The Crime that shocked France - The Drummond Family Mystery
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2021
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In 1952, Sir Jack Drummond, a pioneering food scientist, his wife and 10 year old daughter were shot dead while on holiday in France. A local farmer was convicted of the killings. But was he really guilty? I'm not so sure....
Can my Oddites solve this tragic case?
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Not sure how you have never heard of this one if you enjoy true crime.
This is by far one of the best presentations I have ever seen detailing the case. Your PHENOMENAL ODDIE!!
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Just a tragic and sad story. They dropped the ball in that investigation. I smell a cover up.
"It is the little one. Because of the little one." Very sad and totally unnecessary. Only a monster could have done that.
Bloody knickers makes me think of broken hymen... how sure were they of no sexual assault?
Sure enough no to bother testing the girl for that kind of assault and then hiding her undies during the trial, instead of testing them for evidence,etc.
For little Elizabeth been beaten to death, she must have been the main target. The fact that her father was a distinguished biochemist hindered the solving of this case
That's what I thought. Or he tried it with the mother at first but she was too resistent and it is tricky to control 2 victims at once , so he shot the mother and moved on to the daughter who when she realised he now had her as a main target, tried to plea and then run....
If he just wanted to kill her he could have just shot her. He took her 77 feet away and when she also resisted got so frustrated that he took her out the way he did....
Why "must" that be? There is no reason to believe that's the case. Why would her father being a distinguished biochemist hinder the investigation? Your comment is incoherent.
@@patavinity1262 I had the feeling that the focus of the investigation was on the father and his alleged work as spy, therefore Elizabeth was pitied as collateral damage
Exactly this suggests something more personal and certainly not a professional hit.
Wow! This story has all the ingredients for a feature film. So tragic and mysterious.
There is a 1973 french film "L'affaire Dominici" ("The Dominici Affair"), with Jean Gabin.
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I absolutely love your channel, Oddie. Your narrations could be two hours long, I would still sit here listening, fascinated. Another great video from you, what a gruesome, strange case. I'm French but I'd never heard of it. The investigation sounds like it was completely botched. I think the target was Elizabeth and that she was assaulted. It's really heartwarming to hear that the villagers care so much to this day and take such good care of the Drummonds' resting place.
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Your research is phenomenal. Thank you. Investigations have come a long way since then. God bless them please for looking after the graves. The little girl...it is so sad. It is sad that there are people out there ready to despoil anything innocent, who have that need. It is sad.
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Ah Oddy, I said it before, but I have to say again:
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He’s using a cane to walk. There’s no way he did it. Had to be one of the sons. I don’t think Sir Drummond would have put his family at risk
Agreed, especially after the old man's statement implying that he was trying to protect his grandchildren, perhaps by protecting his sons. Of course we'll never know, but it's entirely possible that one of the suspicious sons liked what he saw in the girl when the family announced themselves to ask permission to camp on the property. I really wish that investigators would have leaned harder on the sons than the father.
Exactly what I thought as well
He managed to run the farm ok with a cane, no reason he could not do it.
@@jeremyt2212 They were not on the families land, all they did was call at the farmhouse for water. There was a footpath next to where they camped down to the river.
I believe the girl was kidnapped initially but had to be killed.. and that he wanted to go back with a blanket to ensure the job was done
This was a sad one, It's always sad when children are involved. Thanks for the vid :)
It really is.
Maybe times were very different, but I can’t imagine people just laying down by the side of the road and going to sleep. They sure didn’t look like people who camped to me. Plus they had dinner at a hotel earlier in the evening. Wouldn’t that have been the place to stay?
I saw a doco on this a few years ago, the family often camped in the area, and they had camp beds and camping equipment, they just did not put up their tent as it was such a nice night. They also cooked their own dinner on their camp fire that night before retiring.
@@janetpendlebury6808 Thanks for the info. I just found it a bit odd.
@@cindypucci They were also next to a path that ran down to the river, so that maybe another reason they camped at that spot.
Another sad and interesting story well narrated
During that time period the meal times were still called Breakfast, Dinner, and Supper. Luncheon was just beginning to be used by the upper class. All their statements would have used dinner for the noontime meal, and we can't alter statements to suit modern language.
If Elizabeth was still alive. He might have made that up. I think it was an attack on the child and parents got in the way. It would be interesting to know if there were similar attacks on children in the area at the time. Because they usually don't stop.
Nonsense. There's no evidence at all to suggest that was the motive, and she was killed after the parents. That's just what you *want* to believe, which isn't the same as the truth.
@@patavinity1262 It's a theory, we will never know the truth.
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@@patavinity1262 there’s no evidence to suggest that wasn’t the motive..... and I seriously doubt that she wants something as horrific as that to be the reason!
The fact that Elizabeth was killed an hour after her parents makes it even more plausible for her to be the target
@@mandygraves997 She died three hours after her parents. They said she could only have lived for one hour after the attack, so she MAY have been killed about two hours after her parents. Could be he toyed with her for two hours before killing her.
Wrong place wrong time. Tragedy and senseless murders. Thank you Oddie hope all is well.🙏🙏🇺🇸
What the hell is wrong with Gustave ??? Why didn’t he help the young girl!?!? Something is very wrong with that fact alone…
It could be that he had something to do with it, but honestly he could have just been in shock, that does things to people
I agree with you, Oddie. My very first thought was that someone wanted the parents out of the way so he could have the little girl. Sick. Thanks for being so good at what you do. Love your vids!!
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Dear Oddity, this one stumps me. I am usually good at some who done it stories. This one is a hard one. Oddity , you did a great job on this story. Bravo. About the old man being the killer, its possible he did it. Albert Fish was a older man as well , and he turned out to be a horrible person and killer of poor little children. Great job my friend. Keep up the good wor on. God Bless my friend.
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When the little girl's eyes blinked in the picture I jumped I wad so into it. I love how you do that, and I love love love your channel. Another amazing video your the best . 💖Elaina
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I've been startled by the "still pictures" that will reanimate for a second, eyes blinking facial movements, yeah Oddie got me too.
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@@DP-rx6zf I begin every new video convinced that I won’t have an aneurysm if someone blinks or moves or a flock of birds suddenly moves across the sky but I’ve finally learned to accept the fact that I’m a wimpy chick butt..... and that’s ok with me
That will probably never be solved as so many folks told lies. Thanks for telling us about this. Stay safe and healthy to you and yours.
I had heard of this event before, however, Dear Oddie, it had not gone into as much detail, photos or discussion of what really happened. Well done!
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What a sad story! I find the farmers very suspicious. And the fact, that the child was alive for such a long time AND never tested, is even more suspicious ... 🤔 Perhaps the old man just covered for one of his sons? And who knows what their involvement in the war was? Talking about the Spaniard and the German ... 🤔
I feel that way too!
The amount of time that you spend on your videos is amazing and your attention to detail blows my mind. Like how Elizabeth’s hair was moving when she was sitting upon her horse? Brilliant.
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I love these stories and Oddie you do such a wonderful job on narration, the vintage images and editing.
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Wow Oddie, this was recorded just before Covid let loose! I’m so, so glad you have released these videos. I can’t imagine surviving Melbourne’s many lockdowns without you, you’ve become a friend, and your voice has brought me comfort on many an evening or day when I was otherwise quite alone. What a case this was. Impeccably well done as ever❤️
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It would be interesting to see the area these many years later.
Inspector Maigret would have gotten the right man.
The intelligence agency of the time got rid of him for some reason and the wife and daughter were just collateral damage.
Poor little Elizabeth...she must have been terrified. 🥺
This case literally haunts me. I've watched every video and read some articles I've found about it( including this exact one, several times over :))...idk what exactly makes me nearly obsess over this tragedy but it just feels as if I'm stuck -you know, like, when you've nearly finished a challenging puzzle and you realize a few pieces are missing?? RIP Drummond famly♡
Regardless...great video, as always, and I suspect, sadly, that your theory that this was a sexually motivated crime is most likely. And little Elizabeth was the target.
Thanks for your hard work and research, Oddie♡
Just as it haunted me for many years, this poor family were like lambs to the slaughter.
Yes unfortunately too much evidence points to it being sexually motivated and that the poor child was the target - what really bothers me is the almost criminally botched police work. An absolute shambles.
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My late FIL was a GP. He started his career in the British Army in India and was in Singapore as well. I had shown him an article in an old book of mine about Sir Jack Drummond, and FIL remembered him well. Drummond lectured when he was a young student and he even showed me a book that Drummond had written regarding health, food, etc. Don't know where that is now, sorry.
It was my FILs opinion that MI5/6 had dispatched Sir Jack Drummond, something to do with experimentation on humans. I'm sorry, I really don't remember much of what he said.
Very interesting, thank you so much for sharing that.
What stands out to me the most about this case and makes me not think this involved espionage is the fact that the son implicated that his father had done it…..why on earth would you do that unless either the father WAS guilty or the son himself had committed the murder and used his father as not only a scapegoat but saw an opportunity to get rid of his father to gain an inheritance or something else. Ultimately the initial accusation and the family’s later reluctance to cooperate with the investigation implicates that someone(s) in that family knew what happened
Hi Oddie, I say no way did Gaston commit the crime as the pathologist stated Elizabeth had been carried to where she was later seen by police, I say that with Gaston walking with a cane it would be impossible to carry either a squirming child or one that has been killed. My thoughts are that Gustave murdered them, maybe because of jealousy of their wealth because he was pretty much just a farmhand. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💖
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I haven't heard from you in a while. LOVE you very much. Your BRILLIANT ! The killing of this family was was totally senseless!!!!
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As always you have some of the most intriguing stories. So sad about the little girl. Haven't heard your voice in a while. Again you have the most fascinating way you make the stories unfold. Take care Oddie🙂
Thanks for listening!
I’ve listened to many documentaries on Sir Jack Drummond because of the discoveries he made regarding food & vitamins and much more. I so admire his work. And I just want to say dear friend this is the absolute best doc on him and what happened that ended his & his family’s lives. Thank you.
Murder is such an evil, selfish act.
Your voice is charming to listen to, even with such harsh truths.
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I have briefly heard about this case before but you did a much greater job in covering this case. So many things were done wrong by the police and even that evidence was lost is so tragic. Great work Oddie👏👏😃😃
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I think the old adage “the most likely solution is the simplest one” applies here. The vast majority of these types of crimes have always been sexually motivated and committed by narcissistic psychopaths. It was a small town. Gustave had grown up there and had he been a violent psychopath he probably had a history of scaring the crap out of neighbors. The family was also probably related by blood or marriage to others in the same village including a member or two in law enforcement. One of the most common and un endearing traits of narcissists and psychopaths is blatantly lying at the drop of a hat even when the truth would better serve them. He probably killed the parents and then sexually assaulted the child in some way for a longer uninterrupted period of time .Most violent psychopaths get great sexual enjoyment from the power they feel with the fear and pain they create and he would have kept her alive as long as possible. He may have tried to cover this up by changing the crime scene and rearranging it to suit himself. He was young and strong and it is unlikely that anyone but him was dragging those very heavy dead bodies around.He may have asked to go and cover the child if he was uncertain that she was dead since she had been beaten and not shot. I can very easily see his father claiming to have committed the crime to the family to cover his sons mad actions and later to law enforcement especially if the son was the financial provider for the family and his loss would have left them in complete poverty. To me this is the simplest solution.
I agree with your scenario - it is the most plausible.
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Absolutely brilliant photography used throughout this video, as it is in all your videos. Magnificent!!❤👏
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I had not heard of this case. So heartbreaking…the villagers maintaining the grave sites is a beautiful thing. There family members who don’t take care of their own family’s graves, so it was touching to hear that.
What a sad and tragic case
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Once again you've hit a home run. I have to force myself not to binge watch your stories, because I want to savor them. This one is so sad. I suspect that it wasn't a case of espionage or anything like that-just a perv who was after the little girl, & the parents were killed because they were in the way. Such a shame the way they bungled the investigation so badly.
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I have to confess I've never heard of this case before, what a complete tragedy that poor little girl so young, the whole case is horrendous. But I believe there were dodgy dealings at hand. Sad for all involved. Thank you for yet another brilliant presentation 👍🏻
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This was superb! You are such an amazing storyteller.This case is fascinating.I can’t get enough of true crime.Thank you!
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What a sad and tragic story. Excellent narration Oddie. Thank you for bringing us these tragic cases I have never heard of.
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Every time one of your still pictures blinks it sends chills all over my body. What a great touch.
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The neighbors refusing to speak to police about what they say and/or heard that night puts the lie to many of the theories that have been put forth by commenters here. Had Gustave "just" been a pedophile, they would have spoken up even if they thought it would hurt the parents. They were afraid of someone. I immediately thought that there might have been some kind of local crime organization. The fact that the elder Mr. Domenci had tattoos that turned off the police who interrogated him speaks volumes- they very well could have been Cosa Nostra. If that's the case, then he probably wouldn't have talked to the police even if he knew who had done it as the code of silence that criminal organizations have is such that even if they saw a murder committed and they were being accused of the crime they wouldn't talk to police. If him and his sons were toughs in the area, it would explain why no one talked in the neighborhood.
Very interesting case. Thanks, Oddie, for bringing us another wonderful case and another beautiful presentation!
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Beautifully done, as always, Oddy. Thanks again.
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Thank you oddie for another mystery. As usual you have entertained us all. While watching the picture of Elizabeth when she blinked scared me. Good storytelling.
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Participating in inhumane and unethical interrogation techniques to coerce a confession should be punished harshly by giving those officers the same conviction as the guilty person would get for the crime. It's disgusting and akin to murder itself especially when the death penalty is on the line.
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Thank you as ever, for a thoughtfully researched and scripted episode. This was a particularly sad one - but you get me through it!
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Thank you Oddie. Great video. Appreciate the effort you put in as well 🙏❤️
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Thank you as always, Oddie! You do an amazing job!
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Thanks for all your hard work on these great videos Oddie
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Thanks for your story....it's always a pleasure listening and watching the stories you come up with
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Im watching this in the middle of 2021. I always get a chuckle when I hear someone wishing us a happy 2020! If we had only known!
Another truly bizarre case, artfully presented as ever! Thanks Oddie!!
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The offer of a substantial amount of money for the story. A lot of people got involved. Making their own stories up. A lot of evidence hidden ! Nothing to test .Really interesting case ,watched it several times.
Great video. Sadness overload
Loved it. Your voice always makes me feel calm. Thank you for another fantastically done piece!
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Thank you so much posting old vids for us love your work. Historical, detailed and awesome footage. Much love from Lancaster county Pennsylvania. We love u Oddie!!!!
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Alright another amazing video much love my friend I love your videos thank you for putting time and effort in your videos that's what makes them better than some other
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Another really interesting case. You tell these stories so well.
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so much documents ,photos ,very professional way to tell about dramas we can’t hear .thank You
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The way you narrate these stories..
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I am binging all these. Great job on every video. Love your personal takes at the end 👏👍👌🙌
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Merry Christmas to you too. Great video and I’ve never heard this one. It’s a shame that cases like this left unsolved especially when there was a child involved.
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So good to see you back Oddie, hope you and yours are doing well and staying safe. Much love
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as always, an excellent and very chilling case. i still love this channel and all of your videos.
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Your story old ones are sad but true stuff
Your the best at telling old story 1860 to 2021
The fact that the parents were killed with a bullet to the head proves it was an easy kill to get them out of the way. The carrying away of the little girl and the brutal murder shows passion. She was raped and then murdered by this evil man whomever he was. He knew they were there since the family had gone up to the house to give them notice of their presence. Even if the family was killed for being spies, the fact remains the child was paid attention to and moved and murdered in a different way.
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