Podcast: Just Say No to Meth (ionine)
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Nine years ago I was diagnosed with stage four neuroindocrine pancreatic cancer. The first four years I had four surgeries and y-90 treatments. Every six month scan found new tumors until I switched to a vegan diet five years ago. Since then I had one more surgery to remove part of my bladder because of a tumor that was found seven years ago. Two years ago the last three tumors near my heart disappeared from my scans and I've been tumor free since. You are what you eat!
Awesome recovery! 🙂
Congratulations! You are what you absorb some would say.
@@chiyerano and how well you absorb can change. And doing things like mixing vitamin c rich foods, or fatty foods, even blending and cooking some foods helps absorb more nutrients...
@@VeganLinked Indeed.
@@Goodmorning1221- Vitamin A is produced by the body by converting beta carotene, no need to supplement. B12 can be easily supplemented once a week, not a big effort. You can even get tooth paste with B12 and wouldn't have to supplement at all, if you prefer it even simpler. I don't see the problem.
Hospitals and schools should be places where good nutrition is taught and provided .
It is crazy the hospitals are feeding people the very food that caused the heart disease, high blood pressure or cancer that they are treating. Every person in the hospital should receive some nutrition education before being released. Every doctor visit should be an opportunity to educate patients about how food choices impacts their health outcomes. The fact that doctors do not get nutrition training as part of their training makes no sense.
I'm working at a Hospital as a nurs in Gothenburg and doing my best to shift this paradigm.
@@fjalar4856 Thank you!
Awesome segment, I was talking about this 2 years ago to everyone I know after I went down the rabbit hole in cancer research. Very happy to see you put out this info it should be well known. Such a wide spectrum of cancer cells experienced apoptosis when starved of methionine it’s crazy encouraging yet no one knows about it. A lot has to do with the stubbornness of humans and the ridiculous addiction to tastebud pleasure and inability to change diet even when it’s life or death.
That's sad, most likely when meat-eaters encounter that type of research their brain just goes to work inventing some reason why it can't be true or isn't important in order to avoid cognitive dissonance.
Invaluable stuff as usual, thanks Dr. G!
When my grandfather‘s cancer came back for the fourth time several years ago I sensed that he was finally willing to try some of the things I had been urging since day one, namely, a plant-based diet. Unfortunately I was living very far away and working full-time with a newborn baby at home but I took a week off to go see him and was horrified at what the hospital was feeding him: chocolate milk, processed meats, and other cancer fuelers. During my week’s stay I took countless trips to the local Whole Foods bringing him nutrient rich vegan dishes, pressed juices, etc. He took to them very well and was feeling better however unfortunately I had to go back home and without my continued guidance and no one to kind of step in my place he went right back on the hospital foods in in short order he succumbed to the cancer. To this day I deeply regret not taking a month off of work to establish a solid foundation which I think could’ve had a totally different outcome. Moving forward I won’t make the same mistake again 🙏
You did what you could. You should be praised for doing your best.
Ah, that's very interesting. If cancer is methionine dependent, then that could be a reason why some fasting protocolls work seemingly miraculously against cancer. The cancer cells would just be starved if you don't consume any methionine at all for a long period of time. At least that would make sense on paper.
We would die without methionine. It's an essential amino acid. We just don't want too much.
@@mowthpeece1 "long period of time". I was talking about fasting, not starving.
@@cainen6355 yes this is why low protein vegans even when eating 3000 plus calories have low cancer rates
I love what you do Doc. Keep up the great work. 👍
If fish is so bad, why do Japanese live so much longer in general? Also, most of the blue zones are not strictly vegetarians. They just eat meat less, but researchers have found that all of them strong social connections. In fact, the blue zone in Greece have people who smoke and drink red wine but live to 100! But they are so happy because they have a community. That is the one "ingredient" we don't talk about enough.
The longest lived Japanese are the okinawans and less than 1% of calories come from animal products. 96% of calories come from sweet potatoes
omega 3
taurine
creatine
all longevity promoters
What do you think about oats, chia seeds and hemp seeds? I consider them healthy superfoods and it's hard to imagine how to replace all of their benefits, but their protein is high in methionine still.
I've been taking TMG for it's methylation properties. Am I correct to say that TMG is also a cancer feeder since it turns homocysteine back to methionine?
This title is so methed up.
It seems to me that methionine and leucine are double edged swords, increasing muscle protein synthesis via the mTOR pathway, while also triggering some of the negative side effects of mTOR upregulation on lifespan and cancer. I wonder if there is a way to get the positive benefits of maximal muscle growth without such side effects.
Inverted curve with sweet spot from what I’ve read. Or you might prioritize one over the other depending on your preference.
OMAD maybe?
Dr. Greger is my spirit animal
Body builders should therefore be more prone to cancer, because of the protein supplements they take. Has anyone looked into this?
they die before they get cancer, and exercise helps.
if you look into coroner reports of bodybuilders its a huge mess in there....
How many wham 90 year olds do you know, im assuming not many
Some take vegan pea protein
Does size not correlate with cancer anyway? My reasoning: bigger = more cells. More cells = more mutations. Admittedly, I've never really thought about it until now but that 'feels' like it makes sense at a basic level. It sounds too simple for me to be sure though
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iirc working out doesn't increase the number of muscle cells, only causes them to expand
I just had amino acid test done. I had low methionine, low aspartate, low glutamate. I was a little bit concerned so, I came to CZcams to find answers. In addition, a recent blood test showed I had very low white blood cell level (at 3). Dr. Gregor said people in these situations had low risk of getting cancer. Am I not going to get cancer? I am a plant-based dieter. I eat some seafood and eggs occasionally.
My wbc is 2.8. I'm also lowfat 80% of the time and whole food plant based
Really interesting. Thanks.
Pet-scan🙌😂 Dr. Greger👏👏👏🎩off to you Sir.
Since a vegan diet doesn't have a lot of protein, I have supplimented with vegan protein powder. Is this however, increasing my methionine intake?
Does this mean - taking as fact that Methionine increases cancer risk - vegan/whole plant diet individuals who are of more advanced years ie 55+, and therefore at greater risk of sarcopenia, should possibly be looking at supplementing with Creatine to maintain muscle mass? Or, given that meth is a precurser for Creatine, the cancer risk would revert to being similar to an individual who eats meat?
As far as I understand, risk of sarcopenia is somewhat overhyped as well as need to consume super high protein. Of course plant protein is better than animal, but protein still activates mTOR which accelerates aging. The main parameter which prevents muscle as we age is...surprice surprice - exercise, specifically resistance exercise. 0.8g per kg of lean mass is adequate protein and as per J. Fuhrman, after 70, we could increase to 1g per kg.
Another very fine video. Thank you Dr G and the team. Now all we need is to hear from some meat industry shills. C'mon son ... you're late this time.
So why isn’t a study being done on Cancer patients with half not being given any dietary advice, and half being told to adopt a vegan diet?
These studies have been done and they've shown a vegan diet is helpful. It hasn't become clinical practice though. The Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine has been pushing for this change for years.
My husband has hpv squamous cell carcinoma head neck cancer. He has been on a plant based zero sugar diet for three months now. No dairy, no meat and no sugar. We are wondering how long does it take to starve cancer cells to death? If he lifts weights, does mucscles get the methionine before the cancer cells?
Great podcast!
Sacrifice delicious red meat for +15 years longevity? Nope x9999 Those are the worst years of our lives anyhow. Filled with loneliness and fear of breaking a hip. I'll take the reduced lifespan with satisfying natural foods.
I'd like a video on the benefits of drug use and how we can take crack coaine and just be okay.
OK, that’s funny Dr. Gregor! Pet scan!
What if I have low (3.3) homocysteine, the slow COMT and slow MTHFR SNPs and it's helping me reduce anxiety due to my slow methylation of catecholamines+excess estrogen? I would take SAMe instead but I'm afraid that the direct supplementation of that methyl donor will make me moody (due to the SNPs). I'm taking 500-700 mg of methionine per day. I have been vegan for 8 years. I've been working on the excess estrogen through diet (cruciferous + DIM).
Interesting question. Being prescribed methionine as medication. Please share answer if possible. I am not familiar with the acronyms you used but it's clear that you do. Good health!
@@bcsiutube I wish I had an answer. I'd rather not take it due to the cancer issue Dr. Gregor brings up, but it really helps me a lot with the quirks of my genetic disposition. I'll keep researching on what is a safe level. Maybe SAMe is a safer alternative. (Methionine is turned into SAM, which your body uses to run many other essential functions then turns what's left in homocysteine back into methionine. Joanne Kenney's channel goes through the mechanics of how it works). Pethaps it's not a huge deal if you're already not eating meat and so your methionine level is low to start. Good luck to you as well!
Try creatine monohydrate
@@kazzz2765 Thanks! I'll take a look at that
@@yuppers1 It's really cheap, very well studies, and definitely worth a try for most people. I've seen discussion of it increasing SAM E levels while reducing cardiovascular disease risk. Plus the people who might benefit from it the most are vegans, as it is mostly found in meats
is there a good book on amino acid restriction?
Can you cover berberine.
The best! Pet scan! I see tofu has methionine. should we cut back on that as well? Thank you Dr.Greger! Your always welcome at our house!
@Hampeblixt Soy is the plant food that is highest in methionine.
Pea protein is very low.
@@marlineemmal6458 It's still substantially lower than animal foods though, I hope you are not going to avoid soy because it is relatively rich in methionine relative to other plants... we do still *need methionine to survive* at the end of the day...
@@marlineemmal6458 No, Soy is relatively low in Methionine, similar to other legumes. Around 70% of your RDA of protein from Soy and you will be over 100% in every amino acid, except Methionine. Methionine is the relatively low EAA for Soy. You will still meet your RDA for Methionine at 100% protein RDA from Soy though, as you will from nearly every plant sources, but you won't be in significant excess.
Compare with oats (which I love), at about 70% RDA of protein from Oats it's already 120% Methionine. So Methionine is MUCH higher in Oats.
Compare with Chicken. and at the same 70% protein point, you will be OVER 200% Methionine, so big excess.
@@peterscott2662 you would have to eat a HUGE amount of oats, in order to get 70% RDA of protein.
So beans just beans?
What about Hemp Seeds, which are relative high in Methionine ?
hemp hearts give me a tummy ache anyways
It's an essential amino acid. How little can we get by on??
Easy answer is: eat plants and forget about amino acid combining. Your body will do it for you. czcams.com/video/Fhyfa48bK28/video.html
Your body creates methionine from homocysteine. So probably very little. If you're taking B12 with your vegan diet you can eyeball this by looking at your homocystine level (already part of routine bloodwork in the US.) If it's above 5, you're probably ok. Joanne Kennedy has a video on this minimum level of homocysteine. (Caveat is you need choline to make methionine from homocysteine. I take a supplement for the choline- Nusapure Choline Bitarte.) Also a vegan diet has some methionine in it (not a whole lot).
@@yuppers1 I'm in the US and never had my homocysteine levels tested. Maybe they test it if you have certain conditions but I feel like most doctors wouldn't be familiar with it ...
@@yuppers1 Homocysteine is produced from Methionine in the first place, so you need the Methionine, that is why it's considered essential.
@anna If you are getting adequate daily protein it's nearly impossible to deficient in Methionine from any plant source. The difference is you might get 120% RDA of Methionine on plant based diet, but 300% RDA on animal foods.
But dr greger, what about crack? surely it must be safer
Lol, stop!
Vegan bull
7:32 ba dum bum
The dad jokes 😂
Very interesting. Thank you