Acolyte - Why It's Better Than You Thought
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2022
- Why didn't anyone tell me Acolyte was this good?
Acolyte is the most overlooked drivetrain in our lineup, and that's probably our fault. We installed it on a couple really nice bikes (Yeti Arc and Larry Vs. Harry EBullitt) to show just how capable it really is. - Sport
Guys, I'm starting to worry about you. You're doing the things Right, usually the industry doesn't like that...anyways, I am a big fan of these videos.
If we get mysteriously silenced, make sure our message lives on!
Yeah, it is a honest model of marketing and that actually works on me. I want to buy more microshift stuff because they dont make any gimmicks and their products make sense to me.
lol i just bought one of these rear derailleurs i have a sram one that cost 90 bucks and this is still better.
I've been using Acolyte for a couple months now on my 90s Diamond Back that I adapted to a commuter with more comfortable bars and tires for street use,. I have to say, I'm in love with it. I'm not super fussy about my cadence, and on the flat I mostly stay in the 40/18 ratio. Other upsides that you didn't mention is that 8 speed chains are some of the cheapest and/or strongest out there, and the wider space between the cogs forgives slight derailleur hanger misalignment, making it a super robust system even when abused!
Finally! Microshift seems like a company that really understood the community and make senses the most of it!
I don't know what they put in the water, but it is working. Please keep doing what you are doing, a lot of us love it, and appreciate the shake up of the big two's ecosystem. It shows you really know your audience, and can deliver on what a lot of mountain bikers really want.
Love what you are doing!
Thanks a lot mister microshift,i really like your groupset and i like their price even more
I got to know this brand because this very drivetrain came in my Sirrus X and it's pretty good.... it lead to look into you as a company and gotta say I'm becoming a supporter. When the times comes to upgrade that drivetrain, I'm gonna go with MicroSHIFT.
Continue to be impressed with acolyte and how well it just works!
Actually pretty impressed with the Advent/Acolyte lines... have assembled 2 bikes with the Acolyte (spring clutch/12-46T) for my niece and nephew with great success... they've been riding them as often as possible and beyond chain maintenance and checking cable stretch have been working great. Built up a "fitness" bike for a friend of mine with a non-clutched (11-42) Advent 9, he's put ~2500 miles on it with only chain maintenance and that bike is now been commandeered by his son, who I think has put an addtionall 500+ miles on it. I have a clutched Advent nine (11-46T) on my beater MTB that I take camping and travel with... not too many miles, but has been totally reliable with minimal maintenance even being exposed to the grit/grime/crud from being dragged around on the bike carrier at the back of my truck....I'm thinking of updating other family and friends bikes with the 8 or 9 speeds so they can go to a 1x systems, that are reliable, but won't break the bank.
Installed the acolyte 12-46 on the wifes old 26" trek, works great. Only issue I ran into was having to swap out square taper BB from a 124.5mm to 113mm to fix the chainline. Still have 1.5 mm clearance between chainring and chainstay 😅
I have stuck with 8 and 9 speed over the years and am very modest about the parts i use. I still use mechanical brakes on all my bikes. I have not used a clutch derailluer yet but could see the acolyte being used on my ebike, Emtb, commuter and even DH bike.
About to get an EBike - costs quite a dime really, with microSHIFT on it - and I was a little skeptical. After this, though, I'm feeling a buildup of confidence. Thanks for having us in mind. Just resist the urge to take that cheque when Shimano or SRAM come knocking. We all know how this could go 😁
My advent 9 speed trail shifter feels in use almost the same as my xt shifter on my other bike. It has really positive engagement and you can shift down 4 gears at a time. Every time I hop on my cheap built winter and loaner bike I don't miss anything from the other bike in terms of drivetrain performance. Keep up the amazing work!
Great down to earth marketing!👍👍👍
I have an acolyte on my ebike and it’s great. Love microshift.
I built mine up on a Triban RC100 ... Getting the shifter on to a drop bar was... messy to say the least... it would be great if the next shifter could come with a hinge. Otherwise love it.
I put about 4000km-s on it in the last year. It is due for a tune-up, but it brought me up hills, often with a gross load of 110kg, with a 38 tooth chain-ring it was good enough so i rarely feel the need to reach for my arguably nicer other bike. And for next year i plan to build a touring bike If i can build a 2x8 with this, that would be perfect. ;)
I love Acolyte! It's a bombproof and reliable drivetrain. My only gripe with it is that the Quick Trigger Pro still uses push/pull vs. push/push levers. That's honestly the biggest barrier stopping me from putting it more of my bikes.
I have Acolyte on my alt-bar gravel bike. 12-46 cassette with a 44 tooth front chainring. It works extremely well. The only issue to nitpick is the limited range, I guess. However I have never hit a climb where I really felt like I needed more than the 46 yet. The fact is, for a gravel bike, you usually get a 42 anyway and dirt roads don't really get that steep. I picked a 44 tooth chainring to make up for the lack 11 tooth cassette, but when in the tallest gear, I feel like I am pushing my legs to their limit anyway. So, really, I have not seen the 12-46 range as a real problem. I paid $88.00 for the cassette, derailleur, and shifter plus a $9.00 chain, all from REI . If this is the way you all are going to do business, you have a customer for life!
Glad you like it, sounds like you're using the group as intended! This is definitely the way we intend to go about doing our business, so let's enjoy the next 80 years together.
I have now got Advent X on my Gravel Bike including the road style Advent X shifters, Have installed an Advent X system to my dad's bike replacing the clumsy Tourney junk that came as standard and have even bought a spare advent X groupset if I ever do a future mtb build. That's how impressed I have been with the Microshift groupsets, and I am coming from riding XT on my old MTB. As an enthusiast rider, I just don't need the few slight performance benefits I get from the big increase in cost for XT and I benefit much more from the replaceability, affordability, and repairability of Advent X. I am absolutely sold on Microshift.
Keep going, guys. Listen to what the people want from their bikes and not the big three marketing department.
I put the acolyte on my sons college bike. After test riding it, I realized how great it was. I was trying to keep this a secret.
There is a specific group of riders that actually does not like to have 50 different gears. I have Advent on my bike, but I think this one would be ok too. I rarely use the hardest gear anyway. But the range is there, I can climb anything like spiderman
Everything i love about Microshift i one video
I have the Super Short version with 11-28 Sram cassette on my “do it all” freeride bike. It’s killer 😄
Oh man, do I need a "do it all" freeride bike as well? You've got me thinking . . .
Acolyte user also for my GT Avalanche. From philippines..
I love your drivetrains! I have an Advent myself. Would love to see you take that quality and price relation to other components like bars and cranks.
Those sound so easy to design compared to rear derailleurs!
@@microSHIFTTECH and yet, they’re also inexplicably expensive! You could do a lot of good in the world of Mtb!
Im definitely gonna have to try Acolyte out soon, i love the two AdventX and the MarvoLT that i have. Can Acolyte be ran with a 2x or 3x setup?
If you use the 42T cassette, it has enough capacity to handle a 10 tooth difference in the chainrings, but that's about it. It's definitely more designed for 1x.
@@microSHIFTTECH Thanks for the quick reply! i might have to try it with a close ratio 2x
@@FedoraQuilava87MusicDid you try it and if so how well did it work? I’m thinking of trying this
I was thinking of using a smaller range such as 11-38t cassette. Has anyone tried using other cassettes than the Microshift?
If you try to use an 11-38 cassette with standard Acolyte, the performance will be very poor. We make a Super Short cage version of Acolyte that's designed specifically for our 11-38t 8-speed cassette. You should run that! It will work with other manufacturers' 11-38t cassettes, but the derailleur will feel a little bit sad because of your disloyalty.
I do bike builds for friends. Having a project keeps me out of trouble. The last such build used Advent 9-speed on a campus commuter. I will have to give Acolyte a try on an upcoming build. This bike will be for a young mother who will be riding a paved rail trail with her daughter. Acolyte should be more than enough.
I need to change most of my drivetrain, rear cassette, chain, front chain rings. I'd seriously consider microSHIFT for a 2x10 or 2x11 drivetrain as an upgrade/replacement for my Alivio 3x9, but I haven't had much luck finding anything from microSHIFT. So my options are Deore XT 2x11, Deore 5120 in 2x10 / 2x11 or wait for Shimano Cues to hit the shops.
We do have XLE 11 speed that is compatible with a double, but at this point it's a pretty unpopular option. The fact is, most folks are switching to 1x at this point. I think 2x is a great option for gravel bikes with a narrower range cassette, but with a wide range cassette that has big steps between gears, a double with like a 10t range really doesn't help much.
Will the Acolyte derailleur talk to your 8 speed road shifter? I have them on my 3x8 and it would be pretty awesome to get that 12-46 cassette and derailleur on there.
No, our wide range MTB shifters pull a lot more cable than our road stuff. Also, our wide range rear derailleurs generally aren't compatible with a front derailleur because of capacity limits.
Can the acolyte drive train system be used in a 3x8 setup or would I need to change to a 1x8 setup?
1x8 only.
So I'm over 400lbs, and building a steel frame bike up. I wanted a 8 speed system for the extra durability factor. Went full Acolyte so we will see how it holds up.
Looking forward to the ride report!
Will this Acolyte rear derailleur work with an Advent 8 speed trigger shifter? Do they use the same cable pull ratios?
Yes they do, cable pull is identical between the two.
@@microSHIFTTECH excellent. Thanks for the quick reply. Is it 1.1:1?
Thanx. What size 1x chainring do I want to get for a 12-46 cassette? Thanx again
Your choice! 30t and 32t are the most common for mountain biking. Many mountain bike frames are not compatible with anything bigger than that. I would start with one of those, and then adjust if the gear range isn't low enough or high enough.
@@microSHIFTTECHthank you! Just ordered the group.
Do you offer any thing like match maker or ispec to attach it to the brake clamps? That would make it even more attractive
Sorry, no. We know that folks are interested in that, but the companies that make those products aren't super interested in having us make something that's compatible.
@@microSHIFTTECH I do understand that the other don't want it, but is it not up to you to make it compatible? Well, to be honest I do not know of licensing is mandatory 🤔🤷🏾♂️
Can i use these on MV's and folding bikes?
I've seen some guys replacing their AdventX v1 for the Acolyte. I'm using the legacy XLE11 and would prefer the Acolyte, but it is expensive here in Brazil (I don't know why). Why don't you guys use the same SpringLock system for AdventX?
SpringLock is good, but our ratchet and pawl clutch is better in terms of providing good chain stability without increasing tension on the shifter too much.
Do I need a dork disk to replace the 11-32 on my kids and wife’s bike with this? If so where do you find those?
No dork disc necessary as long as you set up the limit screws correctly.
@@microSHIFTTECH thanks not making me look like a dork
Hey my freind, is the 8 speed acolyte cassette compatible with a sram 8 speed rear derailleur?
No, the range is too wide for SRAM 8-speed, the guide pulley won't make it up to the biggest cog.
@@microSHIFTTECH the sram x1 rear derailleur is 46t max, i actually was refering to the acolyte 11-38t cassette paired with the sram x1 8 speed derailleur
Cool product, good marketing
if it works well it's good, that simple.
Can the super short version be run with 2x?
Nope, it's 1x specific. You need a longish cage to take up the chain slack from a double.
Can you still shift with clutch engaged?
Yes for sure, it's designed to be used with the clutch engaged at all times.
@@microSHIFTTECH perfect!
So why doesn't microSHIFT make a 1x8 drop-bar shifter for an Acolyte derailleur (RD-M5185M specifically) to use on a microSHIFT 12-42T cassette?
Haven't had enough demand, honestly. It's hard for us to make every thing. You can always use a 9 speed Advent drop bar shifter with an Acolyte rear derailleur and an 11-42 nine speed cassette.
@@microSHIFTTECH, Really? You do make a pair of 1x8 DD bar shifters (SB-R480) except that they're not compatible with your own products; i.e., _"Compatible with Shimano 8 speed road derailleurs"_
Can I ride up steep hills with this 1x8?
Yes!
Please new vídeos for e-bikes and Cargo Bikes or Cargo e-bikes. 8 And 9 Speed Durability of the components🤘🏻
Expensive mean extra time workin to get it. Cheap mean extra time for fun. Fun time is priceless.
Definitely super value for the American market but they're competing against Aliexpress parts and those are "cheaper".
But how well do they work? How well are they supported? We're not perfect, but we're a real brand, you know what I mean?
Have 2 sets of Acolyte, 1 set of Advent, 2 sets of AdventX. All performing well and as advertised. Please bring on an 11 (or 12) speed.
Is 12 speed necessary though?
Make a video of it going through all the gears😂
Maybe we will . . .
To be fair a lot of 1x lag slightly from 7-8 which is why some times I kick out the front chainring slightly on my stuff.
I made a video its not worth the headaches advent ain't bad
Adventx is epic but my acolyte is not up to par.
If you're having trouble, feel free to reach out to our customer service folks. We stand behind all of our products!
@@microSHIFTTECH that’s the first thing I did and two weeks later my bike shifts like garbage also had to take it to the bike shop and spend another 50$ for them to tell me the derailleur is bad.
Sourly regret not getting the 10 speed deore groupset which was on sale too!
It's not cheap, it's inexpensive, which has different connotations in the real world. Cheap is used as both inexpensive and of lesser quality. These are not cheap, but they are extremely inexpensive.
not at all a good sign when the like dislike ratio is disabled by the channel. guess im spending that extra money on a shimano or sram.
That is a fascinating way to make drivetrain decisions.