Knife Sharpening Hack for Guided Sharpening Systems - More Consistency with The Drill Stop Collar
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2024
- If you've been doing a moderate amount of research online for a guided sharpening system. You've probably heard about the angle change you can get when using stones of various thickness.
In this video we go over a sharpening hack that has caught fire amongst knife sharpening fanatics. It is a difficult concept to grasp without a visual component, so take your time and watch this video a time or two (or three) if need be.
If you are new to sharpening, or just purchased an Edge Pro - you will probably not need to bother with this sharpening hack initially. But once you start buying replacement stones and you are using a combination of old and new stones the information in this video will eventually become more relevant.
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Here are links to everything used in the video:
Drill stop collar - www.edgeproinc.com/accessorie...
Angle Gauge - www.edgeproinc.com/accessorie...
Stone Leveling Stuff - www.edgeproinc.com/sharpening...
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What is the verdict? Theory #1, #2, or #3? How much angle variation do you think a really good freehand sharpener gets?
Just ordered one from you guys have been using one for years and the Allen key for this one’s thin and finnicky like the big screw stop on yours can’t wait to sharpen a knife with the new drill stop collar 😂
@@BillySAw951 Thank you very much! I just shipped your order. We include the stock set-screw which is tightened with a 3/32 hex (probably the same thing you already have). We also include a Socket Head Cap screw (what I'm using in the video) which can either be tightened by hand or a 5/32 hex key if you need a little extra torque.
Each choice is useful. I think it comes down to what you “reach for” and use most often.
I’ve been using a small wooden clothes pin for years. I may have to upgrade! 🙂
I love how Edgepro is always offering new content and products! New videos, machines like the BevelTech, the stop collar, bench mount, 1/2 inch stones, the list goes on and on…
Thanks Patrick!
-Cody
I used a stop collar for years on my edge pro system, b4 you guys came out with this. It's now nice that u offer this.
Hi Chris, Yes I drug my feet for awhile because I wanted to make an informative video to go along with it. It's very difficult to explain this concept without a visual reference. Now if customers ask I can send them this video.
I use option 1.5. If the knife edge angle is working well I will use the marks a lot trick and adjust the angle to evenly remove the mark all along the blade then I will lock in the angle and then set the drill stop collar. Burr comes quick so less blade and stone wear but I’m still a rookie so don’t know what I don’t know. This was a a helpful video for my tinkering mind.👍
It sounds to me like you're on the right track!
LOL, I guess I'm a sharpening geek. Maybe I should find a t-shirt. I suppose I've always been into a very keen edge. As I've aged, my ability to stay consistent with excellent edges has depended on a fixed system like EP. I have both Apex and Pro, the my Apex is more for long trout bum / camping trips these days. I've used the collar from day 2 of my getting my first autographed EP. I rarely use the angle guage unless a precise angle is requested, I will typically just replicate the original using marker pen method. Once the angle is found, then I set the collar to the first stone I used in the progression. I will continue through stropping/polishing phase using the collar too, edge trailing and zero pressure. Using a BESS measurement regularly to assess my work at my target of under < 50 grams of pressure. For me, a degree or two deviation is too much on a fixed angle system, so why not be precise? It costs but a few seconds and the cost of a collar. Great to see you firing up the video cam Cody. You guys keep up the great work! Kenny
Thanks Kenny! Yes - the example here with the 2 degree variation is about as extreme as you will ever see. One of the measurements was taken with just a stone blank, and the other was a 1/4" thick stone - which is what some of the after-market stones come as. Our stones are 1/8" thick so I guess you could cut that maximum variation in half if you were using all stock stones. Appreciate the comment and encouragement. I have a couple more video's in the works I think you'll appreciate as a long time Edge Pro user!
I use the drill stop, its great. Like you said - its best for getting the extra performance out. Some of my friends are into sharpening, but not high performance. They sometimes have trouble with hard steels (S30V etc). When they have trouble they bring it to me to get it done, with the Edge Pro. I have found that a common difficulty is when going to a finer stone, if the angle changes unfavorably - it can be very difficult to get back to a burr. Sometimes they are just working a secondary bevel instead of to the apex. The drill stop collar allows me to exactly match the angle and minimize work on the finer stones to get a super sharp edge.
I agree 100%. Most of the time I only bother with making adjustments when I get to my finishing stones.
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I use theory 2 mainly,sometimes no.3
I could see if you were sharpening a REALLY dull knife, your stone could wear down by the time you developed a burr and change. I'm leaning toward #2.
Wonder how much variation a good freehand sharpener gets? Probably unknowable, but I doubt any of them can go through a series of 3 stones without a fair range. Really a good video. Thanks!
I think a person could test that. If you had a wide enough knife you could put the angle gauge on the knife while you sharpen. I'm willing to bet the average person gets a LOTmore variation freehand sharpening than they think.
@@EdgePro Totally agree. I'll go so far as to say there is variation stroke-to-stroke, but good sharpeners still get good results. Thanks.
I agree with both of you; angle variation is probably such that freehand sharpened edges are often somewhat convex, which is not a bad thing anyways.
Of course, more experienced/skilled freehand sharpeners likely get higher flatness than beginners.
Nice video again Cody.
As for which theory is best... Honestly, before watching this very video I didn't know there were three ways to do it... my bad!
But now that I thought about it a little, I would say, for the highest precision using stones that dish, that setting the collar with the first/shaping stone AFTER developping the burr would be best since both the stone and the edge lost matetial during the edge shaping which may change the angle somewhat. Subsequent stones will wear much less as they will mostly refine the scratches only. Again, going for the highest precision possible...
Does it make sense?