I Measured The World's First Publicised MLA OLED TV! (Panasonic MZ2000)

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Komentáře • 482

  • @Hotobu
    @Hotobu Před rokem +155

    The worst thing about the new year is not getting to hear Vincent say "2022" as much.

  • @gamingmarcus
    @gamingmarcus Před rokem +127

    I'm happy to see brightness improvements beyond the 10% window size as well.

    • @KizaruB
      @KizaruB Před rokem +13

      The colors also looked brighter, which is nice and important for WOLED

  • @spitalul2bad
    @spitalul2bad Před rokem +179

    No content for a month -- now Vincent is making me remember all about TVs.

  • @camarykaren
    @camarykaren Před rokem +124

    Love how Panasonic always stay true to the directors intent and not the latest fad. Thanks Vincent as always for your honest hard work ,much appreciated.

    • @thatchinaboi1
      @thatchinaboi1 Před rokem +14

      Love how Panasonic isn't available to the US Market. 🤣

    • @stealthis
      @stealthis Před rokem +10

      The directors intent is overrated. This is why there are picture modes. You can have an accurate mode and I can have a mode with a little bit more pop! They can both exist (that being said, let's not have any ugly hue shifts, shall we?).
      Only 2 things are the most important: you like what you're seeing and there is some preservation of the general tonality

    • @ThePipojp
      @ThePipojp Před rokem +3

      Most games and lots of movies out there are terribly mastered for HDR, so not always a good thing

    • @atom608
      @atom608 Před rokem

      @@stealthis I agree, yes the panasonic colors do look more true to directors intent but as someone thats not a crazy AV expert I would prefer slightly more pop of an LG, that being said I cant stand on default color modes while watching tv on an LG they oversaturate skin tones so people look orange its offputting but on the over hand that over saturation looks amazing if you are watching "Our planet" at 4K HDR. so I do agree different color modes 100% have their place

    • @SaithusX
      @SaithusX Před rokem +2

      Directors intent...lol I adjust to what I like. My money. My damn intent!

  • @JesusMartinez-mk6fc
    @JesusMartinez-mk6fc Před rokem +16

    WOW! What a surprise Vincent. From the video title, I was expecting this first measured MLA TV to be an LG.I love Panasonic TVs, too bad they're not selling them in the North American market.

  • @gigachad1906
    @gigachad1906 Před rokem +49

    Those are some insane improvements. Might consider a new Tv this year

    • @Roe777
      @Roe777 Před rokem +15

      Yep, after Samsung introduced QD-Oled last year it was obvious this year would be very competitive. Can't wait to see new reviews from all brands

    • @WillzMaster85
      @WillzMaster85 Před rokem +7

      yea, i think its time to put my CX on the backburner this year.... this year upgrades seem worth it. Holiday season is going to be very competitive for these manufacturers

    • @bigben9056
      @bigben9056 Před rokem +2

      i will not upgrade untill they make tvs with higher motion resolution or my oled gets broken

  • @TheJimmy80808
    @TheJimmy80808 Před rokem +15

    Good to see Panasonic still got it. They have been working hard on improving brightness for a number of generations of OLED and their colour and motion processing has always been top rank. If they had the latest mediatek SoC and used the google TV interface they would be winning all the prizes if cost isn’t a factor.

  • @3DavidA12
    @3DavidA12 Před rokem +34

    This is what I was waiting for. Need those measurements. Hopefully the LG is the same.

    • @Raven1180
      @Raven1180 Před rokem

      Same I held off to see what we will get in improvements

  • @dcaseng
    @dcaseng Před rokem +7

    The best part of this technology is that it is fairly simple, and doesn't require any additional electronics.
    It's just magnifying and focusing the light using a special array of lenses.
    You can't get more efficient than that.

  • @Cuzin_Ken
    @Cuzin_Ken Před rokem +4

    This is hands down the best HDTV testing and reporting channel on YT. However, I have to make sure I'm wide awake before I watch. Your voice is so soothing, it relaxes me to the point of dozing off. And I mean this in the best possible way! Cheers and keep up the great work!

  • @iamdmc
    @iamdmc Před rokem +13

    1500 nits on Panasonic at launch = 1500 nits 1 year after you buy
    1500 nits on Samsung QD OLED at launch = 1000 nits within 6 months after mandatory pushed firmware updates, which also break HDR

    • @sneikiusas
      @sneikiusas Před rokem +2

      dont get updates :D Im still running an old firmware and getting 1500 nits :D

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB Před rokem +15

    I wish Panasonic sold their TVs in America. Their processing sounds impressive.

  • @rohanchooramun7288
    @rohanchooramun7288 Před rokem +9

    1500 nits for an OLED is outstanding. They really need to improve 50% and above window size especially 100% window size.

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 Před rokem

      Improve somewhat but nobody would appreciate to be blasted full screen with 1000 nits - it would blind you for a moment.

  • @grimdicer152
    @grimdicer152 Před rokem +11

    That intro was gold 😂

  • @Intelligenz_Bestie
    @Intelligenz_Bestie Před rokem +6

    whats great about micro-lens arrays is that like heatsinks there is nothing keeping samsung from adding their own MLA layer on top of QD-OLED panels in the not so distant future

    • @putyograsseson
      @putyograsseson Před rokem

      that sounds nuts!

    • @carlosr.2027
      @carlosr.2027 Před rokem

      Wow dam how soon is the distance future I want one lol

    • @bigben9056
      @bigben9056 Před rokem

      Qd oleds have some problems that i cant stand.i returned my,and not only i

    • @carlosr.2027
      @carlosr.2027 Před rokem +1

      @@bigben9056 wow what are the problems with qd-Oled please tell ?

  • @seanmf202
    @seanmf202 Před rokem +4

    Thank you Vincent for your professionalism

  • @jdancouga
    @jdancouga Před rokem +6

    I really wanted to watch the video of how MLA works and try to click on the link immediately without reading the link label. Can't wait for your next video.

  • @zenyu94
    @zenyu94 Před rokem +20

    I'm hoping the reason Sony didn't reveal any TVs in CES this year is because they are sorting out any issues with the Pentonic chip.... will be a bummer if the reveal comes later with the same old chip and ports

    • @Oczko2171
      @Oczko2171 Před rokem +7

      Wait what? There is no Sony in CES ? WHAT?!?!?

    • @Essydyk
      @Essydyk Před rokem +9

      @@Oczko2171 No announcements - they will announce their 2023 at their own events.

    • @zenyu94
      @zenyu94 Před rokem +4

      @@Oczko2171 Sony will be present, but there won't be any TV related announcements

    • @loki76
      @loki76 Před rokem +1

      Their conference is tonight at 8pm EST. They better have the Pentonic SoC or they might as well just call it quits. It's beyond a joke to still have the old MediaTek again.
      Especially since the "8K" version of Pentonic exist and have been for a while. They should then just use that and limit the 8K part on 4K TVs. I mean they would still need it for the Z series TVs. I happily pay another $100 if I know they have a Pentonic.

    • @PSYCHOV3N0M
      @PSYCHOV3N0M Před rokem +4

      @@loki76 "or they might as well just call it quits"
      Stop being dramatic. 😂

  • @sirdan357
    @sirdan357 Před rokem +16

    After seeing all the new sets I don't regret buying last year. It looks like extra brightness is the main thing over last year and I don't even use my S95B at it's fullest brightness capabilities being in a light controlled room.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před rokem

      I always keep my A80J at max brightness for HDR and Dolby Vision but SDR bring it down

    • @CaliJatt0809
      @CaliJatt0809 Před rokem +4

      Yeah everyone is focused on brightness and I'm over here thinking my TV is too bright on certain settings where I have to tone it down because my eyes start hurting. 🤷‍♂️

  • @randomdriver
    @randomdriver Před rokem +22

    Seems like a significant upgrade for previous model. I hope they will have 77 inch model too. That would be something to consider for

    • @CreatorsHand
      @CreatorsHand Před rokem +10

      55, 65, and 77 inch will have MLA! 83 will not.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel Před rokem

      How much does this increase cost? 50%, 100% or more?
      If TV without cost $4000 at 65" size, it this $6000 or $8000 or more?

    • @klosti
      @klosti Před rokem +3

      The press release states that only 55 and 65 will get MLA the MZ2000 in 77 inch not 😢 . Maybe LG has reserved big screen MLA for G series only.

    • @theblackswordsman9951
      @theblackswordsman9951 Před rokem +5

      @@klosti Most likely reserved it for their own, which is shitty, but it's their panel so 🤷‍♂

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před rokem +2

      I see you prefer them large. *DING*

  • @clajje8889
    @clajje8889 Před rokem +20

    @2:52 The MZ2000 looked very grey in the blackbars compared to the LZ2000, similar to S95b when hit by ambient light. Is this a flaw of MLA perhaps? Of did LG remove the polarizer?

    • @xm3405
      @xm3405 Před rokem +10

      its cos of MLA microbeads reflecting light

    • @JJ008
      @JJ008 Před rokem +12

      This is an unacceptable side effect of MLA.

    • @clajje8889
      @clajje8889 Před rokem +6

      @@JJ008 Yeah doesnt seem so good when you take this into account.

    • @Chikolad
      @Chikolad Před rokem +7

      Holy crap you're right, that looks really bad

    • @danielsimms4262
      @danielsimms4262 Před 6 měsíci

      So what's the point in getting a OLED if you don't get inky blacks? And why is hardly anyone talking about this issue? This includes Vincent. Why not get a LCD if one of the big advantages of OLED is gone? What a joke.

  • @waterwulf
    @waterwulf Před rokem +22

    Hmm. All I ask is qd oled with Dolby vision and up to date gaming features which doesn’t cost 1k more than it’s worth. Still here with my C9 waiting for a worthwhile set to upgrade. The MLA looks great. It certainly solves the brightness issue. I still don’t see how it contends with QD oled though. The inherent problem of relying on the white subpixel is a hard ceiling on colour volume. The Sony A95k is the closest I’ve seen to what I want in a tv. I was hoping this year to see something close to that, that isn’t asking a ridiculous price tag.

    • @tac6044
      @tac6044 Před rokem +20

      Be happy with what you have. There is no need to move on from your c9 for several more years yet unless you just want to throw money away. Get some more use out of it, it is and will be a great tv for years to come. I'm keeping my a80k for many years. Kept my last plasma for 9 years and was happy with it every day.

    • @C--A
      @C--A Před rokem +6

      Waterwulf You do realise only a handful of 4K blu rays effectively use the full Rec2020 colour volume. The majority of 4K blu rays were/are mastered with a colour volume normal OLED LG, Panasonic, Philips etc matches or exceeds.
      87%+ Rec2020 colour volume from Samsung Display is impressive but the film studios aren't mastering the films (bar one or two) on 4K blu ray discs to take full advantage of it!
      Panasonic LZ2000 won best Home Cinema TV in the HDTVtest Blind shootout 2022 ahead of the Sony A95K. Also won best Home Cinema TV in Avforums 2022 Awards.

    • @jubayerwasidraiyan5874
      @jubayerwasidraiyan5874 Před rokem +1

      I'd say you should go for the C3 or the C2, the A95k is just way too expensive for what it is. I understand it's great but it should be 200-300 dollars more expensive at best. The prices of the LG and Samsung TVs come down a lot as well so there's that.

    • @brokenwrench404
      @brokenwrench404 Před rokem +1

      @@tac6044 exactly! I’m still happy with my C8 with over 16k hours on it

    • @bambus0404
      @bambus0404 Před rokem +1

      @@tac6044 still has my Panasonic vt60 and very satisfied. It has this natural, pleasant colors, especially on faces, that I feel many of todays tvs cant match. They are bright as hell, but it still looks digital

  • @katinkaenglish6895
    @katinkaenglish6895 Před rokem +3

    I can only hope the new MLA LG tech gives the QD-OLED a run for its money because that will mean better competition and hopefully better prices for the consumer. Now I'll keep my fingers crossed that Panasonic comes back to North America.

  • @boedilllard5952
    @boedilllard5952 Před rokem +19

    I'm thrilled they are working on brightness but I'd consider motion improvement nearly as important. LG and Samsung have a ways to go to catch up to Sony IMHO. I realize many people don't notice motion quality even when trying to see it but for some of us it is extremely important.

    • @trignite
      @trignite Před rokem +9

      what do you mean by motion.. if your talking about motion interpolation then that is just shitty processing people use to make things appear smoother and it creates fake frames. I cant stand it.

    • @robertbash380
      @robertbash380 Před rokem +1

      Panasonic is very good if you dial in the settings right.

    • @boedilllard5952
      @boedilllard5952 Před rokem +2

      @@trignite I'm talking about anything that helps the transition of movement on a a screen - black frame insertion, soap opera effect, refresh rate, pixel transition rate, ghosting, stutter - etc. Sony does it pretty well. LG and Samsung still look like a badly filmed rave party.

    • @JJ008
      @JJ008 Před rokem +3

      @@trignite I agree with you. A good monitor should be garbage in and garbage out. Any compensation is redundant and over-adjusted.

    • @boedilllard5952
      @boedilllard5952 Před rokem

      @@robertbash380 I've never seen a Panasonic OLED in the US.

  • @henrywinters9496
    @henrywinters9496 Před rokem +15

    That MZ2000 reveal was so hype. Although it doesn't matter to me, Panasonic need to make their TVs more attractive by improving their Home Screen and by bringing back the premium remote.

    • @marselluswallace8129
      @marselluswallace8129 Před rokem +4

      In my opinion the Home Screen is perfect!
      The remote is still much better than others like from LG, Samsung or Sony.
      But yes, the "old" aluminium Remote feels better.

    • @Petteriks
      @Petteriks Před rokem +1

      And improving the stand aesthetics.. That matters quite a bit to many.
      LGs wide stands look great and Sonys "two legs" on the sides.
      A small thing but competition is tough

    • @henrywinters9496
      @henrywinters9496 Před rokem

      @@Petteriks true

    • @marselluswallace8129
      @marselluswallace8129 Před rokem +2

      @@Petteriks the solution is called: wall mount 😉
      i.postimg.cc/6Q77tmh7/20220930-172637.jpg

    • @Da-iken
      @Da-iken Před rokem +3

      Better have a clean and stable OS than a overloaded and buggy OS...

  • @Sonickrunch
    @Sonickrunch Před rokem +2

    Wish these Panasonics were sold in my country, but good to see MLA improving to hopefully show up in 2024 in C4

    • @bigben9056
      @bigben9056 Před rokem

      What's the problem in today times

  • @TheCrazeturk
    @TheCrazeturk Před rokem +9

    The MediaTek curse still hasn’t been lifted…

  • @georgejones5019
    @georgejones5019 Před rokem +3

    Dang. I didn't expect the R&D of OLED to take off like this. I'm guessing the issue is that deuterium is costly and limited for QD-OLEDs. So they're trying to find alternative methods to get better brightness and longevity while keeping the costs down.

  • @techsamurai11
    @techsamurai11 Před rokem +1

    The MLA technology is reminiscent of how a diamond reflects more light outward. It’s a crazy technology when you think of the number of lenses per pixel.

  • @gnovincejr2
    @gnovincejr2 Před rokem +1

    Wow...keep spitting out these videos...feel like I'm in an endless loop of AWESOMENESS!!!

  • @bournechupacabra
    @bournechupacabra Před rokem +9

    I'm really interested to see how MLA actually improves viewing angles. I would have though the opposite

    • @FrowningTaco
      @FrowningTaco Před rokem +1

      Yeah I'm a bit confused on how focusing the light that the pixels produce would increase viewing angle?

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel Před rokem +2

      @@FrowningTaco
      It only is brighter in the sharp angle because overall brightness is up, we don´t know if the picture itself is better or worse...

  • @GrimeyJr
    @GrimeyJr Před rokem +2

    Just when I was getting into OLED, Panasonic pulled out of the Australian market.

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 Před rokem +9

    Not gonna lie it's actually noticeable this time.

    • @FrowningTaco
      @FrowningTaco Před rokem

      This versus a CX/C1/C2/ would be huge.

  • @Time-Travelling-Lesbian
    @Time-Travelling-Lesbian Před rokem +2

    why does the newer one look washed out at 2:44

  • @FrowningTaco
    @FrowningTaco Před rokem +18

    Ok... I get that dark colour under saturation in low light scenes is a problem for QD Oled. However, doesn't WRGB have the problem of flashing in dark scenes due to the white subpixel being slow to transition? So it's more of a pick your poison decision by Panasonic isn't it? Unless this MLA W-Oled solves the flashing in dark scenes which is exascerbated the lower quality the source/bit rate?

    • @henrywinters9496
      @henrywinters9496 Před rokem +6

      Yeah exactly, still the problem of LG panels' uniformity lottery and white overshoot

    • @FrowningTaco
      @FrowningTaco Před rokem +1

      @@henrywinters9496 Also, I have to imagine the QD-Oled panels are cheaper to buy from Samsung Display than LG Display's MLA

    • @henrywinters9496
      @henrywinters9496 Před rokem +5

      @@FrowningTaco Oh for sure, I mean the S95C trades blows with it in brightness while not even using a heatsink.

  • @0perativeX
    @0perativeX Před rokem +8

    But Vincent, why would i want to melt my eyeballs in their sockets when my C2 OLED is bright enough already?

    • @westview9917
      @westview9917 Před rokem +1

      No problem, just wear a welding mask!

    • @je19921
      @je19921 Před rokem +2

      wondering the same lol. I have a old and crappy LG B9 and sometimes at night I reduce luminance when too tired as it hurts my eyes in SDR...

    • @adamek9750
      @adamek9750 Před rokem +6

      More accurate hdr

    • @soulshot96
      @soulshot96 Před rokem +1

      Go outside for once and you'll realize how dim your C2 is lol.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Před rokem +1

      yeah i thought at first "hey, brightness is getting significantly better, maybe i'll upgrade in a couple years". then i remembered i use my tv at 20% brightness most of the time. i have very little interest in peak brightness, but average picture level could be a little better. this still isn't there yet. also i'll only upgrade if either my lg c1 goes bad, or if it's 4 years old and there's something that supports 240hz+ in 4k. for now theres no reason

  • @radekoncar2404
    @radekoncar2404 Před rokem +1

    Watching online OLED cultists scratching their heads and struggling to explain why every OLED manufacturer is racing to pump out more nits and why reviewers are impressed, when "its infinite contrast bro, u dont need more than 69 nits because its infinite contrast dude" is kind of satisfying, got to admit.

  • @TheEclectic
    @TheEclectic Před rokem +1

    This is why I waited. If we can just get an 83 inch with MLA, I'm all in. Thanks Vincent!

    • @epap1375
      @epap1375 Před rokem +1

      I don’t think the 83 or 97 version are going to be getting the MLA. I read it’s limited to the 55, 65, and 77’s

    • @mohammedfaiisal
      @mohammedfaiisal Před 9 měsíci

      I'm just wondering if the MLA technology increases risk of burn in

  • @hamsterbrigade
    @hamsterbrigade Před rokem +1

    It's just funny to me after years of telling us OLED was bright enough, when we all knew that wasn't true, now it's look, our panels are brighter.

  • @teekanne15
    @teekanne15 Před rokem +3

    Having bought the g2 for my in-laws for christmas i am happy to see that the difference to me is negligible. But lack of brightness in some scenarios was indeed the biggest flaw in the g2 i could make out. curious what will happen in the next 2-3 years

  • @petergriffin5256
    @petergriffin5256 Před rokem +9

    I'm so excited to see this new 1500 nits tv vs samsungs new qd-oleds 1300 nits tv in terms of color luminance, motion etc. 🥰

  • @markcary8165
    @markcary8165 Před rokem +2

    All looked great...... right upto the point of the panel looking grey in ambient light. Argh!!

  • @Truth-Justice-Freedom
    @Truth-Justice-Freedom Před rokem +1

    You need to compare the new MLA oled to the best of 2022 aka QD-oled (S95B n a95k) please! I believe this is what we have been waiting for!!

  • @Johnnyrebox
    @Johnnyrebox Před rokem +2

    Hopefully Panasonic put more effort in improving motion this year with BFI...

  • @RealLifeTech187
    @RealLifeTech187 Před rokem +1

    To my knowledge Philips' OLED+986 and OLED+936 used MLA in 2021 already but they've dropped it in favor of a heat sink in 2022

  • @thegoodsherman
    @thegoodsherman Před rokem +1

    The Blacks/black Bars Looks grey in some moments on the mz2000🧐🤦

  • @semigene
    @semigene Před rokem +1

    Brightness uniformity looks worse: brighter at center. Vincent can you confirm?

  • @beadlesastout
    @beadlesastout Před rokem +1

    Most people just want the price of TV's to come down quicker once technology has been out so long. Especially with gaming functions.

  • @turrican4d599
    @turrican4d599 Před rokem +1

    7:37 Meaning? Will it will be implemented further down the road or will we have to suffer that bad chipset, introduced in 2021?

  • @PlayNeth
    @PlayNeth Před rokem +9

    Are there any news on Laser Phosphor Displays, Vincent? It's legit the display tech I'm looking forward the most since it's basically a proper CRT successor but it's so hard to find anything on it

    • @TheAntira
      @TheAntira Před rokem +1

      isnt that the technology prysm uses? in that case 4k with 300-500nits and 80% dcip doesnt sound enticing at all, even if you ignore the 30" depth, 130" minimal size or weight of 1 ton.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před rokem +1

      @@TheAntira that just sounds like late triniton CRT's in terms of specs. Maybe a bit mroe colour

    • @PlayNeth
      @PlayNeth Před rokem +1

      @@TheAntira From what I read, their LPDs are basically modular, which means you buy a tile and tile them up to the resolution and size that you want, with a single tile being 15 inches and having the resolution of 320x240.
      I believe this is going to be the ultimate display technology for monitors, they are basically just crts on steroids, which means they have no input lag, no native resolution and the rest of the pluses without the downsides, hence why I'm looking so forward to it

  • @alexanderkenway
    @alexanderkenway Před rokem +2

    Man why did Panasonic leave the NA market

  • @marksalamon619
    @marksalamon619 Před rokem +1

    I realize I'm complaining about a "first-world problem", but I keep wishing that Panasonic would start selling their TVs in the United States again. Value Electronics was able to offer a small number of Panasonic TVs for sale from their store in New York last year, so maybe I'll get lucky someday and purchase one of those rare models. They're almost as scarce as unicorns on this side of the planet.

  • @tac6044
    @tac6044 Před rokem +4

    That was a shout out to you Samsung QD OLED!

  • @dannykl6883
    @dannykl6883 Před rokem +1

    I just bought the Surfshark VPN, went to install it and find out my LG OLED doesn’t support VPN neither does my TalkTalk router .. great! 👍😆

  • @LIMuscleBlackdevil
    @LIMuscleBlackdevil Před rokem +1

    I miss Panasonic in the U.S. They stopped selling a lot of products over here for some reason.

  • @tarekz9992
    @tarekz9992 Před rokem +1

    Why won't they release this in the USA?!
    It won't be much effort to do so, the TV already developed

  • @nyquil07na38
    @nyquil07na38 Před rokem +3

    Leap year for OLED tech this year. May have to upgrade.

  • @PenPineappleApplePen007
    @PenPineappleApplePen007 Před rokem +1

    Peak brightness of LG G3 is 600+ more than Panasonic MZ 2000. But how do the picture quality look side-by-side? LG's TV most likely needs calibration, has less hdr options and maybe not as good sound as Panasonic. I would really like to see a comparison between the two of them for sound, movies and gaming.

  • @darthbroda
    @darthbroda Před rokem +3

    how did colour luminance compare to your latest QD-OLED measurements?

  • @lukasmurmann625
    @lukasmurmann625 Před rokem +4

    I actually don't care as much about peak brightness than I do about APL. So this is very good news just for that reason

  • @Nelthalin
    @Nelthalin Před rokem +16

    MLA looks very impressive! outclassing Samsung in small window Sizes. But full field the second gen QD OLED's are even better around 250nits.
    I hope LG will find a way to boost the brightness RGB pixels to increase color volume more. without relying on the White Pixel so much for high brightness.
    I do wonder if the color of the screen when light hits it is due to the MLA technology. Because i dont like those color tints. Thats why i still steer away from QD OLED's until they can improve on that. When you work in a well lit room it can be distracting when dark content is displayed.

    • @xm3405
      @xm3405 Před rokem +5

      Its the microbeads in MLA reflecting light

    • @C--A
      @C--A Před rokem +2

      Colour volume isn't really a issue at the moment because the majority of 4K blu ray movie discs aren't mastered to use the increased Rec2020 colour volume of QD-OLED tv's Sony A95K, Samsung S95B.
      That's why only in the occasional scene of certain 4K blu rays the colours look better on the Sony A95K and Samsung S95B. Most 4K blu rays you wouldn't notice much difference in colours between OLEDs and QD-OLEDs.

    • @lightstorm6652
      @lightstorm6652 Před rokem +1

      MLA is 1514 nits vs 2000 nits of 2gen QD OLED on 10% window or am i missing something, so your Statement would be false?
      Edit: nevermind 2000 nits was on 3% window

    • @he.lena21
      @he.lena21 Před rokem +8

      @@lightstorm6652 and 10000K white point...

    • @blueversace4447
      @blueversace4447 Před rokem +7

      @@lightstorm6652 MLA is 1500 nits calibrated and S95C is 1300 nits calibrated. Both 2000+ nits uncalibrated. Samsung with richer color obviously though

  • @superpwnageable
    @superpwnageable Před rokem +2

    What about per colour brightness measurements ? Red , Green , Blue , Cyan , Magenta and Yellow ? Not showing it means QD-OLED beats it by default

    • @bigben9056
      @bigben9056 Před rokem

      Its not that important,you barely will see it in normal content

  • @444chroma
    @444chroma Před rokem +1

    The MZ2000 looks fantastic. Any idea what sizes it will come in? Hope you enjoyed your time visiting Osaka

  • @superbn0va
    @superbn0va Před rokem +1

    I wish to see more english spoken videos about one of (if not) the best oled brand outhere. Like, how is gaming on a Panasonic tv compared to LG? How is the last gen model compared to the next gen model (JZ2k vs LZ2k) for example. How many resolutions do Panasonic tv’s support (480p?) all these obscure details are very hard to find

  • @klosti
    @klosti Před rokem +1

    At least I hoping for a true successor of the LZ2000 in 77 inch is pretty much disappointed. No MLA (only for 55/65) and still old Mediathek. I guess getting a good deal for the 2022 LZ series is probably best choice. But at least in 77 I can’t see Panasonic competing with the 2023 models like a S95c, G3 or potentially a Sony / Philips on a second gen QD OLED. Especially looking at the premium price the 77 inch model will have a tough year this time. Again that’s for 77 in 65 the world looks slightly different.

  • @jefffan171
    @jefffan171 Před rokem

    Hats off to Panasonic still class leaders in picture performance 👏

  • @bilvah2914
    @bilvah2914 Před rokem +2

    MZ2000 vs Sony’s second gen QD OLED model cannot come quick enough

    • @fawkkyutuu8851
      @fawkkyutuu8851 Před rokem

      Until Panasonic makes QD-OLED It's no contest , evryone should know A95L will wipe the floor with everything
      that's why Sony's showing It last and getting It ready , the only problem as always will be price.

    • @bilvah2914
      @bilvah2914 Před rokem

      @@fawkkyutuu8851 yes but actually no . For most consumers , white sub pixel dilution and panel uniformity aren’t that big of an issue - as long as the latter is half decent . That’s not to mention that Panasonic and Sony have two different philosophies - panny focuses solely on accuracy whereas Sony focuses on a good Balance between accuracy , realism and vividness . Meaning there’s a whole bunch of subjectiveness
      And as the past two year have shown - no tv brand is perfect . Even with the new mediatek chipset Sony is likely to be behind on gaming features . Google tv is much more glitchy than reviewers mention - not to mention the dreadful storage space on google tv . Sony have also been very conservative with their brightness and that doesn’t seem like it will change unless they announce two QD OLED models . So no the A95L will not be perfect and I say that as someone who’s leaning towards purchasing the A95L as I’m quite happy with my X95J even tho some of its flaws drive me crazy sometimes

  • @curtisbme
    @curtisbme Před rokem +3

    I have a solution for the ideal OLED HDR image: They need to make a 850" TV so we can just watch the center 85" with full brightness. 🙂

  • @paulmitchell4544
    @paulmitchell4544 Před rokem +9

    I was getting excited until the Media tech chipset was mentioned. So the same will apply for Sony as well as Panasonic 😔. Unless I hold off buying for another year then its a choice between LG or Samsung. I shall wait patiently for a 77" Samsung OLED unboxing and see if they bend like last years models 🥺

    • @S1mmz
      @S1mmz Před rokem +7

      It's probably the reason Sony hasn't announced any TVs at CES this year, they are mostly waiting on the new SOC plus the fact their qd-oled was delayed. More likely to see their new ones come at the end of the year or possibly early 2024 instead.

  • @RealLifeTech187
    @RealLifeTech187 Před rokem +3

    Really great TV and definitely a contender for TV of the year but the OS makes it unusable without a streamer connected 😕

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před rokem +4

      Yea that Interface is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. And why does it only run at 30 fps?

    • @stevenswall
      @stevenswall Před rokem

      All TVs should purposefully bust their damn software and just accept input and display it perfectly.
      Devices like the Apple TV should do upscaling and processing.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před rokem +2

      @@stevenswall eh they should just allow users to program or install their own software. I enjoy not having to waste money on streaming boxes

  • @scofozo
    @scofozo Před rokem

    so cool you got the opportunity to do this!

  • @digitaltactics9234
    @digitaltactics9234 Před rokem

    Best timed transition over here.

  • @dank_fx
    @dank_fx Před rokem

    Every time I think I'm going to buy a new Tv and get ready for Prices to drop, the next years TV tech is so much better.

  • @AzzaBro59
    @AzzaBro59 Před rokem +1

    So the new panasonic with mla looks like a led lcd tv due to the raised blacks making it a useless oled tv. Oled is about that beautiful contrast and blacks. If the g3 from lg with mla also has the saim raised blacks I cam go back to my original mindset of the qd oled version 2 being the only and best option this year after sansung has fixed their raised blacks for 2023. But lg has not. Maby lg also took off the poloriz off too or the lma is reflecting light the worng way when introduced from outside the room.
    The biggest thing I would miss in my c9 is the lg magic wii style remote and the current picture settings I have remembered by heart and the clear picture setting. Samsung's remote had no input button and it's just a laggy experience.

  • @goobydntfear
    @goobydntfear Před rokem +1

    i cant believe turning off tonemapping on the tv is a new feature, how isnt this standard or an update to software for older tvs aswell, its mind boggling slow and incompetent TV software develoopment seems, i just cant believe it

  • @MikeTarlton
    @MikeTarlton Před rokem +1

    Shots fired at Samsung for not following creative intent for image reproduction.😆

  • @derekdauzat
    @derekdauzat Před rokem +1

    just bought a C2 42-in but as I understand this is only for 55 and up MLA oh well I got a good deal @$800

  • @tonyhart818
    @tonyhart818 Před rokem

    I learn so much from this channel... THANKS!!

  • @StrangerHappened
    @StrangerHappened Před rokem +1

    *WHEN those MLA OLED panels will appear in displays?*
    I want a 36" monitor with it.

  • @marosmikolaj4894
    @marosmikolaj4894 Před rokem +1

    It was a pre-production sample or final product ? Because the black filter has been replaced and the colors in the lit room look washed out compared to the previous model.

  • @lonniefarmer7067
    @lonniefarmer7067 Před rokem

    Across the pond we just get to watch the spectacle but are unable to buy. Thanks!

  • @mrantonelski
    @mrantonelski Před rokem +1

    Is possible to switch off the “luminance control logo”? With my GZ1000 I can only set it to “min” and it produces an annoying dimming effect, to me is totally unusable for gaming. On LG oleds you can switch that control off, I hope finally Panasonic let us do the same, or even better would be if they find a way to dim only the zone where the static logo is displayed and not all the screen.

  • @galactus1111
    @galactus1111 Před rokem

    Glad to know that when im in the market for a new oled it will likely be double the brightness of my current one.

  • @EDUB9X3
    @EDUB9X3 Před rokem

    Thanks for the insight man and for the upcoming video.

  • @beanis8624
    @beanis8624 Před rokem +1

    Why doesn't Panasonic sell in the US?

  • @seogabonotjah6555
    @seogabonotjah6555 Před rokem

    oh i think it comes with pentonic 1000, shame . but panasonic did a good job to pushed out of limit of the limiation proc.

  • @Burgergio
    @Burgergio Před rokem +1

    Panasonic is great, but we don’t have them available in the U.S. so the best we can hope for is Sony or LG.

  • @francisburlaud6954
    @francisburlaud6954 Před rokem +1

    Once again, great work. What about uniformity of the screen ?

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Před rokem

      The shape is not the most important asset. *ding* 🛎

    • @francisburlaud6954
      @francisburlaud6954 Před rokem

      @@wile123456 if you can t see the image because of vignetting or pink bubble, it doesn t make sens.

  • @SturmAH
    @SturmAH Před rokem

    Very interesting! Soinds like I'll get a new TV this year!

  • @OscarLopez-rn6tu
    @OscarLopez-rn6tu Před rokem +2

    Elevated blacks with ambient light in the new WRGB MLA panel?as in the QD-OLED panels?Has LG Display (or Panasonic) “copied” Samsung and removed the polarizer? In that case it would explain part of brightness gain.. but at what cost? “Gray” blacks in rooms with normal lights is unacceptable imo..

    • @xm3405
      @xm3405 Před rokem +1

      its not cos of polarizer it's because the MLA beads are messing with ambient light.

  • @Misiek1992
    @Misiek1992 Před rokem +1

    Great job Vincent👌🏻

    • @C--A
      @C--A Před rokem

      Hear hear 👏🏾👌🏾

  • @emerjay348
    @emerjay348 Před rokem

    It should massively reduce burn in effect of oleds if it is used as such advantage to relay brightness on LEDs.

  • @ashishpatel350
    @ashishpatel350 Před rokem +1

    Love more innovation on oled.

  • @Investor9872
    @Investor9872 Před rokem

    Come on Panasonic! Please bring the Panasonic MZ2000 over to the US already.

  • @eliotcole
    @eliotcole Před rokem

    Awesome stuff, but I can't believe the need to jump through hoops to be ready for CES (whether they're there or not) meant not using the new mediatek chipset. 😞

  • @florinloghin9525
    @florinloghin9525 Před rokem +2

    Let me guess, LG has removed the polarizer filter in order to help with the brightness increase, as Samsung did, that is why the new MLA panel has elevated black levels with light sources in the room, compared with previous W-OLEDs.

    • @OscarLopez-rn6tu
      @OscarLopez-rn6tu Před rokem

      I also suspect the high increase in brightness must be related or explained by the removing of the polarizer in some grade apart from the new panel’s MLS layer

  • @digant1973
    @digant1973 Před rokem +1

    It seems that the black level of the screen when hit by ambient light is far worse than the QD OLED of last year (that was one of the two minor issues on qd oled panels) that seems fixed on the 2nd generation of QD OLED panels this year.
    For me, the best decision for Panasonic was the adoption of a QD OLED panel 2nd generation in conjunction with the new Pentonic SOC. I suspect Sony is delaying their TV presentation to reach that goal. If so, a big advantage for Sony also for the next years (having more background experience compared to Panasonic). At the end, only the new brighter MLA panel is the change proposed by Panasonic compared to last year while the QD OLED panel was already last year clearly better than WRGB OLED and with more margin of improvement in the next years.

    • @C--A
      @C--A Před rokem

      The new SOC isn't available until 4th quarter 2022 so very unlikely Sony will use it in their 2023 tv's! Maybe next year as will Panasonic.
      As good as the Rec2020 colour volume in QD-OLEDs, very tiny fraction of 4K blu ray discs are mastered to take advantage of it.
      Hence why Panasonic LZ2000 was best overall Home Cinema TV 2022 HDTVtest Blind Shootout. And also best Home Cinema TV in Avforums 2022 TV Awards!

    • @digant1973
      @digant1973 Před rokem +3

      @@C--A You probably meant 4th quarter 2022. As far as I know Pentonic SOC is available since mid of 2022 (it was announced in 2021). If it was available only at the end of 2022 I think no 2023 TV could adopt the new SOC

    • @madcalm2024
      @madcalm2024 Před rokem +1

      The black level of OLED can't be worse. But the contrast can be.

    • @C--A
      @C--A Před rokem

      @@digant1973 Yeah I meant the new MediaTek Pentonic SOC was available/expected 4th quarter 2022. You have to remember that Development of future television's start even before previous model is released.
      Panasonic didn't manage to implement the new MediaTek Pentonic SOC this time round. So it's highly likely Sony won't have the new MediaTek Pentonic SOC either. Unless they delay (very unlikely) their 2nd generation QD-OLED to near the end of the year.

  • @toddpeterson5904
    @toddpeterson5904 Před rokem

    Will OLED ever be able to produce 1000 nits full screen? For those of us who cannot afford a $30k reference monitor but still want to create HDR content that is color accurate, we usually have to choose color accuracy or luminance, but not both. Color is more important, so we can use something like an LG C-series OLED, which is a great option. But when mastering for HDR, the best we can do would be proper reference monitor, or possibly a miniLED for $6k or more, which will still sacrifice some color accuracy.

  • @madcalm2024
    @madcalm2024 Před rokem

    Weren't the TV pictures swapped by error ? The left picture (must be OLED 2022) looks brighter in every scenario.

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Před rokem

    At last white that looks like white if it can fix oled biggest flaws I’m almost sold , but I’m still hoping for that lottery win for the micro led with a ref calibration equivalent