I DON'T want to do this ANYMORE! Dealing with Burnout
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Jay, you're just so enthusiastic about the hobby for us to even think you'd ever have burnout...but if you do, just chill coz we'll wait for you. Awesome video 😃😃
6 months ago: "hobby burnout is fake"
Today: "Dealing with hobby burnout"
Oof 😅
Touching up old models is a great way of getting you mind in the right space like using a technique you’ve learned since you painted them or using a new colour you’ve acquired
I found trying out new techniques and colours helps. Gets a bit tedious paiting everything grimdark all the time, so it's good to try neon cyberpunk colours etc
That's why I have some models from like 7 different armies lol. Definitely helps fight burnout if you have a bit of variety sometimes
Contrast paints are the only reason my orks got done, I totally agree with this
This is the reason I swapped from black legion to ultramarines.
I have just discovered a new category of miniature painter:
First we had the Brush Brand Wars.
Next we had the conflict of wet vs dry palette.
Then we got the black vs white primer aggression. The zenithal accords.
There were others, all well known. This video proves that there are others that we as a species hadn't considered before.
Here we have the, what I consider to be a rarer breed: the paint brush wiped on the sleeve connisuer.
I am one of the sane painters who keeps a piece of kitchen roll in front of myself, I contort into insane shapes to accommodate that piece of kitchen roll/paper.
Truly a revelation!
i use my thumbnail instead of hand/sleve as a micropallete that is super close to my brush. also licking and sucking the cleaned brush to get the moisture level correct.
@@Heafalore I'm a brush licker too mate, I have found that it's the best way to get a sharp tip on my brush.
I just take breaks. Also, having people to play with, playing a game i want to play helps motivate
7:50 the doctor before my prostate exam.
I wanna see you throw Nick across the table during one of the intermissions 😅
that would be hilarious!!
I can't wait to enter the slapstick Era of EoB
I swear I was expecting that exactly…
When you snapped that glove I was hoping and expecting a very subtle... "ouch" lol
Not even you could paint miniatures very well. You even have a friendly and very warm attitude and some nice words for people, who are stressed by their hobbies and don't blame anyone. You, are, amazing 💝
This video really helped me with my burn out. Dug out a ruin terrain piece and finished it up today. Got me motivated enough to paint another ruin and a crater afterwards. 👍
I suffered from the same thing many moons ago. i took an extended break a while back and then one day i decided to paint a model. My skills sucked but i enjoyed it. i went and visited my local store as i hadnt played 40k in a few iterations and went back to basics and played my first intro game in years. going back to the beginning really reminded me what it was i enjoyed about the hobby and ive spent the last few weeks painting up an unusual Necron army colour scheme and I'm actively looking for games in my area. enjoy the content so it will be sad to see you burn out and not pick it back up but take a while to remind you what it is that made the hobby for you. All the best!!
I’m kinda in the middle of a painting slump so I found a stranger things lego set I had in my closet that I never finished. So hopefully when I finish it I’ll feel like painting again
One of the biggest things I find helps with burnout is change. For a LONG time, all I painted was grimdark and a few years back hit some heavy burnout. But having moved at the time and no longer having a game shop easily accessible to play at, I decided to move away from 40K and look at some Solo games. I got Five Parsecs from Home and started up building and painting in a cyberpunk style. The bright colors and wild and massive variety of models really got me back in the flow of things. Since it's miniatures agnostic, I got to make whatever I wanted for the models, and really go crazy, either 3D printing or buying online any crazy thing that just looked cool. Then I got my hands on blacklight neon paint and holy crap. A WHOLE new animal. I had to figure out how the heck to even paint with the stuff and it really brought back the passion for painting again. Let me tell you, it's awesome to see a finished model, but it's SO much more awesome to see a finished model glow under a blacklight display like proper cyberpunk.
I was genuinely surprised how much of a difference the static grass made to the bases of the gryph hounds
I haven't picked up a paintbrush in well over a year. So, I'll give this a try.
Hi, Jay, I love your griffhounds, with the new style type you attached. The only one thing left to say, yes, I will paint my own now, with tiger stripes and the very cool sheme, too.
Thank you for making so interesting videos every week. I always look out for the new topics !!
Keep painting !!
One thing hat really helped me is a dedicated place to paint that is either always set up or fast to set up.
In my old home i always had to transform my working space to my hobby space, removing work related stuff, setting up paint material yadda yadda, that whole proess took 5-10 minutes and a lot of time i was "nah, i dont want to do all that to paint, im tired and i want to relax"
later on i invested in some storage options for brushes, colors etc and setting up a painting table anywhere in the house was a matter of 2 minutes.
this helped me A LOT to motivate myself painting after work.
Thanks for this video, I'm still trying to pull myself out of a sculpting burnout that's lasted years, it's good to see that burnout is way more common than I thought and that walking away for a bit is not only the right thing to do, but the healthy thing too.
i actually said "oh yeah" out loud when you painted the beak yellow haha i'm alone
When I'm feeling a bit burnt out I like to do terrain. Just slapping on base coats, washes and drybrushing with wild abandon. It's just a fun way to paint and on a big bit of terrain they come out looking great
I agree taking a break is the only solution that works for me. I go through phases where every spare minute of free time I'll dedicate to a painting project then a few weeks later its all gone. Thats me right now, 2 models to go in the Dominion Kruleboyz and I've lost the motivation. I'll be back and the models arent going anywhere, eventually the OCD kicks in and the love of painting returns!
Something else you can do when burning out but wanting to paint - learn to paint scenic background drop sheets, This way you can get that oldhammer feel for photo's and display of your models.
Glad to see you showing how even the best of painters need a break once in a while
Great work Jay! enjoyed the fresh take on getting out of the rut of not wanting to paint/start a new project.
Your videos always get me motivated thanks Jay!
Definitely changing up what you are painting help. I have been working on my Tyranids army and after painting 200+ models, I was feeling a burnout, so I changed up and went back to a squad of Reivers I never painted (only primed) and I got energized again. I also went back to detailing and basing some intercessors as well. When I was done, I was ready to go back and am in the process to finish the 30+ Tyranids I still have.
This is a great idea. I actually did something similar - magnetize some jump packs for my 1998 Death Company - that metal box didn't have them, so it was nice having a mini-project to just paint some black jump packs and put some magnets on them. It's not exactly relaxing, but it is like a "quick win" that takes only a fraction of the time and mental load that sometimes stops me from starting new things.
Those Genestealers look really good!! The colors are so vibrant and it really pops on screen. I imagine they look even better in person. Thanks for the great tips on dealing with burnout.
Loved this video! I always like to go for an “easy win” if I’m feeling burnt out, usually I’d go for picking a single model like a chaos cultist and just take that single model into completion to a good standard to get a feeling of accomplishment. But I never thought about revisiting old models to take them the extra step! I love that idea and that’s something I’m definitely going to be keeping in my back pocket for future hobby slumps!
That's why I like assembly...and that just adds more to the sea of gray backlog
Jay: GW, update these genestealers, they're sooooo old.
Me: ooh, I like those new genestealers, so much nicer than my 2nd ed/space hulk version
Thanks for making me feel old dude!
Watching you base those genestealers made me think about how the only mini I ever 'based' was a 2nd edition genestealer back in the 90s by painting the base green and glueing a twing to it.
It's all about habits. I try to put paint on a brush once a day. Task done. If i don't want to paint, i clean the brush and achieved my goal for the day.
But more often than not it results in 1-2 hours of painting.
Just found this channel a few weeks ago. This is awesome content.
Stay positive bruh. You're the best wargaming channel on the net.
You're a boss and a pleasure to watch, thanks
just wanna say your videos are top notch! keep up the good work!
HA! I thought I was the only one keeping a log of everything they painted over the year. I started doing it last year and barely got to around 400. I'm up to 609 so far this year, not counting terrain, and have a backlog of around 80 models left so far. I find it motivating to see just how much you have gotten done over the year. I am even keeping links to pictures to each of the models so I can reference it and see a timeline progression. Found it kind of fun to review the journey thus far.
Rodney you maniac. I'm on 8 models for the year.
@@GamingMediocrity it's not a competition, it's about enjoying yourself and that's why I keep doing it
@@rodneyr5266 I know man was only messing around.
your enthusiasm about the hobby has really just motivated me to paint again after a burnout. cant wait to get some goblin shamans painted up :)
Fantastic video as always Jay. Kudos.
Just found your videos recently. Love your style and enthusiasm! Keep up the great work! New sub :)
This is great advice. As a corollary, you can always add a little more detail to a terrain piece and it’s almost impossible to make them look worse.
The sequence at 3:32 is pure, fried gold, Jay. Great video too!
When I get a writer's block for drumming.. i just drum more but fully ignoring all convention.. i ignore time signatures, how I hold the sticks, where I hit plates/drums. And so on.
I'm still doing the thing that was bringing frustration especially since music = dinner.. but, throwing away all the established rules that I've learned makes things fun because it's just messing around.
Think back when you were like 6 and how you'd play with something incorrectly but still have a smile plastered on your face? Get in touch with that again.
That’s actually really good advice
@@redpilldiogenes4741 you never know where inspiration comes from.
When music is so structured to a point where songs bleed into each other.. if you want something unique you have to go unconventional to try and get new sounds and patterns.
It's partially responsible for our emperor of sand album and the sounds in it.
Such a good and motivating video. The genestealers look very impressive, highlights are so flashy.
After you prepped your tools/paints etc I could have sworn you were about to do a mad rap 😂 3:42
Love your videos. And you are a very wise man!
I still wonder why EoB still is under 100 K subs. Your content ist awesome and i love your engagement on the hobby itself.
Time to get some of those Retro models . Always make me smile.
Damn. I reached the "i dont want to paint anymore" stage when i first started the hobby :)
Lol, the primaris lieutenant remark got me 😅
Great advice! Thanks for the video.
Man I love this channel
332 minis? Jesus Christ, you are going hard! I have to pump up my numbers now 😬
Jay! You’re the best! The old intro was awesome and it’s finally back!
I usually take summers off from painting or any other projects. It's too hot, too busy and a great time to enjoy some other parts of life
7:50 you almost didn't keep a straight face 😁 I certainly didn't!!
So far I have two projects at different stages. Being able to jump between them helps keep things fresh. That and it's easy to do the "boring" stuff like scraping, filling, cluing, while watching shows.
Good advice start with something almost finished get a kick out of finishing it get some motivation going.
This is what my math teacher used to say solve one easy problem first just so you get into the mood and then you can tackle the harder problems too.
That Starship troopers game hiding in the background needs to be talked about ;)
Nice video. Well captured and cut and good context. Da boyz n I n dat git Grimbo sayz verrrrrryyyyyy gud job.Waaaaaghhh
I love the spread sheet idea! I wish I could manage my time better.
I find having a schedule of what I’m painting useful because especially when I am mass basecoating minis it helps
I haven't been in the mood to paint in about 6 months. I need to get inspired again
I was worried the cute space marine painting intro was replaced! So glad to see it :D
This has literally been me for the past week. I'm burned out and I think it has to do with starting commissions. Since than I haven't painted any of my models. And when I paint my own I feel guilty. Thanks for the vid. I appreciate the vid and your personality.
Jay, I have a suggestion that might make the gene stealers even creepier. If you paint the sculpted veins and / or freehand vein lines in dark "blood" color (ie: bluish claret for humans) and then, when it's dry, go over it with a thin coat of your flesh tone, it will add translucency to their skin.
This could be turned up to an 11 for a kill team by using a portable blacklight and glow paint.
One downside to building a mini army is that you pour your soul into completing a largely uniform collection that one can overlook tiny (literally tiny) details that can make the models truly pop.
Is it just me, or did it almost sound like Jay was about to start rapping after the beat dropped and he started talking after the segue?!
now that! would be a pretty fun video - Jay rapping his voiceover, haha!! great vid!
👍
this is one of the best painting channels on the platform
Wow, those Gryph-Hounds came out amazing!
I sort of go extreme when I get burnout. I'll take weeks off and just go to another hobby; usually board games or video games. Then I'll get that painting itch again and that will be all I do for a few months. I'm trying to paint every day for the foreseeable future, so we'll see how that goes. These tips are great. I definitely have unfinished minis on the backburner that will help keep me going.
Same here. Its usually painting for a couple of weeks/montgs followed by movie/tv show binges followed by Nintendo switch binges.
Repeat ad nauseum.
I've just come to accept this :)
Your videos give me motivation to paint, really. Thank you so much.
For more interest, I decided to paint each half of Skitarii Vanguard set in different fractions of Adeptus Mechanicus. In the future I will try to collect and paint all the factions of good guys, its cool!
Funny, it’s the building/converting that I enjoy. The painting is the chore.
The buying too much at once thing is definitely real. Had three very large boxes of Legion stuff show up all at once and don't even want to look at them after assembling two units. It's all the soft plastic mold line scrapping that just wears me down in a hurry. I know I shouldn't worry so much on the rank and file and just assemble them but I can't help it.
Thank you for this I watched another video about it and it was from this high school art teacher that was saying that burn out and artists block are the same thing and suggested pushing your art like any teacher would say 😑
Great video, you should do more of these 👍
just got back into painting my stormcast, took a break as lack any want to paint. since weather turn crap, cant do much outside ended puling them out and started painting again. Also having friend getting more into warhammer also help spark it as now have friends to play with even paint with.
Hobbyist tip for the static grass... after applying it, gently tap off the access and gently blow on it. This way more of the grass will stand upright and wont look squashed on.
Nice Parrot dogs, you are right that sometimes you hit a wall and you just need to clear the plate and come back at it when you are ready... Solid advice there (As I sit here painting a block of 40 swordsmen haha)
Truckasaurus! Sunday, Sunday!, SUNDAY! (also Saturday)
Lol and here I am needing to start painting. Did a hell of a job the last year base coating and assembling roughly four or five companies worth of minis. But now it's time to maybe figure out a painting schedule.
Thanks man! I really like these tips! I just wish I could make more time for painting.
Really enjoyed this vid,
I think it would make a great weekly video, touching up old models, no pressure.
And would be a nice way of slowly showing off your collection to the viewers.
Good to see those gryf hounds finally get some paint. I remember you rubbing Nicks nose in it when he thought he had done so well. TBF, he did a great job.
I dunno why but the apron just makes it. good look. and yup i keep going back to my morky stompy boy and adding more bits or battle damage
When I suffer burnout, I find the solution is buying fancy new paints that I definitely need and that will totally turn into instant skill and enthusiasm. Wait, no, that never works (yet I still do it).
Best cure for burnout I discovered...taking some few pieces, like the track units for a leman Russ...and completely kitbashing one of the many variants using nothing but plasticard. In my case? Currently working on a Collosus Bombard.
I have to agree. Forcing to paint is bad idea. Doing something else: playing video games, reading, maybe even playing wargame. That last step especially can help with motivation. Even more when that local tournament is approaching.
Lastly: pick up a project you know you won't finish. Single mini. Perhaps a 3d print of a video game character that you like. Slap on some paint and see where that leads you. Even better if character has simple desing. Like pokemon or something similar. Then you can just use basecoats and call it done... or add some shading... and blends... and OSL... aaaand you've just painted a mini!
I often struggle to push past the "ugly phase" and many of my projects are stuck at that phase.
Doing other things is important too! I draw and paint as my main hobby and as work (im an animator) i like to paint minis in my soare time as a form of relaxation. You dont have to constantly be on your hobby, watch a movie or show, read a book, take a walk outside or even a nap! Don’t feel like you have to do your hobby or it’ll become an unenjoyable chore!
Good video, topic to cover think everyone will experience this :)
Me: taking a break
Pile of shame: AM I A JOKE TO YOU
EonOfBatlle: I don't really feel like painting.
Me staring at my half finished models
I build when I don't feel like painting, and I paint when I get tired of building. I haven't painted in a month, but I've gotten a lot built and primed, mostly because I rattle can prime and cold weather is approaching where I live, so I have a little time left before whatever I have primed is what I get to paint in the winter.
Being a new 40k player creating a routine of various activities helps a lot. Some painting, building, base focus, or just watching tutorial vids. I also play SWTOR and MHRise, and watch anime and toku series, work helps too of course
Yes!!! Please more GSC content! Also is there a way to see all of Jays armies?
Yeah the best thing to do is to have a small break or deal with other parts of the hobby. My saving grace was doing a little terrain.
4:40 jay proving he is chaotic neutral by wiping his brush on his shirt rather than on a paper towel or in his mouth
Yeah, that Ork combat patrol packaging wrap isn’t going to take itself off….. lol
Super video, bro 👍
I was burnt out a few weeks ago so I just stopped for a while. Came back and started painting an army of black templars and mid winter mini style sandstone necrons. Very happy with it. Maybe try paint a kill team if different coloured necrons. It’s what I do when I’m fed up with my main armies colour scheme for space marines at least. Or just take a break. We won’t mind lol
Tl;dr take a brake man we can wait it’s better than you killing the hobby for yourself lol