3 VS 1 | Can A Time Trial Bike Beat 3 Roadies?
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2020
- Last month, we pitted 2 road cyclists against Si on a Time Trial bike in a race to see who was faster. It's safe to say, Si on his TT bike smashed Conor and James - so we decided a rematch was in order. With the help of our new GCN Tech presenter Alex, Si got back on his aero bars to take on 3 ex pro road racers to see if he could defend his crown!
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TBH, Connor is about as aero as a house
He is a human parachute.
He is basically the size of a house
😆😆
Hahaha poor Connor haha. Brick shit house.
Birdhouse.
Next round: All of GCN vs Simon
Or just Ollie?
That would the fantastic seeing a chaingang against 1 SI
Pleasee i need to see this
Oli vs Si TT
@@gosato :D :D :D
Love Oli‘s advice. When I see other cyclists on a climb I go max effort for 3 minutes to overtake them and then hide in the bushes with my cramping legs. Totally worth it
Then on the next climb pass them again and inform them they are now a lap down.
@@dougse-bike9770 Dying over here now, man. Thanks for the chuckle.
@@dougse-bike9770 genious
Now that's a good laugh man
same
7:43 Gladd to see Si honouring the great Matt Stephens on the start line there
Miss the laughter..
damn i'm dying
AHAHAHAHAH ❤
2020: Can 3 GCN presenters beat Si on a TT bike?
2021: Can Team Jumbo Visma and Ineos combined beat Si on a TT bike?
Tuned in to this hahaha
@@MrAyley7 probably Wout alone would go sub 12... Ganna would probably finish before they started the clock 😂
2040: Can the whole Tour de France roster and GCN beat Si on a unicycle wearing a backpack that weighs 50 kilos and blindfolded in 40 degree celsius weather climbing up the steepest climb in the entire world whilst cooking up a feast for the entire royal family.
Or Filippo Ganna on a roadbike?
@@satorugojo6133 sounds like an easy thing for so to do
Next time, let’s give Si a disc back wheel, aero socks, and aerodynamic shoe covers. 😁
I agree :-) ... plus the Pray Mantis position
Or a recumbent bike
Why aero socks when you cover them with aero shoe covers anyway ?
and shaven legs
TT e-Bike.
Si actually went 7 seconds faster than his first effort, not 1 second. Quite significant! The results are:
2 vs 1
Si 12:55
CoNk (Conor and Hank) 13:40 seconds
3 vs 1
Si 12:48
AlCoNk 13:16
If he had wind blowing from back all the time it might be even faster. Is it means more effort...? Not exactly.
Thanks for the numbers mate, I wanted to know how much faster the team effort was from 2 to 3
To be fair, he only won because of Oli's pro TT advice: "Go full power the first 30 seconds and then just hold on"
Rumor has it that was also Bradley Wiggins' strategy for the hour record.
Ollie was trying to get Simon to gas out in the first minute 😆
That's pretty much what Merckx did for the hour record. Start off at a pace to beat the 5 km, 10km, and 20 km records and then finish out the hour.
That's how MTB races are done. He knows that Simon is an ex mountain biker, so he played on his MTB strength. 4D chess master.
Ollie was obviously giving him bad advice on purpose since Si took the KOM from him last time.
Si might not do much TTing but he does look good on the bike. Quality video as always.
His TT fit/position looks solid.
His shoulders and forearms could be higher. Get the head a bit lower and chin forward. Shrug the shoulders towards his ears.
Mind, it must be effective as it is...
I'd love to know what the average power of the each of the others and what sort of numbers they were pushing on the front. It'd really tell the story of how much difference the TT bike makes.
Same. They usually have a bit more analysis, or at least speculation to offer. Fun video, but disappointing in that respect.
@@TheDionysiac Pretty sure that is because for the both of the videos they were expecting Si to lose. In fact Si was never supposed to do it in the first place, they were going to get someone from GTN to do the TT section because they thought the two up road bikes would be far closer, or win, in the first place.
@@Alex-to8es But wasn't that just in the case of the first video? You'd think that after such a surprising result the first time that they'd try to get some numbers out of it in part 2. They even mentioned that Si had a power meter this time, so we know at least that the data was there.
Anyway not trying to nitpick, just kind of surprised. Maybe they're saving it for a GCN "does science" vid.
Agreed. The lack of power data in the first video was a major gaff, and now they only give us Si’s power data?
I think they’re avoiding power on purpose- probably a lot of cyclists are burned out on constant power analysis conversations. I think you can assume a 30 - 50 watt benifit from tt position - so you can assume the chain gang is probably doing 400 watt pulls to keep same pace as cy at 350 w. Not a negligible amount.
Next time - some "Guest GCN Presenters"* line up in the chain-gang....
* Filppo Ganna, Alex Dowset, Tom Dumoulin, & Rohan Dennis
as long as it's not at high elevation I guess!
It would be a great defeat racing against greats for Si with that lineup.
You can put Remco Evenepoel on that list about a half year.
The probably would not need to ride in a group. 😅 - Or in a group, but not on a race bike. 😜
strange pick. Alex Dowsett on a road bike. He's motivated as shit* e.g. and doing the hour record soon...
*for weird challenges
"Ok lads - 10km ride: no saddle bags! No front bag! Limited clothing!"
"But sure, we have to take our water bottles!"
Many frames are more aero with the bottles!
I mean yeah, it's necessary. I need water for my 5 km commute.
@@brauljo I've got T1D, so I'm always paying attention to my hydration
already can't wait for the peloton vs 1 vid.!!! well be waiting!!!
All they need is Manon. Oh and Ollie for moral support
Just Alex and Manon...
Ya, Manon probably could do that on her own. Blindfolded of course.
@@mimi_micha8815 and on the £50 bike from italy 😂
Ollie's moral support usually means people will fail...
If you can talk while riding, you're not pushing hard enough.
I guess that's off their B-role not the actual ride!
I was noticing that. Gums flapping are not aero. At least 4 watts at 35 kph!
ArhPos Not how pacing works, you'll only not be able to talk when you're deep in the red or nearing the end of a race
Unless you're sprinting if you can't talk while riding then you really need to work on your pacing as well as breathing technique.
Welcome to a new episode of "Sentences an old fart would say who was never good at anything but still nags about the performance of others."
They're never gonna hear the end of this
Hope so , i wish they made this 1 time a week like the gcn show
0:50 "...so we decided to rope in new tech presenter Alex, who's straight ..."
Me: What's that got to do with anything?
"...out of the pro-peloton." 😂
Hahahaha. got me also.
I was exactly the same lol
Si: All the latest aero technology... Apart from a razor
It would be soo interesting to see the powerdata of all 4 guys. Connor with his drag disadvantage..si with the TT Bike..etc..
Si enjoyed the recovery ride so much at 21kph that he had to go flat out to put Hank & Team to the sword once more. Phenomenal effort.
though Manon is a track TT expert would love to see her on the road on one..i have a feeling she will have a low 12’s on that same course😁
Would be great to know what she could do.
Oooof, what’s demoralising for the roadie group is Si still hasn’t even “pulled the pin” and used a rear disc/deeper wheel set or aero over socks yet.... reckon he’s got a low 12 minute in him
I just have this image of the country lanes of Bath being jammed with GCN presenters making videos
This série has to keep going, great entertainment value ! I love it
The paceline was just beautifull , wish that the video was real time instead of 3 minutes . Top 10 gcn video right here
Connor “We are going to teach Si a lesson he’ll never forget”.
Hmmmmmm......he’ll never forget alright!
great video! so much fun to watch and an absolute blockbuster in production. I cannot wait for the 4 vs. SI on the TT bike!
I love how the beeps from Matt are in this video. Really made me happy to hear. (I hope he's doing well.)
Funny, and cool video, GCN.
„Aero is life, everything“ ~Manon Lloyd
It looks like riding with Hank must be an absolute blast, the guys is a mentalist 😳 Like an excited puppy... an excited puppy doing 500 Watts 😂😂
Sounds like the dukes of hazard
Brilliant. Seeing the GCN riders in full flight is impressive but still funny as they are not afraid to show how hard they’re doing it. Surprising result
Absolutely fantastic video. Had so much fun watching this🙏🏻
Si-Borg is back to his best! Never doubted you.
Put Si in the gang and have Mark Threlfall ride the TT bike. GCN v GTN rematch.
Think that was the original plan with the first video, but after the surprising victory by Si they scrapped that plan. GCN has a much larger audience after all.
Ollie’s advice was awesome and from my experience watching time trials. Oddly accurate!
Another superb video..can't wait for the 4v1 !
In a few months it's going be a whole peloton made of all GCN riders Vs Simon
As I start this I have one question, will Si take another KOM from Ollie?
God willing 🙏
He cannot, he’s got them all ;-)
Plus Si already has his thing of getting cohosts in to CX only for them to quite! Sorry Si
Great video guys. It’s just the kind of fun stuff I was looking for on a Sunday morning with the shorties.
I've watched countless videos by GCN, some compelling, some less interesting but this one is among the best: a very good story arc, good choice of music and very efficient editing, all woven together with the renowned British sense of humor (humour). To be continued...
Thanks Michael, high praise indeed. We've got 4vs1 coming very soon ;)
Mates having fun!!! Ride to the level of your smile.
This is how you make bicycle documentary.. Top Gear Styles..
Look forward to your next competition. So much into this topic.
As always , GCN and the guys know how to make a really entertaining production. Well done for the efforts you put in trying to beat one man and his TT bike. I reckon 9 riders should pull you level but the short course is problem . Best of luck on the next one.
GCN literally finds the ONLY flat bit of the Cotswolds
Conor, James & Alex looked like a well tuned machine, made out of rocks! I think of the guys put in some time to ride as a team I think the time would be closer. But I like how Is looks like Judge Dredd in that helmet.
Great video guys ! I'm seriously waiting for this 23 road bikes vs 1 Time Trial bike challenge !
LOLOL. Love this! Really entertaining guys. Keep up the good work!
Coming soon: entire Tour de France vs Simon
Looks like you boys need to call in Chris Opie for the next one ☎️
Chris lives in the Cotswolds, doesn't he?
Chris along with Connor alone can take up the challenge I feel. Chris is a real powerhouse.
@@billinhouston3291 Chris as moved back down to Cornwall
@@thetimetraveller2414 Yeah, for a 12 minute effort, Chris would be a good choice.
Keep adding more riders!!! I was truly surprised by the TT vs 2 results.
I love these competitions team!! The commentary is extremely entertaining😂
Haha I was cheering for Si 👍
Great to see the outcome although I thought it would be closer.
Really interesting though and I think lots of applications exist in this regard such as super lightweight bike v aero up hill in windy environments.
351 watt ave, it's monster 😂
Lol that was absolutely entertaining. Good stuff lads!
That is amazing. Great vid series.
I will see how Olie is trying to get back his KOM on this segment.
I swear Hank is a 12 year old in a 28 year old's body
A boy in grovn body 🤣👍
So entertaining! Thank you GCN !
Keep on going guys. Great video
Si is the GCN TT King 😁
Add Manon in for the next event ???
The secret to time trial: Have you tried riding really fast?
This is excellent content. Keep it up. Loving this tt and Simon vs the rest of the world haha
Really enjoy these videos
Hank had his legs out (clearly a barrier) other two in leg warmers that's 0.5sec right there. You needed Manon!
The pro tip by Oli was great. First 30sec. Max. Watts. After that, max watts for the rest of the time.
Thanks Oli. :)
Looking forward to part 3!
Great video, keep doing races like this!
Hank picked the order so he'd be on Conor's wheel when they rolled turns 👌
Me: kinda makes me want to get a TT bike...
Me: HONEY?!
Wife: NO!!
That why I went for the TT bike first.
Have had that conversation a few times.
"But it's for the public good!"
"I am your WIFE. I am the greatest good you are ever gonna get!"
this series is the most exciting thing GCN has ever produced
Loving these vids!
Si could probably have gone faster with a deeper section rear wheel. His rims were almost the same as the road bikes.
Or a disc wheel.
Yeah, plus a more aero fit of the bike. His head was sticking up quite a bit.
Little dangerous on open road with traffics
@@alexyounghunlee Why is it more dangerous to run a deeper /disc wheel?? I'm new to cycling
@@CowneloAlvaroid if there's a cross wind then it can push the bike to one side pretty hard because there's more surface area
some math:
Si averaged 46,6 km/h
3 roadies 44,2km/h
2 roadies 43,4 km/h
if naively assuming adding 1 more roadie would each time increase their avg speed with 0,8km/h they would need 6 roadies to be just as quick as Si
Gotta be logarithmical, sorry. So only marginal gains for each rider added after 3. Your linear speed growth model would mean a peloton of 50 riders going at 81.8 km/h. On the adder hand, calculating the avg speed as a*ln(b*riders) you'd need 10 riders to match Si. Maybe try that, GCN?
I actually cracked up again when I heard the results.
Can’t wait for the next one!
Ah mate! What an entertaining video! Lookibg forward for the additional presenter haha!
You should try and get Team Sky to come down and count it as a training ride, then you could do a segment on GCN Race Pass with them after
Wait for Manon, and get her on board. Or, also for fun, get Manon on the TT bike, to have a second perspective...
Yes, 4 on 1 on Manon Brazzers style. I'm Donald J Trump and I approve this message.
Grow up, dude. A track cyclist, on a TT bike, and flat roads? She would destroy them all...
Brilliant my favourite over the last few weeks, Simon you beast
Liked the last 2 vs 1 challenge, loved this. Well done Si.
We need to go deeper! Two TT riders vs 5 roadbike riders!
Btw those are some nice close-ups, are you sure motorpaceing isn't throwing off the result?
I was wondering the same thing.
Defeats the purpose..
I’d like to see Si on his Canyon road bike with aero kit do the same challenge, he’s quick, can he show the guys up on a roadie?
Great video. Please keep it up!
Incredible result! I wondered about the traffic having an influence possibly, slowing down, losing momentum, etc. You'll have to close the roads for the next one!
At this rate. GCN it going to have to rope in GMBN and GTN as well as every GCN presenter to beat Si.
Could you compare the watts ? So it is more meaningful.
You guys are Legends! Fun video.
Haha Love it! Thank you guys! Cant wait to see that next video ;)
Next time: Si versus the whole Tour De France peloton
Can you include everyone's power data next time you do something like this, so it's at least a little bit meaningful?
Quality.. love it !!
Wonder if Conor, James and Alex could go quicker if they planned for one to finish i.e. they didn't rotate, but had Conor go full gas for 4-5mins then dropped off (since Conor has a CDA of a HGV). Once Conor peels off, Alex goes full gas whilst James holds the wheel for 4-5mins and then Alex drops off. Leaving James to go the last 3 mins alone. Would this be quicker? Think it deserves another effort guys. Matt
Does this say more about drafting , a tt bike and position or how fit Simon is ?
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Another awesome performance Si!! 👏🏼
Love this series. You should do again with more riders
Meybe it's not tt position, meybe it's just Simon?
Naaah, just kidding XD
The winner was the one who got the best draft behind the camera truck.
It was a motorbike not a truck, the shadow on the end shows it! :)
This was awesome!!!
class video and good banter