This Was Actually Meta ? The Story of Hydrogeddon
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lmao I'm Dan Hletko, Joe's brother, I'm gonna send him this
Nice ! Please do, I'd love for him to see it.
Lmao please ask Joe if he can sign my 23 copies of Hydrogeddon please
What was the reaction?
People today don't know how *_fast_* it felt, swarming the field with three bodies after merely normal summoning one monster and attacking.
crazy that it wasn't that long ago either
I mean hydreigon , giant germ, gravekeeper's spy and nimble mamonga served as the core monsters of Monarch Control/Beatdown back in the day
@@michaelkeha But those were passive, set and wait for your opponent to do the job.
_Irrelevant to the point but Hydreigon prayed on Momongas and Giant Germs too_ :P
The Chaos Monsters (BLS, CED, Sorc), Cyber Dragons, and Gravekeeper Spy existed back then. Hell, even Reasoning and Monster Gate made the Reasoning Gate deck viable in GOAT format.
@@cookiecutter6735 didn't really matter unless your opponent also opponent hydreigon it was usually a guaranteed 1 to 2 tribute fodders on the board come your next turn and you can start dropping Monarchs or Jinzo at that point and just sledgehammer the opponent
I miss the days when Yugioh duels lasted more than 2 turns.
They still do, it's called Mystic Mine matches. XD
@@mathunit1 it is kind of a lie honestly because 2 of the best deck in the format past were control deck and proving that duel still can go more then 2 turn and to be fair were one of the most skillful in the last time
@@dragullongblackfang8073 um pretty much every combo deck these days is technically control deck simply because you sit on a board like 10 negates but that's not true control neither were decks like salamangreat they were combo decks with a control deck closest we got is guru control and even then eh
@@michaelkeha i name it combo control huge difference what make salaameangreat more a cotrol deck then a combo deck is that they first turn is not as impressive as other decks but it self relivant and can do the combo over and over again it is a fair deck in a sense look at a deck like sky striker which litterly have only 1 broken card and the rest is fair and grindy control deck whith not so good finisher
It's time for the future,, it's about winning fast as possible useing meta decks and handtraps and kaijusto win, I'm one of them
Bastion got more respect in real life than in the anime.
Oof
His manga deck got more respect
His manga decks were actually cool
i mean, he did seem to be a lolicon
The guy fucked a tiger.
Funny thing is Hydrogeddon ended up being meta for a month or two in the GX era of Duel Links for similar reasons. It's funny how some cards in Duel Links end up following their TCG legacy as well.
Omar Valentini it won’t. It’s too slow. You’ll get OTKd and your opponent is unlikely to leave a 1,5k monster turn 1(1,7 is you play the UMI skill)
@Omar Valentini Not when it can't run anything over, the best shot it has is deneb but it will need miscsaurs and that's a UR in a main box that most people don't have 3 of.
Do you think Konami will ban the Synchro meta decks to make people use XYZ decks like the March 2012 banlist?
I remember using wall of disruption on a field packed with dinosaurs and just leaving the field like that because I knew they would deck out before me, and they had no way to remove their own 0ATK monsters. Funny times
@@youwayo Is that why Shiranui is still tier 1 and no Xyz deck is tiered?
I remember running Hydrogeddon in my Monarch deck. Cyber Dragon and hydrogeddon was a really good setup for tribute fodder the next turn. Raiza, Caius, Prime Material Dragon, and Dark Dust Spirit made it so you could react to any situation your opponent put you in
Looking back at GX, I realise that a lot of anime archetypes didn't really use Fusions much. Majourity of the villians used regular tribute monsters and a lot of times characters had a boss monster which was a NOMI monster. Bastion is the prime example of this. H2O Dragon should've been a Fusion but just isn't for some reason. 5Ds had a very similar problem.
Zexel, went in the complete opposite direction with everyone using Xyzs.
Don't forget Bastion was supposed to get a fire dragon I wonder how that would've been?
I never see GX as a generation instead more of an update to DM much like Pokemon Johto to Kanto.
Gx is the worst season for a reason, cause it's just trash
As I remember lots of the GX character started with fusion monster such as Jaden, Zane, Syrus, Alexis, Chazz etc., but the use of fusion monster slightly decreased as the show goes on
@@nunocarvalho6671 Zexal and Arc V are much worse, and Sevens I don't even consider that Yu-Gi-Oh at this point
I had always wondered why Hydrogeddon was printed as a super rare in the champion packs and had also never realized its potential. Great video!
I remember trying to make a Water Dragon deck work against my friends in middle school...it ended up getting all washed up...
@ULGROTHA That still hurts me
Bu dum tishhhhhh
YES YES YESSSSSS! That's the type of video i've been praying that you would focus on because no one else does them like you. Love them, love them, love them! Keep teaching the children how cardboard was played back in the old days!
Man I remember having fun with Hydrogeddon back in my Water beatdown deck
Wdym little d was the true dominate dinosaur in the meta before hydrogeddon
Man, I havent watched you since I quit in 2017/18ish. But I love these old meta snapshots and stuff. I was in 9'th grade when this format and style of YGO existed, and I have fond memories of those times playing at locals as a kid. I'm 32 now, and still appreciate Card games in general. They keep kids out of trouble, and they're generally positive communities.
Uraby, a Normal lv. 4 Dinosaur with 1500 used to be the strongest lv 4 in the game for a short time in the OCG.
I mainly remember Hydrogeddon because Pink Reaper teched it in a few decks during Dino Rabbit format. He preferred it over Jurrac Guaiba because the other Hydrogeddon can attack. He also played it in WATER HERO builds, which allowed him to shuffle back extra copies with Moray of Greed, fuse it into Absolute Zero, and, of course, make Laggia in decks that otherwise shouldn’t be able to make it.
I love how far back your knowledge of Yugioh goes, I remember all of these past decks
GX were the best days in the competitive scene. I also still remember Frogmonarchs. Incredible hard to stop. And summoning a Bossmonster during those days really meant something. Also there were tons of different strategys. These days we only have building unbreakable boards with tons of negation effects...
Picked this literally cause of hydrogeddon was my guy.
Yup. Me too. Still is.
I use him for Rank 4s.
Man, what a sentence.
Great vid cap g, listening to the good ol days of competitive yugioh puts a smile on my face
You may have heard of the Engage into Engage into Engage meme, now get ready for Hydrogedon into Hydrogedon into Hydrogedon.
it was the time of 1:1 trades mostly so getting MORE out of it was rare and valuable. We didn't had any first turn combos or everyone played decks which you basically just had to learn the basic combo to get of. Here Special Summons were something rare, getting an advantage was rare since we didn't had so much card draw and searchers. I don't think players of today would be able to play this meta back then against a player which played during this time. We played WAY more slowed down and with caution.
Great video with a interesting story - keep it up!
Shoutout to every1 who was in the stream yesterday :p
I really love when you or Nymnhim make this videos of old meta cards or the history of the game
Only true O.G'S of competitive yugioh know about hydrogeddon , good video Capital G.
Its interesting to hear these stories about how past tournaments used cards back in the day and strategies to counter what was popular, especially this one. I didn't know Hydro was really used, but it makes alot of sense because it can rally more of itself to the field to be aggressive and push for a better position. Nowadays you see alot of weak monsters on field that transition to the large boss monsters in the extra deck and are much more difficult to break through, due to multiple negates and even high stats.
20 hours and I'm here
Watching Shane scurry using CCV on 3 Hydros was an epic video back in the day.
I remember running a water deck that had a similar concept to that control deck and it used hydrogedons as a basis for tribute fodder and then when the tournament legal prints of the god cards came out it was a decent way if you could get into it getting multiple copies onto the field so that you could tribute for obelisk wasn't super competitive but it was really fun to play at locals
Plz keep this series going, i absolutly love it.
damn, honestly I like this card and played it in TF (Tag Force) but never thought it had THIS kind of impact irl !
thank you CapG You are doing an amazing job after the G Revolution ! kep it up =D
Back in the day when six samurai first came out and gadgets were rampant, I was at a regional with some friends of mine. One of my friends was running hydrogeddons with shrink and stuff like that. All he had to do was attack the guys monster, summon a second and swing for game. He activated hammer shot, killing his own hydro and leaving himself open. If he had have won, he would’ve topped. The local shop had his misplay on the misplay of shame board for months. 12-13 years later, it’s still the funniest tournament misplay I’ve ever personally watched.
the best thing about Hydrogeddon, was the fact that it could have been used as tribute fodder, during the time it saw mass amount of play, I was using a Horus control variant, where I was using even Gravekeeper spy. But Hydrogeddon for a short time was an engine that allowed for the user to extend their plays, either with Monarchs, Horus control or any of the other tribute based decks that were available at the time.
I love Hydrogeddon. Sick art and clean battle-ignition effect.
Is there any site that lists top desk lists from every format? I wanna go back and play some old formats
Funny how right after Hydrogeddon's fall from grace we got Blue Thunder T-45 - Bit stronger, with better type and attribute and not forcing players to clog deck space with 3 copies of it. It did not saw a lot of success but i remember some players experimenting with that card as replacement for Hydro.
Would like to see u do an over review of Yu-Gi-Oh VRAINS series when you finish watching it CapG
@Springtrap Yugioh Shame the production was a nightmare and the show got cancelled mid final season with lots of plot threads left completely unresolved. You can thank the Dark Side of Dimensions movie for that.
@@elin111 I'm sorry how is DSOD to blame for Vrains not being as good?
@Springtrap Yugioh filler? you mean recaps, vrains got no filler at all and that's complain people make but it's meant to be really serious so ehh.
@Springtrap Yugioh I wouldn't call it the best. 5D's and GX are my first and second place, respectively.
The highest placement i ever got during that format was when I netdecked Chris Mooseman's prickle fairy deck at 7:42. One of the most creative anti-meta decks I've ever seen. Basically it was a 40 card side deck
I really love your new videos Cap!
Yo! Heck yeah, Hydogeddon ROCKS!!
I actually remember when Elemental Energy came out, and as someone who didn't have a lot to spend on cards at the time, I had to get really creative with commons that I pulled from packs, and I remember when I pulled one and thought I read the card wrong, at first! xD
I used it quite a bit when it was new, I remember people always picking up the card in shock to read it when I described the effect. Back then, everyone slept on common cards
If only card games were still like that to some degree. Now you almost certainly Need the higher rarity stuff.
@@nonoaheart5594 The GX era was kind of wild, the commons and regular rares (or "silver tops" as everyone called them) were significantly more competitive than most of the ultra rares, which were almost all E-Hero fusions or esoteric anime cards.
I doubt Yu-Gi-Oh will ever see a time line that again xD
Yessss I remember this shit. Really fun stuff.
Great vid man !!
One of the reasons why I ALWAYS ran Gravekeeper's Spy.
Back when yugioh took skill to find tech cards. I remember i used to run instant fusion back when nobody really used it. Or when vanities emptiness was only a dollar on release and went upwards of 20 bucks a common. Luckily i picked up about 100 of em and sold them all.
I remember magical mallet drawing into both copies I shuffled back.
Was great on average but when they brick... yikes.
Wow! What a great video. It reminded me of some good times. Hydrogeddon with eHero Wildheart as staples, nothing could stop me. Still have my Ultimate Rare Raiza in my folder.
Such simpler times lol. Raiza reminds me of the PC monarch days
Hydrogeddon is my favorite card just because it was a member of my first deck, a dinosaur-themed deck that was very casual. Me and my brother used to play real grindy games, and my hydrogeddon strat worked wonders, and then MP2 I could xyz into something.
Same. I liked to be able to swarm the field in a time when that was basically impossible. It helps that us casuals didn't understand the difference between Fusion tributes and normal tributes, so Great Evolution Pill meant two instant Gaiodiaz on the field and Ultimate Tyranno. Hydrogeddon was my usual way to start getting field control.
I freaking loved Hydrogeddon. Especially in Monarchs with e-con and shrink (reprint)
I used to play the card as well with rush recklessly and shrink enemy controler also with support cards like compulsory evacuation device at 3
Chemical Bonding archetype needs to be a thing since well over 10 years ago
Man, I’ve always loved the concept of the Bonding/Chemistry theme. It’s truly a shame that it flopped. Like if all things, the elements have the most potential with how they’re the basic parts of everything.
Hydrogeddon + Umiruka field spell
Was one of my favourite combo
I forgot Water dragon got a reskin. I only remember it as a vanilla fusion monster.
Kinda similar, I ran Jurrac Guaiba in my 2018 Dinos and it worked insanely well as an extender. It doesn't have to send to GY to trigger, so I can run over a token and special a jurrac from deck. I was easily able to pump out rank 4s and synchros like Dawn Dragster and Trishula.
Best part is I could summon it from deck off of baby, after I use lost world to protect the token.
Damn I love those davs where somethibg like E Hero Wildheart & TT was the shit 👍
Thx for the great content man
man GX era looks so fun and quirky with what you could do with deckbuilding.
It is. For me the Sept 2005 and Sept 2007 format is the best era of GX haha
@@spotsthecat7913 Goat and troop dupe are my fav, but I have a sweetspot for Wind-Up, Rabbit, plant synchro days. B4 plant synchro got deleted by komoney.
It is. Try playing some Tag Force and see what old gems you can find to crush the meta.
Ngl cap I miss the replay videos
Definitely enjoyed the video and want to see more
I'd love to see more of these stories! I love your yugioh stories!
Wasn't Hydrogeddon used in dino rabbit too? I seem to recall seeing it played in ZeXal era for a evolzar xyz after a successful attack.
1 thing of note here is that The apprentice magician decks almost NEVER ended on the old vindictive medicine or medicine of faith until AFTER all 3 of the card were destroyed.
Basically the idea was to use it to not only replace itself but to deck thin while using it as a setup for the following turn to use whatever was gotten to their advantage.
The idea at this time in the game was of course the grind game but that's not to say that there weren't some aggressive grind style decks. Namely as the general ideas were to use other cards to help with damage while quickly getting things on the board as fast as possible. Cards like magic cylinder and ceasefire saw a lot of play alongside cards like penguin soldier to allow you to quickly stick a creature and follow it up as fast as possible even if you had to space out or take control of your opponent's monsters. A lot more decks tended to use what anopponent had summoned to their advantage in order to be more aggressive.
Had no idea this card had such an impact. Also I’m loving your new content 🙏👌🏻
Always loved this card.
Use to play this with Monarchs and Gravekeeper spy way back in the day
I remember this video discussion on stream.
Those old deck lists bring a tear to my eye. MST and Mirror Force at 1 next to things like Graceful Charity and Confiscation lol.. Unironically playing 3 Sakuretsu Armors. Being able to use things like Rush Recklessly, and just a dozen or more non-archetypal "utility" monsters.
Now it’s all about hand traps
ive only recently started playing duel links and a main strategy in my deck us using assault wyvern to swap to something else for a direct attack after taking out my opponets defenses. the idea of dragging monsters into the battle mid round is kinda insane in strength especially if you have a field or powerup that gives the summoned monster new strength. though i dont see why torrential tribute couldnt be used in the damage step?
Do You know what happened to chainlank? I already searched on Google twitter and insta but cant find a thing...
loving the new videos but some of the old duels where really good
Cap tell the legend of SJC edison. The best format the game has ever seen.
I remember using Hyrdrogeddon in my Swarm Control deck at Shonen Jump Houston in 2008. Running this with Blue Thunder T-45, Creature Swap and cards like Giant Germ and Mystic Tomato. I wish I could remember that deck list :(
I used to love the plasma blue thunder t-45 deck in 2008! Just like you, I cannot remember it at all which is a darn shame.
Why is it that in the season focused on fusion water dragon wasn’t a fusion monster
Didn't it have some play in the dino rabbit era, as a alternate way to get out dolkka and lagia?
sounds like some progression series advice to me
dude, you gotta talk about the BIG CITY deck in that small period of time Elemental Hero Ocean and Skyscraper 2 were being used.
I ran Hydrogeddon with Shrink in my super budget Dino Rabbit deck several years ago. Good times. :')
I think a video over the days of dino rabbit and inzektors and wind-ups could be fun
trashcan format
He did make a video on the March 2012 banlist
Ah, my boy! I loved this dino in my water deck. So, so sweet!
a classic- one of my all time favorite oldies
I like how GX is ancient history now. I started at Yu Gi , Kaiba starters, I think 2 months before BEWD set hit the US.
I was still playing when this card first came out, I loved it. Slapping monsters off the board and gaining some extra cards on my side that were great fodder for getting my boss monsters on the field.
havent slept in a while but still here
Still surprised no one tried the card in dino rabbit
Gx is the era where if u could build a good deck it could win an event no archetype specifically designed to be meta like zoo or sky strikers.
Day 14 waiting for the rise and fall of dragon rulers
That would be a really cool video
Ah, yes the story of the Dragon Rulers...
When Konami dropped Lord of the Tachyon Galaxy like damn atom bomb onto the TCG/OCG. A deck that ran so rampant that it's only counters were Spellbook Prophecy who relied on their high priestess and deck choices like Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer, Jowgen and Droll to shut the deck down and Evilswarm (who relied on setting 4 backrow behind Evilswarm Ophion as a counter though this deck lacked in consistency) . That resulted in the September 2013 ban list (one of the biggest in the games history) in which all the baby rulers were banned along with Stamping Rejuvenation and what did this change? Absolutely nothing because it turns out the Dragon rulers had so much synergy just among themselves that all you needed was a way trigger them off each other and you'd have indefinite fodder. Judgment of the Light also helped by providing synchro support the deck could take full advantage of. Then they limited all of the rulers and finally found themselves being the linch pin of attribute decks rather than with each other and found a semblence of balance.... until Konami released number 95 and ruined it for everyone.
So ends the legend of Dragon Rul... can we bring Blaster back already?
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Konami, should have locked the rulers in attributes and not have them banish dragon as a cheat no?
in GX era, "build" a deck really us, player, make deck consist of various card with unrelated effect and make them synergize. deck like this really fun to play or to go against as almost each player have their own build.
as for archetype, archetype=structure deck in booster pack. its already a package as most of its card linked in name and effect. and no matter who used it, its pretty easy to guess the build and combo execution
why rise and fall of DRulers? rise simply when they hit us and fall bcuz the BL destroyed them. if they would be unleashed again they would be a force again.
this guy was my go to if i wanted to tribute summon.
I wonder how they would fare in a modern Dino’s given the new(ish) field spell?
I love this new content cap, keep it up
I would love to see an oldschool format that isnt goat come around, theres so many fun old cards that I wanna build around but just has nothing of value on modern metagame.
Check raiza format on weebly, it's a sept 2007-january 2008 format based on wc2008 yugioh ds game (gx era just before DAD era)
The link is
raizaformat (.) w**bly (.) com
TBH troop dupe is better than Raiza format, but that might just be personal opinion.
Fun fact though, hydrogeddon came back briefly as a t each choice for Dino rabbit decks in the xyz era
Also saw some play in Dinorabbit. Just wasn't the main power play of the Deck, but for the same reason as before; getting off it's effect was a +1, or a +0 Laggia/Dolkka. I remember building a Lemuria Dinorabbit variant which was....definitely inferior to regular Dinorabbit, but opened up consistent X6 plays with Hydrogeddon/Kabazauls. And X6 was pretty powerful at the time, though it suffered from a severe lack of ability for most Decks to actually go into it. Was a pretty consistent means to do the Exabeetle+Quasar combo though, and Sollda (the other, less famous Evolzar) was also a pretty damn good card. Not that Hydrogeddon was the main power play of the Deck, again, but it had its merits if it could run something over
it even saw play again when dino rabbit was around. players would play this and jurrac guaiba in some variants of dino rabbit.
Do one on Royal Oppression. Wonder if my top8 counter light deck from Detroit regionals will pop up. It countered Dark Armed Dragon and Destiny Hero Malicious sooo good when they were teir 0 pretty much.
Goddamn that deck has snatch steal. That was the most fun card.
The idea of a water dragon deck tho is pretty dope
Never even heard of this card: fascinating video cap.
how old are you tho?
I legit forgot how f'ing cool Water Dragon was when I was a kid until you mentioned him. I'd love to see Bastion's cards get a retrain in a future set
Water Dragon did get a retrain
yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Dragon_Cluster
This was one of my fav cards growing up
Woow do any one know the background music??
I clicked this cause that thumbnail released so much nostalgic dopamine.
Lesson of the day.
When going to a tournament, bring a buster deck.
Also are there any permission player who has a similar deck (in playstyle) like the protagonist from the manga wizard soul (highly recommend)
I remember combing this with the miniscapegoat to get out 3 1600 dudes in one turn then xyz into something that shut down their deck. Worked well with rabbit
Hidrogedon is basically my main monster on my AUTO DUEL duel links deck, its really good because the AI can't really screw up a battle phase effect and allows quick OTKs