Why Graeme NEVER Returned To Football! ❌ | Simon & Souness | Episode Five
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Join Simon Jordan & Graeme Souness each week in 'Simon & Souness'! This week, they discuss the what refs need to do to fix the game, and what makes an ideal striker!
00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Are refereeing standards improving?
12:19 - Graeme's involvement in Goal!
14:20 - Is Howe on thin ice at Newcastle?
17:20 - Do classic number 9s still exist?
24:53 - Has Arteta got it wrong at Arsenal?
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Jordan and Souness should be on mainstream television. Their punditry and analysis is top class. Entertainment at its best
Main stream is finished. This is the new main stream.x
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@@wormsnake1 you are obviously under 30 years old. I am old school 😁
Souness at his peak for Liverpool was one of the top midfielders in the world. These two together are punditry dynamite. There analysis and discussion is always concise, enlightening and informed. 🙏❤️⚽️.x
Agree!
Souness is a clown
"Borrowed one of my Ferraris" 😅 good man Simon. A man of taste
I agree: the ref should call for VAR, not VAR demanding that the ref should come to it. VAR is meant to assist the ref but some people seem to think it is there to overrule the on-field official. The referee is the final arbiter.
And that will reduce the mistakes how? The A in VAR stands for assistant, so they should notify the ref when they feel it is necessary like the linesmen do. The refs don't even know calls have been missed half the time.
And what happens when someone misses something?
@abayomikelvin5153 I think he means, by asking the ref to look at the monitor, they are already implying that he's got his original decision wrong. So he feels obliged to change his decision, when perhaps he was correct in the first place.
Or bring in a captains option to object the refs decision.
Only one objection until the captains gets it wrong.
If that was the case the refs wouldn't never use it and haven't got eyes in the back of their heads either, so if they don't see something, they'll never call for it, will they? Greame is right it should be a player and there should be 2, with accountability. The average fan at home can see how ridiculous some of the decisions are so its baffling how clueless these refs and assistants are. If the former players are clueless and mess up then replace them. I'm sure there would be plenty who would be willing to do it. Maybe even open it up to voting from fans as the fans will see through the bias or clueless ones. You could only imagine how bad it would be if it was a Michael Owen or Gary Neville.
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What’s that got to do with the price of cheese?
Its for the birds
@@thechipman2473I’ve got no dog in this fight
Simon is a very capable operator ,a pundit of some repute
Grow up.
It would be nice to see a avenue into getting new refs I wanted to become a ref cuz I couldn't play anymore and all I got was you have to go out buy all your own gear and then you have to get teams to have you as ref there should be some sort of organisations that should be in place to get proper refs in train and give them matches
Before he got injured at age of just 22, Gary Shaw of Villa for 3 or 4 years was scoring goals for fun alongside Peter Withe. He`d certainly fit into Todays Game. Won the European Young Footballer of the year award in 1982.
We use to call false 9s no. 10s interchangeably with today’s 10s. False 9 is just the new term for the same role. Eg Bergkamp, Del Piero, Zola.
The problem with VAR is that it’s often just these refs protecting each other, I don’t know if it needs to be ex players but someone else needs to be in the room with them for accountability. A minor league gridiron league in America had instant replay decisions broadcast as they happen, that’d work too.
They need a hard cap on how long to review, 30 seconds max. If you need to look at it longer than that, it’s not clear and obvious. They also need to limit VAR to hard yes or no situations instead of having judgment calls reviewed left and right. Offsides or no, did ball cross the line or no. If it’s a judgment call, it needs to be made by the on field ref and keep it moving.
‘They called me to borrow ONE of my Ferrari’s’ 😂🙄
And they pranged it 🤦🤦
Can't wait 😊
Referees miss things, they`re only human. Like the time the referee missed the punch that Graeme threw to break that French players jaw.
love the content
Love these two - pints await in Tampa, Gent's, if you prefer a sunnier clime! 🙂
I've been saying all it takes is one high-profile player to say publicly, "sod the PL, I'm out because the ref's suck", THEN the PL will undertake proactive action.
Simon channelling his inner Joe 90
Enjoyed the chat.
IMO guys, co ownership was the main reason Afcs venue shift went sideways.
Can't believe they overlooked Frank Worthington when discussing great centre forwards!
Everyone is a var expert, but don't want to do it🤷😁 by the way, love it when it suits my team and hate when it impacts my team
Graeme, Simon, Jim & everyone else at Talk sport have a great 2024 ❤
Re: Arteta - I haven't heard a pundit pick up on Arteta selling the keeper who is now, arguably one of the top 3 in the PL ie Martinez which would have saved them a fair whack...
they already talked about it in the first few weeks of the season. its old news now
Arsenal let Unai Emery go also 😆
Certainly was surprised when arsenal let him go to villa , and bought ramsdale.
Problem with employing ex footballers to help with VAR, is that many ex pros disagree with each other on decisions. We see it every week. It wouldn't stop all the squabbling over decisions every week.
The problem would be bias
@thetwistedfirestarter2607 good point, hadn't thought of that.
@@liamjohnson7887 I’m sure it’ll be similar with Refs tbh I’m sure they all support or supported a certain team at some point and disliked any team within a 50mile radius but have to try to put it aside. I don’t think it’s possible tho even sub consciously. The dudes mothers fathers grandad used to play for X team so they’re more inclined to give them softer decisions
Lack of stickers it's cuz 90% of team now play with one striker. Again meaning likes of Liverpools van dyle looks great playing against one striker and many are not of quality they once was. 20 years ago it was 442 so all clubs had 2 main strikers. Meaning defending was much tougher. Even I would look so much better playing against one striker then 2. Also there been generations on lack of left wing for England now we have many options. It's about the systems and natural talent and luck of players getting there chance too show quality. I personal think many clubs would do better playing old 442 as u can use that as attacking and defensive strategy.
99.9% of the time if someone is rolling over and over screaming they are not injured, laying still and not making a sound gets checked 1st..
Totally agree with that
I disagree with Graeme when he says a div 1 player doesn't see it different to a prem player, the prem players see everything faster and more clearly. That is why they're at that level. iv 1 players see it better than refs do though who would be Sunday league players.
Souness always knew if a player was really hurt because it was him that hurt him
can we stop bleeping bad language please
Biggest mistake for allowing Ali Dia in, should have been played for reserves.
It's too short, it should be a hour!
If it weren’t for the film goal would anyone outside of Newcastles know the football team ?
Why not make VAR a review system in a similar way to cricket? Put the onus on the managers or captains? Goal-line decisions not part of it, nor offside reviews. Captains if they feel they have a genuine case to overturn a decision have 10 seconds to appeal. Get it wrong, lose a review, 2 maximum. This will stop the likes of Arteta blaming referees and puts his captain under scrutiny.
I don't agree that the ref should call for VAR, I believe VAR should be used to get the correct decision. I hate this rubbish it wasn't a "clear & obvious" rule, surely getting the decision right is what we all want. If VAR was used well I would be for it but as it is poorly used & you can not trust the integrity of the people sitting in the rooms (Mike Dean looking after his mate, what a joke) I'd prefer to get rid of it. This season we have had 2 of the worse decisions I have ever seen, Liverpool's goal disallowed against Spurs & Newcastle's goal given against Arsenal.
Please get rid of it as it is ruining the game unless we can get people that know what their doing running it!
Agree with Graeme, Arsenal should of done with more with Smith Rowe. Havertz is bang average and is similar type of player to Ozil
Maybe we should have a referee transfer window 😂
How are people still sleeping on Victor Osimhen
Simon the 'game' as it is being sold actually is offensive....
Shearer 🐐
What's all that tosh at the start, taking the piss
Regis from westbrom
Tax write off 😂
Simon has a real problem with Salah but I'd challenge him to evidence when he rolls about as he claims
Maybe is Simon shut up for a second, Souness would have named a centre forward. Jordan chucking in names like Coppell (sic), Heighway, Cunningham and Peter Barnes whilst Graeme is trying to come up with a name 😂
Simon, proud to have memorized players of the past for this dialogue, wanted to qualify himself as ..., rattled them off to equalize the conversation and Souness still took the question serious. All the names do not bring superstar out of them, competitors of different teams would have had no difficulty naming two of Liverpool though.
Was the English league then the non-plus-ultra. No, not like today, other leagues had a say.
he said winger when naming them
Ex-players as referees or VAR? Don't be absurd. No one is going to give a decision against their own team, football is too tribal. Souness proved the point by denying that Salah is a diver who simulates. Ridiculous.
I always wondered why football associations have never tried to get young ex players to become referees.
Good money on offer.
i think they do try; players know how much abuse refs get and they arent interested. much better to sit around on TV getting paid for their opinions
Prem refs make over 100k a year they are in the top 1% of earners in this country. And they gate keep the prem jobs for themselves. There is no drop down if they mess up
Because his managerial skills were bang average just like Scottish football in general
Graham, there is no such thing as a football person. Ex players do not know the game any better. Most are poorly educated, largely illiterate. None, ever become referees because it involves hard work. Much easier to be given a coaching qualification. A footballing head? What is that Graham? They are laws, not rules.
Should never have allowed referrees to lead the teams out. They now think the game is about them.
Like you
Like watching your grandad trying to grasp modern football
And what's wrong with that?
Simon, you have put on the weight. If you see this message, get back to your usual self. Great interview, my comments are not from hate, but just to highlight your weight gain 👍
I cant believe simon actually just used the "mistakes happen" excuse for referees... yeah, mistakes happen, but most people dont get an unlimited amount of time and as many replays as they want from as many angles as they want in order to correct their mistake instantly. I feel like you have to be braindead to have all of that at your disposal and still make mistakes. If you cant get things right with unlimited replays then you're obviously just not qualified to be a referee at all.
Graeme isnt any better. Says he would obviouslty get every decision right... sure graeme. And every current referee thinks they can too. What happens when you make the "correct" decision and everyone on social media says you're wrong? Then we end up right back where we are now.
Yeah, Simon is far too protective of referees. When a manager commits poor decisions that cost the club millions, he pays the price for it.
When a referee commits poor decisions that cost the clubs millions.... "Uh oh spaghettios!" 🤷🏻♂️
Football is the most simple game in the world. Complicated by idiots.
i think its so funny that english fans always act like they have the worst referees in europe. You REALLY believe that guys from for example rural hungary are less biased and better at the job than in the prem?
You're both dead on about Arteta. yes, he should be praised somewhat to win an FA CUp and nearly win the league as a complete novice when he started. But he's spent a lot and has to return on that soon. He's had four years in the job. He can't go on forever being "a novice" or "needing time". Win BIG SOON or GO!
Stop complaining about VAR and be the ex pro that sits in VAR room. If you don’t want to, then shut up
Hear me out. I’d pay money to watch a tv series that follows referees like Paul Tierney around a breaks down what their week looks like as an epl referee. Would either be extremely interesting or strange and hilarious. Then on game day a micd up body cam gets chucked them for before during and after a match. Could be some interesting content in there… it might also humanise them somehow and maybe give the vast majority of let’s be honest idiotic and one eyed supporters a new more positive view on referees as a whole and therefore a bit of leeway when the make mistakes. Could be something in that 😂
No need to beep out swear words on a podcast,is there?
There’s a chance CZcams demonetise it and this pod is all about making money
He talks about people’s balls in every show he does 🤷🏻 it’s a bit weird
Train retired players to be refs
@LeeMcGuiness-jp1tr Who wants to deal with the abuse??
Stick to football
Because he was a clueless manager.
Messi..502 games 497 goals in top 5.leagues.... he wasnt no 9
This is murder … like someone put a camera in an old folks home… can’t believe these guys were actually involved in the game….zero intelligence or experience exhibited.
If Toon finishes midtable, sack Howe. It is regression, and htey have a team and squad good enough to be top six at the least. He is a good manager, but the Saudis/Ms. Staveley want to progress with their ambitions and money.
Nobody wants to watch this 😂😂😂😂
Yet here you are 😂😂😂😂
Someone let Sourness out from the nursing home again. The modern game has moved on
Can you actually explain your comment.
Football (prem league) is full of nonsense these days. It’s been over complicated, and stuffed full of individual arrogance on every level,(defo on the player front, overpaid fools, for the most part ) The purity has been sucked out and flushed down the shitter long ago. Well done for making a mess of a simple beautiful game. 😢