bundle may be good in this meta? He seems to match up nicely against quite a lot of mons like ogerpon wellspring, ursaluna bloodmoon, tornadus, urshifu rapid strike and can also have somenice speed control
Corviknight! heavy slam to OHKO Flutter Mane, immune to Lando-I's common set, brave bird hits a lot for a lot of damage, tailwind for support. Doesn't like Hearthflame Ogerpon being the more popular Ogerpon a lot though :(
i think galarian zapdos could be a really good anti meta mon into the urshifu rillaboom incin core
time to start running Corrosion Glimmora/Salazzle for the 5 people using the snail dragon
What type of Ogerpon Wellspring would you recommend?
Offensive Sweeper?
Defensive Follow Me?
Defense Leech Seed?
What kind of EV spread?
I don’t know if I’d consider it “anti-meta” but I was one of two players who made Top 256 at Charlotte with Suicune. I went 5-4 and it was my first Regional ever. So proud of Suicune! I used a Sitrus Berry support set with Scald, Snarl, Tailwind, and Helping Hand.
I’ve been rubbing Galarian Articuno, Gress Tera, Rocky helmet.
Imprison catches trick room users off guard. Lol it is hilarious and with intimidate running around, that competitive boost with freezing glare is crazy
Funny? Yes
Is the imprison practical? Not really...
Garticuno can and likely will wirk in this meta, the only issue is that fmane and Incineroar can counter it. Luckily, I don't think that flare blitz is common for Incineroar, so tera grass is a good choice.
@@Noteturtle90 Oh for sure lol if I see flutter or incin I make sure to bring the proper partner. It’s more to throw off those TR teams.
QOTD: idk how to ever convince you to do it, but i have been testing an alolan ninetales/Regice snow team with Pao-Nite in the back and it’s been not terrible
personally i think araquanid has stonks rn. lots of water weaknesses and useful resists/neutralities overall. waterpon is weak to leech life and can't hit it too hard, firepon loses mold breaker on tera so it doesn't actually increase ivy cudgel damage. rain support...
Ting Lu + physical heavy team w a definite mon = good times :)
I cant wait until the next game comes out and I can use different pokeys because i dont like rillaboom or any of these other seemingly mandatory mons
i cooked ting lu with the squad like a month ago teehee. as long as you can beat the grass and water types its insane
Primarina is my fav anti meta. Goes well against so many common threats
After watching this vid I think I will try Goodra since I'm struggling to build a team with Sinistcha. Maybe Cha is a good partner for it?
Mold breaker tinkaton has given me success.
I’ve been using eviolite bayleef, 252+ def 252 sp.def and 4 hp. I gave it reflect, light screen, helping hand and synthesis on it but leech seed shouldn’t be overlooked.
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Id like to see Regieleki in a vid lmfao but in all seriousness i do think Ogerpon Rock can be in a good spot rn as well as clam bax
What about Corviknight? It’s given me a bit of success, both as bulky support and IronPress.
Scream Tail isn’t exactly anti-meta, but it’s definitely my favorite niche pick. People don’t respect Encore enough and there’s so many choice Pokémon, disable is an absolute menace of a move.
Disable always seemed OP to me, especially late game. Just straight up no more Ivy Cudgel/Surging Strikes/Thunderclap whatever
Kinda surprised Gastrodon isn't meta. Resists Incin and immune to Surging Strikes and Thunderclap naturally.
Give it fire tera and it loses electric immunity but gains resistance to Rilla, Water/Fire/Grass Ogerpon and DG/Moonblast from Flutter.
It may not have the best Sp.Atk, but Ice Beam and and Earth Power give it so much coverage in the current meta.
Also forces switches with Yawn or and it can stick around for a long time with Recover.
The ability shield Incin is actually such a rad idea. Sure, if you can't bring Weezing then it kind of doesn't really do much for the Incin, but hey. Incin's there to be a problem and survive things it has no right to survive.
As for off-meta, I honestly still think that Alcremie is a good threatening support. The fact that you can have something like a Lando-I protect and you can decorate through the protect to give Lando +2 or any offensive mon that would really enjoy a +2 boost without risking being open to getting OHKO'd that move - like an Araquanid, Porygon-Z, Bloodmoon, either Urshifu, Raging Neck with a bulkier set and so on. I would say especially Araquanid due to not being able to get burned and absolutely makes Amoonguss irrelevant due to Sweet Veil. In fact, a +2 Araquanid has a roll (a very bad one) to OHKO an Amoonguss with Liquidation without even going for tera.
It has decent bulk on the special side and a fairly respectable 110 SpA, so you can go pretty hard into health/defense bulk. Has helping hand, has encore, has fake tears if you want to put it next to a special attacker, can obviously throw out 110SpA DGleams, I think the main thing holding Alcremie back aside from it's awfully awkward speed tier, is the fact that it doesn't get Moonblast, and the fact that it doesn't get Reflect - only Light Screen. Sure, you could use a Smeargle instead but then you're stuck pressing Decorate due to the immense need to use Choice Scarf.
Choice Scarf Meowscarada can OHKO most threats in the current meta (Ursh, Torn, Land, Flutter) with triple axel and Flower Trick!!!!!
I think the special defense boost you get from ting Lu is 33%
I think Protosynthesis and Quark Drive are not affected by Neutralizing Gas...meaning Mon like Fluttermane could still go for Booster Energy
They are effected. It was changed in an update prior to San antionio regionals
What do you think will happen to the meta whenever we get tapu koko?
Of course i see this video after I made my global challenge team with weezing and incin ability shield ;-;
I was literally using Iron hands/Heatran on showdown today and thinking “why doesn’t anybody use iron hands anymore? This guy rocks”
in my opinion, Lucario with choice band, with bullet punch is a great counter for fluttermane
I mean there's no reason not to use Metagross for a bullet punch bot, it's stronger and has better coverage, also has some of the strongest heavy slams in the game. Hell, Scizor is a better bullet punch bot than Lucario.
Of course, if you like Lucario you should keep using it if you want. But in the sense that if you want to delete a Flutter, Metagross is a better option simply because if there's a priority blocker then you can still heavy slam and they would have to be 252HP/252Def and something like tera fire to survive at any point and you also take full advantage of potential psychic terrain with Psychic Fangs.
The world is not ready for bug memory flutter mane
finally, the ability shield use case
I haven't seen the video yet but if you haven't included my boy corv something wrong with you. He's not gonna carry teams but the metal birb covers a few niches and is the only one who can cover them all at once.
Will o Wisp Sableye is really underrated
Wolfy already made a team revolving around weezing.
Is iron boulder not good in vgc format.?
Thoughts on Palworld or live stream you trying it??
Not interested tbh. Survival crafting games aren't my thing
DID I JUST SEE BLO' HOLE BLAST AS A GAMER SUPPS DRINK?
Lord ARKOOS HELP ME! IT'S AMOURANTH ALL OVER AGAIN
Gotta do my boy Gargnacl
Imagine going back in time a year and showing this thumbnail to a Reg C player
I try every day to make Porygon-Z work in this game
SO THIS IS WHY IVE BEEN SEEING THESE IN CASUAL
Feels weird seeing Iron Hands on this list bc it was top 5 usage and now it's an anti meta threat
What Incineroar does to a mfer.
I think baxcalibur has some promise as a diet chien poa
Sandy shocks is highly underrated
I LOVE USING GARCHOMP REGARDLESS OF THE META RAAAAAHHHHH!
That set was really fun at Charlotte, Pult did a lot of work throughout the day. Pairing it with giraffe and pao really enable its speed tier
Have you considered Pikachu? You could run him with Pikachu blast.
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Why do you have 4 sp.atk EVs on brian hands?
Why Ting Lu getting crazy back shots in the thumbnail🤨?
Photosynthesis isn’t turned off by weezing
It is as of an update that happened just before san antonio regionals
I never see anything on ironmoth and honestly it not a bad pokemon
I dont even play VGC, but Im 100% watching this
What website?
gothitelle, that's the tweet
why would you run wild charge over supercell slam on iron hands? just because of the fear of hitting a protect?
Protect is the most common move in vgc
I don't understand why a physical meta doesn't call for Wo Chien. I mean have you seen that snail? It is gorgeous 😍
I don’t know if this is considered anti meta or not, but scope lens Tera water inteleon with snipe shot kills most things that don’t resist it
That is extremely anti meta.
H Zoroark with a Iron Hands in the back
CLAM = Clear Amulet. Amaze
The irony of an anti-meta pokemon being so popular it inevidently became part of the meta.