Brother, to start/prime any diesel with a dry injection system, simply stretch a gasoline soaked wrag across/over the air intake and crank, it will fire better than starter fluid with no lock up. Fire it on gasoline fumes until till she takes on diesel. I am a former Alaskan diesel mechanic, and this works at 35°F below.
Of course a diesel mechanic would give us a tip that terrible. Gas fumes are still gasoline, ether is better because it doesn’t have as strong of a pre-ignition knock as gas, less potential for damage with ether assuming you don’t put a gallon of it in the intake.
The factory mufflers are extremely restrictive, you will gain a horsepower with any honda clone or predator header. The intake is also restrictive and robs power. The adjustment screw that the red throttle screw stops on is set at 3,000 rpm. If you remove the adjustment screw it will rev to 3,700 rpm which is totally safe for that little engine.
@@RedNeckAdventure there's no benefit to it. I just built one of these to blueprint specs and ported the head and slight porting /shaping on the prechamber and the power still drops off after 3,000. The stock heads on these stink so bad. The valves are completely shrouded, that's the biggest issue.
I bought a 10hp Chinese Diesel engine from a warehouse in the USA. It was shipped in 2 separate boxes. The outer box had a "THIS SIDE UP" notice on it. The Inside box was inserted UpSideDown in the box with the "THIS SIDE UP" notice...so the Engine made the entire trip UpSideDown, the Fuel Tank and the Muffler were all banged to Hell when I opened it up. I got my full purchase price back ! Liked/Subscribed !
Great reenactment of the delivery..lol..that Diesel engine is actually a 4hp Diesel with lots of torque for its size.. although many ads sell it as a 6hp in their description..it's really just a 4hp..I have seen it replace 8hp gasoline engines on several different machines such as log splitters..they can run on different fuel types without issues too such as used ATF ( automatic transmission fluid) and a slew of others..the original Diesel engines burned peanut oil before diesel fuel was available..probably burn almost anything but gasoline..used Vegetable oil would need to be heated up, like a copper coil / line wrapped around the exhaust system before it would burn..and the engine would need to start and be running Diesel fuel a few minutes to clean out the injector before turning it off if used with Veg oil etc..just a few on / off valves and separate fuel container to make it happen..Cheers..
I have a diesel engine I got from a stripped down generator at a local scrap yard. It was complete minus the muffler, voltage regulator and recoil starter. I got a nice muffler from an Onan twin engine, one of 2 (it was a twin cylinder), and I'll make it fit. I'm thinking of putting it on a riding tractor for riding around on.
I honestly haven't laughed that hard in a while. 1 intro = 1 sub! Today fedex destroyed my Titan V2 intercooler, so it was extra satisfying clicking on your vid.
@@jwsbackyard6413 yea. I just watched this vid the other day. Didn’t realize u had already done it. I just seen it last night 😆 them little diesels are wild.
Because its air cooled it takes a while to warm up. for a deisel with no glow plugs this means the fuel takes much longer to ignite in the cold, causing bad timing.
@@MADEINNSW Makes sense usually but I've seen colder starts on here that run better. Then again these 3hp or whatever diesels are super bottom of barrel
It's Just because it's a cheap engine quality diesels of this size run completely fine from cold I've started mine down to -10c and it still started first time (robin/Subaru/Fuji)
I am so happy to see people starting to use these cheap diesel engines for various applications. There are way too many restrictions on engines everywhere these days and our American enginuity is thumbing a nose at the EPA bullshit.
The sad part is 95% of ppl believe in it all, all the EPA REG, the emissions systems, it’s all bullshit. U do the math. An old 12 valve manual truck can do high 20s freeway mileage wise. They are million mile engines: u gotta build 3-4 trucks today to get that mileage. Not to mention the new ones get 13mpg. So they are burning 3x the fuel. Ppl also don’t factor in old diesels can run on crude. It done even need to to be burned to petroleum. The USA sits on more crude than anyone in the whole. It makes zero sense: ppl need to understand the gov is not on our team. It’s us and them. And we will continue to get shit on til ppl wake up: I may sound like a crazy xtremelist but I’m not. I’m just not being fooled by either side of the isles.
Lol intro prob demonetized. I bought two generators one with a 178f and the other a 186f. I'm going to fix and sell the one and use the money to rebuild the blown 186f 10hp. Looks like it dropped a valve and cracked the piston. No idea what I will use the engine for but it's cool af. Should break even and have a free China diesel
Here is a tip with those diesel engines I have run a few of them over the years add someone cheap Walmart 2 stroke oil to the fuel 111ml to 5L diesel and some ctane booster helps the injection work better and start easier. Also change the oil a few times after the first few runs. Also a bit bet exhaust helps to! 🤘🏻🍻
@@jwsbackyard6413 The last one I bought about 6 years ago had a lot of contamination after the first hour run time. The shell Rotella 15W40 diesel oil is the best I find in these engines. Has a lot of zinc in it witch is a good thing. Also when you add the 2 stroke oil it doesn't make it smoke any more than it already does
Enjoyed the video! I have the same diesel engine just from a different manufacture. I'm trying to figure out what I can do with this engine so I'm glad I stumbled across this video. It'd be pretty cool to turbo this engine or maybe supercharge it. You could turn some serious power on that thing.
Typically , ie most commonly the Recommended oil is 15w-40 , I'd use a variant for big Diesel Turbo Truck applications. Nice swap Brother For a cut off I'd might try a cable system to pull the decompression handle down , cutting the compression & very helpful if 1 were to ever experience a runaway scenario . I'm sure there are other ways , yet I'd also like to see an Add on self regulating Alternator to charge a battery, run lights, winch & a Fan to cool engine in hotter weather . Just a few thoughts & you've definitely got the Skills to make These things happen . New follower 👍 Graciously, Reverend RM Bowles Now I do need to do a swap on a Bolens lawn mower , shouldn't be too difficult but I haven't yet figured out how to swap my Bolens Vertical shaft Rear tine tiller yet . Help here would be greatly appreciated We need these Swap solutions , ty for being a Entrepreneur & Pioneer May the Good Lord Bless you
I appreciate it! Yeah the cable to the decompression seemed to be the best option. I have the cable and brakes I just need to get it on. You’ve got me interested now in the horizontal shaft to vertical transition now. I don’t have any suggestions at the moment. I’m going to have to look into it and let you know if I see anything promising.
Also, For the one I have the owners manual recommends 10W-30 motor oil although a lot of people keep telling me to use Rotella diesel oil, no idea if it actually needs it or not.
Seems that that same delivery fellow drops stuff at my house on occasion. Congratulations you have created a truly obnoxious machine. But, it’s pretty unique too so, motor on and enjoy.
The problem with running diesel on a torque converter is your gaining no benefits over a gasoline engine. On a torque converter that is, direct drive or with a clutch would be different.
@@jwsbackyard6413that belt slips when you put too much torque through them, it's really more fit for a gasoline engine. This is the same reason why you don't see diesel cars with a CVT, they always come with either a DCT or a conventional AT. The high torque at low RPM doesn't translate well with a belt drive CVT.
FYI, starting fluid kills diesels. It's best to take a rag with a little gas on it and put it over the air filter housing. The fumes will run it more gently than ether will. But it looks like it was just an issue with bleeding that you had to deal with.
@@soberlife depends on a few things like volume, if it's two stroke boost pressure and the compression ratio. You can use either on an old Detroit but it'll just cause small diesels to detonate and bust rods.
Ether won't hurt a diesel. Done it hundreds of times and the outcome is always the same. They started. Its a total myth that it will destroy them. Glow plugs don't really like it, but regardless won't destroy an engine. Go watch zip ties n bias plies. He makes fun of this myth a lot while he is doing it.
He forgot to turn the throttle from "shut off" to "on". On all of these mechanical small diesel engines the lowest throttle position is "off" for the fuel = No fuel goes to the injector.
I have a single cylinder Yan Marr diesel engine it’s made in Japan it works really really good it came off a compactor I had it run away on me two times because I accidentally overfill Oil However it did not blow up I like that design that you have on that engine versus the one that I have because the one I have is straight up and down
I ran a cable through the throttle stop screw that it has from factory. The stop screw is hollow and allows for a throttle cable to pass through but has a bigger cup that will hold the outer sheath of the throttle cable. Then I ran the cable through one of the holes in the throttle lever and put a cable stop on the cable. I put the cable stop on low enough that it always keeps a little tension on the throttle lever so that the engine will idle instead of returning all the way to stop. The red knob has to be loose so that the throttle will return to idle smoothly and not get stuck wide open. I will try to post a video of the setup soon.
Sounds pretty good and rolls a fair amount of black smoke. Had my yellow 196 "4 horsepower" (actually a 3.5 horse) in a shed for about a year and it runs pretty strong to this day. Bought it for my mini tractor project. Also. Some people wonder if these cheap diesels share the same internal and external parts as the Hondas/Clones/Predators and such, and they want to know mainly because of all the aftermarket support (exhaust, air filters, connecting rods, etc.) for said engines. To answer their question: yes and no. Obviously the intake and exhaust manifold ports are the same as the 160/196/212 gas counterparts. I have a cheap Amazon intake adapter for a GX160 bolted to it and I used a flange from a generic 196 to make my smoke stack header. Judging by the outside view of my diesel engine, it looks to have the same bore and stroke as the said gas engines as well, so the billet connecting rods and pistons will definitely interchange and the high-revving crankshafts MIGHT interchange too. Cylinder heads will also interchange but good luck putting a fuel injector in the spark plug threads of a 212 HEMI cylinder head. Camshafts will interchange unless the diesel cam is of a bigger diameter or has another gear on it specifically to drive the fuel pump. Hopefully I'm right about some of this stuff. I'm honestly not familiar with these small diesels. LOL
I got one of these from Amazon. It arrived with the throttle control bent all to hell. I fixed that but the spring runs from the throttle control to a lever under the gas tank. When adjusting the throttle control the lever doesn't move. This doesn't seem right. Have you noticed on yours if the lever has much travel to it? I haven't been able to get fuel through the metal line. When I disconnect it at the bottom where it is hooked to the pump I get fuel but none at the top of the line.
The lever doesn’t have a ton of movement but that lever is what shuts off the flow of fuel. When you prime the fuel you have to have the throttle control open as if you are pressing the gas, otherwise the fuel is cut off. That was a mistake I made.
@@jwsbackyard6413 The lever only moves about 1/16 of an inch. I have the throttle control set nearly half way and still no fuel. I may have to return this engine.
How is it on fuel consumption? Just bought one for a DC generator to charge my batteries for my solar setup for Cloudy days. Thinking it will be better than gasoline. Thoughts?
It always frustrates me when folk fit CVT transmission to things with no adjustments. In scooters you change roller weights, unless you get it right they are horribly slow, revving to high or low. In your Chinese CVT there is no adjustment ......unless...you change the spring on rear pulley, stiffer for higher rpm Even the ramp angle of rear pulley can be wrong so that the rpm is correct at full load but not at other times or vice versa!
I have a selection of garter springs to change engagement speeds on 30 series torque converters as wheel as yellow springs for the driven pulley if needed. Axle and jack shaft sprockets can also be changed here for different results but with an unknown engine and no one knows what changes to the converter are going to work for the setup until they get it together and try it out. I’ve changed the driver and jackshaft sprocket since this video and the kart is much faster.
It’s a 20mm output shaft, most are 19mm, so it’s hard to find an affordable option. I shaved the output shaft down a mm so I could fit a standard 3/4 on it. I’m using a 30 series comet torque converter on it but it’s not quite strong enough to hold the belt with as heavy as the kart is.
So far I have done zero maintenance on any part of this engine since I posted the video and it cranks 1st pull almost every time. The rubber fuel hose has started to crack on the outside which seems premature so it will probably need replacement soon.
I have a new predator 212cc and almost every time I tried to start it (before the break in period) it would backfire and yank the starter rope out of my hand, any idea why?
Dont listen to Jockwilson. This is an issue that we have come to accept with the 212. The engine has a built in decompression lobe on the camshaft that is designed to open the exhaust valve slightly during compression to make starting it easier. When the engine reaches its idle rpm, this lobe gets flung with centrifugal force, disconnecting the decompression. Most likely, im assuming you are starting the engine hot. Due to the extra force of the compression stroke, the engine likes to stop on said stroke if you shut off the engine,(if that makes sense) Due to this, the decompression often doesnt get a chance to trigger, leading to full compression of the engine, which means it fires before the piston reaches TDC, leading to the engine kicking back, as the term is named. What I like to do, is to pull it past said compression stroke gently, and once you pass it, you then give it a hard yank to start the engine. It might make you look like a pussy, but trust me, its worked fine for me every single time. The second more unlikely possibility is that somehow, the valve lash on the exhaust valve has changed, (aka the space between the rocker arms and valve stems) leading to the engine becoming insensitive to the slight opening of decompression, which means you need to manually recalibrate the valve lash on the engine, which you can find lots of videos about on youtube. Good luck on it!
I want to understand how the accelerator works. How can the vehicle not move while the engine is turning and how does the accelerator make it move and increase engin power?
I know there is a needle in the pump that retracts and allows for more fuel but I haven’t had the side cover off to see exactly how it’s being controlled.
Diesel engines always run lean, the RPM is controlled by how much fuel is sprayed into the engine. There is no throttle body or carburetor piston to block off the air supply.
Diesels will start easier if you take a hair dryer and stick the nozzle into the air intake. Blow hot air into the engine. If it's getting fuel it will start.
Here’s a link to the how to video. Amazon 196cc Diesel Engine- How To Connect Throttle Cable and Idle On Go-kart czcams.com/video/888ACF5Gji4/video.html
Air cooled mini diesel should get very very hot so "20W50 4Stroke" for gas bikes would be right.... Diesel oil if modern means no additives for DieseParticleFilter which should be extra wrong oil, 0W30 or something is complete trash in this. Want to prolong the live of this little thing, add synthetic two stroke oil to diesel which is used for little two cycles, only a small spoon to the tank would help the injection pump as modern diesel is not as lubing as decades ago :-)
If the engine was not packaged properly you can blame China. If it was, all I can say is, the warehouse sorting alone is brutal on shipments. Source: I work for UPS.
Brother, to start/prime any diesel with a dry injection system, simply stretch a gasoline soaked wrag across/over the air intake and crank, it will fire better than starter fluid with no lock up. Fire it on gasoline fumes until till she takes on diesel. I am a former Alaskan diesel mechanic, and this works at 35°F below.
Thanks do I soak in deisel?
@@JohnSmith-wq8jndid you read thoroughly?he said soaked in gasoline
@@JohnSmith-wq8jni before E except after C does spelling wonders
@@jkclassy3643weird.
Of course a diesel mechanic would give us a tip that terrible. Gas fumes are still gasoline, ether is better because it doesn’t have as strong of a pre-ignition knock as gas, less potential for damage with ether assuming you don’t put a gallon of it in the intake.
The factory mufflers are extremely restrictive, you will gain a horsepower with any honda clone or predator header. The intake is also restrictive and robs power.
The adjustment screw that the red throttle screw stops on is set at 3,000 rpm. If you remove the adjustment screw it will rev to 3,700 rpm which is totally safe for that little engine.
Do the Predator headers fit with no modifications?
It has had a smoke stack now and you can tell it breathes a lot better
@@greglewis3382 I believe they do, it just may point in a weird direction.
Does it have some sort of governing system that can be modified/removed so it can go above 3,700
@@RedNeckAdventure there's no benefit to it. I just built one of these to blueprint specs and ported the head and slight porting /shaping on the prechamber and the power still drops off after 3,000. The stock heads on these stink so bad. The valves are completely shrouded, that's the biggest issue.
That delivery scene killed me… 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Meesa deliver engine chop chop! *SMASH*
Facts
At first i didn't notice that commie rice patty hat he had on 😂
Thought it was stupid
I bought a 10hp Chinese Diesel engine from a warehouse in the USA. It was shipped in 2 separate boxes. The outer box had a "THIS SIDE UP" notice on it. The Inside box was inserted UpSideDown in the box with the
"THIS SIDE UP" notice...so the Engine made the entire trip UpSideDown, the Fuel Tank and the Muffler were all banged to Hell when I opened it up. I got my full purchase price back ! Liked/Subscribed !
Shoot that worked out pretty good then
Whered you get it
Great reenactment of the delivery..lol..that Diesel engine is actually a 4hp Diesel with lots of torque for its size.. although many ads sell it as a 6hp in their description..it's really just a 4hp..I have seen it replace 8hp gasoline engines on several different machines such as log splitters..they can run on different fuel types without issues too such as used ATF ( automatic transmission fluid) and a slew of others..the original Diesel engines burned peanut oil before diesel fuel was available..probably burn almost anything but gasoline..used Vegetable oil would need to be heated up, like a copper coil / line wrapped around the exhaust system before it would burn..and the engine would need to start and be running Diesel fuel a few minutes to clean out the injector before turning it off if used with Veg oil etc..just a few on / off valves and separate fuel container to make it happen..Cheers..
Used motor oil mixed with gas works much better than veggie oil and doesn't need to be preheated
@@thegman4759 and you could probably a bunch free, just ask auto stores that accepts used motor oil
@@thegman4759 hell no.
@@DieselRamcharger hell no ? What?
@Diesel Ramcharger you make no sense
I have a diesel engine I got from a stripped down generator at a local scrap yard. It was complete minus the muffler, voltage regulator and recoil starter. I got a nice muffler from an Onan twin engine, one of 2 (it was a twin cylinder), and I'll make it fit. I'm thinking of putting it on a riding tractor for riding around on.
Get a Hillard clutch with green springs for 800rpm engagement, works really good that way.
I honestly haven't laughed that hard in a while. 1 intro = 1 sub! Today fedex destroyed my Titan V2 intercooler, so it was extra satisfying clicking on your vid.
U should make a smoke stack for it 😂
Oh yeah I’ve had a stack on it for a while now. I have a few videos on it.
@@jwsbackyard6413 yea. I just watched this vid the other day. Didn’t realize u had already done it. I just seen it last night 😆 them little diesels are wild.
Love it! Glad to see there are still "Mad Scientists around!
Cool engine swap, I wonder why that engine always runs so horribly when cold though?
Also love the output shaft "lathe" work 😂
Because its air cooled it takes a while to warm up. for a deisel with no glow plugs this means the fuel takes much longer to ignite in the cold, causing bad timing.
@@MADEINNSW Makes sense usually but I've seen colder starts on here that run better.
Then again these 3hp or whatever diesels are super bottom of barrel
It's Just because it's a cheap engine quality diesels of this size run completely fine from cold I've started mine down to -10c and it still started first time (robin/Subaru/Fuji)
Great video, mate. Iparticularly enjoyed the first3 minutes…. 😉
Little motor pulled through that mud very well a lot of torque 💯💯💪
I used to hydro plan my mini bikes in the orchards.
I am so happy to see people starting to use these cheap diesel engines for various applications. There are way too many restrictions on engines everywhere these days and our American enginuity is thumbing a nose at the EPA bullshit.
The sad part is 95% of ppl believe in it all, all the EPA REG, the emissions systems, it’s all bullshit. U do the math. An old 12 valve manual truck can do high 20s freeway mileage wise. They are million mile engines: u gotta build 3-4 trucks today to get that mileage. Not to mention the new ones get 13mpg. So they are burning 3x the fuel. Ppl also don’t factor in old diesels can run on crude. It done even need to to be burned to petroleum. The USA sits on more crude than anyone in the whole. It makes zero sense: ppl need to understand the gov is not on our team. It’s us and them. And we will continue to get shit on til ppl wake up: I may sound like a crazy xtremelist but I’m not. I’m just not being fooled by either side of the isles.
Lol intro prob demonetized. I bought two generators one with a 178f and the other a 186f. I'm going to fix and sell the one and use the money to rebuild the blown 186f 10hp. Looks like it dropped a valve and cracked the piston. No idea what I will use the engine for but it's cool af. Should break even and have a free China diesel
Ain’t much of a speed demon, but seems like a little torque monster
I had suspected that's how mine was delivered, but I didn't have a camera set up.
basic diesel motor doesn't need any electric. To shut down just cut the fuel off
Here is a tip with those diesel engines I have run a few of them over the years add someone cheap Walmart 2 stroke oil to the fuel 111ml to 5L diesel and some ctane booster helps the injection work better and start easier. Also change the oil a few times after the first few runs. Also a bit bet exhaust helps to! 🤘🏻🍻
Appreciate it, I’ve got some ctane boost, I’ll have to look into the oil and def overdue for an oil change
@@jwsbackyard6413 The last one I bought about 6 years ago had a lot of contamination after the first hour run time. The shell Rotella 15W40 diesel oil is the best I find in these engines. Has a lot of zinc in it witch is a good thing. Also when you add the 2 stroke oil it doesn't make it smoke any more than it already does
Gotcha
Ho Ree Sheet ! I have the same delivery guy. I think he took the wong way from China.
I decided to use mine on my wheel horse
That's pretty cool :) I just bought one of the 10hp diesels myself. I'm probably going to bolt it up to a generator head.
Glad this was recommended to me. Had a good laugh.
Enjoyed the video! I have the same diesel engine just from a different manufacture. I'm trying to figure out what I can do with this engine so I'm glad I stumbled across this video. It'd be pretty cool to turbo this engine or maybe supercharge it. You could turn some serious power on that thing.
I came across a video a while back where red beards garage had turbo one of these
Typically , ie most commonly the Recommended oil is 15w-40 , I'd use a variant for big Diesel Turbo Truck applications.
Nice swap Brother
For a cut off I'd might try a cable system to pull the decompression handle down , cutting the compression & very helpful if 1 were to ever experience a runaway scenario .
I'm sure there are other ways , yet I'd also like to see an Add on self regulating Alternator to charge a battery, run lights, winch & a Fan to cool engine in hotter weather .
Just a few thoughts & you've definitely got the Skills to make These things happen .
New follower 👍
Graciously, Reverend RM Bowles
Now I do need to do a swap on a Bolens lawn mower , shouldn't be too difficult but I haven't yet figured out how to swap my Bolens Vertical shaft Rear tine tiller yet .
Help here would be greatly appreciated
We need these Swap solutions , ty for being a Entrepreneur & Pioneer
May the Good Lord Bless you
I appreciate it! Yeah the cable to the decompression seemed to be the best option. I have the cable and brakes I just need to get it on. You’ve got me interested now in the horizontal shaft to vertical transition now. I don’t have any suggestions at the moment. I’m going to have to look into it and let you know if I see anything promising.
the intro was worth the watch :D
Need to run another jackshaft b4 clutch to bring RPMs up so clutch will work right-better. Or adjust weights in clutch
Lol this is so funny. You are acting like a drunk Chinese dude haha
Also, For the one I have the owners manual recommends 10W-30 motor oil although a lot of people keep telling me to use Rotella diesel oil, no idea if it actually needs it or not.
its a flat tappet cam so it really needs oil with zink in it
Your gonna have to adjust torque converter to come on earlier since u lost rpm from gas motor it's take longer to close .
Check the keyway for the flywheel on your old motor you took off
Shit got me giggling like a little school girl with the opening scene
😂🤣this is exactly how mine was delivered
You pull the cord till it’s tight then push the decompression and pull and it will start right up I just naught one and it work great
Oh yeah this one does the same, the issue was that I hadn’t primed the fuel system correctly at the start.
I smell diesel, grass and wood shavings!???! Hoho
I felt that backfire
Seems that that same delivery fellow drops stuff at my house on occasion. Congratulations you have created a truly obnoxious machine. But, it’s pretty unique too so, motor on and enjoy.
Subscribed just for the intro with the paddy hat 😂😂😂😂
The problem with running diesel on a torque converter is your gaining no benefits over a gasoline engine. On a torque converter that is, direct drive or with a clutch would be different.
What do you mean there is no benefit with a torque converter on a diesel?
@@jwsbackyard6413that belt slips when you put too much torque through them, it's really more fit for a gasoline engine.
This is the same reason why you don't see diesel cars with a CVT, they always come with either a DCT or a conventional AT.
The high torque at low RPM doesn't translate well with a belt drive CVT.
Cool!! I am working on a custom minibike that I am going to throw a diesel engine on...
That’ll be interesting
3:30 into the video and my man is still delivering it..... hahaha
that will be the fist banjo that needs to be lined up.
FYI, starting fluid kills diesels. It's best to take a rag with a little gas on it and put it over the air filter housing. The fumes will run it more gently than ether will. But it looks like it was just an issue with bleeding that you had to deal with.
More of an issue if there's glow plugs. Back in the day diesels had ether injection for cold starts before glow plugs.
@@soberlife depends on a few things like volume, if it's two stroke boost pressure and the compression ratio. You can use either on an old Detroit but it'll just cause small diesels to detonate and bust rods.
Ether won't hurt a diesel. Done it hundreds of times and the outcome is always the same. They started. Its a total myth that it will destroy them. Glow plugs don't really like it, but regardless won't destroy an engine. Go watch zip ties n bias plies. He makes fun of this myth a lot while he is doing it.
He forgot to turn the throttle from "shut off" to "on". On all of these mechanical small diesel engines the lowest throttle position is "off" for the fuel = No fuel goes to the injector.
Not true.... No, just no
That’s UPS or Fedex, I too have the evidence!
I have a single cylinder Yan Marr diesel engine it’s made in Japan it works really really good it came off a compactor I had it run away on me two times because I accidentally overfill Oil However it did not blow up I like that design that you have on that engine versus the one that I have because the one I have is straight up and down
Hey cool video I put one of these on my Coleman mini bike how'd you connect a proper throttle cable
I ran a cable through the throttle stop screw that it has from factory. The stop screw is hollow and allows for a throttle cable to pass through but has a bigger cup that will hold the outer sheath of the throttle cable. Then I ran the cable through one of the holes in the throttle lever and put a cable stop on the cable. I put the cable stop on low enough that it always keeps a little tension on the throttle lever so that the engine will idle instead of returning all the way to stop. The red knob has to be loose so that the throttle will return to idle smoothly and not get stuck wide open. I will try to post a video of the setup soon.
Just uploaded a video of the throttle cable setup
Sounds pretty good and rolls a fair amount of black smoke. Had my yellow 196 "4 horsepower" (actually a 3.5 horse) in a shed for about a year and it runs pretty strong to this day. Bought it for my mini tractor project.
Also. Some people wonder if these cheap diesels share the same internal and external parts as the Hondas/Clones/Predators and such, and they want to know mainly because of all the aftermarket support (exhaust, air filters, connecting rods, etc.) for said engines. To answer their question: yes and no. Obviously the intake and exhaust manifold ports are the same as the 160/196/212 gas counterparts. I have a cheap Amazon intake adapter for a GX160 bolted to it and I used a flange from a generic 196 to make my smoke stack header. Judging by the outside view of my diesel engine, it looks to have the same bore and stroke as the said gas engines as well, so the billet connecting rods and pistons will definitely interchange and the high-revving crankshafts MIGHT interchange too. Cylinder heads will also interchange but good luck putting a fuel injector in the spark plug threads of a 212 HEMI cylinder head. Camshafts will interchange unless the diesel cam is of a bigger diameter or has another gear on it specifically to drive the fuel pump. Hopefully I'm right about some of this stuff. I'm honestly not familiar with these small diesels. LOL
I've got the same engine you do. Going to be testing some of these theories later this week. Did a diesel swap on my Massimo 220U minibike.
I think the cam has an extra lobe to drive the injection pump via a pushrod.
@@Possumliving Darn. Guess that leaves the camshaft compatibility out.
@@FreidPickles Cool. Hope the tests went/are going good (my reply is late, I'm sorry lol).
@@ChickenwithaHelmet haha hey no problem. I've been lazy and busy with other projects but will be working on it when the weather cools off.
Yup ups is getting better
It’s cool if u don’t mind smelling like diesel all day👌👌👌
I got one of these from Amazon. It arrived with the throttle control bent all to hell. I fixed that but the spring runs from the throttle control to a lever under the gas tank. When adjusting the throttle control the lever doesn't move. This doesn't seem right. Have you noticed on yours if the lever has much travel to it? I haven't been able to get fuel through the metal line. When I disconnect it at the bottom where it is hooked to the pump I get fuel but none at the top of the line.
The lever doesn’t have a ton of movement but that lever is what shuts off the flow of fuel. When you prime the fuel you have to have the throttle control open as if you are pressing the gas, otherwise the fuel is cut off. That was a mistake I made.
@@jwsbackyard6413 The lever only moves about 1/16 of an inch. I have the throttle control set nearly half way and still no fuel. I may have to return this engine.
Yeah I have had the pump out but haven’t opened the side cover up to see how the linkage really functions.
Did the engine come with a key way or did you have to find one for it?
It did not come with a key. I filed the crank down mm and a standard 3/16 key fit.
That’s awesome brother
Awesome !!
Chinese delivery men sure take the most unconventional delivery routes I've ever seen. I guess traffic must've been really bad.
It’s naturally aspirated I don’t think you need to worry about a runaway
15:32 very eco friendly I love it
Looking like a perfect bicycle engine kit. Lol
This thing is heavy! It’d be rough on a bike. You’d yank the bike off the ground before getting it started.
@@jwsbackyard6413 tricycle for adults then...
Small diesels need thick high zinc oils. 10w30 wont cut it. Go with 10w40 or 15w40 rotella.
Thanks I will have to look into that
How is it on fuel consumption? Just bought one for a DC generator to charge my batteries for my solar setup for Cloudy days. Thinking it will be better than gasoline. Thoughts?
I definitely fill it up less than my gasoline engines for the same running time. Don’t have any numbers but there is a noticeable difference.
It always frustrates me when folk fit CVT transmission to things with no adjustments.
In scooters you change roller weights, unless you get it right they are horribly slow, revving to high or low.
In your Chinese CVT there is no adjustment ......unless...you change the spring on rear pulley, stiffer for higher rpm
Even the ramp angle of rear pulley can be wrong so that the rpm is correct at full load but not at other times or vice versa!
I have a selection of garter springs to change engagement speeds on 30 series torque converters as wheel as yellow springs for the driven pulley if needed. Axle and jack shaft sprockets can also be changed here for different results but with an unknown engine and no one knows what changes to the converter are going to work for the setup until they get it together and try it out. I’ve changed the driver and jackshaft sprocket since this video and the kart is much faster.
What size centrifugal clutch do I get ? I wanna build one
It’s a 20mm output shaft, most are 19mm, so it’s hard to find an affordable option. I shaved the output shaft down a mm so I could fit a standard 3/4 on it. I’m using a 30 series comet torque converter on it but it’s not quite strong enough to hold the belt with as heavy as the kart is.
Definitely get some diesel specific oil lol like some shell rottella t4
Cool video and interesting project
Nice wobble on that back wheel..
This kart was $25, is over 30 years old and was rotting in someone’s yard for the past 15 years. It’s not perfect but it works.
How consuming for liters/ 100mph
I for one would be interested to see how well the injection system lasts from a maintenance perspective.
So far I have done zero maintenance on any part of this engine since I posted the video and it cranks 1st pull almost every time. The rubber fuel hose has started to crack on the outside which seems premature so it will probably need replacement soon.
Guillotine for the air box will work and if it ever tries to run away that can stop it
roflmao this intor tho i am ded lmfao
Did you fill your diesel engine with gas? Or did you fill a gas can with diesel fuel?
It’s just diesel in a red can
Your crash should get a Grammy
Oh my god I just laughed my ass off
I have a new predator 212cc and almost every time I tried to start it (before the break in period) it would backfire and yank the starter rope out of my hand, any idea why?
Timming has slipped
or to much fuel is getting into cyl
@@jockwilson221 its brand new and I don’t think it’s doing it anymore, it hasn’t yet.
@@jockwilson221 predator 212 doesn’t have timing chain
Dont listen to Jockwilson. This is an issue that we have come to accept with the 212. The engine has a built in decompression lobe on the camshaft that is designed to open the exhaust valve slightly during compression to make starting it easier. When the engine reaches its idle rpm, this lobe gets flung with centrifugal force, disconnecting the decompression. Most likely, im assuming you are starting the engine hot. Due to the extra force of the compression stroke, the engine likes to stop on said stroke if you shut off the engine,(if that makes sense) Due to this, the decompression often doesnt get a chance to trigger, leading to full compression of the engine, which means it fires before the piston reaches TDC, leading to the engine kicking back, as the term is named. What I like to do, is to pull it past said compression stroke gently, and once you pass it, you then give it a hard yank to start the engine. It might make you look like a pussy, but trust me, its worked fine for me every single time. The second more unlikely possibility is that somehow, the valve lash on the exhaust valve has changed, (aka the space between the rocker arms and valve stems) leading to the engine becoming insensitive to the slight opening of decompression, which means you need to manually recalibrate the valve lash on the engine, which you can find lots of videos about on youtube. Good luck on it!
Was it Murray explorers frame ?
Yeah it’s a Murray Explorer
Funniest intro ever!! 🤣🤣🤣
Ha,Ha ; you so funny G.I.!!!
So I annt the one having issues with delivery 😆😆😆😆😆
Is the fuel consumption comparable to a gas engine, or better?
I would say it was a little better than gas. Not a ton but a little.
How’d you get around the throttle to work by pedal?
Here’s the video on how I did it. How To Hook Up A Working Throttle Cable On a 196cc Chinese Diesel Engine
czcams.com/video/888ACF5Gji4/video.html
I put mine on my reel mower.
Ya bleeding the wrong side
need some help turbocharging it?
I want to understand how the accelerator works.
How can the vehicle not move while the engine is turning and how does the accelerator make it move and increase engin power?
I know there is a needle in the pump that retracts and allows for more fuel but I haven’t had the side cover off to see exactly how it’s being controlled.
@@jwsbackyard6413 Thank you
Diesel engines always run lean, the RPM is controlled by how much fuel is sprayed into the engine. There is no throttle body or carburetor piston to block off the air supply.
@@tristan6509 Thank you :)
whats the top speed?
It has a pretty high gear ratio so it’s limited mainly by gearing but it’s probably somewhere around 20mph or under.
What’s the top speed?
This kart is geared pretty low so around 20mph or less. The gearing is the main factor determining top speed.
Turbo definitely turbo hint hint
Diesels will start easier if you take a hair dryer and stick the nozzle into the air intake. Blow hot air into the engine. If it's getting fuel it will start.
Sounds like a Chinese vendor selling cheaper junk from I😅😅ndia
It being on its side wouldn't make it smoke it's fuel injected not carburetor
It might be a tooth off on its timing
How did u do ur throttle
Here’s a link to the how to video. Amazon 196cc Diesel Engine- How To Connect Throttle Cable and Idle On Go-kart
czcams.com/video/888ACF5Gji4/video.html
@@jwsbackyard6413 thx, as soon as I commented that. I went to ur channel and saw it😭
Wonder if it would make a good long tail motor for a 12 foot Jon boat?
Honestly the power of this thing is pretty lack luster. It’s been reliable though.
@jwsbackyard6413 this engine runs at half the RPM of a predator 212 (3600 vs 1800 rpm)
I bet with a properly sized pulley, it could pull pretty well.
You gotta bleed the line and use the compression release
Surprised there's no "Grow Prug" on this thing. 😂🈵🈵🈵
To be fair, how the hell are you going to get a glow plug without a seperate electrical system?
Any high detergent oil 🛢 10 30 will work
It’s a diesel 🎉
Ha,Ha ; you so funny G.I.!!! P.S. to shut off engine you'll have to cut off air to it ; my guess is that switch your using for a depress, maybe???
Air cooled mini diesel should get very very hot so "20W50 4Stroke" for gas bikes would be right....
Diesel oil if modern means no additives for DieseParticleFilter which should be extra wrong oil, 0W30 or something is complete trash in this.
Want to prolong the live of this little thing, add synthetic two stroke oil to diesel which is used for little two cycles, only a small spoon to the tank would help the injection pump as modern diesel is not as lubing as decades ago :-)
So we went backwards in our technology 🤔 that doesn't make sense lol
@@thegman4759 it doesn't make sense but it's better for the environment allegedly
You don't need to add anything to help the pump lol diesel has lubricating properties in it that's what I'm trying to say
If the engine was not packaged properly you can blame China. If it was, all I can say is, the warehouse sorting alone is brutal on shipments. Source: I work for UPS.
What oil did you use
It was some 10w30 motorcraft diesel oil
You should turbo it