I'm a 1911 person so I found myself not wanting to shoot my Glocks because of the triggers on them. When this new Glock trigger came out I bought four of them for my Gen 5 Glocks. I love it, now 3.5 lbs. trigger I find myself shooting and carrying my Glocks much more. Great tutorial on the performance trigger.
Very helpful video. You've explained the functioning of this new performance trigger better than any of the dozen other videos I've seen on the subject.
What I appreciate with the Performance Trigger is the very minimal movement once the trigger breaks. Plus if I ever have to use the firearm for personal defense the fact it’s an OEM Glock trigger is comforting. Having an aftermarket trigger from another manufacturer could very easily trip you up in court.
lmfao no it could not "trip you up in court". if it could this would be just as bad. "my good people of the jury this person installed an extremely dangerous COMPETITION TRIGGER to make the weapon easier to kill people with". Stop spreading fudd lore
Really enjoyed this video, as you make some excellent points. I especially like the stock Glock gen 3 triggers, as I love the very hard wall with virtually no movement (creep) before crisp break, and a very strong tactile reset. My experience has been similar to yours, when it comes to shooting polymer plastic strikers. I don't see as much of a difference as some people do, whether it's my Walther PDP, CZP10, Springfield XD40, Sig P320 or Canik. I basically shoot them all the same, as I also prefer my Beretta 92FS or Sig P229 to shoot.
I totally relate to the vntage Strat analogy, being a former musician myself. When I first got my G17 I bought some parts to "upgrade" including a lighter trigger doohicky. The Houge overgrip is good for my long fingers, as is the extended takedown catch. After one range session where the gun fired when I wasn't ready, I went home and reinstalled the stock item immediatly. As you say, just get another guitar for the different need, should you have one. More fun that way.
This is the first Glock trigger that adresse the biggest problem with the OEM part: the mushiness, not the weight. It was mechanically impossible for aftermarket triggers to accomplished this, as all they could do is change surface angles and materials. Adding a physical sear to the mechanism put the Glock Performance Center in another category.
Brotha man i appreciate this review! KEEP IT UP! NOW im gonna recommend something for you lol After trying out a few AM extended mag releases Im pretty confident on recommending the GHOST inc X release for gen 4/5. Cheap and a perfect solution. You're welcome
with some polishing and a minus connector, my original glock trigger system works just fine in competition .. but yes, i like to try something smoother and i think glock performance trigger may be the answer .. thanks for your insights ❤❤
Mr Penguin what sights have you installed on your rmr mounted g45 ? I concluded with your findings on the performance trigger , it runs ok in my book no issues. The best thing I found it decreases sight disturbance to a minimum over stock trigger. Thanks K
I have a G19X w/ the stock upper & the $180 Complete SW4 Gatormouth cut Dagger Upper. I installed an OW Precision flat TAC trigger, Master trigger spring kit, 3lb black yikes connector, polished everything, a 15lb steel recoil spring & with the Dagger Upper on? I get a very short & extremely smooth 2.7lb pull w/ a very short forced reset. If I put the stock upper back on? I get a gritty long 5lb pull. So I'm running the Dagger Upper w/ the HE "elite" 407c x2 green 2moa dot.
NGL I just like the stock Glock gen5 trigger. I shoot it just fine and the reset is so easy for me to snap back to. Thanks for the video, I watched it all. Probably won’t ever buy one but thanks.
I have never had a problem with any stock Glock trigger, as they do what they're supposed to. Never meant to be a target/competition trigger, but great self-defense combat reliable trigger. I also think the reset is the best of all the polymer plastic strikers, not the shortest, but strongest most tactile, and as you say the way it snaps back. I notice a lot of these aftermarket Glock triggers that my shooting buddies put on, make that great stock reset a little mushy.
@@thegunpenguin I have never had a problem with any stock Glock trigger, as they do what they're supposed to. Never meant to be a target/competition trigger, but great self-defense combat reliable trigger. I also think the reset is the best of all the plastic strikers, not the shortest, but certainly strongest and most tactile. I notice a lot of these aftermarket Glock triggers that my shooting buddies put on, make that great stock reset a little mushy.
The standard Glock trigger is great. I traded a 320c for a G19 but I had to ask the guy for all the OEM parts and he thought I was crazy. Never felt like I needed anything extra and it was a excellent gun till I sold it. If I get a Glock again I would only get a striker control device, trijicon HDs, and leave everything else stock. Great video TGP!
If you like the pdp trigger you will like this trigger, its much better than my vp9 trigger as the travel to the first wall is much shorter than the vp9.
Is that the Griffin barrel and micro comp? Curious if you timed it or just put it up tight, and how much recoil reduction are you feeling 10%, 20% etc..?? Liked and subscribed thank you 👍
I've never understood the whole self-defense trigger competition trigger thing either your finger should be on the trigger or it shouldn't and if your finger needs to be on the trigger you're about to shoot somebody anyway so what difference does it make
The Gen 5 trigger is way better than all the others Glock put in their guns. No blade still sticking out on the pull. Glock makes a fortune in aftermarket parts from not improving even simple improvements like the plastic sights.
I'm trying to pick out a Gen 3 trigger for my upcoming "Brokeland Special" build I'm putting together (SCT19 frame+PSA dagger complete slide) and frankly I might just go with the stock Gen 3 trigger, or at very least stock trigger with a nice lever or something, idk. I don't really have an insane desire to put in something crazy though
The more i bought triggers for my Glock, 1st Johnny Glock's Combat, then my own mods, then a Timney, the more I realized the stick trigger is a perfect blend of safety and feel.
I pick up my G 19x next week. I ordered the performance trigger it will be here before the gun. Should I just install the trigger or try them both? I’m brand new to guns this will be my first.
Hi! Congratulations on your G19! This is just the perspective of one internet weirdo, but I'd recommend learning the stock trigger first, for a variety of reasons. If you've purchased the gun for defense, the performance trigger will be a bit light for a new gun owner. Under duress, our performance drops considerably, a very light trigger could be a potential danger without practice and instruction. The rebuttal will be, "But your finger shouldn't be on the trigger until you intend to fire." Yes, that's true, but who knows what your brain will do when in a very stressful situation, and you don't have decades of experience to fall back on. Past that, the stock trigger won't hinder your performance. I'm not a believer that the Glock is the greatest handgun design since the dawn of time, sheer perfection in a metal and plastic wrapper. But, Glocks are very well-designed, and the stock trigger's perceived negative qualities can just as easily be considered positive ones, especially for a new gun owner. You'd also be learning to use the most common, or one of the most common, trigger systems around. Even if you never intend to fully master the stock Glock trigger, it never hurts to be gun omnivorous, and learn them all. More subjectively, I think the stock trigger is quite nice once broken in. I rarely respond to comments because I'm just some CZcams idiot with little to offer, but I hope that helps all the same! Lastly, I'd recommend getting a second and third opinion, just to be safe.
I love my Glock 32. Fucking amazing weapon. Reliable as it gets. I have the performance trigger and it's nice. Improvement over the stock trigger. However, even the performance trigger is blown away by the stock triggers (out of the box) on my Caniks. My TP9 Elite SC is my rotating EDC with my G32.
I’ve been shooting Glocks for years. I’ve had no problems with the factor stock trigger. Regardless I bought the performance trigger and stuck it in a G19. It works just fine. If a person is new to Glocks I wouldn’t recommend them shooting with the performance trigger until they get use to the factory trigger just due to the fact that it is a lot litter trigger pull.
To be honest , I'm here just for the music and the friendly penguin. I don't own a Glock, firearm, or the proper licenses to buy a gun in my country. Passionate people are just interesting, I want to hear what excites you.
@@thegunpenguin Btw, used to setup/repair guitars for 8 years in an Amsterdam shop and share your feelings on tweaking things too far. Tried everything I wanted and played so many, that you realize that certain guitars just need to do the thing they are great at. Floyd rose on a Strat is definitely cursed, hope all the tiny hex screws weren't mangled by some ham-fisted idiot with the wrong hex key. Did make my first cheap Stagg strat into a pseudo baritone guitar once just for fun, had to drill out the machine heads for the hilariously thicc bass strings and filed the saddles to make them fit haha (made a new nut) Gotta have some fun and see how far you can go sometimes Also stopped seeing guitars as some sort of magical objects, they are just tools and you gotta find one that does the thing you want Anyways, could go on for hours. If you ever want to talk guitars hit me up lol Cheers! Vera
@@VeraTR909 I'm always down for guitar talk! Always! And it's super cool that you've worked in the industry! Luthiers is a rarer and rarer job each year. I've filmed some luthiery content for the channel but I'm afraid no one would watch it. I view something like a Stagg as an ideal platform for mods. You get to test out new stuff, and if you don't like the experiment, you're not out all the money, but it's still a great guitar. Generally, it seems like, if you're going to convert a guitar into something wildly different, there's already a cheaper guitar that's configured exactly the way you need, and it tends to work better. That 1970 Strat that had been routed never stayed in tune, even with the Floyd. It would've been better for him to just buy a Charvel or something.
My ppq scares me especially with apex flat trigger its very light too light definitely great for competition shooting but stockntrigger gives moree feedba c l
Anyone else have a G47 and the Glock Performance Trigger dingus gets hung up on the frame unless you get your finger in the trigger shoe juuuuust right...otherwise making the trigger pull clunky? I do...and I even tried the Vickers Gen5 shoe and it still happens. However, the OEM G47 trigger/shoe/dingus has no issues. Am I alone?
Been shooting standard Glock triggers reliably forever; however, have to admit the new trigger package feels much better than stock. More enjoyable for sure. My take, I prefer an OEM package over all the aftermarket shit that is out there, especially for EDC. At the end of the day, I’d you want something lighter and better than the Glock then go buy that gun. I agree with letting Glock’s be Glock’s…
You didn’t show the problem Johnny Glock pointed out . When the triggers pulled and then you cycle the slide the trigger goes back further and I’m asking can you feel that under live fire
This PGT is definitely a step up. I love it, and I don't imagine my glocks without it. I shoot better and much faster. I'm in the counter terrorism branch.
I know you said all that stuff about trigger, but the only thing on my mind at the end of the video is how those front serrations GLOCK added to the front of the pistol makes it look absolutely ugly to me. I mean, who in the hell racks their slide from there anyway? IJS.
Yes make the Glock trigger more like P320 so the Glock goes off at the drop of a gun……I mean the drop of a hat! Precocked striker a no manual safety…..what could possibly go wrong? 😂😂😂😂😂
1:02 You didn't have to go and insult my beliefs. I dont watch gun videos to even think about chopping babies. But you're obviously ok with baby killing.
Best GPT review I’ve seen so far. Great cadence, use of humor and facts. “Let the Glock be a Glock”. Well said.
I'm a 1911 person so I found myself not wanting to shoot my Glocks because of the triggers on them. When this new Glock trigger came out I bought four of them for my Gen 5 Glocks. I love it, now 3.5 lbs. trigger I find myself shooting and carrying my Glocks much more. Great tutorial on the performance trigger.
Very helpful video. You've explained the functioning of this new performance trigger better than any of the dozen other videos I've seen on the subject.
One of the most informed and entertaining firearms channels on TY. Always happy to watch your content brother. Hope you are well.
Great demo and summation of the mechanical operation, especially the firing pin safety. Thanks!
Enjoyed the thoughtful and witty commentary.
Great Job reviewing this product!
What I appreciate with the Performance Trigger is the very minimal movement once the trigger breaks. Plus if I ever have to use the firearm for personal defense the fact it’s an OEM Glock trigger is comforting. Having an aftermarket trigger from another manufacturer could very easily trip you up in court.
lmfao no it could not "trip you up in court". if it could this would be just as bad. "my good people of the jury this person installed an extremely dangerous COMPETITION TRIGGER to make the weapon easier to kill people with". Stop spreading fudd lore
Good point. Just remember to remove the Punisher logo back plate 😅
Great video (how have I not subscribed sooner). Just installed my GPT (pun intended) and really enjoyed it on the range.
Ive had mine trigger in for a few days, its a game changer.
Really enjoyed this video, as you make some excellent points. I especially like the stock Glock gen 3 triggers, as I love the very hard wall with virtually no movement (creep) before crisp break, and a very strong tactile reset. My experience has been similar to yours, when it comes to shooting polymer plastic strikers. I don't see as much of a difference as some people do, whether it's my Walther PDP, CZP10, Springfield XD40, Sig P320 or Canik. I basically shoot them all the same, as I also prefer my Beretta 92FS or Sig P229 to shoot.
Thanks! I also really enjoy the stock Glock triggers. They feel great!
I totally relate to the vntage Strat analogy, being a former musician myself. When I first got my G17 I bought some parts to "upgrade" including a lighter trigger doohicky. The Houge overgrip is good for my long fingers, as is the extended takedown catch. After one range session where the gun fired when I wasn't ready, I went home and reinstalled the stock item immediatly.
As you say, just get another guitar for the different need, should you have one. More fun that way.
So well said and done! Stock Gen 5 works great for me.
This is the first Glock trigger that adresse the biggest problem with the OEM part: the mushiness, not the weight. It was mechanically impossible for aftermarket triggers to accomplished this, as all they could do is change surface angles and materials. Adding a physical sear to the mechanism put the Glock Performance Center in another category.
Brotha man i appreciate this review! KEEP IT UP!
NOW im gonna recommend something for you lol
After trying out a few AM extended mag releases Im pretty confident on recommending the GHOST inc X release for gen 4/5.
Cheap and a perfect solution.
You're welcome
with some polishing and a minus connector, my original glock trigger system works just fine in competition .. but yes, i like to try something smoother and i think glock performance trigger may be the answer .. thanks for your insights ❤❤
Excellent video. Thank you !!
Great video man 🤘🏻
21 minutes of talking about cocking. Truly a video
legit made me lol
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
So that's why I feel sick?
@@thegunpenguinno, they gave you a Glock instead of a H&K🤣
Mr Penguin what sights have you installed on your rmr mounted g45 ? I concluded with your findings on the performance trigger , it runs ok in my book no issues. The best thing I found it decreases sight disturbance to a minimum over stock trigger. Thanks K
I have a G19X w/ the stock upper & the $180 Complete SW4 Gatormouth cut Dagger Upper.
I installed an OW Precision flat TAC trigger, Master trigger spring kit, 3lb black yikes connector, polished everything, a 15lb steel recoil spring & with the Dagger Upper on?
I get a very short & extremely smooth 2.7lb pull w/ a very short forced reset.
If I put the stock upper back on? I get a gritty long 5lb pull. So I'm running the Dagger Upper w/ the HE "elite" 407c x2 green 2moa dot.
NGL I just like the stock Glock gen5 trigger. I shoot it just fine and the reset is so easy for me to snap back to. Thanks for the video, I watched it all. Probably won’t ever buy one but thanks.
Thanks for watching! And I'm with you -- I very much enjoy the stock trigger.
The G45 has a nice trigger for a Glock, right outta the box. Still getting used to the GPT but having fun doing so.
I have never had a problem with any stock Glock trigger, as they do what they're supposed to. Never meant to be a target/competition trigger, but great self-defense combat reliable trigger. I also think the reset is the best of all the polymer plastic strikers, not the shortest, but strongest most tactile, and as you say the way it snaps back. I notice a lot of these aftermarket Glock triggers that my shooting buddies put on, make that great stock reset a little mushy.
@@thegunpenguin I have never had a problem with any stock Glock trigger, as they do what they're supposed to. Never meant to be a target/competition trigger, but great self-defense combat reliable trigger. I also think the reset is the best of all the plastic strikers, not the shortest, but certainly strongest and most tactile. I notice a lot of these aftermarket Glock triggers that my shooting buddies put on, make that great stock reset a little mushy.
The standard Glock trigger is great. I traded a 320c for a G19 but I had to ask the guy for all the OEM parts and he thought I was crazy. Never felt like I needed anything extra and it was a excellent gun till I sold it. If I get a Glock again I would only get a striker control device, trijicon HDs, and leave everything else stock. Great video TGP!
Thanks! I'm with you -- I personally enjoy the stock trigger.
Just wondering, could you make more of a wall by installing a higher poundage connector?
If you like the pdp trigger you will like this trigger, its much better than my vp9 trigger as the travel to the first wall is much shorter than the vp9.
Nothing will ever be better than the Timney Alpha
I also like the stock Glock trigger but I grew up shooting revolvers. I prefer the Competition trigger or the Gen 5. I think both are fine
Is that the Griffin barrel and micro comp? Curious if you timed it or just put it up tight, and how much recoil reduction are you feeling 10%, 20% etc..?? Liked and subscribed thank you 👍
13:37 what mounting plate is that for your Trijicon?
Hi
Where are the oil points with this Glock performance trigger
I've never understood the whole self-defense trigger competition trigger thing either your finger should be on the trigger or it shouldn't and if your finger needs to be on the trigger you're about to shoot somebody anyway so what difference does it make
The Gen 5 trigger is way better than all the others Glock put in their guns. No blade still sticking out on the pull. Glock makes a fortune in aftermarket parts from not improving even simple improvements like the plastic sights.
I'm trying to pick out a Gen 3 trigger for my upcoming "Brokeland Special" build I'm putting together (SCT19 frame+PSA dagger complete slide) and frankly I might just go with the stock Gen 3 trigger, or at very least stock trigger with a nice lever or something, idk. I don't really have an insane desire to put in something crazy though
I think the stock trigger is fine! It kind of feels good.
I have the Glock performan triguer on my Glock 19 gen 5, we are going to the range this weekeng to test the triguer, it’s short!
I feel the slight increase to resistance of the cycling.
The more i bought triggers for my Glock, 1st Johnny Glock's Combat, then my own mods, then a Timney, the more I realized the stick trigger is a perfect blend of safety and feel.
My gen5 g20 stock trigger is just as good as my overwatch precision flat trigger albeit its just a hair slower doing speed drill
I agree my glock 20 gen 5 stock trigger even at 75ft getting teriffuc tifht groups
Properly done.
Hope they make some for the G3,G4
I pick up my G 19x next week. I ordered the performance trigger it will be here before the gun. Should I just install the trigger or try them both? I’m brand new to guns this will be my first.
Hi! Congratulations on your G19! This is just the perspective of one internet weirdo, but I'd recommend learning the stock trigger first, for a variety of reasons.
If you've purchased the gun for defense, the performance trigger will be a bit light for a new gun owner. Under duress, our performance drops considerably, a very light trigger could be a potential danger without practice and instruction.
The rebuttal will be, "But your finger shouldn't be on the trigger until you intend to fire." Yes, that's true, but who knows what your brain will do when in a very stressful situation, and you don't have decades of experience to fall back on.
Past that, the stock trigger won't hinder your performance. I'm not a believer that the Glock is the greatest handgun design since the dawn of time, sheer perfection in a metal and plastic wrapper. But, Glocks are very well-designed, and the stock trigger's perceived negative qualities can just as easily be considered positive ones, especially for a new gun owner.
You'd also be learning to use the most common, or one of the most common, trigger systems around. Even if you never intend to fully master the stock Glock trigger, it never hurts to be gun omnivorous, and learn them all.
More subjectively, I think the stock trigger is quite nice once broken in.
I rarely respond to comments because I'm just some CZcams idiot with little to offer, but I hope that helps all the same! Lastly, I'd recommend getting a second and third opinion, just to be safe.
I love my Glock 32. Fucking amazing weapon. Reliable as it gets. I have the performance trigger and it's nice. Improvement over the stock trigger. However, even the performance trigger is blown away by the stock triggers (out of the box) on my Caniks. My TP9 Elite SC is my rotating EDC with my G32.
I’ve been shooting Glocks for years. I’ve had no problems with the factor stock trigger. Regardless I bought the performance trigger and stuck it in a G19. It works just fine. If a person is new to Glocks I wouldn’t recommend them shooting with the performance trigger until they get use to the factory trigger just due to the fact that it is a lot litter trigger pull.
The springfield XD meme lmao 🤣
Sub’d
All these talking of firmness, Pre cocking and fingers touching things makes me feel a certain way. Also, no BDSM horse, -20 social credit.
All fair points.
To be honest , I'm here just for the music and the friendly penguin. I don't own a Glock, firearm, or the proper licenses to buy a gun in my country.
Passionate people are just interesting, I want to hear what excites you.
You're awesome! Thank you for watching!
@@thegunpenguin Btw, used to setup/repair guitars for 8 years in an Amsterdam shop and share your feelings on tweaking things too far. Tried everything I wanted and played so many, that you realize that certain guitars just need to do the thing they are great at. Floyd rose on a Strat is definitely cursed, hope all the tiny hex screws weren't mangled by some ham-fisted idiot with the wrong hex key.
Did make my first cheap Stagg strat into a pseudo baritone guitar once just for fun, had to drill out the machine heads for the hilariously thicc bass strings and filed the saddles to make them fit haha (made a new nut)
Gotta have some fun and see how far you can go sometimes
Also stopped seeing guitars as some sort of magical objects, they are just tools and you gotta find one that does the thing you want
Anyways, could go on for hours. If you ever want to talk guitars hit me up lol
Cheers!
Vera
@@VeraTR909 I'm always down for guitar talk! Always! And it's super cool that you've worked in the industry! Luthiers is a rarer and rarer job each year. I've filmed some luthiery content for the channel but I'm afraid no one would watch it.
I view something like a Stagg as an ideal platform for mods. You get to test out new stuff, and if you don't like the experiment, you're not out all the money, but it's still a great guitar.
Generally, it seems like, if you're going to convert a guitar into something wildly different, there's already a cheaper guitar that's configured exactly the way you need, and it tends to work better. That 1970 Strat that had been routed never stayed in tune, even with the Floyd. It would've been better for him to just buy a Charvel or something.
My ppq scares me especially with apex flat trigger its very light too light definitely great for competition shooting but stockntrigger gives moree feedba c l
The Walther trigger is King
Love the video! How's the 40 treating ya theses days?
Thanks for watching! I still love the 40. It is, without a doubt, one of my favorite handguns of all time.
@@thegunpenguin would love to see another video on it. One of my favorites
Penguin.... Haven't seen an upload in a bit but hope you're doing well. ✌️
Anyone else have a G47 and the Glock Performance Trigger dingus gets hung up on the frame unless you get your finger in the trigger shoe juuuuust right...otherwise making the trigger pull clunky? I do...and I even tried the Vickers Gen5 shoe and it still happens. However, the OEM G47 trigger/shoe/dingus has no issues. Am I alone?
Glock admitted that is an issue my gen 5 glock 20 stock trigger is just fine
@@jackomalley3687 Can you point me in the right direction where Glock admitted this?
@@InJasonsGarageits a known issue but a work around is to just remember to pull straight back
You could remove just enough from the tab to clear the frame without compromising safety.
i have a g45 and its great. if i want the buttery soft trigger ill just shoot my cz po9. that gun is broken in nearly 2k rounds
LOL!!! i love this guy!
Run that,baby!!!
#ballistol ❤
Been shooting standard Glock triggers reliably forever; however, have to admit the new trigger package feels much better than stock. More enjoyable for sure. My take, I prefer an OEM package over all the aftermarket shit that is out there, especially for EDC. At the end of the day, I’d you want something lighter and better than the Glock then go buy that gun. I agree with letting Glock’s be Glock’s…
Yes I been waiting patiently. Btw did you get any of my emails my email is whack right now?
I'll check! I rarely open that mailbox.
Hey brother just a heads up I don’t receive any of your notifications. Think CZcams might’ve put you on the bad boy list.
that's cool and all sir but what da 92a1 doin
You didn’t show the problem Johnny Glock pointed out . When the triggers pulled and then you cycle the slide the trigger goes back further and I’m asking can you feel that under live fire
But will you talk to me soon? Will you!?!?
Ehhhhhh Define "soon".
This PGT is definitely a step up. I love it, and I don't imagine my glocks without it. I shoot better and much faster. I'm in the counter terrorism branch.
Well well well Mr. Penguin where have you been?
You know how I do. Gotta disappear for 2 months at random, and then pop back up outta nowhere!
@@thegunpenguinquality content comes with a price.
I'll let you know when I make something of quality.
Its all well done Mr Penguin
I know you said all that stuff about trigger, but the only thing on my mind at the end of the video is how those front serrations GLOCK added to the front of the pistol makes it look absolutely ugly to me. I mean, who in the hell racks their slide from there anyway? IJS.
Another slide slammer. Give me strength.
Clearly you need some emotional strength to get through this trying moment in your life. I hope you have people close to you who can provide support.
Meh I shoot ‘em ok, I carry a Glock. But still love the DASA guns 🤌🏻
DA/SA is definitely my preference as well. I love striker-fired guns, but I secretly wish I was shooting my Berettas or HKs.
Yes make the Glock trigger more like P320 so the Glock goes off at the drop of a gun……I mean the drop of a hat! Precocked striker a no manual safety…..what could possibly go wrong? 😂😂😂😂😂
1:02
You didn't have to go and insult my beliefs. I dont watch gun videos to even think about chopping babies.
But you're obviously ok with baby killing.