Top 10 Differences Between Ripley (2024) & The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999)
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- Mr. Ripley is all about changing his background. Welcome to MsMojo, and today we’re looking at two on-screen adaptations of Patricia Highsmith’s Tom Ripley book series and their dissimilarities. We’ll only be comparing the 2024 Netflix series and the 1999 film and there’ll be major spoilers ahead for both. Our countdown includes the ending, characterization, Tom's reveal, and more! What did YOU think of the “Ripley” series? Let us know in the comments below!
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It was great I loved it but Freddie Miles was a girl and she could dress like a man you could see she was a girl so I think she was miss casted
I've always been fascinated by Ripley. The book, the films, the series. It's all great. I'm currently trying to find where I can stream Purple Noon. The version on You Tube isn't in English.
I loved both adaptations. But must admit, Andrew Scott is incredible.
More people should check out Talented Mr. Ripley. It’s very underrated
Agreed!
one of my very favorites of all time! That and Fargo starring Frances Mcdermott
Totally agreed! So underrated
Underrated? Are you high? It’s the best of all adaptations.
@@_PURAVIDA yes, it is the best indeed. Thats why it should have a better hype and attention and should be watched by more -thats why we say underrated but deserves much much better attention
A Ripley fan for years, I finally 'got' the title character when I read Highsmith's journals which were recently released. The series is more consistent with her world view. During her NYC days in the fifties, she had endless relationships, some with very wealthy women, that ended badly. Money was a constant worry for her and she grew to resent the people she hung around. She left the States to escape its homophobic atmosphere. The first Ripley novel which she wrote right before she left reflected her own repressed self loathing, but needed a male protagonist, or it likely couldn't have been published. The Price of Salt, which explored the difficulties of female relationships in the USA and showed a more empathetic side of the author was published under a pseudonym. Once the movie adaptation, Carol, hit the screen the novel finally got mainstream notice. The series captures the self-loathing more accurately while the film which I also loved took a lot of liberties with the text, still both were beautifully shot and acted.
I had no idea about all of this. I was wondering what the author's relationship was to queerness. I loved the movie Carol as well and had no idea it was based on another of Highsmith's work.
Her diaries and journal are amazing! A must read! She really addresses that otherness that Ripley dramatized so well. "I am no babbling brook of rebellion, but a smooth sea of varied, but honest character. And if I am green, when other seas are blue, I was born green, and I was born a sea."
I binged watched the whole thing. Absolutely amazing 👏
Me too.. so good
I think Andrew Scott did a great job ❤
He was too old. He's 48 and Tom was 25 as was Dickie.
@@SamSpadeHawaii That was my first thought when I saw the trailer. He might be a great actor (I haven't seen him in anything yet), but the point of the Ripley stories is, that he is very young, just like Dickie. And charismatic. I don't like the 1990s version (not a Matt Damon fan), but at least everyone looked the right age. I'd recommend the French version with Alain Delon from the '60s.
@@SamSpadeHawaiisays the person who only watched the trailer but not the actual series
I'm into psychology and did a fair amount of reading on psychopathy, narcissism and stuff. For me Scott has managed to do the almost impossible: portraying a full blown psychopath to perfection. Basically every trait I've read about those callous, sneaky but quite charming monsters comes through in his acting. I enjoyed every minute of it. The Minghella version is a completely different thing, though I liked that one, too.
Andrew Scott is so subtle and nuanced in his performance as Ripley. He needs such careful observation to understand him, a tiny flicker of a smile around one corner of his mouth tells the story.... he is such an amazing actor!
Ripley is quite charming in the 1999 version, the Netflix series is great but Andrew Scott's interpretation isn't someone you'd want to hang out with
How come nobody is mentioning Plein Soleil with the AMAZING Alain Delon? That’s the best version.
can't find a version with English Subtitles, my french is rusty.
@@anlondubh Purple Noon is available on Amazon Prime to rent for $3.99.
@@anlondubhlook for Purple Noon 🤗
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Absolutely. Even with the changed ending they really captured the character and the atmosphere of the novel.
I like both and Ripley is closer to the book, but I prefer The Talented Mr. Ripley. I think it is actually better then the book. Jude Law as Dickey is so charming. And Matt Damon’s version of Tom is somewhat sympathetic even though he is a psychopath. He gave more depth to the character. But both are very good movies.
Matt Damon’s ripley had more emotion, I think. When he first kills dickie, he’s noticeably panicked and it’s this panic that makes him a ticking time bomb. This new ripley is more calm and sociopathic
Yeah, when he killed Dickie I started to wonder what his body count was.
@@EdDunkle I don’t think Matt Damon’s Ripley had killed anyone before because of how much he panicked afterwards. Andrew Scott’s ripley? Really good question
Matt Damon was never Ripley for me. No where near. And although the film version looked good it got over complicated near the end and lost its way. Ripley has the advantage of 8 episodes and Andrew Scott is mesmerising. Also - I love the cat!
The most wonderful cat!!
If only Lucio the cat can testify. Haha
The Ripley series is MUCH better than that forgettable and shallow movie of 1999. The cinematography is superb, so very stylish!
Film is amazing. But I love Andrew Scott and he pretty much never misses.
Didn’t even remember they were making a series about the story. The 1999 movie is the best adaptation thanks to its charismatic cast with Matt Damon in the title part, Jude Law as Dickie, Philip Seymour Hoffman & even Gwyneth Paltrow is good as Marge. Plus the late great Anthony Minghella had the right cinematic eye for the movie
Absolutely not. The presence of Damon and Paltrow makes the 1999 movie utterly unwatchable.
I am a huge fan of the movie & thought it couldn't be outdone. Boy was I wrong. Give the show a shot. You won't regret it.
Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow are the absolute wrong casting options for this story
I hope the turn all books in the series into series, so much potential.
Loved the Cat❤
Lucio…..
I am a huge fan of the movie. I read the novel and I prefered the movie! It's the only time this happened. I will watch the series, and let you know later.
I watched the series yesterday mainly because of Andrew Scott, who is brilliant as Tom Ripley, but I prefer the movie. What was that with stairs all the time? Kind of pretensious, I think. It's worth watching for Scott, really.
Thank you!!! I actually began to laugh out loud every time stairs were reintroduced! And the constant clacking of shoes! Does no one ever take off their shoes in Italy? Especially if they are dragging a body down the stairs in the middle of the night? And why the hell didn't Tom wrap Freddie's head in a towel to prevent blood stains on the steps? So many stupid mistakes. I was very disappointed.
@@laurent.674 Exactly. And he didn't even notice the blood stains until after he disposed of the body. I was half expecting someone from the building to discover those blood stains before he came back. 😅
Andrew Scott’s portrayal of Ripley is absolutely reptilian. Shockingly good.
Overall - I’m partial to the series. The B&W cinematography will undoubtedly win awards, and the less Hollywood, grittier noir feeling of the series is a better fit for me…and of course - my favorite amongst the cast; the cat.
The french adaptation Plein Soleil is also awesome!
I really enjoyed both versions. Andrew Scott's acting was amazing in this role.
They are two very different movies. I enjoyed them both.
You Forget an adaptation of Highsmith's novel : "Plein soleil" de René Clément (1960) with Alain Delon.
Yes,thank you from a pedant.
Haven't seen the movie so coming from a biased perspective, but the shot design and patience of the show allow so many interesting details to be present in the show, like the thrill of travel and communicating with locals. I can't imagine the movie can be so rich.
Andrew Scott is the difference!!! ❤
I personally thought the show was better
Andrew Scott was amazing….like the series better than the movie for sure….
The series was brilliant!
The original French movie " Plein Soleil" ("Purple Noon") from 1960 is also a masterpiece of Ripley's story. SO interesting to see the 3 ( the 2 movies and the series) of them
yes, Damon and especially Jude Law were great in “TTMR”…. As were the side characters played by Cate Blanchett and Philip Seymour Hoffman… But the one thing they didn’t have was the actor who plays “Ripley” in the new Netflix series… He was in Black mirror. (smithereens) and who could forget Sherlock with Benedict Cumberbatch. My point is he’s an underrated top notch actor probably one of the best of his generation… So I’m looking forward to seeing Ripley, if only for that.
I loved the movie, and I love the series on Netflix.
I have been a fan of Patricia Highsmith and the Ripley stories since 1971 when I first read the Talented Mr Ripley. I have watched the two previous film versions and was excited to learn that the Netflix series was in Black & white as well as having the Italy scenes in Italian with subtitles. However, right from the first scene, I was uneasy about Andrew Scott. He is almost 48 years old and looked every bit of it. When Tom met up with Mr Greenleaf, he was 25 as was his son. I watched all 8 episodes and enjoyed it as I used to enjoy Cine Noir, but not as a good version of Patricia Highsmith's opener to the Ripliad. Patricia Highsmith herself liked Alain Delon as Tom. So my impression was that she wanted her character to be at ease and happy with his new persona. Both Tom and Dickie come across as older, and uninteresting.
Totally agree - especially Dickie is uninteresting in the Netflix series. Can't comment Ripley, because he lacks emotions and acts like a psychopath.
Sometimes there is a comment worth reading in the middle of the usual noisy cheer leading.
Thanks for that.
And I liked your "Ripland".
The Netflix actor (age 47) is not only miscast because he is (and looks ) old enough to be the father of Alain Delon ( age 25) and Matt Damon (age 29) at the time of their films. He also looks miserable and too serious all the time. What 25 year old living in a beach and trying to enjoy life (Greenleaf ) would like to have someone like the Netflix actor around ?
In addition, the first murder is a surprise and a shock in both films because their Ripley is subservient, "fun loving" and charming. But the Netflix actor barely laughs and is always so serious and miserable that when he kills someone it looks just like a normal consequence of his demeanour.
@@umbertoaguiar Thank you!
Sous le Soleil is never mentioned here, yet it's amazing, tons of french flair and a sublime Alain Delon.
The 2024 version was the only film that has been able to keep my absolute attention in a very long time. I very much enjoyed it!
Put Alain Delon's ripley too. Don't disrespect the legend.
Andrew Scott was brilliant as Tom Ripley. I loved the way the series developed all the characters.
I liked both the 1999 movie and the Netflix series. They’re different enough to be engaging.
I liked the RIPLEY more than the talented mr.ripley. Ripley is more detailed gives us a better understanding of Ripley.
That's interesting, because I felt the opposite. Couldn't understand Andrew Scott's Ripley at all :) He is without emotions, has no romantic or sexual feelings. Al that seems to motivate him is money. Matt Damon made me feel awkward with mr. Ripley, sometimes I found myself feeling sorry for him. At least I could understand his emotions (because they were shown on his face and expressions). Andrew Scott's Ripley was more like a psychopath to me. Can't say, who was more faithful to the novel, because I read it some 30 years ago.
@@1arttu sexuality was just added into the movie . . in the books its kept neutral like in the series, and yes all its about the money and image for him
@@1arttu "Psychopath" is just right. Even having watched the two films is still shocking to see Alain Delon and Matt Damon's first murder because it is unexpected. They played a subservient, charming, apparently harmless and fun loving Ripley whilst Netflix's Ripley looks miserable and too serious all the time. It's not shocking or surprising when he kills someone. It is what one would expect from a psychopath.
As for being more faithful to the novel: None of the three versions for the screen are faithful to the book but the one which seems to better represent the "spirit' of the book is Minghella's film.
@@turbulentmind2044 Richard's mother is showing an album of photos to Ripley: "The album was not interesting to him until Richard got to be sixteen or so, long-legged, slim, with the wave tightening in his hair". The Talented Mr. Ripley. Everyman's Library . Page 19.
Whatever ones preference: movie- series- colour- black and white, both stand up to each other . For me it’s very enjoyable to have watched both and see the same character Tom Ripley interpreted in different ways. However both actors succeed in their performances.
Purple Noon with Alain Delon.
Me gusto más la segunda serie, más emoción y suspenso, los felicito 👏 ❤❤Costa Rica 2024 la disfrute por Netflix ❤
La serie más exelente es la que disfrute por Netflix la nueva de Ripley del 2024 fue extraordinaria
I loved both! The differences between the two versions make them so interesting, but the photography in the series is amazing, a work of art, really. Personally I didnt liked Andrew Scott for the role of Ripley, even though his acting is superb.
I enjoyed both. I liked the black and white format of Ripley
I've watched both and read the book. And the movie seems more alive, the casting is spot on. The series is... Doesn't sit well, doesn't make sense. If i had to chose one is the movie, for sure.
I agree here, specially when the inspector visits Tom in Venice. Like a bit of lighting and beard was enough to convince the inspector? Why’d the inspector not check the “Tom Ripley” passport that was confiscated, surely he’d have found the difference right there and then
@@kilokay5506 EXACTLY
Never watched it, but i do agree with these picks. Happy friday afternoon, Rebecca. Take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well.
Ripley 2024 is one of the best TV shows I’ve seen in a very long time. I haven’t read the books but I can just feel the faithfulness to the source material in every aspect
Wonderful !!! It reminds me of those amusing Amazon reviews where the poster puts a five stars review on air saying" I didn't receive the cd yet but the cousin of the doorman of the building where my sister works says the music is good so I think I will like the cd so I am rating it five stars".
Your "feeling" couldn't be more off the track. The American detective who first meet Tom Ripley in the Netflix series? He doesn't exist in the book.
Every aspect? The actor playing Ripley is old enough (47) to be the father of Alain Delon (25 ) and Matt Damon (29) when they played Ripley
This is the description of Freddie Miles in the book: "...a young man with red hair and a loud sports shirt...He was also overweight". Any similarity with the skinny actress wearing stylish black clothes in the Netflix series?
Richard Greenleaf is not any near as rich in the book as he is in the series. I could go on.
@@umbertoaguiar Okay. It’s still better than the Matt Damon movie where his motivations were all over the place
Plein Soliel is still the best adaptation.
My grandmother watched the movie version years ago and she watched the Netflix version with me when it came out. We both enjoyed it and, when I asked her which she preferred, she said she liked the Netflix version better.
People keep writing about the movie version but there are two movie versions. Far too many people never watched films made before the 1990s. It's a sad sign of poor cultural background.
I absolutely love Ripley! The black and is brilliant.
Matt Damon was great in this role - didn't need another adaptation.
Purple Noon 1960 Alain Delon
I am cool with another adaptation but 8 hours! The film is so beautifully shot and you are seduced into it. Also the age difference in ages between the Toms sticks out to me. I guess I prefer the younger Tom.
Matt Damon’s Ripley was a great performance but there was one problem with it. His Ripley was not the same Ripley that Patricia Highsmith created.
@@sb5224 I don't see the "problem". None of the three Ripley are the same Ripley that Patricia Highsmith created. The more distant one is Scott. Not only because of the age difference but mainly because he looks miserable and too serious all the time, unlike Ripley in the book and two films who is funny. Ripley is apparently harmless in both films and in the book but Netflix's Ripley looks and acts like a serial killer in a Scandinavian series.
The best Ripley is Alain Delon who was actually 25, the age of Ripley in the book, at the time of the film. Patricia Highsmith thought he was excellent as Ripley as she said in a 1988 interview.
In Ripley, I wish they would have made the father appear more wealthy and "old money" in his mannerisms / dialog. And they should have NEVER had a woman play Freddy! That took me right out of the 1960's and threw me into 2024 with all this woke garbage. They should have worked harder at finding another Hoffman.
They are both great adaptation for their time!
I think the recent series is far more powerful. I might be the only one who is not a fan of Matt Damon's Ripley. The movie is way more eerie to me. I get way more creep vibes from Damon which I guess makes his portrayal accurate. I know Andrew Scott mainly as Moriarity (Sherlock) and 'Hot Priest' (FleaBag). I personally loved the black and white and comparisons to Caravaggio which reminded me of Citizen Kane. I lived in Italy when I was a youth and loved revisiting all that beauty especially in Rome and Venice, although I lived in Vincenza. I loved watching Tom learn Italian gradually. I loved the comparisons to Caravaggio and the big reveal at the end explicitly alluding to Tom's "Art" of deception. So well done from all aspects. The movie really pales in comparison to me although I love the MidCentury feel of the film, I feel the 1950's era darkness-in-naivete has been done to death. So it was nice to see a change in pace and style.
All cinema adaptations of Ripley were very moralistic, in the sense they ALL give the protagonist something he never had: a moral compass. The book character is completely amoral, and I find amazing he was imagined in the incredible moralistic decade of 1950. So I prefere this Ripley much more than Matt Damon's. The cinema adapation also made Richard a much more unsypathetic character, all these changes seems to me a kind o treason to the original story.
Talk about 'treason to the original story".
The American detective who first meets Ripley in the Netflix series didn't exist in the book.
Richard was not any near as rich in the book as he is in the Netflix series.
This is the description of Freddie Miles in the book: "...a young man with red hair and a loud sports shirt...He was also overweight". Any similarity with the skinny actress wearing stylish black clothes in the Netflix series?
Tom Ripley is 25 in the book. Tom Ripley in the Netflix series is 47 trying to pass by 25 and failing. He could be the father of Alain Delon (25) and Matt Damon (29) at the time of their films.
And the Tom Ripley in the book is not "completely amoral" . The only "amazing" thing going on here is that it doesn't look like you ever read the book. This is the " completely amoral" Ripley in the book:
"...Tom wanted to leave. But he hated to leave the man sitting alone with his fresh drink..."
...He wasn't stealing money from anybody.Before he went to Europe, he thought, he'd destroy the cheques..."
"...Yet he had a feeling of guilt. When he had said to Ms. Greenleaf just now . I will do everything I can...Well, he meant it. He wasn't trying to fool anybody".
"He had a feeling of guilt" "completely amoral" don't feel guilt. Read the book before writing about it.
Hate the 99... LOVE the 24!!! The old movie was such a "movie". I could never get past me watching Matt Damon acting whereas I never actually saw Andrew Scott... I saw Ripley.
I wish I had your imagination and could see a 25 year old charming, subservient, funny , apparently harmless young man (as Ripley is in the book and two films) in a 47 year old man who looks it and is miserable and too serious all the time.
Why film beautiful Italy in B&W? That’s a bummer. Was nice to see a former Ripley though 😊
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Matt Damon forever as Ripley.
Alain Delon
@@hinanochick Nope bad storyline and boring plot. NOT Alain’s fault, he was phenomenal as always.
Matt Damon’s Ripley was a great performance but there was one problem with it. His Ripley was not the same Ripley that Highsmith created.
@@sb5224 You are100% correct. His portrayal was sympathetic and I felt sorry for him. The most recent actor played him cold and stoic closer to the book imho.
@@_PURAVIDA It's really amusing to see people claiming that the 47 year old Scott was closer to the book than Matt Damon who was 29 at the time of the film. Alain Delon was 25, the exact age of Ripley in the book. But the miscast because of the age is the least of it. Scott's Ripley looks miserable and too serious most of the time. He looks like a serial killer in some Scandinavian noir series. He is nothing like the subservient, funny, charming and apparently harmless Ripley from the book and the two movies. Ripley does some funny pantomime in the book. I just can't imagine Scott miserable looking doing that.
I noticed a depressive pattern going on through the comments here:
Many posters wrote how the Netflix series is faithful to the book. It isn't. They obviously didn't read the book but it didn't stop them from pontificating about the book. Examples: The American detective who first meets Ripley doesn't exist in the book. Richard Greenleaf is not any near as rich in the book as he is in the series. And this is the description of Freddie Miles in the book: "...a young man with red hair and a loud sports shirt...He was also overweight". Any similarity with the skinny actress wearing stylish 21st century dark clothes in the Netflix series?
More from the book: “He could feel the belligerence growing in Freddie Miles as surely as if his huge body were generating a heat that he could feel across the room. Freddie was the kind of ox who might beat up somebody he thought was a pansy"
Can anyone imagine Sting’s daughter as an “ox’ with a “huge body” and able to beat up a “pansy”? Ah, the irony!
Also, there is no sense of enchantment of Caravaggio's paintings in the book.
A poster claims that Ripley is “completely amoral “ in the book . Other posters go in the same direction. Well, These are from the book:
" ...He wasn't stealing money from anybody.Before he went to Europe, he thought, he'd destroy the cheques..."
"...Yet he had a feeling of guilt. When he had said to Ms. Greenleaf just now . I will do everything I can...Well, he meant it. He wasn't trying to fool anybody..."
"Completely amoral” people don't feel guilt. People should read the book before writing about it.
Another striking difference is the sensuality present in the book and even more in the two films but absent in the antiseptic Netflix series where Dickie and Marge act like brother and sister. There are many more examples of blatant differences between the book and the Netflix series. I could go on.
Most posters think there was only one film about the book "The Talented Mr. Ripley". I guess they never watched anything made before the 1990s in a sign of a culturally impoverished society? There is a film which I think it’s the best film based on the book even if it is the most distant from the book because of its ending: "Plein Soleil " with Alan Delon who was 25 at the time. The exact age of Ripley in the book.
Many posters praise the performance of Andrew Scott, the Netflix actor. Their most amusing comments are the ones where they say he is the best Ripley despite the fact that he is so different to the Ripley in the book . Beginning with the age. Ripley is 25 in the book. At 47 and looking it, Andrew Scott is old enough to be the father of Matt Damon (29) and Alain Delon (25) at the time of their films.
Second, Ripley is funny. He makes Richard laugh. He does a funny pantomime at some point in the book, for example. But the Netflix actor looks miserable and too serious all the time. He looks like those serial killers in Scandinavian noir series.
Ripley is subservient, funny, charming and apparently harmless. It’s a shock when the Ripley played by Matt Damon and Alain Delon murders Dickie. It’s unexpected. But the Netflix actor looks like a psychopath so there is no surprise, no shock. He is just too obvious!
Incidentally, this is from an interview with Patricia Highsmith in 1988:
“Highsmith thinks that handsome Alain Delon was excellent as Ripley in Plein Soleil/Purple Noon (1959), René Clément’s adaptation of The Talented Mr. Ripley,”
And then there is the misinformation. One poster even claims that the series was made by Showtime, not by Netflix!!! But the series was made by Netflix and it has all signs of Netflix’s strait jacket on it. As a matter of fact, it was Netflix’s promise to release the series in black and white that made the director choose Netflix over Showtime which the director felt would be uncomfortable with black and white as it is identified as art house.
And all the posts about the beautiful black and white cinematography! It fooled me as well and I also praised the black and white somewhere else. But the series was shot with colour ! They removed it in the editing. Netflix does have a copy in colour but it’s unlikely that they will ever release it.Or maybe they will when they have milked enough the black and white version.
"Ripley" is a success despite the seriously miscast actors, the distortion of the original story in order to fit it into Netflix's far left political agenda, the antiseptic tone of the series , the dumbed-down "translation effects" . It's a sad indication of the world we live in.
On the other hand, I suspect the main reason for the success of the series is its magnificent , stunning, exquisite cinematography. But there is something wrong about a film where the images are more important than the story. This is especially noticeable in "Ripley" seeing that its director , a scriptwriter for the most of it, wrote the script of so excellent films such as Schindler's List , A Civil Action, Moneyball etc.
"Ripley" is a wasted opportunity. Netflix did it again.
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The recent episodic drama really FKS with your head. The death of Dickie... In the boat... "Dickie" dies in a boat. I knew it was coming and it was even that more horrifying.
The new version is much better in every sense. Great story 😊👌👌👌
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💖💖💖💖💖💖THE SERIES AND THE CAST ESPECIALLY THE B&W THEME AND PHOTOGRAPHY WATCHED THE SERIES TWICE, AND WILL WATCH IT AGAIN JUST BRILLIANT!! CLASSIC!
I need to read the book.
New tv show version is pure masterpiece, despite little connection to the original novel
Andrew Scott looks like a creepy old man playing a 25 year old charmer is the ultimate miscast in the history of filmmaking. It makes the whole series unbelievable even for one second. Thumps way down 👎🏻
The talented mr Ripley is the best. Hoffman is the best Freddie Miles. I don't know what on earth played Freddie Miles on Ripley
I have read the book and seen the movie but not the Scott series yet. Jude Law was so magnetic and beautiful in the movie and Hoffman was so excellent that they stole the show imo. The movie was really good but kind of faded in the last half. I will probably watch the new series and look forward to seeing a different adaptation.
I loved Andrew Scott version great
Such a weird 2024 conceit to pop a woman in the role of Freddie and expect the 1950's male characters to act like she's a man and for viewers to also pretend that she's a man. What a bizarre, anachronistic demand to do in an otherwise excellent production. Completely blew the suspension of disbelief.
8:30 Fun fact: The Freddie Miles character in the Netflix series is played by Eliot Sumner, the daughter of Gordon Sumner, best known as Sting. Eliot identifies as gender-neutral.
Ruined it for me. Added nothing but to push an agenda
how about the no singing "My Funny Valentine" in the series. would've loved to see Andrew sing. 🤭
Wardrobe and costumes do not seem accurate with the time frame. Looks like they just went to jcrew and shot black and white so we wouldn’t notice. No more remakes please.
Interesting. I really dislike Ripley for several good reasons but haven't thought about costumes not being accurate with the time of the story, 1950s. But Freddie Miles clothes did call my attention as they looked too stylish and 21st century on the top of being very different from his clothes in the book which are more like the personage: "...a young man with red hair and a loud sports shirt...He was also overweight"
I've watched the series twice so far.
I won't ever survive the death of Dickie.
Sticking to the source material is neither always a good idea nor a guaranty for success. I think Minghella did an awesome job. Ripley is soulless, but he knows it and it hurts his non existent soul. He his more than just a monster.
I was obsessed with this series. Andrew made Ripley sexy, albeit extremely disturbed.
I'd want to compare both iterations to Purple Noon, although I think both Purple Noon and Talented Mr. Ripley are arguably great films. Ripley however is too time consuming, even for a miniseries that's adhering to a novel, and makes me glad that films can condense things that don't need much elaboration, such as the lengthy pace of Tom commuting back and forth between hotels, cities, and stations. I even think the actors' performances are kind of two-dimensional and some of them are a little miscast, such as how they made Freddie and his friend or boyfriend too young, boyish, and flamboyant to be pals of Dickie who's a lot older, stoic, homophobic, and macho to be that open for their company. It's especially strange that Marge would accept Tom's innocence with how she behaves around him and I can't tell if she sent the detective that book with Dickie's photo because she realized Tom was impersonating him.
nothing about the series seems an improvement on the film
The new one is truer to the novel. The first one is pretty and has Philip Seymor Hoffman, which is a big plus... I don't care for the transgender replacement. Freddie Miles should be intimidating... I don't think Freddie with a vagina works.
Both had their perks, but the original's Tom was a bit too unbelievable, and the Cate Blanchette role seemed sort of out of place, which I guess it was. The new version is sort of slow in the first 4 episodes or so, but when the inspector enters the series. . .ah, then it shines. Couldn't stand either of the Freddie actors, but I think the modern version was unbelievably bad casting. I felt that had I not seen the movie version first, I would not have enjoyed the series as much.
No need to make another adaptation, the movie was great, top actors and actually gave Jude Law an Oscar nomination.
I respect your opinion, and disagree. The book is super rich, and deserves other takes. 😊
It was good, but there's more books in the series so I think a show series could see them all adapted.
What about the sequel with John Malkovich “Ripley’s Game”? And now John is in this version.
And why replace Philip Seymour Hoffman with a woman?
@@libelinhaa2079 because she’s the daughter of Sting
i would have watched this if it wasn't b&w
Andrew Scott is a poor choice for Ripley.
You can say that again. The fact that he, at 47 (and looking it) could be the father of Ripley in the book (25), Alain Delon (25 at the time of his film) and Matt Damon (29 at the time of his film) is the least of it.
Scott is always miserable and too serious . He looks like one of those serial killers in Scandinavian noir series.
Maybe that's why so many liked his performance ? They think they are watching "The Killing" or the likes, not a story where Ripley is funny, subservient, and apparently harmless as he is in the book and both films ?
Both were fine in their own right however there was nothing charming about the new Dickie.
How's it peepin'?
Black and white FILM is so warm and sensual and rich, so many subtleties in the greys of light and shadow, curves of light around ornaments, and it remains so even digitised later. La Dolce Vita is gorgeous.
Digital from the get go loses all that. The Netflix version is a visual snorefest. I skipped forward to see if it opened into colour for the Italian scenes but it was all in b/w. The thing about TTMR (and Plein Soleil) was how much you really felt the sun and nature of Italy and the sea, the environment. Who wants to watch a film set in a dreary flattened-out Italy that looks like a late night B movie gothic horror?
1999 better and its in colors. You can feel the mediteranean italian vibe .
The only difference that matters is that this new eight-hour mini-series isn't as good as any of its predecessors. Zaillian didn't have anything better to do?
Moriarty style 😂
The film and its additions is superb. The series is very well made but yet another example of Netflix squeezing every last drop out of a story that was brilliantly told in two hours with better plot twists. Netflix drags out everything because they want your viewing time. They are a con. Watch the film. It’s great.
Netflix did not make the series. It was made by Showtime in 2021 who for financial reasons sold it to Netflix. Netflix would never make something as good as this……… the opinion of most critics.
Netflix made the series. Not Showtime. And the series has all the signs of Netflix's straight - jacket productions.
"Ripley was initially set up at Showtime, but moved to Netflix in February 2023 after the network decided not to proceed with the series. “Both Netflix and Showtime wanted to do the show, and Steve [initially] felt Showtime would be easier to work with,” cinematographer Robert Elswit explains, but then “he felt that they weren’t ever going to be comfortable with black and white [considered to be art house, and less commercial], whereas Netflix said, ‘We’ll release it in black and white, but as per your contract, you have to deliver a color version of the show.’ ” (Netflix has no plans to release a color version.)"
I ve never watched the hollywood version before. But the series got me hooked and i was rather dissapointed..too many characters to expand in less time. It all felt like "catch me if you can" rather than thriller. But the characters of Dickie and Freddie in the movie felt more alive though..
Gore Vidal anyone?
The 1999 Ripley version is better.
Neither come close to Alain Delon in original
Andrew Scott is so creepy I can’t finish watching the series.
The newer Netflix version is like watching paint dry.
Thanks the new one is so boring. Why 8 hours? Where is the beauty of Italy?
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Loved the way the series adaptation was shot … but was not a fan of the casting. I watched it anyway, and was glad I did in the end. Still would recast several roles though.
New Marge was dull. Gwen was a very sweet Marge.
The series is a drag. It has style... it is beautifully shot, but the lack of chemistry between the actors and the casting choices, particularly for Tom and Marge, make for some of the dullest dialogues... it's all so stiff... it doesn't feel like a book coming to life on screen. SO BORING. Such wasted potential.