"He's Shooting At Scraps Of Metal." - Generation Kill (2008)
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Generation Kill is an American seven-part television miniseries produced for HBO that aired from July 13 to August 24, 2008. It is based on Evan Wright's 2004 book Generation Kill, about his experience as an embedded reporter with the US Marine Corps' 1st Reconnaissance Battalion during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and was adapted for television by David Simon, Ed Burns, and Wright. The miniseries was directed by Susanna White and Simon Cellan Jones and produced by Andrea Calderwood. The ensemble cast includes Alexander Skarsgård as Sergeant Brad "Iceman" Colbert, Jon Huertas as Sergeant Tony "Poke" Espera, James Ransone as Corporal Josh Ray Person, and Lee Tergesen as Wright.
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A problem of many commanders of First Recon in OIF is that many of them had little experience of being combat commanders. They were experienced as administrators, logistics, planners, intelligence analyst, etc ... Remember that First Recon were supposed to be employed in small squads and teams to be dropped behind the enemy line, not to engage in combat, but to perform recon on foot and avoid combat. The "combat" commanders are the team, squad, and platoon leaders and by and large, those were shown to be adequate in GK.
The Platoon and Company commanders of First Recon were basically never meant to lead people into combat. They are good at other things, but not leading during combat.
It's really a case of the division commander and battalion commander rushing to use First Recon in ways that doctrinally, they were ill-suited for, but they ended up being used that way anyway. Once on the field, someone has to take the role of combat commanders, and thus Encino Man and Captain America. (Reddit: @SmirkingImperialist)
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MARSOC had that issue the entire time I was in. Unconventional warfare specialists have to be their own dedicated units because it takes years to refine serve members to that role and can't be done simply by taking conventional service members.
My grandfather had to salute snot knows kids straight out of college as his commanding officer. He appropriately called them educated idiots, One of the many reasons why so many Americans are killed in action is because of the incompetence of the higher command.
I really appreciate your fact dump on every short.
@@TheMelorinoyeah, really fills in the details to people that don't have much info about militaries and makes them more interested in these
A lot of scout units were used for direct action because in the initial armor conflict, not many infantry had trucks, but scouts did! I was with a Brigade Recon Troop and we did everything that needed done quick!
“He’s got his fucking bayonet out”
@@karenlynch8348 nah mate, it feels appropriate.
@@karenlynch8348 ❄️
@@karenlynch8348 i was gonna call you a karen but that's literally your name hahaha
@@robertpaulson2946lol
@@karenlynch8348Fuck yes it is!
the fact that they were sent to destroy a tank column with only humvee and mk19 for "best" anti-tank weapons they had ....
To be fair you could see AT-4 tubes in some of the humvees, but even then it's a miracle the airfield was empty.
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Honnestly
Can you imagine the slaughter if the marines need these at4 to destroy the tank ? They would need to take the launcher, exit the humvee and shoot. And with 0 cover on a road at 100> meters of the tanks 😅
im pretty sure than the tanks would make a whole mess if they had a crew inside them
It would not have been the most efficient use of these Recon Marines, but the assault on this airfield could’ve potentially still been done if they actually had encountered resistance. Saddam mostly had old T-54/55 and T-62 tanks. The few “new” T-72 tanks he had left were not in the rear at this airfield (the US Air Force had mostly destroyed them already). These were outdated Soviet tanks that their AT4s could destroy and their Mk19s could still damage the tracked mobility and sensors on those.
To top it off, the Marines also had British Commandos with their accompanying escorts of air support moving in to support them. Even a single RAF Apache would have easily destroyed whatever tanks were still left by that point; not to mention all the commandos with all their anti-tank weaponry dropping in too.
@@MrJH101
Yep but no
English para mission were cancelled because of the tanks.
And the whole things about the operation is that no apache or abrams were available for the airfield.
The mk19 dont work properly and by the topology of the airfield even the slightest resistance would make a bloody mess.
And even a t55 would obliterate a humvee on a road.
Thats why the whole company didnt want to make the assault.
In fact, the general in charge have taken the first recon to a light cavalry regiment. Thats why he sent them against the tanks instead of making reco
@MrJH101 even a single "old" T-55 is a massive threat to infantry.
I regularly quote “Follow my tracers” in video games.
is that because it can actually be useful when theres actually things to shoot at or what
Definitely have to say this in arma 3
@@Djzommer1 Yes and no ? In combat really you make do with what you have in the second, so if you're pinned down and you're having a tough time understanding the enemies positions, yeah why not, but really better to ask under cover, than to peek your head out watching where tracers go
I heard you in hell let loose.
Haha 😂
- "Sir those are civilian huts and scraps of metal"
+ "How do you know that?"
- "Your ass would be shredded if they weren't"
I love that they were perfectly visible by eyesight over 9000ft away
@@isaac-vb1ngI'll give the show a pass on that, they have binoculars so a few of them possibly already saw those buildings and call it in while Capt USA was doing his Rambo
I love how you can see building in Tallinna, Estonia from Helsinki, Finland with bare eye and it is over 80kilometers (over 260000feet) away over the sea. Did you have some kind of a point to make orrrrr.....@@isaac-vb1ng
@@Vean-fn9fn good point, now that i think of it I’ve definitely identified buildings at that distance with binos
Because of this scene, my platoon will point out far ass stuff ie. Mountains, buildings, etc and just belt out “FOLLOW MY TRACERS!” Always geeks me out 😂
Imma start screaming that in battle bits when I'm on the mic lmao
@@xIcyStarzz-yz7my yes!!!!
@@tylerlane4587 project reality, for Battlefield 2 is also has alot of us veterans on there, generally from Iraq, afgan, etc and 'younger' vets is worth checking out too.. its pve and pvp but the pvp is ROUGH. Battlebits plays more like newer battlefield titles , pvp is challenging but not as hard as Project Reality or Squad
@@xIcyStarzz-yz7myI meet tons of vets on squad, and despite not being one myself squad definitely immerses me in a way no other game has before
"engage those hills! follow my tracers!"
How Cpt America passed Force Recon training is beyond me
He’s probably like Trombley and didnt. They pulled guys from other units to shore up numbers for the invasion and basically got to join marine special forces without selection.
He has an uncle in CENTCOM
He probably snapped at one point
@@AlexGonzalez-ut9ckI'm pretty sure Encino man wasn't an actual recon marine either
@@menachem2521he did seem shook when Redman told him he would fuck him up if he fired another AK
Seems like incompetent leadership always finds a way to be in a leadership role and thier incompetent asses always let the shit roll down hill...
I'd bet that military leaders are a lot like teachers: You need a lot of them, but it's a job that only some people are going to be great or even good at. That being said, teachers don't have guns and bombs.
In the toilet that is life shit tends to float unfortunately
You only promote as far as stupid will allow. So if your smart good luck 😅
Yep. Some are so incompetent they cannot correctly spell an easy word such as _"their"._
Truly tragic.
I understand when incompetent hacks graduate by being a sly dog, even GF showed a bit of it when kissing up Gen. Mattis and how he radio'ed the capture of the airfield.
But I don't know how this absolute genius made it into an Lt. without his nose permanently smeared brown.
A hero in his own mind.
Pretty much, Dirty Harry.
This was such a good show. The level of incompetence among leadership was pretty terrifying, however. I mean these guys weren’t your everyday ground pounding crayon eating infantrymen. These were Marine Recon.
Marines are marines and they eat crayons. Recon, average infantry, anything.
Lol pretend like recon doesn't eat crayons too all you want. They just get the big box with more colors
@@grilledleeks6514scented ones
@@Snay1998 I like the strawberry ones best!
@@dan1273 comeon man,if only I could get my hands on those mmmmm
"...obay any LAWFUL order I am given..."
Bro hop off my d Idek you and I don’t even know what’s going on
Obey
Kids, remember this when you join our military. Also shut up grammar nazi.
Captain america is just intiating recon in force
I'm sure that's the excuse he gave to cover up his non-stop incompetence.
Recon by fire.
This show really encapsulated the sentiment behind the saying "shit floats"
I’ve never heard of ‘shit floats’ before.
Failing upwards and picking up rank all the while.
Captain short bus is funny AF
this made me laugh so hard
Hola shit he Is a captain? Not Even a Secound LT Is this dumb.
Infantry here. Our third platoon had a platoon Sargent been in since late Vietnam. They called him "the grip" couldn't even read a map. Had exemptions for everything, the guy was obese and constantly harassed people with extra PT as punishment.
Ah so the “I was in Nam” (just don’t ask me specifics about what I did because I never saw combat) type
As Steven ogg said in s8 of twd “Bull-shit”.
@@aceofspadesguy4913 douchebag reread the comment, I was never in Vietnam, the A🕳️ Sergeant was, you should be able to understand that being an A🕳️
@@BobBob-ku7ue no idea what you're trying to say? But you sound very experienced with BS.
@@sierrawander7108 he's referring to the Canadian actor who played antagonist Simon in The Walking Dead and protagonist Trevor Phillips in Grand Theft Auto 5 game
Bro hopping out with two rifles to shoot at nothing killed me
I was in the Marine Corps from 99-08. When people ask how it was in Iraq I ask them have they watched “Generation Kill”. Pretty spot on what my deployments were like. A cluster fuck of “who’s on first”. My second deployment we had all matching desert cammys and bulletproof HMMVEEs without open tops. Crazy times! Miss you all brothers!
Good on ya mate, for serving your country, and more importantly, for..looking out for your brothers 😁👍🤘🇦🇺
You make it sound fun
“Doing his Rambo” LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
the loop from civilian huts to the convoy is a lil funny
Damn, I'm a welder. They just made the safety supervisor the warehouse supervisor. He's never welded. 😂 Go figure.
Ah, invite him to try it out once or twice, teach him a thing or two, should loosen up a bit
Not a fair comparison but understandable, like the dude above said. Offer to show him some things, tips from you that he can learn quicker thanks to your experience.
I'm the welding QC inspector (among other roles) at my job. My welds look like dogshit, but I know how to read a print and I speak the language.
This reminds me of Jarhead and the scene from black hawk down where the guy on the turret goes. “They’re shooting at us, colonel they’re shooting at us!” “Well shoot back”
Next time my wife complains that the beer isle is to far away to get my beer,"Move into position Engage!"
There’s an island of beer? Does it grow there?
Would you dare to speak in such manner to your commander?
@@johnbamba3052 Roger that!
Too
@@adods9824 2
The actors, writers and the actual guys they portrayed did a good job making us hate Captain America.
That is a future US Senator right there.
Best believe he tasked a staff member to write up a package for going "above and beyond the call of duty"
"He Spearheaded 50x recon marines in a 5km assault route on the conformed location of 70+ enemy armor units, single handedly coordinating overwatch on 5x enemy fortifications, leading to the total destruction of a $1.5M enemy vehicle depot to secure FLOT maneuvers within the region."
Or some flowery crapola like that.
Flowery Crayola, there fixed it.
@@KillrMillr7 yknow, it autocorrected me to that, and I considered keeping it as Crayola.
Truth told, it's better. Thank you.
Well he did deny the enemy transportation a couple times
“That was pretty fucking ninja”
Is that a Medal Of Honor (2010) reference?
@@edgarbanuelos6472 the other way round actually! It was an Easter egg in Medal of Honor referencing this scene, this clip doesn’t show the line though
@@ThePyroRob that was the first PS3 game I ever played
I watched a dumb ass platoon Sgt clear a room during practice with a bayonet 😂. Dude was so serious 😂🎉
Was there any reason you guys had bayonets? Just in case ig?
@@daddycremecake4260 Pretty much yeah. Never really used it for anything but cutting wires that were hard to reach lol
Smart, Talibans were trained to deal with marines with guns, not bayonets. They wouldn't know what to do with that particular Sgt.
@@xboxgorgo18I'm not even sure what Taliban is supposed to do with CQB. Shoot better? I mean, it's not like dealing with gunfire requires much training except for stress training.
Gonna tell my kids that this is the real Command and Conquer: Generals experience.
This literally encompasses what it's like to be enlisted... post 1992.
T34 in the corner pretending it did not see anything
I want to know the life story of that particular tank and how it survived to wind up in 2003 Iraq
@@Materialist39 probably just a prop that was at the place they were filming?
@@JoshuaC923any serviceable WW2 era tank that is around into the new century is going to have an interesting history, even if just a museum piece / set prop
@@Materialist39 of course!
@@Materialist39when it comes to the T-34, sorta. Not really. It's always neat to see old equipment like that but a majority of still surviving T-34s were made after WWII was over and sold to other countries, where a lot didn't ever see combat. Is it cool to still see them around? Absolutely, but they're most likely not going to have a very interesting story behind them.
Well, at least Captain America will be dumb enough to confirm if the enemy have a machine gun position while everyone else stays in relative cover to assess.The situation the Captain clearly misread.
Yeah, that's leadership, take a hail of gunfire to reveal the enemy position to your men. Tactical genius, Captain. 🤪
This Officer is so cataclysmically stupid.....I would stay as far away from him as I could
Between him and SGTMaj Sixta, I would rather be getting shot at, than be near either one of them
Catastrophically ...
@@adods9824 Cataclysmically works there as well.
Commandant Spangler taught Eric well.
Is this accurate 😂 cos if it is this type of marine I didn’t come across in Afghan in 09. Them guys seemed chilled switched on and similar to us Brits. Ready to go just as quick as being ready to take a dump
Yeah, this show was written by a reporter with zero experience in combat photography prior to being embedded. He admitted to making stuff up as well.
Remember this is '03 by the time you're talking about shit got sorted out
Eight years of war, six in Iraq, will straighten out the kinks Id say.
You can’t teach stupid 😂🤣
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 except almost everything he's written can be fact-checked by 2 other books written by 2 other marines that were there
This was such a great show. So under rated. The end when they are all singing come sail away..... I felt that in my soul.
Is that a t-34 in the background?
Oh, wait it is! Good catch. Imagine if they would meet this thing working, lol
Yes scrape metal
Yes
“Follow my tracers !!!”
Collage degree ladies and gentlemen 😂😂
I can see you don't have a "collage" degree. It's spelled college. Lol
@@JohnSmith-im8qtThat’s the whole point of the joke
Hey, he happens to be an expert on 14th century haiku.
@@JohnSmith-im8qtMaybe he's just saying he has a degree in 'collage' - A Fine Arts major, in other words =D
Say you're in the military without saying you're in the military...."I can't believe this guy is in charge of people"
I swear, as god as my witness; for those of you with zero military experience or even the latter years of GWOT deployment, this show perfectly captured the essence of those early years. It was fucking insane. Name the city, it was all mired in the incompetence of not just lower level leadership(company level) but also higher level leadership. I swear we were all constantly like “what the fuck did the captain just say??” To piggyback on that, I never had a platoon level leader, officer or enlisted that I didn’t respect with my entire being. I was blessed. I heard horror stories and saw shit from another platoon that made me so appreciative of the leadership I had. I was severely wounded in nasiriyah, had to cool the jets for a few years, and redeployed in 2006, then again in 2010, and one more time in 2012. Iraq and Afghanistan, I saw the same problems play out over and over again. We fucked up those wars so bad, but I guess I’m thankful for the experience. I met a ton of incredible men, and to this day every time I visit a select few of those men’s graves, generally on federal holidays, I pour two out for them and reminisce on the good times and the bad. I can’t drink anymore, so they take mine for me. I keep all those memories bottled up inside as I have a job to do and children to raise, a wife to please and parents/brothers/friends to look after. A few days a year, I hangout w the boys that can’t see the sky anymore and I allow myself to remember. Those wars were entirely, incomprehensibly, indefatigably retarded. We saved nobody, we helped no one, we just doomed two generations of people to enslavement and punishment. That wasn’t our fault. That was leadership’s fault. We did what we were supposed to do, but we were ultimately abandoned by our leadership. I understand my grandfather so much more now than I did when I was a kid. I find myself doing the same things he did. Funny how that works. Stay hard boys. I’ll see you at the VFW.
A good explanation and thanks for sharing. For my small part, I shall try to stay informed and vote for leadership that takes war seriously. There has to be a very good reason to subject people to the hardships of combat.
And kids, this is what happens when you eat too many crayons….😂
No no, he didn't eat enough crayons. Makes'em cranky.
Next week on _How I Met Your Marine..._
Nah, that's a Marine that doesn't like the taste of crayons. Makes for a bad Marine.
fOlLoW mY tRaCeRs!!!
- Captain America 2003
And there are some that are like that in real life in the military. Medal and rank chasers.
Because of this scene, I mess with friends while on the road. "You see that out there? Way out there. Should we engage?"
Damn, how did I get here so early? Also great series.
Same here 😅
nice
“gentleman we just seized an airfield”
Casual t34 just chilling
I loved this series
He's like a 10 year old playing war in the backyard
Good for showing incompetence. Incompetence is abound. In addition War should not be glorified
My old 1st Sgt, 1/9 Nam walking dead alumni, participated in Dewey Canyon op the only one we were allowed to win. Get back in your vehicle Lieutenant, now Lieutenant!
love how there's just a random t34 85 in the scene
1830 metres is 2000 yards. The level of detail is spot on, gang.
What are you on about?
@@Repulse96 Exactly what you confirmed, mate. The M2 has got a scale to adjust the sightings, it must be in yards since the metric system wasn't adopted by the US army until the 1980s, so they now "convert" mentally the otherwise imperial system scales :/
I love the T-34 just chilling in the background
Plot twist: they were surrounded by invinsible ninjas.
If the tank on the left WAS manned they would have chewed him up.
Yeah. If it were still manned and equipped. If not equipped. Could be using it as alternative mobile fortress.
The other officers were like slow down high-speed. 😂😂
I forgot how good the cinematography is in this film. Need to re watch it.
Captain America was an intel marine, from what I've heard and read he was an excellent officer and good at his job but he got picked to go into combat where he was essentially useless
Yes, a good detail to keep in mind. The show for its part does have moments where the bravado is clearly shown as insecurity. We don't hear him say it, but seems to be thinking, "I should be looking at intel photos and communication, not here".
FREAKIN!! BOOT "BUTTER BAR"!!
LOL, i fucking loved this scene! "We took a airfield, that's pretty fucking ninja!"
Love your outfit & pink hair! 💜
If those tanks had people in them, half the battalion probably gets wasted, but on call artillery or airstrike would have then LEVELED that air field. If LtCol Fernando survived the assault it probably would have been his last order as a as a marine officer. I’m not sure as a battalion commander of Recon Marines if your career survives losing that many men so recklessly.
I thought soldiers were to follow commands of their higher-ups: "Move into position! Engage! Engage!" One Luv ❤️!!!
Someone who only knows 40k through memes vs. people who play the game 😂
People who know the lore through breadtubers VS People who know the lore through reading the novels and official reading materials.
Captain america > encino
100%
Captain America at least had enthusiasm.
2:19 is amazing!
Ive seen this guy paired up with frances in malcolm in the middle 😂
A few people in the military told me that they were getting orders from idiots so they made sure to tell me not to enlist several times each.
And all of them told me to apply for officer school instead so I can be the idiot giving out orders, because they'd rather have me do that than sit in a cold wet trench under idiots like they do.
LMFAO 😂 this was soooo good! 😂
This guy's playing arma 😂
This was a really good series
Damn you’re retiring this year? Bummer man, I’ve always enjoyed your editing and obviously the skating, but with you being a new dad it makes sense! Good luck with whatever’s next man!
It looks like a M-7! The good old PIG STICKER!!
the fuckin AK lol
did anyone else notice the t34 in the back?
T-34-85
@@kameradkrieg8480 i was hoping someone noticed
Love the guy who played captain america, he did a great job hahaha
A singular t-34
Rest in peace scribe
PAX
THE GODDESS OF PEACE
That key and my ex have a lot in common they see a lot of use 🤣🤣
This show is the most realistic when it comes to military and how soldiers behave
I read Flick's book One Bullet Away, and it was far different from Generation Kill. The way he describes it, recon was better suited to scouting and intelligence gathering. Front line combat was a waste of their ability.
Yes…. Yet they were ordered front lines several times
This was fun watching
Would be cool if you showed some scenes with Alpha company as it seems the opposite of bravo with its more competent leadership
Captain America was the best part of this show let’s be honest lol
Jesus Christ, goddamn officer 🤣🤣🤣
And that lieutenant….
Was me.
He probably took some Benzos to calm himself down for the flight ✈️ one two many mixed with Alcohol isn't good should just let dude leave how they stop him and turn it into a situation
Didnt stop us. Ae shot at anything
Little do yall know... humvees don't go that fast especially over hills... and they aren't that quiet.
At least that was a real Chinese Type 56 underfolder that is select fire. Converted prior to 1986 and owned by a film production corporation.
Perfect example of when Recon, scouts, cav scouts, force recon, etc. say the dumbest shit us 11B's ever hear... "we're pretty much infantry". Yeah... and I'm pretty much a Chinese jet pilot named Steve.
So at the end of the day
What even is "recon"? Like what are their true purpose?
T34 at left chilling
The first thing we did before my first deployment was throw away all our tracers. But we are fighting a different war with different realities.
So this is how 1000 hours player who play only Call of Duty look like
Captain America is straight out of a classic cheesy 1950s war film. Being in Iraq is hell, but having that dude as your Platoon Commander on top of that? Fuuuccckkk that shit dude.
There seemed to be good NCOs within the platoon that kept Captain America in check.
Yep seen afew of those.
The command to follow my tracers raises so many questions
The Australian Army used to have a similar sort of command "Look for my fall of shot!" The idea was to use that phrase if it was to difficult to describe where the enemy was that you were targeting. This was back in the 90s so I have no idea if they still use the expression.
Right but I'm wondering, does he think he has tracers loaded? Does he know what that command means? Can he not tell, once he's started firing, that he has no tracer ammunition loaded? Why does he think that command is appropriate?If he ordered his men to observe his splashes that'd be one thing, be he told his men to look out for his tracers.
lol is that a T-34 tank?!
Need a little blue on blue action here