Great videos, and great voice too. Great locations, brings back memories. I'm an 80 yr old disabled Vet that can't go out anymore. This is really good for me. Thanks a bunch!
I bought one of these a month ago and it is one of the most accurate and fun rifle to shoot! Not to mention that the ammunition is readily available and cheap. out of the shooting I've done so far I prefer the 20 grain over the 25 grain bullet. If you get a chance buy this gun with a heavy barrel put a bipod on it you're good to go.
@Jb Sports - Asked and answered in the comments below: "Most of the ground squirrels in this video were in the 75 to 175 yard range. The ones in the brush were around 100 yards, with the one in the thick brush at 5:36 being only about 70 yards. Part Two will be up in a couple of days and it includes shots on prairie dogs that averaged 225 yards and the far shot of 359 yards!" - Eric
Thanks Eric. 17 HMR costs £12.50p for 50 up to £14 per fifty depending on make. So it is actually dearer in dollar terms but roughly one pound sterling for every dollar. I have an idea now what it might cost. Thanks for the prompt reply. Cheers!
Finally seen year video , I have the same rifle and like your new stock , been wanting to change mine but don’t have contact info to have someone to change it for me .. but good video thanks
Nice video and great commentary. My only issues with the .17 WSM is the consistency of the ammo. In the beginning I seemed to always have 1 or 2 flyers in a 5 shot group. What I'm doing now is weighing each cartridge and shooting the collective average rounds when punching paper or shooting varmints. 5 shot groups are averaging, off the bench at 100 yards, in the .035" to .045" range consistently. I've also had good results with the 25gr rounds on coyotes under 100 yards. Head shots only. Once again, nice review. Good Shooting.
Thanks Will! If you get a chance to shoot any of the new ammunition, including the Federal American Eagle branded ammo, you may see a marked difference. I was shooting it over the last couple of days and had great results. - Eric
gotta say your channel is by faaaaarrrrrr my favorite hunting vids to watch, no question! I'm getting ready to pick up a B mag with the SS heavy barrel and syn stock, and will probably replace it with a boyds down the road.. anyways, i've seen your review on the Winchester 15gr ntx with a DETAILED accuracy report with an avg group of .5005, and you've stated your B mag is "on" in the videos where you're using Winchester 20gr and/or 25gr, so what accuracy in *detail* (at 100yds) did the 20's and 25's do out of your heavy barrel B mag??
I am going off memory, because I ditched a lot of my old targets that I kept before my move to Idaho, but it was below 0.75" at 100 yards consistently with the 20 grain AE ammo (based off my old notes). I don't use the 25 grain bullets, so I don't have any info on the accuracy for those.
Thanks for the kind words, we try to do our best. You will find a lot of information online on more recently built B.MAG rifles, which will give you more of an idea of what other folks are seeing as well. I hope this helps!
precisely the info i was looking for sir, thank you! and one more question.. how do i get a job with varminter?? lol.. seems awesome doing reviews, field testing, etc, but i know theres a LOT you do that isnt seen either
We are actually changing our entire business model to bring in revenue from sources other than Google ads. However, we only have a small "staff" of folks at this time and are trying to stay that way. In the near future, we will be putting out requests for guest writers (with video) and we are going to try to do a revenue sharing plan, depending on how those individual articles/video perform. Otherwise, it is definitely a job, I just get to shoot a lot. ;-)
Awesome I bee buying 17 win super mag ammo.at walmart cuz I have intentions to get a savage and after seeing the boyds stock u put on it and how it performed I'll definitely be getting it now. Keep up the great videos
At what range is the average for these great shots ? These varmints really do hide well, and I noticed too, that the bird hardly moved when you shot the squirrel at about the 6:28 minute spot in the video. Amazing ! Thanks for the video...now I'm waiting for part 2. Good shooting too.
Most of the ground squirrels in this video were in the 75 to 175 yard range. The ones in the brush were around 100 yards, with the one in the thick brush at 5:36 being only about 70 yards. Part Two will be up in a couple of days and it includes shots on prairie dogs that averaged 225 yards and the far shot of 359 yards! - Thanks for the kind words! - Eric
***** Hullo Eric, I have a question. I know that for hunting prairie dogs all day long there are a lot of fantastic rifles and calibers; but personally I am focused on the following , 1) new Savage B.MAG "Target" .17 WSM 2) CZ 455 Varmint .17 HMR 3) new Ruger AR556 .223 Rem. ( this one because it is very versatile). Please, what would you choose among these? Thank you very much :)
I may not have any more of those, but hit our site at Varminter.com and send me a message through the "Contact Us" link with your mailing info and I'll get one of what I have to you.
Why is the barrel offset in the stock? I have a 17 HMR with the laminated thumb hole stock and it's quite centered. No need to "glass" my stock/barrel. Good shooting BTW. My 17 Savage A17 has the exact same stock.
What is the point of a heavy barrel when those stupid grooves are machined into the barrel at the action. Those grooves just serve to make the barrel less rigid at that point.
We're all the kills with the barrel jacked to the left in the synthetic stock? I'm wanting to buy this gun in stainless with the heavy barrel but every gun I've looked at the barrel is not free floated at all. Just curious if you sighted it in a nod hunted with the stock messed up like it was in the photos at the end of this video. Any feedback would help me out
Yes. I shot the rifle as received from the factory, other than a good cleaning and a test to make sure everything was tight. My HBSS B.MAG had the same issue, but shoots VERY well with the right ammo.
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me if the groups were good with the synthetic stock? At least your killing dogs at a distance.. did the Boyd’s improve accuracy much. Also which Burris scope mounts did you install? Medium or high height?
Check out the two videos linked on this page: www.varminter.com/savage-b-mag-heavy-barrel-stainless-in-17wsm-review-and-hunt-report-videos/ - I believe they were medium (it's been a while and they are still on there).
+Rod Mac - Over here, it is about $2.00 more per #50 box than .17HMR ammunition. I can get the 17WSM ammo for as low as $12.75 a box, and 17HMR ammo for around $10.00 a box.
Hi Eric, austin here again, I got some ammo(25gr) have been able shoot it after free floating the stock and geez can it shoot! Sometimes... I was shooting some groups off a sand bag and the first 3 shots were about 2 inches apart. 2nd group was a little better at 1 inch.(this was all at 100 yards) 3rd group was 5 shots at 1/2 inch! I was flabbergasted but all the groups after that except for one more were 1.5-2.5 inch groups which isn't within my standard. But I'm stumped, what could be the problem? Any suggestions?
Hi Austin. Did you pull it from the stock and remount it in the stock? I do this to every new rifle I have that may not shoot as well as I expect. I will play with the torque of the bolts that mount it to the barreled action, until I find the sweet spot. I had to do that to my original thin barreled B.MAG and ended up with very good results. Also, have you tried any of the 20 grain ammo? Savage recently changed the twist rate of their new B.MAG barrels to 1:8". From what I understand, this was done to help stabilize the heavier bullets. I am in Las Vegas for the SHOT Show, so my replies may be delayed! - Eric
Varminter Magazine Thx for the tips. My HBSS Bmag came with the boyd Thumbhole stock and my groups were ok at best. I phoned savage after watching your video and reading the comments and they said as per there FAQ that any rimfire rifle in any stock should be torqued to 15 ft lbs. Mine was at 60 in. Lbs. I will try it and let you know if it improves. They said to send it to them if this doesn’t help. Also wonder if you still like the BSA with 17wsm reticle. Considering that or a used bushnell 2.5-16x50 perhaps. Update Tried 15in lbs and got a 2-1/8 th group Tried 25 in lbs and got 2 inch group Tried 35 in. Lbs and got a 1 inch group Will try to fine tune it.🤞 All 5 shot groups
Nice video, I'm thinking of selling my sako quad in 17hmr and 22 mag for a 17wsm or a 17 hornet 🐝, now used to have a CZ in 22 hornet I was told that these 17 wsm have the same energy as the 22 hornet 🐝 with a 35 vmax round at 200 yrds. Plus I am a reloader my next rifle up from this is a 220 swift , lwill be shooting red fox and rabbits , which would you recommend 17 wsm or 17 hornet 🐝 maximum distance on rabbits and fox 300 yards atvb steve all advice very welcome
Hi Steve. Because you may have some opportunities to shoot fox passed 200 yards, I would personally choose the 17 Hornet. It is a very accurate round, and the added energy at 200-300 yards will be needed to make a humane kill on the bigger varmints. I have a CZ 527 in 17 Hornet, and it is the most accurate production rifle I own (with factory loads). I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Hey Eric, we were lucky enough to hold out till the stainless heavy barrel b mag came out. The gun shoots average, but throws the "fliers" that everyone associates with the garbage factory stock. I also have looked at the boyd's featherweight stock and was wondering if there was fitting required when you put the rifle in that stock. Also how was the accuracy after the stock? It seems like you may have gotten one of the good ones right off bat. Its a shame these rifles are troublesome considering the capabilities of this round as you have demonstrated. We have a 93 in .17 HMR and that is a tac driver so I am hoping to make this rifle shoot similarly. So just if you could give some tips or pointers on that boyd's featherweight stock, I would greatly appreciate it.
Hi Calvin. My Boyds did not fit well when I got it, so it took some in-letting of my own with a Dremel. I took a bit out of the magazine well, a small amount underneath the safety and added a shim over the front screw that attaches the stock to the receiver. However, I have heard that the more recent stocks have been a bit better fit. My rifle was more accurate with the plastic stock, but I am not done with adjusting the Boyd's stock yet to make a comparison. Some folks have added a heavy rubber strip in front of the receiver, under the barrel. I will probably end up doing something like that in order to really snug the action into the stock. Otherwise, it is going to be an entire bedding job to get it where I want it. I hope this helps! - Eric
I am tempted to get a 17 wsm myself. Since I live in Germany, I don't have a lot of sources to get me one of these rifles. Ammo is also scarce. Would you say that the 17 wsm is worth it when compared to the 17 hmr? I would use it for small game like red fox, raccoon, nutria, crows and pigeons up to 150-200 yds.
the scope that you r useing i think you said it was a 6-24- what is the last part on the scope 42 or bigger and does it have mil dots and is it called BSA. - and r they a good clear scope.. i use centerpoint scope. but cant find a 6-24-42. in center point..
+Mark Moffitt - Hi Mark. It is the BSA 17 Super Mag scope, in 6-24x44mm. After using it, and reading some of the other reviews out there, I would lean towards the 4.5-14x44. The 6-24 is decent up to about 16 power, but I don't normally go much higher than that. I did run into an issue, when the elevation turret became unresponsive. Either way, it is a $100 scope, so understand the limitations on a scope priced that low.
I actually like both about the same. The BMag is lighter, and the stocks on the Savage give a better cheek weld (I have the thin barrel, and a heavy barrel with a Boyd's thumbhole stock). The Ruger magazine is easier to load, and the rifle feels better due to it being more of a higher end rifle. I hope this helps!
It's now the end of 2023, I bought a 17WSM b-B-MAG About 5 years ago and I've had to send it back to them three times, and now with what they send me It's still fucked up. I'll never buy from Savage again. All that wasted AMMO, savage cost me a lot and I can't even shoot the gun.
+Chris Crabtree - None really. I've shot so many guns with quirky actions, safeties, etc, that I don't really notice it anymore. I stick to the rule of treating every gun like it is loaded, and pointed in a safe direction, so I don't really have any concerns. I've not had any issues with mine going off either.
Yes, I did. I had to remove a lot in the magazine well in order for the magazine to sit properly and "click" in. Since ours was one of the newest ones out of Boyds, I knew it would need some work (just not as much as I ended up doing).
I didn't have any problems. It shoots pretty good still. Check out the review I did on the lead free 17WSM ammo. This rifle ended up being the most accurate using that ammo.
What ranges were you shooting? Did you have any misses or flyers? Did you have any hits that didn't kill? Not a very helpful video - entertaining but not helpful. I'm shooting foxes between the eyes at 140yds with my 17HMR and hares through the head at the same range. Longest shot on a fox is 200yds. Where's the data on this rifle? Is it capable of the same or better?
@@varmintermagazine between the 5 and 9 freeways. Do you know how much area is between the 5 and 99 freeways? 5 and 99 run almost parallel to each other from Sacramento to Bakersfield. Thats about 275 linear miles. The actual area is much bigger. So excuse me, but I must beg the question. Where between 5 and 99?
brian dusick - I don't know if the medium will work. My scope is really low and almost touches the bolt when ejecting a round. Try it, but you may need to change over to the high. - Eric
Finally! Truly this rifle can be defined Gen.2. This video is very clear: Savage has also modified the bolt action, I hope this should be less stiff than the previous one. With the Boyd stock it is a masterpiece of contemporary Fine Arts. Now, my only ramaining doubts concern the consistency of .17 WSM ( see the following reviews czcams.com/video/QDPrcVAJF5o/video.html czcams.com/video/CfHhlexspfc/video.html ) and the real availability in the market of this kind of ammo for a cheap price. Eric, regarding Part 2, I hope to see in the Boyd stock action, thank you.
Savage has made some changes and continue to try and improve upon what they have. There will be more information on that when Part Two is released this coming Tuesday. It won't include any video with the Boyds stock, as all of this was filmed from July 2014, to September 2014. The second video will also speak about the new B.MAGs that are soon to be available from the factory. - Thanks! Eric
guerrierodelgiaguaro - Savage actually just put their new B.MAG "Target" rifle up on their website, here: www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/B.MagTarget - Thanks! Eric
***** Yep! That sculpture for just 566 bucks (and surely even less on the street) it is hard to believe :) I am drooling. Eric, what do you think , how much weight does the laminated stock add? The Model: B.Mag- Stainless Heavy Barrel with polymer stock is just 5 lbs.
I am wont to get the 17 wsm savage today.the date is 12-22-15. I heard there has ben a recall on the savage. 17 wsm. Is this true or not. wally world is tell me this but 30 miles to the next wally world they got them in stock. Please let me no as fast as you can. be for i get it to day 12-22-15. time is 651.AM leaving at 830. AM to go get this gun. And do wont to buy something that has a recall on it...
+Mark Moffitt - The recall covers the rear cap behind the bolt on the B.MAG rifles. On some rifles, it is catching the safety, and pulling it off safety. If the rifle you are looking at needs the recall, you just need to fill in some info on their site, and they will send you a kit to change it out. There is more information here: www.varminter.com/savage-arms-issues-recall-notice-on-17wsm-b-mag-rifle-bolts/ - The rifle in this video is the Savage B.MAG SKU #96915.
I can't remember, and my notes are tucked away, but I typically shoot from 75 to 200+ yards for videos. The second part of this video shows me shooting a prairie dog at 359 yards, on video.
+Jason Mantovani - Hi Jason. Yes, Franklin Armory makes an AR15 style rifle in this cartridge (as well as uppers to build your own), and Volquartsen makes one as well. The 17HMR comes in a few semiautos now. Take a look through the videos on this channel, and you will see the videos on the Savage A17 in 17HMR.
You quoted, "Gee man your so good". No where in this video does anyone say that. You also spelled "your" wrong. It should be spelled "you're", for "you are". Second language, or not, there is no excuse for poor spelling, no punctuation and poor grammar. Please correct those issues before submitting any future comments.
have know problem with hunting for food. but to kill for sport and not eat the animal u killed is sad. anyone shooting and killing a animal just to kill it. is borderline serial killer.
Hi Charles. Please send me your mailing address, and I would be happy to send you some of the ground squirrels I shoot for your consumption. Btw, I am always astonished by people who complain about varmint hunters shooting vermin, but benefit from the fact that we do. Your beef, milk, fruit and vegetable prices are all affected by the amount of crop-loss the farmer has. By shooting the ground squirrels, etc, the farmer's crops produce more fruit and prices can stay lower. However, if the farmer loses much of his crop to damage done by varmints, his expenses are the still the same, so they must raise prices. I'll look for your mailing address.
Great videos, and great voice too. Great locations, brings back memories. I'm an 80 yr old disabled Vet that can't go out anymore. This is really good for me. Thanks a bunch!
I'm glad you are enjoying them! Stay-tuned for a lot more this year!
Finally! A worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!
Two in one was an amazing shot! They lined up for you amazingly!
I bought one last year and it is a fine rifle. No issues whatsoever.
Good to hear! Savage has been doing much better with their QC on the B.MAG rifles.
I bought one of these a month ago and it is one of the most accurate and fun rifle to shoot! Not to mention that the ammunition is readily available and cheap. out of the shooting I've done so far I prefer the 20 grain over the 25 grain bullet. If you get a chance buy this gun with a heavy barrel put a bipod on it you're good to go.
+Brad Neumann - Great to hear!
@Jb Sports - Asked and answered in the comments below: "Most of the ground squirrels in this video were in the 75 to 175 yard range. The ones in the brush were around 100 yards, with the one in the thick brush at 5:36 being only about 70 yards. Part Two will be up in a couple of days and it includes shots on prairie dogs that averaged 225 yards and the far shot of 359 yards!" - Eric
Just ordered mine, my first rifle! Then i immediately got a rossi 22 lever action right after haha
Nice!
Really enjoying your video's. many thanks from the UK.
Thanks for the kind words, and for watching!
Will do. Edgar Brothers are the import dealers and the Savage rifle is arriving before the ammo!
Sold my BMAG HB Stainless for a BMAG HB fluted barrel & its perfect here in Buckeye, Az! Heat or not!!! Yup! Also got a Nikon scope!
Az N8tive do you shoot Yotes with it?
Thanks Eric. 17 HMR costs £12.50p for 50 up to £14 per fifty depending on make. So it is actually dearer in dollar terms but roughly one pound sterling for every dollar. I have an idea now what it might cost. Thanks for the prompt reply. Cheers!
+Rod Mac - Let us know when it gets there!
Finally seen year video , I have the same rifle and like your new stock , been wanting to change mine but don’t have contact info to have someone to change it for me .. but good video thanks
Nice video and great commentary. My only issues with the .17 WSM is the consistency of the ammo. In the beginning I seemed to always have 1 or 2 flyers in a 5 shot group. What I'm doing now is weighing each cartridge and shooting the collective average rounds when punching paper or shooting varmints. 5 shot groups are averaging, off the bench at 100 yards, in the .035" to .045" range consistently. I've also had good results with the 25gr rounds on coyotes under 100 yards. Head shots only. Once again, nice review. Good Shooting.
Thanks Will! If you get a chance to shoot any of the new ammunition, including the Federal American Eagle branded ammo, you may see a marked difference. I was shooting it over the last couple of days and had great results. - Eric
That's some nice shooting Sir!.
Thanks!
gotta say your channel is by faaaaarrrrrr my favorite hunting vids to watch, no question! I'm getting ready to pick up a B mag with the SS heavy barrel and syn stock, and will probably replace it with a boyds down the road.. anyways, i've seen your review on the Winchester 15gr ntx with a DETAILED accuracy report with an avg group of .5005, and you've stated your B mag is "on" in the videos where you're using Winchester 20gr and/or 25gr, so what accuracy in *detail* (at 100yds) did the 20's and 25's do out of your heavy barrel B mag??
I am going off memory, because I ditched a lot of my old targets that I kept before my move to Idaho, but it was below 0.75" at 100 yards consistently with the 20 grain AE ammo (based off my old notes). I don't use the 25 grain bullets, so I don't have any info on the accuracy for those.
Thanks for the kind words, we try to do our best. You will find a lot of information online on more recently built B.MAG rifles, which will give you more of an idea of what other folks are seeing as well. I hope this helps!
precisely the info i was looking for sir, thank you! and one more question.. how do i get a job with varminter?? lol.. seems awesome doing reviews, field testing, etc, but i know theres a LOT you do that isnt seen either
We are actually changing our entire business model to bring in revenue from sources other than Google ads. However, we only have a small "staff" of folks at this time and are trying to stay that way. In the near future, we will be putting out requests for guest writers (with video) and we are going to try to do a revenue sharing plan, depending on how those individual articles/video perform. Otherwise, it is definitely a job, I just get to shoot a lot. ;-)
VERYGOOD I FROM.THAILAND.
Thanks!
nice job, thanks for your work!
Thanks!
Awesome I bee buying 17 win super mag ammo.at walmart cuz I have intentions to get a savage and after seeing the boyds stock u put on it and how it performed I'll definitely be getting it now. Keep up the great videos
At what range is the average for these great shots ? These varmints really do hide well, and I noticed too, that the bird hardly moved when you shot the squirrel at about the 6:28 minute spot in the video. Amazing !
Thanks for the video...now I'm waiting for part 2. Good shooting too.
Most of the ground squirrels in this video were in the 75 to 175 yard range. The ones in the brush were around 100 yards, with the one in the thick brush at 5:36 being only about 70 yards. Part Two will be up in a couple of days and it includes shots on prairie dogs that averaged 225 yards and the far shot of 359 yards! - Thanks for the kind words! - Eric
***** Hullo Eric, I have a question.
I know that for hunting prairie dogs all day long there are a lot of fantastic rifles and calibers; but personally I am focused on the following ,
1) new Savage B.MAG "Target" .17 WSM
2) CZ 455 Varmint .17 HMR
3) new Ruger AR556 .223 Rem. ( this one because it is very versatile).
Please, what would you choose among these?
Thank you very much :)
I'm offended by some of these images. Like, why would you put that scope on that nice rifle?
You got me there! I also have no excuse why I did so... :-(
Varminter Magazine Don't let it happen again or else...
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Hey where can I get a sticker for my BMag at? I also run the BSA 17 bmag scope on my rifle, I love that caliber for critters.
I may not have any more of those, but hit our site at Varminter.com and send me a message through the "Contact Us" link with your mailing info and I'll get one of what I have to you.
On it's way!
Try Bushnell's Nitro or Forge line of scopes. They're much better.
When closing the bolt is it supposed to be stiff or smooth
awesome vid we are over run with ground squirrels some places here in central ca.
Thanks! Yep, I used to shoot a ton of them in the Hanford, CA area! Hundreds in a couple of days was not unheard of.
Why is the barrel offset in the stock? I have a 17 HMR with the laminated thumb hole stock and it's quite centered. No need to "glass" my stock/barrel. Good shooting BTW. My 17 Savage A17 has the exact same stock.
Class act! Keep shooting!
Thanks!
You should tell the distances to the targets
We started doing that in later videos.
good shit thanks for the info keep up the good shooting and be safe
Hi Eric, wondering how your 17 wsm has held up over the years and if you are still enjoying it? Cheers, Josh.
It has and it functions great. The Winchester 15 grain Lead Free ammo in this rifle shoots fantastic, so I mainly use that ammo when hunting with it.
nice,like the stock i have the same one, but in green.
I was torn on the color, but the gray just "spoke" to me! ;-) - Eric
Very good commentary.
Happy hunting!
I miss your videos! Am I missing the new ones?
We've been doing more social media and on Varminter TV. Starting next week, we will be changing to longer format and more informative videos.
What is the point of a heavy barrel when those stupid grooves are machined into the barrel at the action. Those grooves just serve to make the barrel less rigid at that point.
Everything's a heavy barrel when you're shooting a .172 caliber.
Knowing how many yards for each shot would be nice.
We started doing that on future videos. This is an old one!
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We're all the kills with the barrel jacked to the left in the synthetic stock? I'm wanting to buy this gun in stainless with the heavy barrel but every gun I've looked at the barrel is not free floated at all. Just curious if you sighted it in a nod hunted with the stock messed up like it was in the photos at the end of this video. Any feedback would help me out
Yes. I shot the rifle as received from the factory, other than a good cleaning and a test to make sure everything was tight. My HBSS B.MAG had the same issue, but shoots VERY well with the right ammo.
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me if the groups were good with the synthetic stock? At least your killing dogs at a distance.. did the Boyd’s improve accuracy much. Also which Burris scope mounts did you install? Medium or high height?
Check out the two videos linked on this page: www.varminter.com/savage-b-mag-heavy-barrel-stainless-in-17wsm-review-and-hunt-report-videos/ - I believe they were medium (it's been a while and they are still on there).
I have the rifle. With a barrel like that how could you suppress it? Get it machined?
Yes. I had a gunsmith thread it for me. It is really quiet with my Optimus Micro.
Great Review. On the long shots, did you use the reticle, hold over markings on the BSA scope? If so are they accurate?
Sky King - Yes I did and yes, they were VERY close to accurate! - Eric
What was ur best ammo an what grain bullet thanks
All the ammo is made by Winchester, but the 20 grain load worked best for us.
Is the 17WSM ammo cheaper than 17HMR? It is coming to the UK shortly.
+Rod Mac - Over here, it is about $2.00 more per #50 box than .17HMR ammunition. I can get the 17WSM ammo for as low as $12.75 a box, and 17HMR ammo for around $10.00 a box.
Hi Eric, austin here again, I got some ammo(25gr) have been able shoot it after free floating the stock and geez can it shoot! Sometimes... I was shooting some groups off a sand bag and the first 3 shots were about 2 inches apart. 2nd group was a little better at 1 inch.(this was all at 100 yards) 3rd group was 5 shots at 1/2 inch! I was flabbergasted but all the groups after that except for one more were 1.5-2.5 inch groups which isn't within my standard. But I'm stumped, what could be the problem? Any suggestions?
Hi Austin. Did you pull it from the stock and remount it in the stock? I do this to every new rifle I have that may not shoot as well as I expect. I will play with the torque of the bolts that mount it to the barreled action, until I find the sweet spot. I had to do that to my original thin barreled B.MAG and ended up with very good results. Also, have you tried any of the 20 grain ammo? Savage recently changed the twist rate of their new B.MAG barrels to 1:8". From what I understand, this was done to help stabilize the heavier bullets. I am in Las Vegas for the SHOT Show, so my replies may be delayed! - Eric
Varminter Magazine Thx for the tips. My HBSS Bmag came with the boyd Thumbhole stock and my groups were ok at best. I phoned savage after watching your video and reading the comments and they said as per there FAQ that any rimfire rifle in any stock should be torqued to 15 ft lbs. Mine was at 60 in. Lbs. I will try it and let you know if it improves. They said to send it to them if this doesn’t help.
Also wonder if you still like the BSA with 17wsm reticle. Considering that or a used bushnell 2.5-16x50 perhaps.
Update
Tried 15in lbs and got a 2-1/8 th group
Tried 25 in lbs and got 2 inch group
Tried 35 in. Lbs and got a 1 inch group
Will try to fine tune it.🤞
All 5 shot groups
Varminter Magazine what did you torque yours too? Just one bolt right?
Nice video, I'm thinking of selling my sako quad in 17hmr and 22 mag for a 17wsm or a 17 hornet 🐝, now used to have a CZ in 22 hornet I was told that these 17 wsm have the same energy as the 22 hornet 🐝 with a 35 vmax round at 200 yrds. Plus I am a reloader my next rifle up from this is a 220 swift , lwill be shooting red fox and rabbits , which would you recommend 17 wsm or 17 hornet 🐝 maximum distance on rabbits and fox 300 yards atvb steve all advice very welcome
Hi Steve. Because you may have some opportunities to shoot fox passed 200 yards, I would personally choose the 17 Hornet. It is a very accurate round, and the added energy at 200-300 yards will be needed to make a humane kill on the bigger varmints. I have a CZ 527 in 17 Hornet, and it is the most accurate production rifle I own (with factory loads). I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Hey Eric, we were lucky enough to hold out till the stainless heavy barrel b mag came out. The gun shoots average, but throws the "fliers" that everyone associates with the garbage factory stock. I also have looked at the boyd's featherweight stock and was wondering if there was fitting required when you put the rifle in that stock. Also how was the accuracy after the stock? It seems like you may have gotten one of the good ones right off bat. Its a shame these rifles are troublesome considering the capabilities of this round as you have demonstrated. We have a 93 in .17 HMR and that is a tac driver so I am hoping to make this rifle shoot similarly. So just if you could give some tips or pointers on that boyd's featherweight stock, I would greatly appreciate it.
Hi Calvin. My Boyds did not fit well when I got it, so it took some in-letting of my own with a Dremel. I took a bit out of the magazine well, a small amount underneath the safety and added a shim over the front screw that attaches the stock to the receiver. However, I have heard that the more recent stocks have been a bit better fit. My rifle was more accurate with the plastic stock, but I am not done with adjusting the Boyd's stock yet to make a comparison. Some folks have added a heavy rubber strip in front of the receiver, under the barrel. I will probably end up doing something like that in order to really snug the action into the stock. Otherwise, it is going to be an entire bedding job to get it where I want it. I hope this helps! - Eric
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I am tempted to get a 17 wsm myself. Since I live in Germany, I don't have a lot of sources to get me one of these rifles. Ammo is also scarce. Would you say that the 17 wsm is worth it when compared to the 17 hmr? I would use it for small game like red fox, raccoon, nutria, crows and pigeons up to 150-200 yds.
For pure power and extended range, it is definitely worth it.
@Austin Prochaska - It is a Boyds Stock. Featherweight, thumbhole. www.boydsgunstocks.com
+Austin Prochaska - Great!
What’s the report like? Compatible to a 22 mag?
Slightly louder.
the scope that you r useing i think you said it was a 6-24- what is the last part on the scope 42 or bigger and does it have mil dots and is it called BSA. - and r they a good clear scope.. i use centerpoint scope. but cant find a 6-24-42. in center point..
+Mark Moffitt - Hi Mark. It is the BSA 17 Super Mag scope, in 6-24x44mm. After using it, and reading some of the other reviews out there, I would lean towards the 4.5-14x44. The 6-24 is decent up to about 16 power, but I don't normally go much higher than that. I did run into an issue, when the elevation turret became unresponsive. Either way, it is a $100 scope, so understand the limitations on a scope priced that low.
Which rifle do you prefer, the Savage Bmag or Ruger 77/17?
I actually like both about the same. The BMag is lighter, and the stocks on the Savage give a better cheek weld (I have the thin barrel, and a heavy barrel with a Boyd's thumbhole stock). The Ruger magazine is easier to load, and the rifle feels better due to it being more of a higher end rifle. I hope this helps!
Varminter Magazine yes it does thank you
Got the same exact rifle for 196 @wally world.
And they had a misshipment of 17wsm. For 9 a box. I got 10
And they had a misshipment of 17wsm. For 9 a box. I got 10
And they had a misshipment of 17wsm. For 9 a box. I got 10
And they had a misshipment of 17wsm. For 9 a box. I got 10
And they had a misshipment of 17wsm. For 9 a box. I got 10
Knowing how many
It's now the end of 2023, I bought a 17WSM b-B-MAG About 5 years ago and I've had to send it back to them three times, and now with what they send me It's still fucked up. I'll never buy from Savage again. All that wasted AMMO, savage cost me a lot and I can't even shoot the gun.
That sucks. Sorry to hear that.
what is your opinion about the safety off issue to chamber a round?
+Chris Crabtree - None really. I've shot so many guns with quirky actions, safeties, etc, that I don't really notice it anymore. I stick to the rule of treating every gun like it is loaded, and pointed in a safe direction, so I don't really have any concerns. I've not had any issues with mine going off either.
Anybody else. Thought that that squirrel was still digging
Did you have to do any work on that stock before your boyd?? Mine i had to sand the fore stock to get the barrel free floating.
Yes, I did. I had to remove a lot in the magazine well in order for the magazine to sit properly and "click" in. Since ours was one of the newest ones out of Boyds, I knew it would need some work (just not as much as I ended up doing).
Did either of y’all have accuracy problems with the new stock or does it bed fine without any glass?
I didn't have any problems. It shoots pretty good still. Check out the review I did on the lead free 17WSM ammo. This rifle ended up being the most accurate using that ammo.
What ranges were you shooting? Did you have any misses or flyers? Did you have any hits that didn't kill? Not a very helpful video - entertaining but not helpful. I'm shooting foxes between the eyes at 140yds with my 17HMR and hares through the head at the same range. Longest shot on a fox is 200yds. Where's the data on this rifle? Is it capable of the same or better?
where in the central valley do you hunt
We used to hunt between the 5 and the 99 freeways. I'm in Idaho now, so I can hunt anywhere with lead ammo!
@@varmintermagazine between the 5 and 9 freeways. Do you know how much area is between the 5 and 99 freeways? 5 and 99 run almost parallel to each other from Sacramento to Bakersfield. Thats about 275 linear miles. The actual area is much bigger. So excuse me, but I must beg the question. Where between 5 and 99?
The rings you had for the BSA SCOPE they looked medium height? Or was it high?
I just checked and they are Burris Zee Rings High. - Eric
***** will medium height work? I ordered the BSA 6-24 .17wsm scope and the new savage target thumbhole rifle but I got medium Burris zee rings.
brian dusick - I don't know if the medium will work. My scope is really low and almost touches the bolt when ejecting a round. Try it, but you may need to change over to the high. - Eric
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Truly this rifle can be defined Gen.2. This video is very clear: Savage has also modified the bolt action, I hope this should be less stiff than the previous one.
With the Boyd stock it is a masterpiece of contemporary Fine Arts.
Now, my only ramaining doubts concern the consistency of .17 WSM ( see the following reviews
czcams.com/video/QDPrcVAJF5o/video.html
czcams.com/video/CfHhlexspfc/video.html )
and the real availability in the market of this kind of ammo for a cheap price.
Eric, regarding Part 2, I hope to see in the Boyd stock action, thank you.
Savage has made some changes and continue to try and improve upon what they have. There will be more information on that when Part Two is released this coming Tuesday. It won't include any video with the Boyds stock, as all of this was filmed from July 2014, to September 2014. The second video will also speak about the new B.MAGs that are soon to be available from the factory. - Thanks! Eric
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guerrierodelgiaguaro - Savage actually just put their new B.MAG "Target" rifle up on their website, here: www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/B.MagTarget - Thanks! Eric
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Yep! That sculpture for just 566 bucks (and surely even less on the street) it is hard to believe :) I am drooling.
Eric, what do you think , how much weight does the laminated stock add? The Model: B.Mag- Stainless Heavy Barrel with polymer stock is just 5 lbs.
did you buy the heavy barrel or did it come like that?
+nick campbell - I bought the heavy barrel model.
I am wont to get the 17 wsm savage today.the date is 12-22-15. I heard there has ben a recall on the savage. 17 wsm. Is this true or not. wally world is tell me this but 30 miles to the next wally world they got them in stock. Please let me no as fast as you can. be for i get it to day 12-22-15. time is 651.AM leaving at 830. AM to go get this gun. And do wont to buy something that has a recall on it...
+Mark Moffitt - The recall covers the rear cap behind the bolt on the B.MAG rifles. On some rifles, it is catching the safety, and pulling it off safety. If the rifle you are looking at needs the recall, you just need to fill in some info on their site, and they will send you a kit to change it out. There is more information here: www.varminter.com/savage-arms-issues-recall-notice-on-17wsm-b-mag-rifle-bolts/ - The rifle in this video is the Savage B.MAG SKU #96915.
Why are you shooting these? D you eat them?
They damage the crops.
At what distance were these shots taken?
I can't remember, and my notes are tucked away, but I typically shoot from 75 to 200+ yards for videos. The second part of this video shows me shooting a prairie dog at 359 yards, on video.
Lucky those are not fit to eat; not much left after the shot...
Sweet rig and gets the job done...
have anybody made this or 17hmr in semiautomatic?
+Jason Mantovani - Hi Jason. Yes, Franklin Armory makes an AR15 style rifle in this cartridge (as well as uppers to build your own), and Volquartsen makes one as well. The 17HMR comes in a few semiautos now. Take a look through the videos on this channel, and you will see the videos on the Savage A17 in 17HMR.
what model gun is that
+Mark Moffitt - It is the Savage B.MAG HBSS in .17WSM.
ok thanks alot
Not good gun for squirrels, if you plan to eat them.
Washere Isgone head shots my freind alot of accuracy can be gained with after market stock he went with the thumb hole me i've ordered the varmint pro
No ammo available do not buy this gun!!!!
"Gee man your so good" Yes I know I don't have any thing to do but shoot little creatures with my precision rifle I am so proud
You quoted, "Gee man your so good". No where in this video does anyone say that. You also spelled "your" wrong. It should be spelled "you're", for "you are". Second language, or not, there is no excuse for poor spelling, no punctuation and poor grammar. Please correct those issues before submitting any future comments.
have know problem with hunting for food. but to kill for sport and not eat the animal u killed is sad. anyone shooting and killing a animal just to kill it. is borderline serial killer.
Hi Charles. Please send me your mailing address, and I would be happy to send you some of the ground squirrels I shoot for your consumption. Btw, I am always astonished by people who complain about varmint hunters shooting vermin, but benefit from the fact that we do. Your beef, milk, fruit and vegetable prices are all affected by the amount of crop-loss the farmer has. By shooting the ground squirrels, etc, the farmer's crops produce more fruit and prices can stay lower. However, if the farmer loses much of his crop to damage done by varmints, his expenses are the still the same, so they must raise prices. I'll look for your mailing address.
Why buy turd scope lol
Savage = Junk of Junk