Amazon 418cc Diesel Engine 10hp Unboxing First run
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2024
- After having some success with the smaller 196cc Chinese diesel I decided I wanted to try out the bigger one you can buy, it cost about 450 dollars, displaces 418cc and makes 10hp and 1,000 ft lbs of torque, no clue what we’re going to do with this yet so stay tuned! Open to ideas from y’all.
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Electric Start Conversion KIT L100 for YANMAR L100 10HP 186F for Diesel Engines Starter Motor
Nice! That looks correct found one link for around 200 for the kit including charging coil
That's a sweet engine! 418cc would make a beast of a generator. At 3600rpm it'd be perfect for a 60Hz direct-drive stator!
It’s not a tapered shaft. He’s got to belt drive it. Better run at 2500
@@boathemian7694
Right in the middle of its torque curve. Great call!
A 5 1/4 pulley driving a 7 1/2 pulley will get the genny to 3600 rpm with 2500 rpm at the motor. 1.44 is your factor.
@@kevdog58
I actually drive my alternator at 4800 rpm with 2400 rpm on the engine. I use a 1 inch wide Gilmer belt and pulley ( toothed) to reduce the friction losses.
If it's of Chinese origin then you may regret it after buying it?
I love these small diesels. I have two of the 418cc. You will need starter and ring gear. The flywheel it comes with doesn't have a ring gear. Use a 27mm socket and impact wrench to get the flywheel off. Then a 3-jaw gear puller. The flywheel has three holes in it to pull it off the shaft. The ring gear is about 10.5" diameter. Heat it with a propane torch and it'll drop right on. The starter is easy to mount. Connect your battery+ to the big threaded stud on the solenoid. Then with a screwdriver I touch that stud to the only other electrical connector on the solenoid and it will spin up. Note! You still need to press down the decomp lever, even with a starter! There is an ungodly amount of compression to fight against. What I like to do is let the starter turn the engine over 5 or 6 times, to get up to speed, then let go of the decomp so that on the 7th revolution, it resets the decomp, the exhaust valve closes and all that rotational kinetic energy slams the air into submission :)
I just ordered another ring gear and starter myself. Ring gear is $38 and starter is $94. I have one of these engines mounted on a rolling cart with a Harbor Freight 10KW generator head. Both have 1" shaft. Using dual sheave "B"-section pulleys. Using a little bit bigger diameter pulley on the engine than the generator head, so that the engine will run at 3000RPM and the generator at 3600RPM. As you've probably already noticed, increasing the engine RPM suddenly not only rolls coal but it will sound like it has a rod knock. It's normal. It's the sound of combustion you're hearing. At that moment, there's more fuel than there's available oxygen (hence the "coal") and it makes a distinct hammering sound.
These diesel engines are awesome. I run mine off of 3 parts "black diesel" (centrifuged filtered motor oil) and 1 part real diesel. Runs perfectly off of it. I was afraid it would smoke like hell but no difference as compared to real diesel. Have Fun!
Ok that’s awesome! This is what I like to hear thanks for the comment!
Have you by any chance captured any fuel efficiency data when running your generator? I saw somewhere these things are rated at about 6kw, not sure if that is the fuel input energy or if it can output a max of 6kw into a generator? I have long thought about trying to make a diesel generator, curious how well it actually works and how efficient it is.
You obviously need a really flat surface and act speedily to drop the the ring gear onto avoid a misaligned contraction with a fast cool down? I would imagine.
I have done lots of electronic starters on these. You will need a starter, ring gear and I also recommend to install the stator coil kit with the regulator. The coil and reg will charge the battery. Most don't come with the parts for electric start. Flywheel is bolted with a keyway.
How much power does the stator put out?
@@TACOMASRT5 It is 12volts to charge the starter battery. The fuse is a 15 amp so I would assume around 7 to 10 amps. I never did an amp draw on it but I can say it is definitely less then 15 amp. If you are buying get the kit but the kits I bought didn't come with the bolts so you will need to go to the hardware store and get some metric bolts. Also I highly recommend using lots of locktite on the flat button bolts as these vibrate loose and will damage the new stator.
I think that I (and many others) would rather just pay the extra 300 or so bucks and get one with the starter already installed
part numbers for pieces needed to electric start?
@@patwregan ebay is where I get my parts from. The most critical things are the ring gear size and the rotation direction of your motor. I believe the 170F to 192F use the same starter and same alternator. Ring gears 170F to 173F uses a 200mm×15mmW×5.5mmH. The 178F uses 222mmx15mmWx5.5mmH. The 186Fto192F uses 245mmx 18mmWx10mmH.
This channel will take over the world! Already a fan. Greetings from germany, (just wanted to let you know you made it across the pond)
For the electric start you will need the starter and ring gear as well as the stator, rectifier/regulator, and magnet drum these usually come in a kit search electric starter kit engine model... Mine is a 196fa (it's the 13hp variant)
Run smooth like sandpaper 😂
These basically need torn down, cleaned+properly torque on all the bolts, then greased and reassembled *first* if you really want them to last. Great guide on CZcams for the process.
Push decompresser, pull a couple of turns make sure you hear injection sound, release decompresser you're done with this now. . Pull cord slowly until you feel compression, nudge it just over compression, dont go too far, just until resistance eases. Return cord for a full pull, pull fast it will start everytime,
still waiting for one of you guys to bolt the freakin' motor to a board before you try to start it.
We have very similar engine (probably from the same factory) we bought it it around 2017 ( Model 186FA, Power 6.6 kw @ 3600 rpm, weight 48 kg). We only done oil change ones. Oil viscosity 5W-30 synthetic. Also it came with electric starter.
I have a small diesel engine my cousin installed for me on an old Troy built tiller… It’s has a lot of compression so it can be a bitch to start but once you get it pulled it normally starts and runs good! 👍
Gonna get me one as well so worth a subscription, but I'm likely getting a slightly bigger one.
starts super fast.
pull to resistance,push decompresor,pull hard. Must have accelator to on position
That’s cool bro, i would repace the other engine with the new one for a generator. But all up to you, love your work ❤👍🍻
got an old 310cc flat head Sears engine that's bored 30 over, takes a good 120 pounds to pull start it. 💪 got a 8kw generator that justifies rebuilding the old thing. just needs a sleeve on the connecting rod.
Heck yea that’s awesome !
@@Mikebuildss replaced the ignition coil just to see if it would run 4 years ago, think it might free rev to 7000rpm... but the connecting rod was very worn out and it somehow magically fixed its self. came of an old rototiller.
I have the 196cc and the 247cc. Thought about getting this one just for fun as well. Surprisingly well running engines considering the price.
Nice yea it’s nice as hell I love it
My son has a 10hp diesel like this one on his Sears Suburban, it's a bear to pull. He's already broken 2 strings on it and hasn't run more than an hour.
Ive thought about one of those.
I have a buch of used veg oil, from local fairgrounds and would probably quiet it down some running on it.
Best way of running veg oil is a heated 2 tank setup so when you shut it down or start up, its on pure diesel.
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Normally on a road engine i use the coolant to heat it up, so without coolant you would need to get a little creative.
Id figure 20 gal would run that thing for quite a long time.
I just bought this very engine and discovered I wanted the electric start as well.
There are kits on eBay
Imma go look hopefully not too expensive
Awesome. i been wondering about these. ive been seeing them.. Always was curious how well they would actually start, run.. thanks for the video..
I want to try it on many different contraptions so we’ll see how it holds up!
Looks like a good engine for a log splitter
That looks just like the yanmar engines on our emergency pumps on a towboat. Starts just like one too. This would be a fine candidate for a rhb 31 turbo😁. I cant help but wonder how many ponies could be had out of this little engine and transfer that to kw to run a fairly beefy generator.
Yes get the electric starter model 😊
I'd order that just to get the box it came in😊
Reminds me of the old tea chests...
loose leaf tea imported in big boxes and repackaged in the country of import in their own brand packaging...
with the sweepings off the floor used in tea bags!
Unfortunately, it's very cheap plywood and is easily damaged.
I think it is awesome, if I had one of those magna track dozers I would want to put a little diesel in it .
Yes mount it first and set to ideal
On a snowblower would be cool.
mini bike for sure!
Your right I want to!
Honda got lawsuits over emissions in the US and yet people can buy these things. Now, I would love to have one of these things. Also, if you could hold the compression release down while pulling it several times, it may be easier starting.
I don't know squat about diesels, but would an electric glow plug (if thats what it's called) help it start easier? I'd love to put one of these in a golf cart.
No room to fit one here.
Just keep the engine warm especially in winter...
and learn the correct starting procedure as per the owner's manual...
or wimp out and buy all the bits to convert it to electric start..
or make good life choices and pay up front for the factory starter with charging circuit built in?
When was the last time you bought a car without a starter?
I have used a couple of these and they are great motors for some stuff. They should be on something stationary that runs it on the governor. I have used them on Argos and the power is fine but smoke like crazy under load everything is black after. Maybe a guy could turn down the fuel screw so it has just a haze under load instead of pouring black soot. They will start in -30 easy have no idea how but they do. They are good on fuel if ran on the governor.
I have noticed some smoke, but I need to run it in some more, it’s kinda loud I’m sure my neighbors love me!
Kinda like my Still 660 chainsaw clone a b|+ch to start but once it started it’s a beast beast.
I'm wondering if can be adopted to a Lincoln 225 welder it be a match made in welder haven
channel idea. buy a $500 5.6gpm general pump and some pulleys from southside equipment plus a engine+pump mounting plate and put em together. You'll get a crap ton of views from the curious pressure wash community. We all build our own rigs and all have looked at diesel but nobody bit the bullet minus some giant kubota diesel builds.
That may be a good idea! And I’d have a nice pressure washer finally
Probably makes between 15-30 ft-lbs of torque, which as a replacement for a gx 390/420 series engine would be a massive upgrade.
wish they made them vertical shaft so i can have a diesel push mower lol
You'd want that self propelled with individual clutched rear wheels...
@@mudzy9820
@@mudzy9820 That is an awesome idea/ dream. I would buy that so fast! Would LOVE to build that kind of contraption.
Manufacturer website has a performance chart that shows a maximum 26 Nm, which converts to about 19 lb/ft of torque
@@byronmill 19ft-lbs is a lot in such a small package.
Log splitter. I like chainsaws! Just subscribed!
Awesome! Thank you!
Would like to see it on a dirt bike, like an old one with a blown engine. But it'd probably be too involved to hook up a transmission
I bought a generator with a 186fa that was blown up. Piston was cracked in two and head was effed. Rebuilt it on my coffee table with a bunch of aliexpress parts lol. Ran good when i tested it. No idea what im going to use it for as i scrapped the generator part
Mini bike!
If youve ever heard or seen a cycle car that is kind of what i would like to see. During war time in the 40s people used model Ts to build tractors called Doodlebugs that would be cool or maybe a Model T style truck cyclecar.
You need to set the accelerator to half open on cold starts
This is because diesels always run lean except at max RPM
there is no throttle body or throttle valve to limit the air like in a gasoline engine.
Are these same type of diesel engine people use in small sailing boat that can be use when there no wind or docking the boat?
Honestly im scared of the open ocean so i couldn't tell ya!
Definitely a great idea for a Coleman BT 200. Also would a great replacement for my little wonder leaf blower which has a Honda GX270 on it.
I live in the Philippines. Just bought one of these at a local store about 3 wks ago. 13,000 pesos ($236). Mine does not have the recoil starter. They are ok.
6:50 LOL Mount it to the bed of the truck behind you where you can crank it
Ooh...a 10hp diesel...NOYCE!!!!!
😮you need Glow Plug to light up the chamber
Maybe you can find a medium duty nat gas, gas, or propane genset with a blown engine on market place or craiglist with a blown engine. Not sure of the RPM of that thing but 15 KW or something be cool. The extra toque of the diesel might make up for the small size. Likely wishful thinking but might work.
motor is only rated 6.3 kw according to the data plate
Put a small super charger and a electric fan that blows air through cowel and small intercooler bit could make 30hp
like those videos its funny tune that engine or let it run on vegetable oi or used motor oil
For an application for this 10 HP diesel maybe something where it has a definite advantage over gasoline engine. I'd think the gas engine's higher power/weight ration would give it an advantage over the diesel in speed and handling for small vehicles (minibikes, go karts). Maybe a small tractor or bulldozer where heavy torque is required that would stall out a gas motor may be where this heavy 10HP diesel could really shine and surpass gas engines.
Diesel and equipment mechanic here. This little guy would make a great hydrostat drive engine for something smaller than a skid steer. A little hobby tractor or fat tire implement would be pretty neat.
@@Irishcream216Sounds good. Maybe you need to do a CZcams video on that. I can guarantee you at least 1 view.
I wish I was more confident in my availabilitys I really want to put this on the cub cadet with the drive shaft
Can’t get better if you don’t try!
I'd like to see one of these mounted on an old two wheel tractor, like a David Bradley.
I like that idea! I need to find one first, I do have a go kart I may do that first
Might have a different flywheel for the electric start model.
Yes sir I have to check and see! My arm can’t take pulling
Please, may I ask a question ?
Will this engine run without gluw plug ? That is, it only works by compression ?
Correct, no glow plug
@@Mikebuildss
Thanks, what the amazing technology.
If you're trying to start it in cold weather, maybe use a propane torch to heat the cylinder head. Never had to do it myself. Good luck.
@@goofypettiger I don't live in a very cold area so I don't need it ! I think the engine can be modified by placing a heat exchanger in the cylinder head to warm it so that it can exchange heat with hot air or hot water.
mount a pressure washer pump up to it, would be quick and easy.
nice engine, nice runner, I got two of the electric start version. I know a link that can help with a pull starting. I have the manuals for both these style and the yanmar service manual if you would like them.
Very interested!
I’d recommend you see if the flywheel has teeth for an electric starter on it because I see a spot for one
Good oil but man build that go kart or maybe get a cheap old ATV frame and mount it up!
I see a turbo in your future :)
With a little bit Brake cleaner in the Air cleaner it may start much easyer.
Can you add the link to this engine. Ive been looking for this size on amazon multiple times and havent found d anything.
I tired but it changes too much, just look up diesel engine on Amazon it will come up from a few different sellers
Can you Drill Start these? (With the ratchet for safety obviously!)
If the drill is powerful enough I’m sure you can!
Youave to mount to plate form some where to make easy starting.
I have one of these it just rips I just need to figure out why it smokes a little excessively
It’s a diesel. Congrats.
as cool as having a small diesel on a go kart seemed, once i looked into it, it wasn't really worth it cause 10 hp at 3600 rpm is 14.5 foot pounds, a predator 420 makes 13 hp at 3600 rpm which is almost 19 foot pounds. then when i looked for aftermarket parts the diesel was in practice non existent. if i had the money id buy one for the niche of it but anything i want to go fast i'll have to stick to gassers
Go Cart!
Definitely would be awesome with an AMR300 super charger.
Nice. Would you happen to know how many ft. pounds of torque?
At least 15-20
Build a hydraulic strandbeest walking vehicle with 8 or more legs. Wait until we have a new President so your project cost drops significantly 😊
I have no idea how!
That would make a neat super eco motorcycle, and with 1000ftlbs of torque it would pull a pretty high gear, so having only 10hp wouldn't be a problem.
Where do you get that crazy figure from? It's a naturally aspirated lo-tech engine, so it just has the torque as a gas engine with the same number of HP
Haha yes I want to do a mini bike build after doing some generator stuff with it, I plan on really using it on as many projects as I can think of!
You should throw it on you current generator to compar then make a diesel gokart
I bought one, was dropped in shipping, cracked the crankcase beyond repair. Did get a refund!
Sorry to hear! At least you got your money back
the throttle has to be open a little bit to start
That's the truth. I've been messing with these small diesels for a while and finally realized that they will never start if the throttle is at idle.
Will this even fit in a mini bike frame?
If you have very basic fabrication skills yes!
I want one 😊
Anyone have a link for the electric start model?
What for the love of all that’s good are you starting an engine rolling around on the ground?
I was too excited to bolt it down!
can you put a turbo on it?
turbo for diesels :)
@@TriDaddythx, editing my comment! :)
I need a 30hp diesel to run a grain auger. They make anything like that?
Kubota is where to look
Not really any cheapy Chinese options for that horsepower rating.
Better off looking for a decent second hand engine.
Water cooled your looking at Kubota, Yanmar, Mitsubishi, Perkins.
Air Cooled your looking at Lister, Hatz or Lombardi/Kohler
@@deezelfairybig old antiquated one lung lister would probably run it for the next 50 years lol
I looked on Alibaba once and saw that there are several diesels that are bigger. 190F, 192F, 195F, etc. The shipping cost for one engine is outrageous. I chatted with a customer service rep who said that our (United States) EPA is what keeps them from shipping the larger diesels. She said that they do not meet tier 4 (NOx and particulate emission for non-road diesel engines). She said if they could, they'd be shipping the heck out of them to us, because they know there is a market for them :)
@@juliogonzo2718 True, but I'm not aware of any single cylinder Listers that produce 30hp
Huge misconception and even Cummins has had this problem with their 6.7 15/40 is not a universal diesel engine oil. I run 10w40 in my 1.4 gas engine. Here’s the thing. The heavier the oil the harder it is for the engine to pump and get it into small and tight tolerances. At the rpm speed these spin and how small the components are, I have no idea but I would assume dropping to 10w40 or even 5w 40 would be a better oil for this application. Especially since it is not water cooled
Time for a turbo!
You had the fuel throttle way to open. To start it
Does it have a governor?
Yes!
Yeah, when you set the throttle position you're actually telling the governor what RPM to hold at.
Will that 10h diesel engine work on a ridding lawn mower?
If it’s a horizontal shaft connection then yes!
Thank you. Just wanted to know.
Cosby In a Can is your friend.
Seems the electric start is worth it
U should make this a mud motor for a boat
There’s no mud around here
@@Mikebuildss well i don’t use the mud lol thats just what it’s called like a longtail boat motor
@@Toobluejzs147 ahh I figured that’s what you meant, I think It would work well, could probably turn a very aggressive prop with all the torque it has.
Make the first diesel powered skate board.
It would be so heavy but im down to try it!
What do you think about starting this with a large impact wrench?
Not a impack, never use that only with a drill , 😊
It will be just fine..... until it starts.
Over running clutch can be bought to fit to a drill for starting small engines...
but you need a nut on the end of the crankshaft of the engine...with a socket to fit it on the end of the clutch.
You would still need to use the decompressor on the engine and hold it down to spin the flywheel up to a higher speed.....three hands would be good
Might as well have ordered an engine with a starter and charging circuit built in from new...
@@happycamper5900
you cant impact on a crankshaft without breaking something.
what do people have in their brains these days ?
Will this thing run on biodiesel?
I’m sure it will, I want to try used cooking oil and see if the exhaust will smell like French fries
@Mikebuildss hope it all works out well, with fuel prices being ridiculous, been looking into tdi swaps and alternative fuels... been thinking of ordering one of these as a test engine for learning how to make biodiesel.
Looks like my son
Repower a little pit bike with it.
Is it 2 or 4 cycle??
4 cycle
1,000 foot pounds baby
I know exactly what you should do with it. Send it to me in Detroit and watch me make a diesel powered mini single seater Kei Truck with hydraulics.
FYI...Most of us MOUNT THE ENGINE to something (before starting). No wonder you about killed yourself trying. Small engine manufacturers NEVER expect their engines to be used without proper mounting to SOMETHING, anything, lol.
I was too excited i just wanted to run it!
Turbodiesel minibike!
Yes! Now were talking
@@Mikebuildsshex yeah bro!!!!
What Number Of Oils ?....
I just rig up a drill motor with a socket on the crank shaft
You would need one big ass drill.
@@juliogonzo2718 yep. milwalkie hole hawg
@Telephony954 it may start or you may end up in a sling lol
You know you realey have to pull on the cord with both arms not with one arm. Y reale need the momentum to get over the kompression. and the seccound thin open the plate becource i gess the flywheel does not have teeth for a electric start so you need to change that too and if you whant the ting to recharge the starter battery you need a stator and a flywhell with magnets inside.