3 BIG FEATURES that Make the New Delta Cruzer an Excellent Miter Saw
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- čas přidán 25. 11. 2019
- Check out 3 features that make the Gen 2 Cruzer from Delta an excellent miter saw!
I've teamed up with Delta Tools to introduce you all to the new Gen 2 Cruzer. In this unboxing video I give you an overview of the saw along with some of the reasons I'm very excited about this new design!
Let me know your thoughts in the comments below!
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I think your review was one of the videos that convinced me to get one. I am so glad. This is an amazing saw. Right out of the box it was all level and straight. No adjustments were needed. It slides back and forth as smooth as butter. It cuts so well...
So well that you may end up searching for things to cut. Very impressive saw. I love how you can put the saw against the wall, using the mechanical arm rather than sliding rods.
It costs more, but worth every penny.
So glad you're loving the saw! 😃
I love this video. thankyou. You take the time to explain the start without rushing forward as a lot of other videos do. I did have an unreated question though. I liked your use of hearing protection and the dust mask. Could you please share if you still like them after years of use ? and also what the models/makes are. Thank you for your help.
Nice review, thkx!! Like what I see!! Not in market yet, but will keep this one in mind!
Thanks, glad the review was helpful! 👍🏻
Picked a 12" Delta Cruzer at Menards for $471 after 11% Rebate. Got the Delta rolling/collapsible miter saw stand as well. BEST purchase ive made for a long time. Not having the guide rails in the back saves storage space, reduces friction during cuts, and maintains zero noise.
It's a really nice saw for sure! Have fun making dust 😃😃
Mike, I really like your videos! Your worktable and outfeed table videos were awesome! You make it look easy! At this point I'm just trying to get comfortable with my table saw. It's still a standalone unit (mobile worksite version) so I'm looking forward to making it part of a workbench so I can have a built-in outfeed table.
Thank you very much! Table saws demand respect to be sure! Having a solid ordered table makes using a table saw so much easier and safer 👍🏻👊🏻
You, sir, are my new source for unbox therapy! :-) As for the video, can you hook up shop vacs to other compound miter saws with collection bags? That was a *really* slick idea I never would have thought about.
So glad to hear it! 😃😃 Yes, you can hook up a shop vac to most miter saw's that have a bag. It's just a matter of finding the right adapter which can be a project all its own 😂😂
Just received mine from the upgrade event, can't wait to use it. Good video.
Oh very cool! You'll love it 👊🏻
Awesome! Thanks for participating!
Great video man
Thank you!
I compared both the Cruzer and the Bosch, similar saws but the Cruzer just seemed like slightly better saw, easier to use, plus it was $150 less expensive than the Bosch. I went with the Cruzer and am very happy with the saw. It was dead on square right out of the box and I LOVE the shadow cut feature.
Right on! That's been my experience too. I still have my Bosch glide saw on the mobile work stand for site work, but the cruzer stays in the shop 😃
Thanks Man, I'm gonna get the 10" model, its on sale right now for $270. Im not a carpenter, but hopefully this saw will help me fake it 😂. Appreciate the video, Stay Safe out there...
Glad I could help 👊
Got “TEAM RIDGID” Banners all over and does an unboxing of a Delta Cruzer
RIDGID makes the same exact saw also R4241 and R4251
That saw looks very well built. I may have to consider getting one. 👍👍
I'm really digging it!
Thanks for the video... can you tell me what the minimum dimensions of the table this needs to rest on are? Specifically what are the distances between the points where it touches the table?
Hey Mike- thanks for the great video. Just two questions 1) how efficient is the dust collection system and where did you get that mask. Thanks again for the great work and helpful info. God bless you.
Thank you very much, I'm glad it was helpful! The dust collection is pretty good. I still have a bit of dust blow out if I'm cutting quickly though. It's an RZ mask! Here's a link 👍🏻👍🏻 amzn.to/33P5Afs
Have a great day, God bless
Mike, great video. I just bought this 12” saw last week. Can you tell me what adapter you used to hook up your shop vac? Thanks!
Thanks Donnie! The hose I have actually fits the saw and shop vac without any adapters needed 👍🏻 I don't know if they still sell it, but you could check out the Dust Right flexiport power tool hose kit from Rockler
@@WoodshopMike Mike-- I just got my 12" Cruzer today and have same question as Donnie. So what shop vac, specific model do you have that fits without adapters? I'll have a dedicated vac hooked up to this saw so might as well get one that fits. THANKS for the great review and pointing out all the features.
I have the Bosch version & love it but this Delta looks really impressive. I don’t understand why the dust boot on all Mitre saws is not bigger but small modifications can make them better as well as a dust box.
Great review 👍👍👍
I still have my Bosch glide saw too 😃. I keep the Bosch for on site with and the Delta dedicated for the shop👍🏻
@Woodshop Mike since you’ve had the Delta for a while now, What are your thoughts on it compared to the Bosch Glide? I’m in the market and I’m trying to decide between the two.
I'd still go with the Delta as it's a touch not accurate but they're both good saws for sure👍🏻
@@WoodshopMike Sorry, just to clarify are you saying the Delta is a touch more accurate than the Bosch or the other way around?
Yep, the Delta is a touch better 👍🏻
Funny the number one complaint I see on this saw is dust collection even with a vacuum on there… what vacuum are you running ? I don’t think a shop vac is gonna cut it with this based on other things I’ve seen
I currently have mine ducted to a 5hp Oneida dust collector and even with that it still manages to throw a fair bit of dust but it's much less than with a standard shopvac.
Hey Mike
Love this information I just seen. One question!
How is that blade that it comes with? Do you think it’s better to change it for getting smooth cuts on boards? I’m torn about my next saw. I have all ridgid tools and I don’t want my tools fighting and beating up the new guy. LOL
Thanks! The blade that comes on it is great for rough cuts or framing walls, but for a smooth cross cut you'll do well with a different blade 👍🏻
Woodshop Mike sweet. Thanks for a fast reply
Just curious, it looks to have a soft start? My dws 780 nearly jumps out my my hands and I dont like how much space I need behind it.
It's pretty controllable but I'm not sure if it technically has a soft start. Thanks for watching, hope the video was helpful 👍🏻👍🏻
Max vertical cut?
Aloha Mike, I noticed that you have Rigid banners in the back ground. I bought a Rigid table saw about 7 months ago and heard some mixed reviews. For example, when adjusting degree of cut with the dial it wont go back to 90 degrees. What is your honest opinion on the table saw Model # R4514?
I've not used that saw, so I can't speak to it. I did have used their cabinet style saw though and had no complaints
How's the "kick" on startup? I have an older Delta 10" Shopmaster that's pretty rough on the trigger pull.
They all kick a bit but it's not bad at all
What's the difference between the shop master and the cruiser
How's the kickback during startup?
It's pretty manageable. I feel like it's a little less than other saw 👍🏻
Any slop when you drop it into the detent slots?
It locks into the detents solid 👍🏻
Nice to see the metal miter scale. Years ago some manufacturers switched to those cheap, stick on scales and they are fine until they start lifting in the corners. Then next thing you know, an inch of it lose just blowing in the wind. Also, I find it easier to adjust a scale that is screwed down instead of messing around with the fence to align cuts.
Yep I totally agree! It's a well made saw for sure!
Does the 10" version also have the depth of cut stop?
I'm not sure
I'm torn about the 10" or 12", you guys have any observations that could help me decide on it? I'm intending to have it fixed on my wood shop. I'm particular interested in the space saving in the back.., not sure how much they very from the 12 to 10..., any tips I would appreciate it.
I think the space in the back is negligible, but it you're going to have it dedicated in your shop I'd go for the 12".
12” blades are more expensive...
Which one did you get?
I am in the same position and saving for one. Hope they go on sale as now they are selling the exact same one but Ridgid, the home depot brand.
I might get the 10" so I can take in my Civic to work sites.
Does it have bad deflection? Some reviews I’ve read have said that due to the glide system it can deflect and go off alignment when to much pressure is out on it.
I've not noticed any excessive deflection in my saw. I know Delta focused on reducing the deflection from the Gen 1 to the Gen 2 Cruzers. I will say that this saw has noticably less deflection than my Bosch glide saw or other sliders I've had in the past.
Woodshop Mike awesome! I’ve seriously been considering this for my workshop saw, it’s between this 2nd gen delta and the first gen Jet 12”. The Jet 12” now has a 2nd gen but doesn’t seem to be as unique and heavy duty. I run the Multivolt 10” from Metabo HPT (Hikoki) for my jobsite, and hopefully soon to purchase the 7 1/4 Multivolt as well. As far as a nice 12” that I can use primarily in the shop but if I need to take to a job site, strong components and power will be my big decision making factor. Thank you for this fantastic review and would love to hear your thoughts on the Jet 12” first and 2nd gen if you have heard or have any first hand experience. Cheers and happy holidays 🍻🎄🍻🎄🍻
@@benjaminromshak9904 happy to help! I unfortunately don't have any hands on experience with the other saws you mentioned. Maybe something to ping Jet about 😃
I hope you and yours have a safe holiday season and Merry Christmas as well!
Does the miter detent use a plastic "pin" like the Bosch or is it metal? And how has it held up over the last 8 months? Pros? Cons? Thanks in advance!
I believe it's metal. It's holding up quite well 👊🏻👊🏻
Soooo stupid smooth
It really is!
now that you've been using it coming up on a year soon, what do you think?? Is it still a great saw?? Is it still tight and accurate as far as staying 90 degrees all the way around?? Is there any play in those arms yet??? How is the shadow line when operating in a sunny construction site? I'm thinking of getting this saw once I can afford it, so your feedback after months of use and abuse is greatly appreciated! Oh and speaking of that...what is your level of use and abuse on it? Are you a professional contractor using it every day, or a DIYer using once or twice a month?? Thank you so much in advance! Any chance of a 1 year use review video? Sorry for the lengthy question!
Hi Gary,
Those are great questions! It's still a very good saw and holds it's adjustments quite well. There has always been some deflection at the full extension but it's not horrendous. If I need a super straight long cross cut I use my track saw or eventually will use a radial arm saw. I've not used the saw outside, so I can't comment on how easy it is to see on a sunny day. I am a full time woodworker and content creator so it gets a regular workout. I might get around to doing a one year follow up video, but we'll see 👍🏻😃. If you have any other questions just reach out!
So...Bosch designed this type of slide action about 6 years ago and its taken that long for someone to design a patent workaround. From what i can see in your video, The big advantage to this Delta saw over the Bosch is the inclusion of the shadow line. Now, we just need to find some un-biased performance testing comparing the two saws.
I have both saws and they're both good. I still have my Bosch for job site work. I have to give a slight advantage to the Delta in terms of accuracy. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Are you able to set a depth of cut and put a dato blade in it?
You can set the depth of cut, but miter saws will not accept a dado blade. You'll need a radial arm saw or table saw to use a dado blade.
@@WoodshopMike thank you
Hello great video and Thanks, The question I have is after 3 years , you still happy with that Delta Machine? or any complaints???, some reviewers complained about flexing too much laterally. Thanks again and happy new year.
Thanks and happy new year to you too! I like the saw and compared to the Bosch glide saw I had previously the lateral movement is slightly less. There is still some at the farthest extent, but for the majority of tasks it's not enough to be problematic. For me, the biggest thing to improve the accuracy is a good blade and taking your time in the cut. If you need dead on angles with zero run out/deflection along the cut I'd buy a vintage RAS (like the DeWalt GA I have) build a good crosscut sled for the table saw, but a standard 12" miter saw, or buy a Festool kapex. Hope that helps!
@@WoodshopMike thanks for your reply and feedback, keep the good 👍 work
Thanks!
Looks like a great little miter saw Mike! Thanks for sharing the video with us, Have a wonderful Thanksgiving! 1 Timothy 1:15-17 is a good one so is John 3:16 👌👍😎JP
Absolutely JP! I'm really impressed with what I'm seeing 😃. Hope you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving as well. (pssst, make sure to keep an eye out tomorrow morning 🧐)
Yes, that verse puts my own shortcomings in such good perspective, and John 3:16 is obviously pinnacle yet so hard to grasp as a parent. I mean, wow, what kind of love that is!
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How can I be sure I’m getting the 2nd version and not a first version that has been in the store for months or years?
I don't believe they're still selling the first version as this saw had been out for over a year at this point👍🏻
How about the extended cross cut by removing the fence?
I showed that real quickly at the beginning of the video but didn't actually make the cut.
@@WoodshopMike I was curious on how convenient and effective it was?
@@RobyWanKenobi oh I gotcha! Yeah it's really easy to remove the fence extension. I haven't had any issues with it. Sorry I realize that's what you were asking originally 👍🏻
@@WoodshopMike all good. Looking forward to hearing more about this saw in your videos. Wonder how stable/accurate is the saw head at full extension compared to Hitachi 12 inch slider? A couple years ago was looking at it but no one really had it and the hitachi had good feedback and half the price during black Friday. Been happy but big dislike is the front to back movement has alot of resistance compared to others brands with rails so I am looking to upgrade.
From what I've seen out of the gate this saw is much more stable at full extension than other sliders I've used. The movement forward and back is crazy smooth too! Delta focused on the stability of the saw head for the Gen 2 model
Saludos desde Ecuador excelente máquina máster me puede ayudar a conseguir o donde lo puedo comprar,,,es de 12, pulgadas gracias bendiciones
I have the 10” version of this. The lock to keep it from sliding doesn’t stay in place while driving so I have to use a bungee. The dust collection is pretty bad and the handle location sucks for adding a vacuum attachment. Also it’s pretty heavy and awkward to carry. However the controls are nice and the arms are really smooth. If Makita had the shadow line I would have bought their latest slider.
I agree the shadow lone is nice , i have the harbor freight Hercules great machine but big, been thinking on this delta for a while because it have the shadow line , the bosh for example does not have that.
@@wwmilanl I actually ended up selling mine because I was using it as a job site saw and even at 10” it’s huge. Guy who bought it was going to use it for his shop
BOSCH GCM12SD !!!
Nice video , why y’all feel the need to to have the poppy back ground music wile you talking
Any long term thoughts on this saw?
It's a good saw. I like it better than my Ridgid or Bosch, but I'm hoping to eventually upgrade to a Kapex.
@@WoodshopMike thanks for the reply! I just grabbed the Ridgid 10" model (identical to the cruzer). It was on sale for $219 and I felt like I couldn't pass at that price!
@robertreed711 right on! I haven't tried that one, but I'd be surprised if it's significantly different (other than a paint scheme 😃)
Do you think the arms will replace slide poles on all models in the future? I’m hoping to see this tech on my favorite brand.
I'm not sure. I think it's a great solution though!
Bosch Glide copy
They are pretty similar. I actually have a glide saw as well. They're both good. I give a slight edge to the Cruzer though.
Same as the Bosch just cheaper.
I have the Bosch glide saw as well. So far I'm actually liking the Delta more!
@@WoodshopMike I will definitely look in to it tempting now.
Woodshop Mike - Of course you would. You labeled the video as having paid content. Your contractually obligated to like it better
I have a Gen 1 and service has been non existent....buyer beware if you need a part!
bruce frederick do you care to elaborate and give more detail? What exactly were you needing as far as parts? And I’ve contacted Delta for parts just 2-3 years ago and no issues. Also typically finding a Delta dealer and giving them a call for parts is usually always the best and fastest method for parts.
Glad to hear you had a good experience.
y ru cutting while pulling the saw head towards u...thats not advised especially with blades with fewer teeth that may bite & travel towards u
That's a great question. I'm scoring the top to get a cleaner cut and I'm using a 96 tooth blade.
Belt drive? Yuck.
Plus its only 1000 dollars
Construction Karen…
Total junk Too much side to side deflection ..inaccurate
GOOD TRY