The Best Rustoleum Mixing Ratio for Amazing Results! (Tested & Proven)
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2020
- My Best tips and tricks to paint Rustoleum and the best mixing ratio Explained!
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I painted my g35 coupe with high performance gloss black 4 parts paint 3 parts acetone and a table spoon of hardener.it came out amazing
I did the 2:1 with the hardener from tractor supply my paint job came out amazing thanks for doing the research bro much appreciated
Thx amigo , thx for your teaching. Love the simplicity
JON Gergeceff no problem. Thanks for watching. Subscribe to support channel.
3/1 - got it! Thanks for sharing your efforts!
You welcome. Hope your project comes out good!
Thanks for the comparison. Great work.
Some tips for thinners. Naptha and Xylene are better options than mineral spirits. They dry faster and have stronger solvent strength. Acetone reduces the rust inhibitive properties of alkyd enamel. As a rule of thumb, the more thinner used the more the film coating performance will be reduced. There is debate on the level of impact of sheen for each. Comparing mineral spirits, naphtha, xylene and acetone would make a great video topic.
Thanks for that info!
+1 For naptha in terms of wetting out/dry time/cost/pot life ratio...
Its the best reducer I have found for shooting outdoors in my climate with rustoleum "pro" from the box stores.
I only shoot mineral spirits when Im out of Naptha or its really hot out and I cant get Naptha to wet out properly.
Outstanding info !!!!
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I'll have to give 3:1 a try. I watched another video where he said 4:3:1 which is pretty close to 1:1 and I had runs all over the freaking place. I agree with you that if your a beginner you definitely will have a hard time spraying 1:1
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Amazing!!!
Thanks!
Good information
Thanks!
You have pretty good aim!
Thanks!
Yes I can see that one side of the bumper was yellow but the other side was yellow. lol
When you were painting that black You were loading it on and I could see runs coming! You're getting it figured out though. You've come a long way.
yes i made a video showing clips when i was getting runs and what not!
I would like to think im getting a little better, heck learning alot from mistakes and what not!
You saw it all from the beginning! : D
Hey Kid, thanks for the great contents in your videos. How long would you suggest to wait before applying clear coat on a car rustoleum paint job?
I would wait a good 2 weeks to be safe.
@@BulliKid thanks, I appreciate it.
Great video an information thank you. Was wonder what color rustoleum yellow did you use I clicked the link for the paint but it's too old thanks in advance
I believe it started with”sun” I probably have other videos with my using it from the can
I think I am gonna try your 2:1 method with the paint thinner/mineral spirits as a reducer. With Acetone my paint jobs always come out looking semi-gloss or matte with the HF paint gun. Using a hardener helps but the glossy sheen still looks... muted.
Im doing rustoleum on a model T because it's the closest to the original black from 100 years ago. The paint wasn't show quality then and I don't expect this to be either. Do you ever mix reducer with half increments ? Like 3: 1.5 ??
2:1 it is...thx for the insight
Anytime!
What air pressure you use ?
You should have ran the paint the whole way off the panel then you can dab the run off with a clean rag it will smooth itself out and if you run it the whole way off it's at the bottom or under side off a panel saves a ton of sanding time trust me
Darrick Wise good advice!
Hi there, im planning to paint a car next week. Everything's in place: compressor, hpvl gun, paint, plastic tarps homemade garage, orbital sander, etc. Im wondering which ratio to use and should I thin my paint with acetone with outdoor temps around 10°C ? I plan to do 4:2:1 with catalytic hardener. Not sure about priming the car since its an old 07 civic with clearcoat defects. Im opened to Xylene but its expensive compared to acetone. Mineral spirit and lacquer thinner are quite affordable tho~
I would prime it personally. And then stick with 4:3 imo. Never used hardener so not sure how it will effect the 4:2 ratio.
Haha I have 07 civic so I know about the paint fade issues.
@@BulliKid oh thanks, which primer would you recommend before going for the base coat ? I'll try one pannel with 4:3 without the hardener and another one with 4:2:1. I also have a japan dryer bottle lying around so I'll make sure to watch your other video to check the result and drying time (from your experience) :)
Have you ever tried the water based Rustoleum? I am working on some project now and was wondering would it be easier to use it? dry faster but not sure about the durability.
Hmm I didn’t know they offered one water based! Would help dry times and lower the contamination in the paint for sure.
@@BulliKid It is the line names Painter's touch ultra cover. I used the spray cans but now I am thinking about getting the 1 quart and use a gun. I am spraying ABS plastics for a motorcycle, not body metal, just thinking.
Is there a good clear you can put on rust oleum
There are many good clears out there.
Do you let the paint and thinner sit for any set time before you spray ??
@@jagerk9 no
Do you have to let the mixed paint sit in the cup for any set time before you paint ??
@@jagerk9 just mix and ready to go
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I must’ve missed it but I can’t find where you specify the ratios. 2 to 1 what? 2 parts paint or mineral spirits? I’m assuming each increase in number is the paint? Always keeping acetone 1 part?
It’s paint to thinner.
What did you cut the paint tooth though? Acetone? Mineral spirits? What? Thanks
I used both before. I prefer acetone.
try naptha instead of mineral spirits, i painted an old car 1:1 with naptha and that what i always reduce rusto with. see if you like it better than mineral spirits. it also speeds up try time and doesnt require 1 hr between coats, you can do like 15-20 mins between coats depending on how thick your spraying.
that probably would help painting oi l based paint. i wonder if it effects the finish of the paint
@@BulliKid car looked good for years I mean it wasn't a show car gloss but was pretty decent and I never buffed it or anything. Grab a test panel and try it out
+1 For Naptha... 1:1 or 4:3 depending on temp and paint color... (some are Rustomelum colors/ batches are thinner then others) its the best performance for my climate and painting style.
I have had to mix some new batches of Rustolum "Light Machine Gray" 3:1 with Naptha b/c 4 of the cans I got were thinner then the typical batches of Gloss black / Smoke Gray/ Safety Red I normally get. Not sure if it was just that batch but all 4 cans were "thin" compaired to the recent batches of Gloss black bought at the same time.
Did you use japan dry also or just the naptha?
I believe acetone or mineral spirits only.
Sorry typo.... how hardener did you add to the 3:1 ratio?
So I don’t use hardener. If I was going to use it I would start with a cap full most likely.
Ok, thanks
hey bulli kid how long should you wait before you can wet sand and buff?
I would wait 2 weeks to be safe.
I done a mix ratio of 4:2:1 and 2 caps of Japan drier and the paint turned out great except one thing it likes to chip I didn’t spray clear coat on it that could be the reason why it chipped?
Did you spray a plastic piece
No I sprayed a 250R frame
Also I didn’t use acetone I used majic reducer maybe it’s the same as acetone not sure,
Did you use primer?
Yeah I used primer but I didn’t spray the primer out of my gun just straight out of the can then prepped it before I sprayed the base coat down
I would go 2/1
How much harder did you add to the 3:1 ratio?
I had seen that he commented just one capful of hardener
Correct.
Thanks
how many days did you wait for before buffing, please?
About 5 days!
More is better.
@@BulliKid thanks; acetone or mineral spirit? or others? thanks
Mineral spirits will flow out better. Smoother paint. But acetone will cure faster and you can get the job done faster.
Either way it’s tricky to get a smooth finish without runs.
Thinned or not , rust-oleum takes 24hrs between coats 3 parts paint 1 part Acetone I use this to paint chassis's , 2 coats 24 hours apart.
That would take forever. Would you keep the extra paint in the gun or just make a new batch in 24 hrs
I routinely spray 3-4 light coats Rustoleum in 2-3 hours using Naptha as reducer on warm to hot semi- humid days. It doesn't take 24hours and Naptha flows and wets out much better then acetone, almost as well as mineral spirits, (but drys much faster) and seems to mix with rustoleum easier (not quite as well as acetone but better) then mineral spirits.
An argument could be made that after 24 hours you really should sand before shooting the next coat. Acetone will soften the surface after 24hours but the 2nd coat will not key into the 1st coat like shooting over a tacky/uncured 1st coat.
I have achieved the best result with rustoleum from a durability/looks perspective by shooting multiple (3-4) light coats 30-45 min apart using Naptha.
Enamel hardener also helps but its a bit hard to come by at times and I only use it when I need to get a lot of parts painted and back into service very quickly.
Thanks for your feedback and experience.
Mineral spirits vs acetone
What air pressure was you using?
Around 30-32
8-2-1. Paint-acetone-hardner
Thanks! Cheers!
Need a wider spray pattern.
I agree.
try 4-2-1 you may get better results
Quick question. Wouldn’t 2-1 be the same as 4-2? May be a stupid question but I always thoughts it’s still half of the first number so 2-1 4-2 6-3 is all the same ratio?
@@BulliKid probably, but you add 1 part catalyst or hardner been told that is even better yet
Ok. Yes hardener will help speed things up and make a stronger bond. Never tried it.
wow. so bad. so much worth it to buy proper auto paint and get it right the first time.
Don't use acetone! It will dry with less shine to it. Paint Thinner is for thinning paint. Acetone is for stripping off paint and is used specifically for that in the nail polishing industry. The women know this well. 1:1 is to thin it runs and bleeds thru not giving good coverage. I can see it in your video! You refer to it as vivid color, it is bleeding thru because it is to thin and bleeding thru to the background color. What pressure are you setting at the gun? You should experiment with that to flow it out a little better. The paint breaks down more with higher pressure giving you better atomization which in return gives you a smoother finish. But if you go to high, you have many other problems you will run into so go up a little at a time until you don't see any better results. Also, check the specs on the gun, you don't want to blow out or past seals in it either! If you really want a decent finish, get a better gun at this point, now that you have a little experience, use good materials and a good gun that will atomize better, then you have a chance at a nice finish when you are done. Good luck! Take care and God bless you all! David
thanks for the comment!
Bleeding through got yah! thats exactly it!
Better Gun and dedicated paint with a paint booth will make all the difference, thanks for watching god bless
@AICS USA Gallon can of rustoleum primer says on the label to use only Acetone for thinning. Not so crazy I guess if they even say so. It's a valid thinner. I am using it for a large client project of outdoor steel planters. I don't need to thin since I am rolling on intentially for texture.
@@photonashville I am aware of what it says about using acetone with primer. If you do your research you will understand what I said better. That would not be the case for painting cars with a spray gun. Acetone will leave a more dull finish compared to paint thinner! I have a few decades of experience doing custom paintwork on cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles, etc. Thanks! Good luck with your project! Take care and God bless!
@@photonashville They tell you to use acetone because it is VOC exempt.