Bad Jokes, Lucifer, Ancient Aliens...also the moon is hollow | Josh - Houston | Talk Heathen 04.01

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Komentáře • 560

  • @EricDMurphy
    @EricDMurphy Před 4 lety +311

    I absolutely recognize that I was wrong about the moon. I have no idea what I was thinking and don't have an excuse for such a basic mistake. The correct answer is yes, the moon is tidally locked, making it spin at a rate that corresponds with the earth's spin. As a consequent of that, we only ever see one side of the moon. The far side has been viewed through investigation, but not by looking at it with our eyes. Thank you for the helpful comments, if I don't own my screw-ups, I have no business doing the show :)

    • @RonaldStepp
      @RonaldStepp Před 4 lety +16

      We all braindump. Sometimes our BS meter gets overloaded and overflows into our response reflex.

    • @Jinreeso
      @Jinreeso Před 4 lety +12

      Y’all shouldn’t have been so short and condescending to him. Missed some good opportunities to actually educate and not be dicks.

    • @Ashenshugura
      @Ashenshugura Před 4 lety +7

      No one expects you to know everything. You two did great 👍

    • @RonaldStepp
      @RonaldStepp Před 4 lety +12

      @@Jinreeso your reply sounds more like a dick move than their more-than-patient responses.

    • @Jinreeso
      @Jinreeso Před 4 lety +7

      Ronald Stepp If you think my reply was a dick move then you clearly didn’t hear the laughing they gave the guy. He’s clearly not educated on basic astrophysics and planetary formations. Not a reason to laugh at him, it would have been easy to explain simple science on the formation of the moon as opposed too what happened.

  • @dougharper3095
    @dougharper3095 Před 4 lety +81

    Thank you Eric for immediately admitting that you were wrong about the lunar orbit.
    I am gobsmacked that you did not know that but now you do.

    • @aricliljegren890
      @aricliljegren890 Před 4 lety +4

      I literally did a spit take on the moon thing ... I did a presentation to my second grade class on this fact. The idea that any educated adult was unaware of this fact was mindblowing. Makes it easy to see how people adopt other ideas (like aliens towing hollow moons around the galaxy). Credit to you for acknowledging the mistake though.

    • @large1965
      @large1965 Před 4 lety +3

      Erik was in Godclass when this should have been explained to him. Here ( Godless Amsterdam) every 12y child knows about the earth/moon interlock and how/why its formed.
      Then again, I know very little od thw bible. Like in many other things that are utterly useless...

    • @jimappleby3545
      @jimappleby3545 Před 3 lety

      Blame Pink Floyd for perpetuating the myth that there a "dark side" of the Moon. It is fully illuminated on all sides (at different times) during the course of a month.

  • @adarkerstormishere
    @adarkerstormishere Před 4 lety +47

    The first step toward being right is admitting you were wrong.

  • @mdfitzsimmons
    @mdfitzsimmons Před 4 lety +33

    "What's your evidence that there was a roaming group of Lucifers?"
    I want that on a t-shirt

    • @eltzar72
      @eltzar72 Před 4 lety +1

      I will buy that shirt

    • @tehspamgozehere
      @tehspamgozehere Před 8 dny

      I too would like a roaming group of Lucifers on a t-shirt.
      Oh fine you can put the words on there also.

  • @jasonbladzinski5336
    @jasonbladzinski5336 Před 4 lety +20

    We see one side of the moon, its tidally locked. The moon is always facing us the same way.

  • @timhyatt9185
    @timhyatt9185 Před 4 lety +29

    as a direction of where to look for more info, check into Zoroastrianism -- a great many concepts from there translated over into Judaism and eventually Christianity.....
    for the moon bit -- he's talking about a seismic test that was conducted as part of the moon landing missions. seismically the moon is fairly inactive. The "test impact" was to cause a seismic impulse; they do the same thing here on earth using a small explosive charge, which they couldn't do on the moon for various safety reasons. When they say it "rings like a bell" it's a metaphorical description of the seismic impulse being far less attenuated than was expected. It indicates the moon is largely solid and lacking the molten core the Earth has.
    As for as the crater depth, crater size is a direct function of impact energy and bolide size. (larger & faster has more energy) it's an established that the craters on the moon are NOT "all the same depth"....they vary as a function of size, completely as expected. The phenomena he's talking about is that craters over a certain size, all display a "flattening" due to magma-infiling. This is again expected, IF those craters are of a given size, and occured in a given time frame. That was part of what some of the Apollo landings studied (along with some of the seismic studies) by all the indications we can observe, the large in-filled craters, are all VERY ancient, dating back to what is called the "Heavy Bombardment" period of earth's history.. a time when the earth was so heavily impacted by large bolide impacts, as to render the surface nearly completely molten. If they date to that time, then it is early in the formation and would have been before the moon could have cooled enough still have a molten interior.

    • @Joddit
      @Joddit Před 4 lety +5

      Thanks for this. Should be the top comment. Come on, people! Make it so!

    • @AmaaTV
      @AmaaTV Před 4 lety +1

      Tim Hyatt thank you for your great explanation 👍

    • @timhyatt9185
      @timhyatt9185 Před 4 lety +2

      @@AmaaTV The part that really irks me about these conspiracy types....the information is SO easily obtained; we have smart phones that can access nearly the entire sum of human knowledge; being ignorant in the modern era is a matter of deliberate choice....you can no longer say "i've never been to college to learn that".. you don't have to anymore. you can watch college courses online for FREE..(and if you're of the mindset, the entire last collegate teaching year of Dr Walter Lewin, physics proffessor at MIT, is online for free....it's almost as good as sitting in his classroom. And he's a pretty entertaining teacher to boot.....)

    • @paulatiredofthisshit
      @paulatiredofthisshit Před 4 lety

      The way he claimed it, craters might be deep or shallow, but there's one depth past which no crater goes. Well, I guess so. Somewhere there's a deepest crater on the moon and since it's the deepest, nothing goes deeper. Duh.

    • @timhyatt9185
      @timhyatt9185 Před 4 lety +1

      @@paulatiredofthisshit it's been a while since i had to look into that claim, but it's one i've heard before. The reference is to how a great many of the craters show extensive infilling by magma eruptions... (current models say the "volcanism" was due to the bombardment itself..."cracking the shell" as it were) It's why the mares show such a consistancy and have erased a great many of the original craters of the Heavy Bombardment period. However, like most creationist claims, it's a great deal of cherrypicking and carefully exclusive selection of which craters are examined......
      We have a great many questions about the Moon... but the ones he raised, are not among them.....

  • @simonkoster
    @simonkoster Před 4 lety +62

    The History Channel has much to answer for...

    • @RonaldStepp
      @RonaldStepp Před 4 lety +2

      Oh God, don’t encourage them.

    • @MobyDicksWife
      @MobyDicksWife Před 4 lety +5

      @David Parry Quiet, I remember that too, don't let them know how old we are.

    • @TheRedwater357
      @TheRedwater357 Před 4 lety +6

      They had shows about history? Most have been that mythical period of time when MTV had music.

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 Před 4 lety +15

    "I know religion isn't real!"
    Well, religion itself is real, the question is whether or not what they claim is.

  • @nihilivocem5768
    @nihilivocem5768 Před 4 lety +6

    I was introduced to Jen on the last episode of Atheist Experience, and I stuck around and listened to Godless Bitches.
    She certainly didn't hold back from being offensive on there (which she shouldn't.)
    However, they read the 7 tenets of the satanic temple, and praised them highly. Including number 4 - "The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own.
    "
    To then see her reaction to the caller's use of the word "retarded" struck me as monumentally hypocritical. Her actions doesn't comport with her professed beliefs. It is perfectly fine to be offensive, as long as there is no slight to what she holds personally dear.
    There are religious people who hold their beliefs as dearly as she does her autistic son. Which is why for years we have been fighting for the freedom to question, criticize and mock everything, no matter how personal it might be to someone.
    In this case no offense was even meant, it was simply a confused man, likely not from a liberal stronghold. It wasn't directed as a personal attack, it wasn't an intentional slur. Yet the reaction was one of angry offense, stating that it "doesn't fly, ever!"
    Hypocrisy.

  • @xavierandradev
    @xavierandradev Před 4 lety +23

    If the moon was hollow we would know it from its gravitational field. Its orbit and tides would be different from what we observe.

    • @internettevarolanadam
      @internettevarolanadam Před 4 lety +4

      Shh. No logic...

    • @kubakutyna7633
      @kubakutyna7633 Před 4 lety +3

      No, it's ancient spaceship put there by aliens. It has artificial gravity.
      And is made of cheese :P

    • @dennisdavis6943
      @dennisdavis6943 Před 4 lety +3

      True, unless the material that made up the shell was extremely dense so that it would have the same mass as a less dense solid moon. Mathematically the center of mass is the only thing that matters.

    • @VoiceOfIrrationality
      @VoiceOfIrrationality Před 4 lety

      @@dennisdavis6943 Yes, but only for the gravitational field of spherically symmetrical objects.

    • @jamesboyd5305
      @jamesboyd5305 Před 3 lety +1

      " It rang like a bell...welp...thats that..the moon is hollow...case closed...3 words...the entire moon?

  • @AlexPBenton
    @AlexPBenton Před 4 lety +38

    There’s nothing deeper than the deepest crater, why would that be surprising?

    • @UngoogleableMan
      @UngoogleableMan Před 4 lety +8

      And why would that indicate its hollow?? I would think that indicates its incredibly dense. If it were hollow, impacts would dent it a lot more than they do, as a hollow moon would be significantly less structurally sound.

    • @AndersKjeldgaardNielsen
      @AndersKjeldgaardNielsen Před 4 lety +1

      Exactly, the objects won't keep going into the moon, they will be scattered by the force as well will lose momentum and power when it hit, which will result in a large crater. It absolutely doesn't do anything about it being a hollow moon, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard.

    • @a.d.prayer1779
      @a.d.prayer1779 Před 4 lety +1

      I think what he was trying to say if they would have let him speak on it was no matter how wide the crater he is due to impact all of them stop at say 100 feet in depth. And if that is true it is very intriguing.

    • @murph8411
      @murph8411 Před 4 lety

      A.D.Prayer not really when you consider the release of energy when very fast moving objects collide with the moon

    • @murph8411
      @murph8411 Před 4 lety

      Anders Kjeldgaard Nielsen it’s not a case of denting or scattering parts so much when a meteor or asteroid collides with the moon. There is a huge release of energy because of the speed the object is travelling and therefore its kinetic energy. The object is sometimes vaporised in this impact and the moon’s surface is thrown out. Sometimes resulting in unusual effects or patterns.
      I think some of the impacts have left areas that are miles deep in the very large cases so not exactly shallow.

  • @valentinaperez8256
    @valentinaperez8256 Před 4 lety +4

    "I just want you to know that you're going to hell" Honestly a power move in greetings ksjksjksjk

  • @WarhavenSC
    @WarhavenSC Před 4 lety +12

    "Sorry if you don't like the word." Nice non-apology.

  • @chuckfriebe843
    @chuckfriebe843 Před 4 lety +17

    That was the strangest exchange that I've ever witnessed on this show, from both sides.

  • @nahhfam7678
    @nahhfam7678 Před 4 lety +9

    "I know I'm crazy" Ah the old Eddie Bravo defence.

  • @johnd.shultz7423
    @johnd.shultz7423 Před 4 lety +15

    As a child during the 60's i was forced to attend church/catholic mass on Sunday mornings and catechism/catholic teachings on Saturday mornings,this forced attendance cut into a very important time period for me i.e. Saturday and Sunday morning cartoons( which i greatly enjoyed vs catholic mass which i hated) this led to a general resentment towards all things catholic at an early age.Years later i came to realize that cartoons, with their ever present duality between hero and villain-good and bad characters often presented in colorfull or humorous manner was/is very similiar to the morality play in the teachings of the bible and just as "real" but without the catholic fear factor of guilt and eternal punishment in a fiery Hell.I sense it would have been a healthier (psychologically) choice to stay home in my comfy jammies,eat cereal with milk and peruse colorfull cartoons and thusly avoid the grim,dim teachings of catholicism.

    • @jimbeaux1442
      @jimbeaux1442 Před 3 lety

      I Was in a First Methodist church at that same time. They made it a lot more fun I guess, and there were a lot of other kids there. I also hold fond memories of the Catholic church. Boy scout meetings were held there and we used to run all over that place. Strange how we are able have such different feelings about what is essentially the same experience.

  • @owen4218
    @owen4218 Před 4 lety +2

    "Roving group of Lucifers in the hollow moon" is the name of my rock opera

  • @CPCGamer
    @CPCGamer Před 4 lety +7

    I'm so glad that when I believed this stuff it was in the era of the internet that existed before people started writing stuff down and making note of it.

    • @mrjones2721
      @mrjones2721 Před 4 lety +3

      CPCGamer Agreed. I loved all this stuff as a kid, but there was no way for me to put it on permanent public record.
      Childhood and adolescence were so much less stressful when there was no proof of your past idiocy beyond a box of old journals and your school photographs.

  • @bpdmf2798
    @bpdmf2798 Před rokem +1

    The confidence with the statement about the moon not facing us by the host is a reminder to everybody to not just trust what people say, even with confidence. Look stuff up for yourself. Use your brain, don't just ingest the internet.

  • @ickeausberlin36
    @ickeausberlin36 Před 4 lety +3

    When Eric came up with his moon idea I immediately paused the video and looked it up in fear I might have had a misconception for about 30 years. At least that was a good exercise in thinking for myself.

  • @DoctorT144
    @DoctorT144 Před 4 lety

    This caller was AMAZING! Thanks for calling in dude!

  • @rogermccaslin6750
    @rogermccaslin6750 Před 4 lety +25

    Josh will be flat earthing in no time.

  • @shanestrickland5006
    @shanestrickland5006 Před 4 lety +11

    Lucifer is Latin for morning star or light bringer.

    • @edrick106
      @edrick106 Před 3 lety +1

      And ironically he's the prince of darkness

  • @wickedninja8599
    @wickedninja8599 Před 4 lety +5

    The look on Eric's face is priceless when this guy gets into the conspiracy stuff! LOL He looks like a kid in a candy store!

  • @AMGPilot
    @AMGPilot Před 4 lety +8

    Man I want to go out drinking with Josh! It would be hilarious!!!

  • @AceOThorns
    @AceOThorns Před 4 lety +6

    Two words... "Spirit"... "Science".

  • @gabrieljordan8015
    @gabrieljordan8015 Před 4 lety +2

    I traveled to the moon last night to do some measuring so I could confirm everything this guy is saying is true - but before I could get my tape measure out my alarm clock went off.

  • @darrenlowe3445
    @darrenlowe3445 Před 4 lety +20

    Noah was 500+ year old man when he built an ark and had it filled with two of every species. Why atheists don’t take the bible serious absolutely baffles me 😁

    • @Ashenshugura
      @Ashenshugura Před 4 lety +2

      @David Parry Probably their mother. 😌

    • @joshua.merrill
      @joshua.merrill Před 4 lety +1

      @David Parry Probably the same place the wives for Adam and Eve's sons came from...

    • @Crasson08
      @Crasson08 Před 4 lety

      He didn't need two of every species, just two of every kind.

    • @Crasson08
      @Crasson08 Před 4 lety

      @Paul Morgan That's the devil

  • @TacticalOtter2
    @TacticalOtter2 Před 4 lety +6

    It’s kind of insulting that Eric used a slur meant to demean those who struggle with mental health to insult the caller, then both hosts turn around and scold Josh for using an ableist slur immediately afterwords

    • @necrohmortis
      @necrohmortis Před 4 lety

      And they don't respond to this to apologize for their slurs.

    • @eljudiomasloco
      @eljudiomasloco Před 4 lety

      Stop fucking whining nutbag

    • @TacticalOtter2
      @TacticalOtter2 Před 4 lety

      Alex Alexinzky oh you’re just the most wonderful type of person

    • @CajinVaren
      @CajinVaren Před 26 dny

      "Crazy" isnt a slur its a description just like "Insane" isnt a slur.
      Please reconfigure your offend-o-meter.

  • @VoiceOfIrrationality
    @VoiceOfIrrationality Před 4 lety +2

    "Seriously joking" is the oxymoron of the day.

  • @rebeccag7251
    @rebeccag7251 Před 4 lety +26

    I saw a documentary about mermaids 🧜🏻‍♀️. They are totally real.
    🤦‍♀️

    • @darthmong7196
      @darthmong7196 Před 4 lety +5

      I bet it was 'Mermaids: the New Evidence'. It took me a year and several trips to Imdb to convince my mum that it was a mockumentary.

    • @darthmong7196
      @darthmong7196 Před 4 lety +2

      @@DoctaOsiris Dragons? Aww shit don't tell my Mum...

    • @Tuff_love
      @Tuff_love Před 4 lety

      Rebecca you just killed me with that comment.😂😂😂🤣🤣

    • @nadircatalkaya5011
      @nadircatalkaya5011 Před 4 lety

      Humanoid form is not capable of survive in water.

    • @88marome
      @88marome Před 4 lety

      I had a friend who actually said "Ghosts are real, I saw them on TV!"

  • @hannahdivic28
    @hannahdivic28 Před 4 lety

    I needed this guy in my day. Thank you for taking his call and not hanging up 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @JohnWDisco
    @JohnWDisco Před 4 lety +1

    FUCK YEA!!! Thank you Jen Aldrich for correcting the caller, when he miss used the work "theory".

  • @sulcuryaltinone4570
    @sulcuryaltinone4570 Před 4 lety +6

    “Facts” that I heard on “documentaries”. That come from “scientists”

  • @BeethoD
    @BeethoD Před 4 lety +7

    This is ridiculous everybody knows the Moon was created by Hagoromo and his brother, Hamura, when they sealed their mother, Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, with Six Paths - Chibaku Tensei.
    Crazy people.

    • @BeethoD
      @BeethoD Před 4 lety +1

      @Raphael Of Course and by Naruto you mean the multi episode documentary about the land of fire.

  • @PckJuc
    @PckJuc Před 4 lety +15

    Isn't the moon tidally locked

  • @korncows1
    @korncows1 Před 4 lety +2

    Omfg he said " i believe what I'm most likely saying is" nwhshahahahhahahaha bwhahahahha

  • @blastsphere2007
    @blastsphere2007 Před 3 lety +1

    The craters we can see on the moon from the near side are all a very similar depth as impacts all have to happen at a steep angle to get to there because it's tidally locked, the far side of the moon however has vastly different craters.

  • @serpentinious7745
    @serpentinious7745 Před 4 lety +2

    A roving group of pissed off angels? Lol. Maybe they called themselves *The Hateful Halos*

  • @mikefromwa
    @mikefromwa Před 4 lety +5

    I think you guys should have a red warning light you can turn on when people like this call.

  • @moultonlavagaming
    @moultonlavagaming Před 4 lety +4

    We see 62% of the moon just depends on it’s phases and how far it is away from us.
    The caller is totally wrong. The moon rotated and spins at the same rate and it isn’t a rare thing in the universe. Lots of moons are title locked to their planets. Pluto has a title locked moon

  • @DWyntersBoringTales
    @DWyntersBoringTales Před 3 lety

    My thought in the first minute: I'm going to Norway? Neat!

  • @Phoenix-ej2sh
    @Phoenix-ej2sh Před 3 lety +1

    Tidal locking is a well known aspect of gravitational mechanics and is quite common in the universe. In fact, tidally locked moons are the norm in our solar system, not the exception. All 4 Galilean moons, for example, are tidally locked. It can be perfectly explained by purely natural phenomena and is in no way indicative of alien intelligence or interference.

  • @VoiceOfIrrationality
    @VoiceOfIrrationality Před 4 lety +1

    Josh himself says the moon is "tidal locked to the earth" at 19:40. Tidal lock is a phenomenon that is explained by how gravitational fields work. Mercury is also tidal locked to the sun (although in a different phase). So tidal lock is the REASON the moon presents the same face (more or less) to the earth. Interesting that Josh gives the name of the reason (tidal lock) in the same sentence in which he states there is no reason it should be so.

  • @Silvertongue8
    @Silvertongue8 Před 4 lety +1

    This was brilliant!!!!!!:-) :-) :-)

  • @rawhideleather
    @rawhideleather Před 4 lety +3

    Did somebody spike my coffee or something?

  • @mrhdbnger
    @mrhdbnger Před 3 lety +1

    The moon is a hollow ball and I have touched the sky. That is how our ancestors traveled here. The hairdressers and phone sanitizers that we all descended from. It all makes sense now.

  • @mrjones2721
    @mrjones2721 Před 4 lety +1

    The hollow moon must be incredibly thin and fragile if something as comparatively small as a spacecraft part makes it ring for hours.

  • @toeval622
    @toeval622 Před 4 lety +8

    Mercury's rotates exactly three times for every two times it revolves around the Sun.
    That seems even more unlikely, so there must be aliens there as well.

  • @loki6626
    @loki6626 Před 4 lety +4

    The earth is also slowing its rotation due to tidal effects. Today is 1.7 milliseconds longer than a day was a century ago. 500 million years ago a day was 21 hours long.

    • @loki6626
      @loki6626 Před 4 lety

      @Raymond Palmer Ok ??

    • @sulcuryaltinone4570
      @sulcuryaltinone4570 Před 4 lety

      Loki Arthurson I hope you thought about what you said Loki.

    • @loki6626
      @loki6626 Před 4 lety

      @@sulcuryaltinone4570 Thought about it. What's the problem?

    • @sulcuryaltinone4570
      @sulcuryaltinone4570 Před 4 lety +1

      Loki Arthurson heh, just playing around. I want to know as well.

    • @loki6626
      @loki6626 Před 4 lety

      @@sulcuryaltinone4570 Its correct as far as I know. Thought I'd 'done an Eric'.

  • @ChrisORiley
    @ChrisORiley Před 4 lety +1

    The caller is talking about the moon being tidally locked to the Earth - that it's orbit and revolutions are synchronized such that one face always points to the earth. This is NOT highly unlikely, as most major moons in the solar system are similarly locked to their parent planet - Mars has 2 locked moons, Jupiter has 8, Saturn has 15, Uranus has 5, Neptune 2 and Pluto has 1. There are 25 other moons of Saturn, Uranus and Neptune that are thought likely to be tidally locked, we just haven't confirmed them to be.
    This happens through entirely natural means. The basic process is that the parent planet's gravity creates tidal bulges on the moon. If the moon's rotation is faster or slower, that bulge is either carried away from or lags behind facing the planet. The planet's gravitational forces pull on the increased mass in those bulges, imparting a torque on the moon's rotation that either slows down or speed up the rotation. Put simply, a bulge forms in the moon, and the increased mass in that bulge results in increased gravitational attraction that resists being carried away from facing the planet.
    This highlights the problem of being utterly uninterested in the truth. The explanation of this process is available to anyone by way of a two minute internet search. Yet the caller takes this admittedly interesting occurrence, fails to research it in any way and concludes it's best explanation is that aliens tow moons around the universe to set up bases from which to observe the development of apes on other planets. I'm exaggerating here, but the point remains.

  • @MrBozoOzo
    @MrBozoOzo Před 20 dny

    The moon is hollow, it was brought here by aliens... and its a bell? Did he really say that? Oh, its like a bell. And craters... wow 🎉 best call ever

  • @davidantell2855
    @davidantell2855 Před 4 lety +2

    I may have been born at night, but, it wasn't lsn't last night.....

  • @PRAlex13
    @PRAlex13 Před 4 lety +2

    At least, from what Im hearing, it seems he believes in space. Too many flat earthers around these days, not enough ancient alienees, guess that's too 2012.

  • @demetricorcovelos1114
    @demetricorcovelos1114 Před 2 lety +2

    I will admit that I have been high enough to watch that series & thought it was interesting & had some possibilities but what happens in someone's life that would allow them to believe in something so far out there
    Even peyote & a lot of excellent pot couldn't get me to really believe in this level of crazy

  • @OwOraTheWitch
    @OwOraTheWitch Před 4 lety

    What people mean when they say the moon is "tidally locked" is that the moon is close enough to the earth that tidal forces lock it's rotation to the same rate as it's orbit. That's because as you go further away from a massive object, the pull of gravity you feel towards it gets weaker. The moon is very big, so the side of the moon we see is actually being pulled harder by Earth's gravity than the far side. That force difference is large enough that it keeps one side of the moon facing the planet. So in this case, the probability of the rotation period of the moon being the same as the orbit period is 1.

  • @Nkosi766
    @Nkosi766 Před 4 lety +4

    Lucifer is was the planet Venus

    • @shanestrickland5006
      @shanestrickland5006 Před 4 lety +2

      Yep and Lucifer is Latin.
      But it also mean's morning star in reference to Venus .

  • @carter6456
    @carter6456 Před 4 lety +3

    Awesome clip, and also thank you so much for correcting them on the r slur oh man

  • @jtstar10
    @jtstar10 Před 4 lety +3

    Should have been a 5 min call tops!!

  • @roaxeskhadil
    @roaxeskhadil Před 4 lety +2

    The correct response to the Moon being tidally locked to earth being "highly unlikely" would have been to point out that this is not a rare phenomenon. Mercury is tidally locked to the Sun, as are quite a lot of the known exoplanets to their respective star; most of the major moons in sour solar system are tidally locked to their planet, and in the case of Pluto, both Pluto and Charon are locked to their partner.
    So not rare or unlikely at all, just physics.

    • @roaxeskhadil
      @roaxeskhadil Před 4 lety

      @Nature and Physics You're right. It's a 3:2 resonance, not a true tidal lock. My bad.

    • @roaxeskhadil
      @roaxeskhadil Před 4 lety

      @Nature and Physics Ganymede: Orbit 176 hours - synchronous rotation, Europa 85 hours - synchrnous rotation, Io 42 hours - synchronous rotation.
      Pluto / Charon - orbit 248 years (around the sun, 153 hours around Pluto in case of Charon), rotation: 6 d, 9 h, 17 m (both)
      You're seeing a pattern by looking at a small subset, that doesn't hold for the complete set. And overlooking the real pattern as a a result.

    • @roaxeskhadil
      @roaxeskhadil Před 4 lety

      @Nature and Physics Exactly my point: you're suffering from selection bias.
      - Mercury's and the Moon's slow rotation -> due to tidal lock / orbital resonance with their respective partner.
      - Venus, yes slow, but on top retrograde, which is quite likely linked (an impact flipping Venus "upside down").
      - Earth does not really have a slow rotation, so even that breaks the patter you think you see.
      It's not about "planets near the Sun" it's about "comparatively small bodies relatively close to large bodies."
      Sun >>>>>>>>> Mercury
      Earth >> Moon
      Jupiter >>>>>> Io / Europa / Ganymede
      And Pluto / Charon are an edge case: two small bodies of roughly equal size (from an Astronomer's point of view) orbiting close to each other.
      Sun -> Venus / Earth / Mars / Jupiter / Saturn / Neptune are not locked or in resonance, because they are too massive and too far away from each other. (With some additional complications like Venus' retrograde rotation.)

    • @roaxeskhadil
      @roaxeskhadil Před 4 lety

      @Nature and Physics _"Venus doesn't rotate 'backwards'. Its axial tilt is +177 degrees"_
      Seriously? Did you read what you wrote there? And think about the meaning of the words?
      If you spin something clockwise and give it an "axial tilt of +177 degrees", does it not then turn 'backwards' unless you change the way you look at it?
      And, by the way: the definition of "retrograde" is "against it's main direction of movement", i.e. it's orbital movement.

    • @roaxeskhadil
      @roaxeskhadil Před 4 lety

      @Nature and Physics _"Venus may also be in a 5 : 4 rotational resonance"_
      That's bollocks. Venus' siderial day is 243 days. Earth's is 23:56 h.

  • @thegrouchization
    @thegrouchization Před 3 lety

    IIRC tidal locking is actually fairly common between bodies of a given mass, to the point where most spherical moons (and several of the irregular ones) in the Sol system are locked with their respective planets.
    The moons don't even need a stable orbit to be locked. Luna (our moon) and Deimos (one of Mars') are both gradually drifting away from their planets, and Phobos (Mars' other moon) is falling toward the planet. All three are still locked.
    The effect can also be mutual if the masses are similar enough, as Pluto and Charon are tidally locked with each other.

  • @Lambert1386
    @Lambert1386 Před 2 lety

    And this is why I love this show.

  • @alexandramonet8068
    @alexandramonet8068 Před 4 lety +1

    Man, this is wiiiiiild!!!

  • @Fraterchaoraterchaos
    @Fraterchaoraterchaos Před 4 lety +1

    Dear Josh,
    Tidal locking is extremely common. It is NOT in any way an indication of anything strange, nor is the probability of it not being tidally locked, is not really that much greater than the probability of it being tidally locked. In fact, given the distance and the ratios of the sizes of earth and the moon, it is impossible for it NOT to be tidally locked.
    Most of Jupiter's moons are tidally locked, did aliens set them up too? And if so, why?

  • @originoflogos
    @originoflogos Před 4 lety +5

    Josh has to be an IRL troll or something lol

    • @chuckwaardenburg496
      @chuckwaardenburg496 Před rokem

      Josh is absolutely not a troll. If you do a little research on it. You might fall into the rabbit hole..

  • @supreme84x
    @supreme84x Před 4 lety +1

    4:10 It isn't a theory or hypothesis. It is an idea. To become a hypothesis, you have to come up with a method of falsification.

  • @alangarland8571
    @alangarland8571 Před 4 lety +2

    "The moon could have a reason"
    Then what might that be?
    Maybe it's just a big security camera?

  • @brucesuchman1253
    @brucesuchman1253 Před 3 lety

    I used to do slate roofing, slate is not hollow and it does ring... Unless it's cracked, that causes the ring to dull very quickly. If there are no edges to rub against each other, then it will ring

  • @kylelamperez507
    @kylelamperez507 Před 4 lety +6

    other moons in our own solar system also have tidal locking it's not a rare phenomenon it's due to gravitational phenomena

  • @BillyBong
    @BillyBong Před 2 lety

    Where did this guy get the info that the moons rings when force is applied to the surface?

  • @petrusnierop31
    @petrusnierop31 Před 4 lety

    The easiest way to study tidal locking is to put a spinning ball in a bucket with water. At some stage the heaviest point will be down. Mark the top as the light point. Spin several times and the ball will always point the say way up. The Moon surface flexes under the Earth gravity and this converts rotational energy in warmth. And this has been going on for billions of years till we now tidally locked.

  • @sassyinscrubs5206
    @sassyinscrubs5206 Před 4 lety +3

    "The moon could have a reason" ??? What???? How much dope did he smoke?

  • @theslimcreeper3779
    @theslimcreeper3779 Před 4 lety +2

    The first time I heared of Ancient Aliens was in a book from author Erich von Däniken. I think I was 10 or 11 at that time. The Book was from the early 80s or late 70s I guess.
    And I LOVED it! I've never looked up ancient aliens again, but everything he'd written, was not only interesting and fun, but it sounded like it made total sense in his conclusions. Like depictions of Angels and their wagons, that were highly similar to what we would define as rockets. My 10 year old mind was blown.
    It sparkled some interest in hystory and stuff which I never followed through, but it had nontheless a very large inprint on me.
    I know, that I can be sucked in easily in conspiracy theories, when they use structures that seem logical on a first view, without deeper knowledge on any suspect. So I always have had to be very careful (looking at you Dan Brown, you well written Bastard;-*). But at the same time, it also ignites over and over again my thirst on ancient history:) same goes for some storylines from some Mikey Mouse comics. At least the storys written by Don Rosa.
    I wonder how much von Däniken has been proven wrong untill this day.
    Also. Fun Fuct. There has been a Mickey Mouse Comic Story with a parody of Von Däniken in it.

    • @mrjones2721
      @mrjones2721 Před 4 lety +1

      The Slim Creeper Von Däniken was torn apart immediately-for starters, he’d buy anything anyone told him was an ancient find, so some of his evidence is obvious forgeries. He was fun, though.

    • @theslimcreeper3779
      @theslimcreeper3779 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mrjones2721 not saying that I believe him anymore. But as you said. He was fun. And I bet he still is. In fact, I'm watching an old Documentary of his. It's fun really and makes ne think of so many things, that either don't add up or could had even better/simpler explanations^^

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 Před 4 lety +1

      In my early twenties I loved his books! I was always a science fiction fiend and fascinated by mythology/religion; his claims were fun and wild.

    • @theslimcreeper3779
      @theslimcreeper3779 Před 4 lety

      @@kathryngeeslin9509 yeah I mean if you think about it, his stories and hypothethis would lay GREAT groundwork for some more "down-to-earth" science-fiction novels I guess! I mean, I'd definetly read them

  • @kurtstallings
    @kurtstallings Před 4 lety +2

    "What I am mostly likely saying ...." = Josh: I" have no idea where I got this from, but I not only believe it I'm extrapolating a whole bunch of other crazy stuff from it." How did I KNOW he was going to wind up citing The "History" Channel?

  • @ZeroKage69
    @ZeroKage69 Před 4 lety

    As for why the moon is tidally locked, it's a combination of factors. The orbit of the moon causes a torque on the moon due to gravity from the earth which can change the rotation of the moon which over time brings it into a stable tidally locked orbit. It's actually not as improbable as it appears because the physics will naturally produce this result given a range of starting conditions.

  • @keithstegall9486
    @keithstegall9486 Před 4 lety +1

    It's called tidal locking. only one side of the moon is visible from Earth because the moon rotates on its axis at the same rate the moon orbits the earth a situation known is synchronous rotation

  • @miconis123
    @miconis123 Před 3 lety

    I'm fascinated by the Ancient Aliens idea but only believe that there's been knowledge we've lost and had to rediscover.

  • @bpdmf2798
    @bpdmf2798 Před rokem

    All the moon seismography tells us it's that we don't know the exact composition of the moon. It didn't ring like a bell, from some googling it seems the moon "reverberated" in a way that we didn't expect which doesn't tell us much. It didn't ring like a big moon dinner bell. The ever so slight movements of the moon were a bit different than what we thought. The Earth rings like a bell too. The Earth is damn near always churning and shaking.

  • @jordivilaioliveras
    @jordivilaioliveras Před rokem

    A lot of moons in the solar system are "locked" presenting always the same face. It's common.
    And we have maths and physics, two tools what gives us the possiblity to weight the Moon without needing a scale. it's great to take some maths courses and made the calculations. Josh should do that

  • @matthewvandeventer3632

    The moon is tidally locked!!!!

  • @nickgr8artist
    @nickgr8artist Před 4 lety +2

    Where's EJ when you need them? This would have been such a good call for them to show off in.

  • @darthmong7196
    @darthmong7196 Před 4 lety +1

    Belief apparently doesn't require sufficient research to know words such as Lunar Module Ascent stage.

  • @littlewoodimp
    @littlewoodimp Před 4 lety +1

    No, the moon was made by Soup Dragon so that the Clangers had somewhere to live.

  • @PacesIII
    @PacesIII Před 4 lety +4

    God did it.
    Sorry...
    The Anunnaki did it....

  • @user-ly2ej8gy2t
    @user-ly2ej8gy2t Před 6 měsíci

    Okay, real talk. Craters on the Moon indeed have a maximum depth. But not because of the aliens. It's because when you hit the Moon too hard, the lava just fills the krater up to a certain level.
    And now I do not understand, why no one covered this in three years.

  • @williest1
    @williest1 Před 4 lety

    Tidal lock - the speed of rotation and orbit are both 27 days, so we only see that one side. but it DOES rotate!

  • @jimjloehr
    @jimjloehr Před 4 lety +2

    Josh is "skeptical", but he gets all of his information from the Ancient Aliens show on The History Channel. A simple google search for "hollow moon" would discredit the crazy ideas he (and the History Channel) has.

    • @loki6626
      @loki6626 Před 4 lety

      You googled hollow moon? I think it's safe to just dismiss it without further investigation.

    • @jimjloehr
      @jimjloehr Před 4 lety

      @@loki6626 I like to investigate when I hear a particularly new brand of crazy

    • @loki6626
      @loki6626 Před 4 lety

      @@jimjloehr I can't judge you, I spend way too much time arguing with flat earthers and googling the bullshit they talk about.

    • @marcusxperia5291
      @marcusxperia5291 Před 4 lety

      @@loki6626 So what do you think about the Nikon P900 vs. P1000 controversy? ;)

    • @loki6626
      @loki6626 Před 4 lety

      @@marcusxperia5291 I have no idea what you're talking about. Nikon... cameras???

  • @tehspamgozehere
    @tehspamgozehere Před 8 dny

    Tidal lock of a planet and moon. Aaactually.. Tidally locked bodies are the norm, given sufficient time.

  • @MobyDicksWife
    @MobyDicksWife Před 4 lety +1

    So.......Were all the billions of other moons in the universe also put there by aliens, or just some of them? I am so confused.

  • @nic12344
    @nic12344 Před 3 lety

    So, they dropped a _hollow metal_ capsule on the moon and it ringed like a _hollow metal_ object...
    Umm... Must be aliens and god!

  • @WCM1945
    @WCM1945 Před 4 lety

    It was hypothesized that the moon's interior is much less solid than the surface. That doesn't remotely imply that it's hollow. Many TV producers and others who benefit from publishing controversial material have released publications promoting many unsupported theories. But the known density of the moon indicated that it cannot be hollow.

  • @nfrick1
    @nfrick1 Před 4 lety

    The moon is made of cheese and was put there by alien mice from planet Rat. Next call!

  • @martinswitzer6534
    @martinswitzer6534 Před 3 lety

    Not even a hypothesis... merely a belief. A hypothesis is the starting point that is then tested. A belief doesn't get that far.

  • @carolinenagel7085
    @carolinenagel7085 Před 8 měsíci

    Mercury is tidally locked to the sun. Jupiter's moon Io and Saturn's moon Enceladus are also tidally locked to their respective planets. As aremore moons in our solar system.

  • @sonofme2
    @sonofme2 Před 4 lety

    The moon's one quarter the size of the Earth, yet has 1-10th of the Earth's mass, which perplexes scientists. Also they crashed the Apollo 11 lunar module 100 miles from the seismometer and rang like a bell for 40 minutes! On a later mission they crashed the module at a higher vilosity 300 miles away and it rang for 3 hours!

  • @chipbacon1499
    @chipbacon1499 Před 4 lety +1

    So, if our moon was brought here by aliens, please explain all the other known moons in our solar system.

  • @mojobag01
    @mojobag01 Před 4 lety

    6:50 so far and I have spilt my coffee and my ribs are hurting. Will probably update if apoplexy doesn't take me.

  • @tetsujin_144
    @tetsujin_144 Před 2 lety

    11:36 - "facts that I've heard on 'documentaries'"
    History Channel?
    11:56 - Yup, History Channel. XD

  • @marysouza1882
    @marysouza1882 Před 4 lety

    There are lots of planets and moons that are tidal locked, it's very common.

  • @daelnelbel
    @daelnelbel Před 4 lety

    That is straight out of Spirit Science.