I had a compact model for about 8 months in 2020-2021. In those 8 months I put roughly 1200 rounds through it and had the firing pin break. Replaced it with an apex striker and sold it.
My experience with a 509M is the same as yours. Wanted to really like it but when the striker broke at 301 rounds I shipped it back to FN for repair then traded it for a G19
The dark room w/ comfy chair looks like one of those moments where a villain turns the chair slowly with a silenced tomcat, “no mr bond i expect you to die lol” awesome vids Mr🐧! Made my morning poop more enjoyable
Years ago I spoke to one of their armorer's shortly after they adopted the Beretta 92 & the S&W 59 series, I would estimate around 1988. He was pretty detailed about what the LAPD Firearms unit thought of the Beretta 92 & the S&W. They were very Impressed with the Beretta 92 to say the least! But he did admit that since the US Defense Dept test's which led to the adoption of the Beretta 92 In 1985 was used as a short cut by the LAPD and quite a few other US LE Agencies, why spend their own time & money testing pistols when the US Government did it for them! Your thought's about the FN 509 reminded me about some other thumbs down comments I've heard about this handgun. It's my understanding that the 509 trigger group has a lot of parts in it? I can't verify that and I'm not going to buy one anytime soon to find out! This is the reason why Glock has such a large chunk of the US LE market, the Glock is soooo easy to repair. I also heard Bill Wilson complain about the complicated trigger group In the Sig P320!
Man, you always have great info! Yeah, though I was a bit hyperbolic about it in the video, the trigger mechanism is more complicated than a lot of the competitors.
Great review as always. I was not a fan of the 509 sold mine after a few months. BTW your malfunctions the gun looks oversprung. Doesn’t FN include 2 RSAs one for suppressed and a lighter one for unsuppressed?
Ah forgive me you did evaluate the RSAs. I’d be interested to hear hat FN says. My one call to them regarding my 509 they seemed completely disinterested in fixing anything. Rather claiming all the issues were normal.
No worries at all! I had the same thought about the spring and swapped them back and forth a few times. I'm still not convinced that a weaker spring wouldn't help, if only somebody made one. I'm sorry you had issues with yours too. It's always great to hear from you, and thanks for the info!
I've handled a few FN509s. When TGP says that trigger is creaky he isn't kidding. Worst trigger I think I've felt overall on an $700 polymer striker gun. The Sig P320 even has a better trigger than it. Just don't drop it lol
@@thegunpenguin they all have been creaky, with a wide variance with trigger weight pull, some really bad, and some on the level of gen 5 glock. It makes more sense to buy a gen 5 mos glock than this gun.
FN seems to be in a slump. Their pistols have just been ok at best, the original SCAR’s were cool, but they can’t even rechamber those successfully, and they will void the warranty if you put a silencer on them. What the hell FN.
@@forrest225 I didn't know that about suppressor use. On the one hand, that's hilarious. On the other, if I owned a SCAR, that would make me quite angry.
Man that sucks that yours has so many problems. Honestly I'm surprised because I have had zero malfs in three years (I'm not counting the occasional hard primer), and a round count somewhere between 2 and 3k. Definitely have never had a stovepipe. Caveats: I did the whole Apex jig and trigger job, I use the yellow recoil spring exclusively, and I swapped in the Apex heavy duty striker. My main complaint is that the slide stop is easy to ride which messes with lrho if I'm not paying attention (usually when switching from other pistols). My other complaint is the high cost out of the box, and that it doesn't come with a decent trigger despite the price. Edit: all in all, I'm pretty happy with the pistol, and I trust it to go bang when I want it to.
I know you didn't try, but doesn't Apex trigger install also cause problems with 509. Like you easily break something on the frames. I should check up on this bexore asking.
I've definitely lucked out on my 509 and got one that was made on a Wednesday. The double action only trigger does leave a lot to be desired and even trying to get in there to give it a Dremel polish is a pain in the f****** ass. I've avoided any Striker and or firing pin issues so far. I do have the Apex upgrade kit waiting though complete with trigger and heavy duty Striker.
Great info! I could deal with the trigger if mine worked as well as competing designs. Talking to folks before I filmed the review, these either seem to work flawlessly, or are nothing but trouble, depending on the individual gun you get. But that's just anecdotal info.
@@thegunpenguin in a perfect world FN would realize you would be a decent consultant to bring in at a very affordable price. It does seem like they just did not give a s*** about handguns until the 5/7. They've got that edge and that new 509 they're pushing hard now. I'd like to see the entire series of pistols be Revisited with a mark 2 iteration. Keep the things that are working right and really work on the trigger Striker and certain other aspects of the weapon series.
Always heard that these almost required 124gr NATO spec rds to function as they should. I've come close a few times to purchasing an FN.. be it 509, FNX, etc. But I never feel like the feel is representative of the price when I get them in my hands. 🤷🏼 They look cool...My M&P 10mm is also in the 1000rd "break-in" club lol... So frustrating.
I remember telling you how much I liked that gun a few years back. I shot the regular 509 the trigger was terrible I'm pretty spoiled though being a long time walther shooter. The ergos were great though and the tactical is bad ass looking.
The weird thing is, I had shorter experiences with the gun in the past and loved it. But when I had access to one all the time, the problem because apparent. That's what really sucks about this gun -- it's almost fantastic.
My experience with the 509 was similar to yours. I was really expecting that for the price it would be a major improvement over standard striker-fired pistols. It really seems like FN has only ever made mediocre, middle of the road striker pistols because the FNS was also a mediocre entry Anyway that's why I only trust FN to excel with their hammer-fired pistols
@@thegunpenguin The biggest part of what makes me sad about their striker guns. Is that for the price you expect them to be better? And at this rate if you're going to get an FN pistol, get something hammer fired
Watch the nutnfancy vid on the 509, nutn has led me astray a few times, but the 509 fucked with him too from what i can recall. The only FNs ill own will be in the 5.7 caliber
You must be sponsored by Glock, young man. I've had my 509 for 8 years and shot a full box of Winchester White Box through it with no failures. Despicable bias from you, sir 😤😤😤
If you buy a 509, you’ll have a great tank of a pistol. Go ask your local Range Rental Officers how their 509’s are doing. I’ve seen plenty 509’s over 35k rounds with zero reported malfunctions, mine is 2k with zero issues. Look up how the 509 did compared to other pistols in the LAPD trials (It Won). Go get actual data before you put a review out, literally every manufacturer has lemons leave the factory.
35,000 rounds with no malfunctions! Wow! These must be magic guns! Everybody did you hear that? They finally made a Magic Gun! In other news, you're mad, and I love it. I feast on your tears.
I would litterally use any of the other pistols u can use if i was lapd lol i actual did have actual data u have had some 509s work and other fail horribly get over it
@@thegunpenguin You do realize 35k is quite common with good pistols, I.e Glocks/HKs/Sigs. It’s not Magic at all… it’s basically the standard. Look up the P365 50k round review. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would’ve said “35k? So what?” 😂
@@thegunpenguin Yes. That one. But unlike Sig; the 509 is one of, if not the only, SF pistol with a CHF crowned barrel so when you hit those high rounds you still have exceptional accuracy.
You know the CZcams algorithm is extreme when you have to make gun videos to get your music out there.
That’s what it’s all about!
I had a compact model for about 8 months in 2020-2021. In those 8 months I put roughly 1200 rounds through it and had the firing pin break. Replaced it with an apex striker and sold it.
Thanks for the info! And I'm sorry you had trouble too!
My experience with a 509M is the same as yours. Wanted to really like it but when the striker broke at 301 rounds I shipped it back to FN for repair then traded it for a G19
Look, a gun video that is not about the latest Sig 365 iteration. Thank you
Great video! I had a question, do you have rust issues with your 442 since you live in a humid state?
Thanks! Luckily, no! My 442 is rust-free.
The dark room w/ comfy chair looks like one of those moments where a villain turns the chair slowly with a silenced tomcat,
“no mr bond i expect you to die lol”
awesome vids Mr🐧! Made my morning poop more enjoyable
The Void is where I actually live most of the time.
Years ago I spoke to one of their armorer's shortly after they adopted the Beretta 92 & the S&W 59 series, I would estimate around 1988. He was pretty detailed about what the LAPD Firearms unit thought of the Beretta 92 & the S&W. They were very Impressed with the Beretta 92 to say the least! But he did admit that since the US Defense Dept test's which led to the adoption of the Beretta 92 In 1985 was used as a short cut by the LAPD and quite a few other US LE Agencies, why spend their own time & money testing pistols when the US Government did it for them! Your thought's about the FN 509 reminded me about some other thumbs down comments I've heard about this handgun. It's my understanding that the 509 trigger group has a lot of parts in it? I can't verify that and I'm not going to buy one anytime soon to find out! This is the reason why Glock has such a large chunk of the US LE market, the Glock is soooo easy to repair. I also heard Bill Wilson complain about the complicated trigger group In the Sig P320!
Man, you always have great info!
Yeah, though I was a bit hyperbolic about it in the video, the trigger mechanism is more complicated than a lot of the competitors.
Great review as always. I was not a fan of the 509 sold mine after a few months. BTW your malfunctions the gun looks oversprung. Doesn’t FN include 2 RSAs one for suppressed and a lighter one for unsuppressed?
Ah forgive me you did evaluate the RSAs. I’d be interested to hear hat FN says. My one call to them regarding my 509 they seemed completely disinterested in fixing anything. Rather claiming all the issues were normal.
No worries at all! I had the same thought about the spring and swapped them back and forth a few times. I'm still not convinced that a weaker spring wouldn't help, if only somebody made one. I'm sorry you had issues with yours too.
It's always great to hear from you, and thanks for the info!
I've handled a few FN509s. When TGP says that trigger is creaky he isn't kidding. Worst trigger I think I've felt overall on an $700 polymer striker gun. The Sig P320 even has a better trigger than it. Just don't drop it lol
Has the trigger quality varied on the ones you handled, or were they all pretty much the same?
@@thegunpenguin they all have been creaky, with a wide variance with trigger weight pull, some really bad, and some on the level of gen 5 glock.
It makes more sense to buy a gen 5 mos glock than this gun.
@@joshuabracke5775 Ahhh I see! Thanks for the info!
FN seems to be in a slump. Their pistols have just been ok at best, the original SCAR’s were cool, but they can’t even rechamber those successfully, and they will void the warranty if you put a silencer on them.
What the hell FN.
@@forrest225 I didn't know that about suppressor use. On the one hand, that's hilarious. On the other, if I owned a SCAR, that would make me quite angry.
Thanks for another plastic box device review
I love the 509T and it has been a two year struggle with aftermarket stuff to make it acceptable and I am still not there yet. 😢
The Tenifer Chronicles keep me coming back video after video. What exciting Shamalan-ian twist will happen next?!
Tune in next time to find out! Will she and Horse escape? Will they become love servants to an amish porn mogul? Who knows!
Man that sucks that yours has so many problems. Honestly I'm surprised because I have had zero malfs in three years (I'm not counting the occasional hard primer), and a round count somewhere between 2 and 3k. Definitely have never had a stovepipe. Caveats: I did the whole Apex jig and trigger job, I use the yellow recoil spring exclusively, and I swapped in the Apex heavy duty striker. My main complaint is that the slide stop is easy to ride which messes with lrho if I'm not paying attention (usually when switching from other pistols). My other complaint is the high cost out of the box, and that it doesn't come with a decent trigger despite the price.
Edit: all in all, I'm pretty happy with the pistol, and I trust it to go bang when I want it to.
I know you didn't try, but doesn't Apex trigger install also cause problems with 509. Like you easily break something on the frames.
I should check up on this bexore asking.
No it dosent
I’ve heard the same thing! But I don’t have any first-hand information.
Great gun review Mr. penguin. I came for the review stayed for the Mennonite erotica.
This guy gets it.
"In a world of compromise, some don't" -Hk.
I've definitely lucked out on my 509 and got one that was made on a Wednesday. The double action only trigger does leave a lot to be desired and even trying to get in there to give it a Dremel polish is a pain in the f****** ass. I've avoided any Striker and or firing pin issues so far. I do have the Apex upgrade kit waiting though complete with trigger and heavy duty Striker.
Great info! I could deal with the trigger if mine worked as well as competing designs. Talking to folks before I filmed the review, these either seem to work flawlessly, or are nothing but trouble, depending on the individual gun you get. But that's just anecdotal info.
@@thegunpenguin in a perfect world FN would realize you would be a decent consultant to bring in at a very affordable price. It does seem like they just did not give a s*** about handguns until the 5/7. They've got that edge and that new 509 they're pushing hard now. I'd like to see the entire series of pistols be Revisited with a mark 2 iteration. Keep the things that are working right and really work on the trigger Striker and certain other aspects of the weapon series.
Man, I'm honored that would consider me worthy of consulting! Hell, they could pay me in Zesto's.
@@thegunpenguin You will save more in hotel costs than anyone with your location, you shoot and run an FFL. In a perfect world, it makes sense.
@@lasombra120680 If only! I think we've found my dream job.
Always heard that these almost required 124gr NATO spec rds to function as they should. I've come close a few times to purchasing an FN.. be it 509, FNX, etc. But I never feel like the feel is representative of the price when I get them in my hands. 🤷🏼 They look cool...My M&P 10mm is also in the 1000rd "break-in" club lol... So frustrating.
Very surprised that LAPD has authorized the FN509 for it's officers....Very surprised!
How rigorous is their testing, just out of curiosity?
This channel could do with more gun hipster BDSM Horse , asking for a friend
I used one of these extensively for work. I was thoroughly unimpressed, & yearned for any one of my CZs.
I hear they have a new subcompact coming out. But it’s 1500$
That's very expensive!
Terrific. I missed another chat. Just Terrific! (sarcasm)
Let me rephrase that. I wanted to show up while you were live. I'll try to not miss the next one.
I just hope that all my firearms are pretty decent even if I'll waste money for upgrades.
FYI, they're not from your store. I live outta state. Not sure if you all get my point, but, for now I'll just leave it at that.
I remember telling you how much I liked that gun a few years back. I shot the regular 509 the trigger was terrible I'm pretty spoiled though being a long time walther shooter. The ergos were great though and the tactical is bad ass looking.
The weird thing is, I had shorter experiences with the gun in the past and loved it. But when I had access to one all the time, the problem because apparent. That's what really sucks about this gun -- it's almost fantastic.
@@thegunpenguin I've seen other reviews over the past 5 years with the same issues. My pdp is still running smooth! Cant wait till you review that!
@@magicd5780 I'm glad, and very interesting!
pLaStIc sTrYkEr 🔥🔥🔥
Had the 509 MRD even after the spring kit and new striker etc , plenty of break in time it was meh at best , overpriced made it hurt more .
How many problems did you have, and what were they? Also, did the spring kit help? Thanks for the info!
My experience with the 509 was similar to yours.
I was really expecting that for the price it would be a major improvement over standard striker-fired pistols. It really seems like FN has only ever made mediocre, middle of the road striker pistols because the FNS was also a mediocre entry
Anyway that's why I only trust FN to excel with their hammer-fired pistols
I'm sorry you had a similar experience! It's a shame really -- it seems like the makings of a great pistol are in there.
@@thegunpenguin The biggest part of what makes me sad about their striker guns. Is that for the price you expect them to be better? And at this rate if you're going to get an FN pistol, get something hammer fired
I think you and the gunhipster need to do a Collab or get in contact with each other.
I’d love to, but I’m not sure who that is! Point me in the right direction!
It’s hard to not review a brown or black plastic striker fired gun. That’s what everyone makes now.
You’re right!
Sounded so frustrated 😠
could it be magazine...or break in period...never heard of an fn having issues
You must not go out much then.
@Oliver Unto you sound really knowledgeable and not at all unpleasant. Everyone’s really impressed.
Watch the nutnfancy vid on the 509, nutn has led me astray a few times, but the 509 fucked with him too from what i can recall. The only FNs ill own will be in the 5.7 caliber
@Oliver Unto Chill dude, not knowing 1 gun was sketch isn't exactly a crime.
@@0sm1um76 but we can make it into one.
You must be sponsored by Glock, young man. I've had my 509 for 8 years and shot a full box of Winchester White Box through it with no failures. Despicable bias from you, sir 😤😤😤
509 is a proof that Americans can't manufacture handguns.
You are forgetting that Sig Sauer in made in New Hampshire, live free or die
Thank you for proving Don’s point.
B-but muh two World Wars!!
If you buy a 509, you’ll have a great tank of a pistol. Go ask your local Range Rental Officers how their 509’s are doing. I’ve seen plenty 509’s over 35k rounds with zero reported malfunctions, mine is 2k with zero issues. Look up how the 509 did compared to other pistols in the LAPD trials (It Won). Go get actual data before you put a review out, literally every manufacturer has lemons leave the factory.
35,000 rounds with no malfunctions! Wow! These must be magic guns! Everybody did you hear that? They finally made a Magic Gun!
In other news, you're mad, and I love it. I feast on your tears.
I would litterally use any of the other pistols u can use if i was lapd lol i actual did have actual data u have had some 509s work and other fail horribly get over it
@@thegunpenguin You do realize 35k is quite common with good pistols, I.e Glocks/HKs/Sigs. It’s not Magic at all… it’s basically the standard. Look up the P365 50k round review. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would’ve said “35k? So what?” 😂
@@KennyRodgers930 Ah yes, the very legitimate, perfectly sound and completely excellent 50k 365 test!
@@thegunpenguin Yes. That one. But unlike Sig; the 509 is one of, if not the only, SF pistol with a CHF crowned barrel so when you hit those high rounds you still have exceptional accuracy.