You Want Good HDR? Try The Greatest Showman 4K Blu-ray [SPOILERS]
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2020
- We analyse the 4K Blu-ray of The Greatest Showman using the HDR toolkit on the Canon DP-V3120 professional reference monitor, and found impressive use of peak brightness (even above 1500 nits) and wide colour gamut (WCG).
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Please do more of these Blu-Ray Reviews! And maybe something like a top 10 HDR Blu-Rays ranking? :)
Yes I absolutely agree with you Pingu! It would be another reason to love the channel. With all the things Vincent could make content on, I could cut my cable and watch this channel instead.
Yes please
Skyfall 4k Vs blu ray. Vincent has used that movie many times to review the TV's.
Samuel Niaz Bakhshi @ yes you’re right. I don’t remember what Vincent said about the HDR? I know he’s talked about skin tones.
@@PrairiePolarBearSkyfall is another Roger Deakins movie. Actually he needs to review 1917 US Vs UK 4K version
I like when the "creator's intent" is to give us an enjoyable HDR experience.
@Freeze Peach It wont help that most people will be watching Netflix/Prime on a cheap 8bit TV that can't even display HDR, only decode it. Those of using using physical media on a decent TV are such a minority, sadly.
This guys jokes are outta nowhere, no heads up at all... just POW 💥
Hes so funny bro
Mahaha I agree totally. Gold!
"IYKYK (If you know, you know)"
Fox should hire you as a quality control person. Just to make sure their movies are good to go before release.
Thanks for taking the time to do these. Finding them informative and entertaining.
0:56 That's a great theory.
"If something that sits on your face is not tight enough, it's not worth doing it." Zing! That's what she said!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂opens with a face sitting joke. Love ur content man 😂😂😂😂
Excellent analysis! Could you do some reviews of remastered films like Sony's recent Columbia Classics 4K set with Lawrence of Arabia or Spartacus? Curious if studios are really leaning into HDR on those older films or staying fairly conservative on the grades.
Love your content, Vincent. Great job as always.
Vincent, your punch lines are probably the best on CZcams, period end of story. And the delivery is always on point lol.
Want a list of best 4K HDR movies technically.
SKYFALL 4K Vs BLU RAY. You love that movie.
Love these! Love your channel!
This is actually the movie that completely sold me on 4K HDR. I knew it was cool before, but one of the first real movies I saw in 4K HDR was The Greatest Showman, and it was at that point I realized that it was possible for regular movies to actually look better at home than they did in the theater.
0:56 I know what you did there :)
Nice. Keep em coming vince! Hope after a year we get an excellent compile of good and bad HDR content!
I find it odd that there hasn't been more HDR analysis before now. Please continue!
Its amazing how important the representation of life is important in our understanding of life. From drawings, paintings, photos, to movies and now computer graphics. I lack the words to describe how exciting this is. Just seeing how those purples popped makes me want to both get a better display and garden. LOL
As I only recently got into 4k physical copies, I've enjoyed and valued your insight into my potential purchases. I hope you pickup this series again!
The HDR and dynamic range in this film are next-level, especially when compared to something like Star Wars and Blade Runner. Thank you so much for the recommendation. Also really enjoyed the rest of the film & the Atmos soundtrack too!
Great watching Vincent's videos because it's like they have bonus features like find all the jokes etc.
No wonder when I was watching this movie at home. I noticed how bright and brilliant those violet flowers on the screen. I also noticed how brilliant the color of the clothes the bearded lady was wearing. Little did I know because it was real HDR!
DMCA needs a major overhaul - not drafted by large copyright holders.
Another great HDR review. Do you know if the 4k digital versions from places like Movies Anywhere or Vudu would still have real HDR like this? I'm asking since I've been starting to purchase more 4k digital than disc.
The best use of HDR on my Sony ZD9/Z9D is Netflix series Godless, episode 1. The thunder and contrast between lightning and the dark is amazing.
I've heard good things about the hdr impact of aquaman. Could you do an analysis of that movie's hdr implementation?
Great but i am always wonder what camera using Vincent to shot his reviews/tests ?
Very interesting. I never heard many people talking about this 4K disc until now! I might have to get it for the HDR.
Interesting to see you here aha, what's your opinion on the 'fake HDR' debacle?
@@1rnw792 same! I'm going to do a video on it very soon actually :)
@@ElliotCoen Great, can't wait to watch! I wonder that the HDR is like from the boutique labels, they're kind of niche, so probably not much info out there?
Well if you got Disney+ you can check it out there. Must be a Fox thing that's it's not in HDR there tho just about every other movie on Disney+ is in HDR or Dolby Vision. Still looked impressive on my wide color gamut QLED TV colors really popped more than just about any movie I"ve seen!
Yes, things that sit on your face definitely need to be tight. Much agreed.
Curious to see what Godzilla King of the Monsters did with Hdr.
Yeah that was a fantastic use of HDR.
Dolby Vision was fantastic
Its dvd quality, a couple of scenes was OK but in general of the worse 4K releases.
This is good stuff. We need a database of all this.
I recommend Moana and Frozen 2, but especially Moana. They impressed me the most with the HDR usage on my B9 65. Anyone seen them ?
I have, and they look great, but I don't find HDR to be as impactful in animation. Personal taste. /shrug
I watched Moana with my kids on my new CX OLED and wow what an amazing picture
@@chrisnewton2325 I know right !
@@chrisnewton2325 I feel that The Incredibles 2 and Coco were better for HDR. I know Moana is not a PIXAR movie but they are of the same ilk. Frozen II is another good one. Also don't get me wrong Moana is a stellar pick and an excellent movie all around.
When i first watched this movie I was blown away by the hdr which just proves you can tell when you have good hdr or not people judge 1 movie like oh there isn't that much difference well if you watch a good hdr movie there is a nice difference
Do you need tone mapping to watch these on LG C9? C9 gets about only 700 nits, so under half
Never knew you were a fan of Red Bull Racing. That's nice haha
Hopefully he enjoyed Albons podium!
Could you start a list somewhere online as well about your findings for the best HDR 4K discs? It would be awesome!
just saw this and completely agree. not as showy at something like aquaman, but very good and consistent quality
These fake vs real HDR videos are fantastic and very helpful for consumers. Please keep making more. I would guess Planet Earth and 2001 would both be good HDR but I'd love your analysis.
Yeah I put on the Blu-ray and I could tell what you mean, the parts with the spotlights and other lights just would have been so much brighter in HDR.
Hi do you have a list of all the best 4k movies to test tv with? thanks great channel!
Where can we find the playlists you're pointing at near very end of the video? CZcams has killed in video annotations long ago as far as I know and the sidebar has a TV review and the BR2049 BD comments.
Congrats you have 1500 nits in your hair 🎊🎉🎊🎉
Can you do the same for Netflix HDR/Dolby Vision? Since that's the most common way people experience HDR
They are far from HDR, most look just about 1080p
I’m curious about this too. Do I have to play the movie through blu ray to get this performance, or can it be reached by any streaming service?
@@norcaltrav Bitrate in 2160p Netflix films is lower than an average 1080p blu-ray disc.
A. Muñoz is this consistent with other streaming services as well? Prime video, etc?
@@norcaltrav Yep. Streaming services can't reach the quality of physical media (bandwith and average customer demand factors)
these reviews are awesome. can you do some of these on some apple tv stuff?
Great job Vincent
Vincent, you should check out the 'Nehza' UHD. It's one of the few that I've found to be impressive and unlike Pan and Power Rangers, it's a good film!
Hey Vincent! Which will be 2019s or 2020's best "budget" TV for best overall, the TLC models or the newer HiSense series?
Hiisense then i think.... we're 3 years on from that point, why ask such an old question?......
Does anyone know if these are perfect blacks? It’s actually extremely rare to see a disc with perfect blacks.
Hi. With tv should i buy for gaming ps5? Ist lg cx realy the best at the moment? Or is the any other Option? Regards
Interesting info. 👍
How can you switch off HDR10?? Either on Panasonic 4k bluray player or TCL 4k TV?? As I have many movies that are unwatchable with HDR10
Thanks ! As usual.
Just a general question... i recently purchased the sony x900h 75”, and have been screwing around with settings, and with all tvs in my limited experience, ive always wondered what the point of the alternate preset settings are? On this tv in particular the “standard” setting seems to be the most accurate and pleasing to me without question. with the other options available i never understand the purpose, u pick the setting that looks the most realistic as possible and they are always so drastically different with one clearly being most realistic. On “cinema” it just makes it look to have a greenish tint or something, and isnt what i want to watch a movie under. I just truly am interested to know y these options are available and when and y they are used. Also something like color settings (on this tv in particular) “expert 1&2” just make the picture look awful and “cool” always seems to be the most pleasing and accurate. I am curious as to what these settings are for.... a lot of probably 101 questions but appreciate the feedback if possible. Thanks a lot :-)
Read the manual?.....
I have the same problem with an lg.... soooo i scrap them all and make my own profile, and trim that profile everytime a film comes up, and eventually over 50 films, you develope your own profile that "you" like.....
Thats key, your personal happiness 😊
Good luck tweaking.....
Fair point on the mask thing, I need to get tighter string myself lol
lol
masks are not meant to prevent you from getting sick, they are there to cover your exhale and protect others. Please don't confuse the reasons masks are mandated or their effectiveness with that of full bio-hazard respirators.
Please do not wear masks with exhale valves as this defeats the purpose of wearing a mask.
Again masks are worn to prevent the spread from the wearer to others NOT to protect the wearer in any meaningful way.
@ Wooosh!
@ Not only did you miss the joke, you are factually incorrect. Masks are mandated for both, stop you from breathing it in from others and stop others from breathing it from you. Properly sealed n95 T+ masks absolutely protect you from being infected via breathing. They do not stop you from being infected from contact that eventually finds it's way into your nose/mouth from your hands.
great video! can you do alita battle angel next? I enjoyed that movie and really liked the lighting and scenery
Very dim HDR
It looks better on the left display - right one is very dark, what are those diplays?
I recently watched the standard blu-ray and thought it couldn't get much better. This movie was on my list of 4K must haves and was taken off but now it's back on. This movie was recently on sale for $9.99CAD and sadly has went up to $14.99CAD still on sale just obviously at 50% more than before. I'll wait for Black Friday. I just picked up A Quiet Place for 4K UHD Blu-ray from my local Walmart for $8CAD and at the till it came up as $12CAD so I got it for free. Reason why I got it for free is because most stores have a policy that if it comes up as the wrong price you get a maximum of $10 off so seeing that the movie was 8 bucks I got it for free.
I would have demanded the 2$ change or a store credit note....... dont let them "f" you over.... !!!!!
What is the link to those lists as I can't see them.
How does Inception 4K Bluray stack up?
I'd love to see a comparison of the same movie on Blu-Ray, Netflix and Apple TV. Do they have the same Peak Brightness and Color Gamut. I would guess they do, but it would be nice to have proof.
I've heard it mentioned that since OLED won't go as high as some LEDs as far as brightening that you can miss out on some of the HDR. But then many say the HDR is amazing on OLED. It's a bit confusing and makes you wonder if we're overthinking things
But then again you get perfect blacks on an oled
Any steaming service as good as blue ray?
Now look what you have gone and done Vincent, you have me thinking about purchasing a disc had no interest in.
😊
another great quote
So this was graded on the Dolby Pulsar.
@HDTVTest could you compare the blu-ray version of the Greatest Showman with the Disney + version?
Bob Nahrstadt easy. Physical beats digital 100%
Disney plus is only hd
you tube are you saying some content is in HD or all? Because they have some content in HDR/Vision
@@vGREENARROWv the Greatest Showman on Disney Plus is only streamed in HD and only 5.1 not HDR or even in 4k. The 4k Blu-ray has an atmos track.
@@user-if4jg6ul9o Yeah just watched it there guess we can blame it on Fox like Vincent does in this video LOL Still looked pretty awesome tho!
3:42 "shadow detail still visible"
me watching in sdr: :(
YES! More HDR reviews please. I'm noticing more and more "HDR" titles that look like SDR. Very Misleading.
Nice!
I wonder how good a quality of 4K Blu-ray drive will be in the PS5 compared with home players? I want to watch Interstellar on 4K Blu-Ray but after the horrible sound during the IMAX theater we saw it at at launch I hesitate. Is the dialog on disc as bad as the theatrical release anyone?
A home player has very dedicated circuitry for hdr10+ and Dolby vision tv's..... its a "dedicated unit" and can cost upto 4k$ some even more....
A ps5 is a "games machine" built to a price for maximum profits like all games machines are.....
I guess 1 machine is full of high grade audio capacitors the other with the lowest grade...... 😔 you choose.
Mad Max Fury Road would be another good one to look at. I think it is pushed well beyond 1000nits.
It reached near 9000nits. He already tested that.
where does Aquaman rank in terms of good HDR?
I like this new series of content, keep 'em honest!
Great movie to show off you surround system and hrd. If this movie sounds like crap you need to review your system. This movie is my go to especially the first few mins when the bass thumps shakes the house.
Can you redo Mad Max 🤞 or can you interstellar or Dunkirk?
Now if only we could actually get a good mastering of a good movie.
(4KDI and High Brightness HDR.)
There are several out there. Annihilation, Fury, Black Panther, Hostiles, all the neww Star Wars movies, Murder on the Orient Express (2017), Dunkirk (2017), Passengers, all the John Wick movies, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (2016), Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Deadpool, Sicario (2015), Onward, Toy Story 4, Doctor Sleep, Ex Machina, Ready Player One, Red Sparrow and so many others. Some of these movies may not be considered good by some but these are movies I've enjoyed.
Randy Bradley thoughts on blade runner 2049 mastering?
@@randybradley4151 " all the neww Star Wars movies"
You must have missed Vince's last video.
@@randybradley4151 And yes I have a collection of about 50 UHD Blurays, getting the 4KDI and decent HDR is very rare, most of them are compromised in one way or another and I just wait to buy the disc for $10 on a flash sale. Christopher Nolan is one of the only good producers in all of Hollywood.
@@budthecyborg4575 I obviously don't have the tools he does but watching them on my 65" LG C9 the HDR is very good. As for peak brightness the sun scene he showed in his video doesn't even look similar when I watched the movie 3 times on my TV it makes me squint like I'm looking at the sun and watching that video he made my screen looks nothing like he showed. Also keep in mind what I said at the end of my comment should tell you that I did see the video. But that why I said in my opinion.
Maybe my eyes but none of the Marvel films seem to peak at true HDR rather more upscales. I hear all the Bourne films look flat and washed out on 4k and although there is the added sharpness to at least the majority of their run times, I would like to know if the HDR applied was a win on Die Hard and Superman The Movie. Thanks :)
Could you do a TOP List for HDR Movies.
I heard *Aquaman* is also pretty good.
Greetings from Germany
Speaking of bass, the DTS-HD MA 7.1 track has much louder (better?) bass than the Atmos track
I think because dts has higher bitrate than dolby
@@marklouieadame urr, no. this isn't the days of DVD anymore
'Game of Thrones', worth buying the complete box in 4K UHD ?
You should look at transformers age of extinction, to me it looks like a incredible HDR showcase
Logan Foraker I love them all apart from the last knight, that was just a train wreck of a story. Visually WOW but story just WTF
Can you please do this with Aquaman? And maybe even Godzilla king of the monsters?
Aquaman please
Nice
These videos are good
Thanks! Can you please do a Marvel film?
I think the studios need to put some info on the packaging stating max nit level and also what the DI Resolution was used to make the disc. Too many 4K films are not true 4K either, so while TV manufactures are giving us the tools to enjoy what we’ve bought, the studios are giving us Sub-Par disks/streams etc.
Lol...love his joke
I have the movie on 4 k
Good HDR is an exact representation of the creators intent. There are plenty of videos on you tube you can go watch to burn your retinas if that’s what pleases you.
So wrong. What's your definition of HDR? If it's just exact representation of creator's intent, SDR can achieve it too.
Wrong, I see HDR as a way of getting a wider colour gamut. Not to boost and over brighten the highlights
Again, your statement is incorrect - HDR is totally independent from WCG (wide colour gamut)... they are separate entities.
I got burn in watching this. I got a phone call during the opera scene and paused the movie. When I got back to watching her dress was burnt into the oled. Luckily lg replace the panel for me.
If possible can you do a comparison with Greatest Showman streaming on Disney+ vs the 4K Blu-ray.
Very curious as to the differences of HDR through streaming vs disc.
hmmm.... something that sits on your face is not tight enough......you got me there...
Damn, imagine that kind of mastering on the Star Wars movies, Blade Runner 2049 and the Mandalorian series.
Would you say this movie is.... The Greatest Showcase?
34 seconds in.
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Get in line.
Nice cap... nice review
Great 4k disc, but the CD from this movie sound pretty bad in comparison.
Usually different companies. So results would be very different.