Electricians Day Inspection and Testing of Electrical Installations
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 03. 2021
- Electricians Day Inspection and Testing of Electrical Installations.
Join Cory & Reuben as they do some inspection and testing, and Cory explains some interesting tips on doing an electrical installation condition report to inspect and test the electrical installation in a domestic property.
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I'm completing my 18th ed. What tester are you using to get your readings and where can I get one please?
Test-meter.co.uk is a good site. You can order one with a calibration cert as well.
He using the latest Metrel multifunction tester, I use the MI3100se which has been great and not as expensive as the megger and fluke.
When ever i had a rough day at work, I watch UK electricians and I instantly feel better.
thought you would have retired by now :p
Ooo kinky
I dont know if anyone feels this but I do really enjoy having my day wind down and grab a drink (tea, beer (other beverages are available)) and just catching up with Artisan and Bundy to name a few. Again great video, the 3.5mm tap is a lifesaver!
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totally agree and cant say enough thanks how you bring young lads on well done
Well done for pointing out that inspection precedes testing. I hope Reuben had a useful day - work experience is a useful tool to help young people to decide their future.
Check your OSG Cory, mains voltage ventilation equipment is allowed in zones 1 and 2 of a bathroom if it has the correct IP rating and RCD protected. It might not be to your liking but that doesn't make it's a non-compliance and you can't code something a C2 because you'd prefer it to be sited somewhere else.
Cory your humour is very enjoyable.đ Tell you one thing, Reuben won't be bored doing his work experience with you.đ I love watching you videos, they're enjoyable & informative you have a great work ethic. Keep up the good work.đđŒ
Thank you! Will do!
Another great vid, your trainee looked very interested đ€Ł btw you have a great on screen personality !
Iâm surprised the apprentice dint burst out laughing at any point with the amount of garbage Cory chats đ. Btw Cory itâs very entertaining garbage so keep it up, Love your videos. đŻ best spark personality on youtube
Totally agree on this. Great sense of humour and the straight face with which he delivers he comments is what makes it even more funny...
We love your humour boys. I learn so much about what the men in our house do at work! Keep it up xx
Thanks so much!
I'm pleased you had a more relaxing day, you need the lulls to cope with the peaks. Enjoyed the cookie wisdom.
This channel is much better since you joined. A good wry sense of humour and I liked the way you ranked in preference of test meters. Some electrical channels are spoilt when they become extended advertisements.
Joke: Cory you ever thought of being an Elvis impersonator ?
Well, it's one for the money,
Two for the show,
Three to get ready,
Now go, cat, go.
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I have an issue with the massive clock above the toilet, why do you need to know the time when going for a piss?
I would have a clock opposite the bog so i can see how long i have been sat on the bog.
My thoughts exactly on the Metrel thanks for giving me a heads up as I am in need of a new one soon, my megger 1730 has served me well.
Glad to help
Cory's knowledge continues to amaze me! KFC, Subway cookie, part-vegan Zen master..., Oh, and a damn fine sparky. Hi Rueben!
Ah thanks Jim and we appreciate you joining the Artisan Movement as a Member of the channel!
From my understanding the grey is used as neutral to rule out any confusion between old and new colours within that cable.
I have a task for Ruben.
My power RCD trips every night at 1.12am. Other circuits are fine. Started 10 days ago after a mains isolation switch was fitted. RCD 30 years old. 300w base load overnight. Economy 7 heating on own circuit. Iâm stumped!
To be more positive.....I like Coreyâs attitude to work. Lots of potential
Hi Cory, I went over to the dark side and asked a plumber about the thermostat setting. Set it to 65C to prevent possible Legionnaires disease. It's a requirement.
what work trousers are u rocking Cory?
Howdy Reuben!
Subway's triple chocolate cookies are awesome :)
The best!
Good to see you down here in Sussex! Will be looking at a car charger in the next year or two I reckon...
I do r1/r2 and zs on the cooker socket plug,any reason I shouldnât?
Cooker will have the heaviest load on it. Best to check connections on it to ensure they are tight.
Please could you suggest me some information or video I want to do my test and inspection
Agree with re threaders being crucial in the tool box another hack is to bend the lugs back and drill a plug in either side of the back box and put some long 3.5 screws in.
That is exactly what CJR did in his last video, as you say it is a good hack/tip.
3mm drill bit and tap with re threader
Great Job! Thumb up! Cheer!
Many thanks!!
â@@artisanelectrics Most Welcome! Cheer!
Great video Corey, the metrel looks great until you see the chunky connector and mass of leads. Have you used one of the TIS MFT Pro meters, absolutely brilliant, I prefer it to the Megger 1730 now. Saves all results to the meter, and can export them as a pdf on a PC which is handy.
The Gossen intro has about the same formfactor and is also easy programmable. I use the 1654B from Fluke and am pretty happy with it. I think its easy to use for the first inspection of the installation. We tried a Metrel but didnt want it, mainly because of the 'crappy 'rapports that come out of the software.
Almost sure I seen you up near me in Newcastle not to long ago... Long way from home!
Oh cool!
Sod the decorators. You have a good presence on TV. And good explanation
In a house full of dimmers, howd you do continuity and zs testing and get realistic feadings
Just do R2 testing and then Zs at the furthest point, normally if you have the dimmer cranked up to full itâs not gonna affect the reading much
@@artisanelectrics makes sense.
Interesting. Under no circumstances do I work in socks/bare feet. I.explain the safety aspects to clients and they all agree. Your thoughts
I agree, Cory is naughty working barefoot I have given him a slap on the wrist
Do what you do Cory no need to worry about keyboard warriors. The content is great for younger apprentices. Very well explained love the detailed explanations. Most of the keyboard warriors have no clue about electromagnetic theory.
Like cory alot great lad
Torture...I can't find decent cookies here in Portugal!!!! Great video Cory keep them coming. Only one minor winge, surely it's cross threaded, threaded is the normal state? Agree with you on M3.5 being a life saver tool.
Thanks for watching!
Time did tell!
Two young legend
Hi Cory thanks for sharing your video with me and I would like to see a lot of your videos please
More to come!
@@artisanelectrics cheers Cory
The megga is the one I use find it the easiest. Plus I find the leads last longer
I totally agree with you that the fan isolator needs relocation as I would assume that it has an IP rating of less than IPX4 and is looks to be located within zone 1. As for the fan, if it is IPX4 or greater, then technically it can be installed in zone 1. However, if the fan was to be subject to water jets, such as for cleaning purposes, it must have a minimum IP rating of IPX5. Taking all the above into consideration, it might be worth noting that the vast majority of electric showers only have an IP rating of IPX4. Go figure?!
I spoke with the NICEIC about the term "water jets" they said it applied to things like jet washers and power jets, not sprays from shower heads.
Tell kc that
Disagree on the fan if rcd protected which it has to be being in a bathroom anyway. isolator I agree with
Colours - using grey as neutral and black as earth AFAIK promoted by NIC etc in attempt to disassociate colour black with neutral. As long as both ends of a cable are properly marked up it doesn't matter really - we still need to concentrate whilst terminating and test it before going live. Unless you're an industrial spark or doing two way switching, 3 core SWA is much more often needed in Br/Bl/G&Y
Bathroom fan - I know I've only twice put the isolator in the bathroom, both instances inside a boiler cupboard which already had a switched FCU. On site guide Pg 94 says fixed, permanently connected ventilation equipment permitted in zone 1 if IPX4 (IPX5 with jets). If fan was IPX4 I wouldn't code that but if the isolator is below 2.25m from the floor then i'd C2 it for being in zone 1. If the isolator is more than 2.25m from the floor then above the bath is a really stupid place to put it. Normally pretty easy to put an isolator above the bathroom door on the landing
Cookies - guilty secret time- is it just me who likes to give supermarket bakery cookies a little press to check they're soft prior to purchase? As long as one uses the flat of the thumb rather than digging nails in I think it's borderline acceptable (if they're hard nobody's gonna buy them anyway, right?)
Having used Metrel and Fluke I agree about battery life and having the extra wires hanging around. The probe-with-button from Metrel is gigantic in comparison, I know it had a PP3 battery in it though
It's also partly as in old colours the tradition was to use yellow (L2) as CPC and blue (L3) as neutral as they were a natural match, thus when you map that across you get black becoming CPC and grey neutral. It means if you're eg extending an original piece of cable you avoid ending up with having to use yellow as neutral at one end which would likely confuse everyone...
sleeved blue on grey for neutral for me as we've deneutralzing the black since 2004 and its good practice
I personally don't like it- when you have a mixed age installation, having some black neutrals, and other black as earth is a recipe for disaster (throw in the US practice of black for active/line and it becomes a free for all- hell why not use green for active as well... can't see anything ever going wrong with that...
(it's bad enough with the blue active/blue neutral when mixing three phase and single phase wiring in the one unit)
At this point- there are so many competing standards- I really don't know why they even bother having a 'standard' at all...
Like the old joke...
"There are 12 standards, we need to make a single standard for all"
"There are 13 standards..."
Great video as always, 45° seems a bit cool to me?
I agree, Subway cookies are the best đ
iâve got that tester take probe off neutral lead and plug it into back of earth lead cory
How many hours did u take to complete EICR
4 hours normally
Never mind all this R1 and R2 would it not be a lot more fun if we changed the terminology to R2 D2?
I think you meant Sunny Suffolk. Looks like your over my neck of the woods Haverhill
Yeah his GPS was a bit off track LOL
Who puts a PV inverter in the airing cupboard??
Get Cory on the TV now! :-)
The swa cable in the garage, why are the colours in the cable always brown black grey? I always see people using that in your videos, Why not just get a 3x6 swa with brown blue and earth in it instead of taping it?? I use it nearly everyday working in ireland
They donât sell that cable here Iâm afraid
@@artisanelectrics yes they do đ
Love to know which wholesaler keeps that in stock please
It's probably assumed swa will be used on three phase supplies where browm black grey are the three phase colours in the UK.
@@je8277 anytime I'm wiring up 3 phase supplies I always get the 3 phase colours with neutral and earth aswell.. just think its odd you can't just get single phase colours in a swa in the uk
keep it up cory you`ll make good sparkie cry one day cry
Always informal and throughly enjoy your videos, but I wouldnât be signing off any work that my company doesnât do personally whether the customer is handy or not.
Didn't he say he'd inspect and test first? Not so different from checking what an (unqualified) apprentice has done.
Hey Cory. Give up the electrics and become a full-time comedianđ€Łđ€Ł
That haverhill I spot ?
Let's hope Rubin stays and be an electrian a job for life.
Question/opinion from the first minute.
"Start on the left". It's the obvious place to start. Why do so many DBs count up from the right?!
Nobody seems to know, but it's not a new thing and across the brands there's a mix, see comments here czcams.com/video/zdb7_HexVME/video.html&lc=UgzU2dlzfZ_O6UF4v6Z4AaABAg
Connections like that in a lot of new builds are often within a metal framed ceiling, then Iâd be giving them a C2
Most other cases Iâd C3
If the ceiling doesnât have a reference to the actual Earth, then no code required. There is no fault path.
@@LeedsSpark thatâs where the issue is tho, live conductor touching that ceiling grid frame
Nice job đ
Thanks đ
If the fan is IPX4, You can't fail it. If I was replacing it then i would replace it with a 12v fan with transformer and isolator beyond zone 2
I agree. IPX4 is acceptable in the zone. No worse than an electric shower.
This video has more adverts then a episode of 90 day fiancé
Awesome video again, great content ! Watching from Myrtle Beach SC USA !! Asking for a friend, is Reuban a sandwich ?
Looks like snack to međ
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2:49 I thought for a moment you were going to stick it elsewhere đđđ
24:03 your new apprentice has made an appearance. Do you pay him by the biscuit? đđđ
I'm at the bathroom bit. The fan is likely to be IP4X which is allowed in zone 2 so in my opinion the fan would be no code but the isolator if in zone I would c2
Do you mean IPX4?
Oh man.....Itâs you Marcus. Sorry mate lol! Iâm not trying to start another epic convo! đ
Iâm sure you know the difference and itâs just a typo đđ»
And that fan is in zone 1 by the way. So IPX5 is the rating it needs to be. Just for future reference mate
Ipx4 in zone 1
@@newlinerealboi3434 No mate. IPX5. Trust me.....Iâm an actual electrician. One of those real ones.
( not a dig at you )
Ditch the matrel and get a ROBIN KTS1620 MFT
Every sparks should have a 3.5mm tap along with various pattress screws , I've also got a 4mm with 4 mm pattress screw if those bu**ered lugs
Nice yeah I agree
Cory. Love watching your work. Mask tip, pinch it up on the bridge of your nose, and I guarantee you won't need to keep pulling it up.
dare i comment at 11:50.... tap tap tap on the side normally releases
Colour change was to deneutralise black, so why would you identify black as neutral
Ipx4 above the bath /shower. Doesnât need to be selv
IPX5 to be more accurate
@@Spark101. No ipx4 can go in zone 1. Check your regs book.
@@robertwilliams7222 Hand held - Directional shower head. IPX5. Check your regs
@@Spark101. Not a water jet. Being a âreal electricianâ youâll have all the books. Page 94 of the on site guide and page 76 of the Electricians guide to the building regulations.
@@robertwilliams7222 lol
For cory and Jordan. Lancashire dialect poems. Just try to understand them.
GN 3, section 3.8, seems to suggest that sampling is not applicable to domestics because they are simple installations.
We shouldn't be determining Zs via live working with the covers off at e.g. lighting points or cooker outlets, because it's unnecessary live working; see e.g.:professional-electrician.com/technical/determining-zs-for-a-lighting-circuit/ - although, yes, determining Ze is live working but with that we have no choice.
240v for fans in bathroom zones 1 and 2 is perfectly acceptable, so no need to fail it just for that. Also, fans can be IPX4, or IPX5 if subject to water jets - see e.g. GN 7. It also seemed you got the zones and heights muddled, and didn't account for the flexible rose height; see section 701.
Black or grey can be used as the neutral. When the colours changed from r,y,b to br, blk, gy, there was a move to de-neutral the black, so make the grey neutral, but there's nothing in the regs, OSG or GN's that states it has to be one or the other.
RYB became Brown-Black-Grey... and there's actually no rule against using black as N on 3core SWA... the NICEIC (bless their cotton socks) tried to push people away from associating black with neutral. But... if you're competent, you simply sleeve or tape the cable the same at each end, and robert's your mother's brother.
230V fan in Zone 1 is fine ventilation equipment is allowed page 94 OSG âĄaslong as it meets IPX4 electric showers are 230v in Zone 1
Exactly. No idea from where he's getting it has to be 12v. He's also missed that the height of zone 1 is either 2.25m above ffl or the height of a fixed shower head, whichever is greater. So given it's a flexible shower rose/pipe, that will set the height in that location.
@@johnhoward2104 yeah if someone is directly spraying a fan with the shower head you can't mitigate against that đ
@@mintsauce563 Well if it's considered water jets, use an IPX5 as required.
Why are you doing R1+R2 on an EICR ?
To calculate the zs so you are not working live.
Heâs using his ultimate ability
Why would you not??
Corey, is your tongue glad when your asleep at night oh my days
Why does every apprentice,work experience student these days, look about 12yo????đđ
cos you're old đ
Who's cutting Cory's hair?
I'm a scker to.
No need a wonder lead on auto electrics, power Probe is the way to go.
Why would you have a clock in a bathroom? đ
Bloodyeck ;ad...23.63 for a 3.5mm re-threading tool...have you never heard of a CK one at 6.13 ? and get yerself a 4mm one at the same time and have around 12 squids left !!!
Leading him to the light don't do that don't zap him. Don't go to the light but you are lucky if you do see the light.
How did you spend your Works Experience holding a Camera He will be telling his friends
Megger and Kewtech are the same, with megger taking the slightest of lead, let's say fluke is only good for meters etc, as USA ( sparks) don't do T & I so there is a snober attitude, like their attitude of using imperial, like their life depends on it,
I agree Megger are great I used to use one all the time, I donât like the kewtech MFT itâs very slow and magnets on the bottom always pick up swarf.
@@artisanelectrics the first ones that I remember that the switch was sequential, in line with the testing,
invest in a step ladder
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Rubin Mmm, another one who looks like he doesnât want to be there đ
Give the lad a chance,what do you expect him to do,play the trombone and whistle Dixie at the same time
At that age we all looked vacant and clueless including you no doubt,
@@nw5835 OOOooooo
Agree Metrel are crap, had flukes since i started and never lets me down
That fan is a dangerous thing to have that close to a source of water and the human body, talk about a bad day if you touch it wet and it was wet.
It's fine if circuit rcd protected
@@marcusstonham no different to having a mains voltage shower in zone 2.
Even worse touching the switch and I have come across many a faulty rcd
@@tww5719 yes the switch is unsuitable for location even if itâs outside of zones but if the fan is zone 2 suitable and rcd protected I donât see a problem with it. Itâs just oddly positioned imho.
Your right to fail the fan đŻ % i dont think isolatior should be there either
Het Cory, If you insist on saying somethings in a Northern accent at least get the Dialect right.
For instance, In lancashire the old dialect is something like this. "Hey up Lass, Thas nort but skin and bone,
Tha needs fed up." Translation ( hey girl bloody hell your skinny and could do with a meal ).
Another one. "Its Gradely fer ta sithie sit tha darn." Translation ( hey we didn't expect you visiting, come in and sit down ).
Variouse other dialects can be found all over the north. Just saying incase you find yourself in the North of Lancashire
you might want to take English lessons.
Work experience? Covid Mask wearing training fir you both when together and not just in a properly.
Yes. Not just in a properly đ
Didnt fancy taking the ZS for the cooker in the right place then lol!
But more to the point....with the fan.....âat that sort of height itâs in zone 2 territory!â Really!??
And âpersonally you take issueâ ? You realise your personal opinion doesnât come into it mate?
And.....Itâs IPX5 in zone 1, and 230 volts is fine. Another prime service. â Come on Jordan.........ffs! Lol! I keep watching and waiting for the cream of the cropâ
To be fair.....I think youâll actually know this stuff!
@Plant Mad OK......fair point. And yea, one day some of these younger lads may over take me. Or maybe not! Who knows. Good luck to them all.
@Plant Mad And by the way.....I did say Corey had potential. And for the record, Jordan is obviously a good electrician, and Iâve said this many times. Iâm just quite harsh I suppose with my comments. Maybe I should tone it down if it offends people.
@Plant Mad And that is a very good point actually.
Iâm not actually a horrible person.....and I certainly donât want to upset anyone. Looking at it though; I havenât come across the best, and some of my comments do seem very negative. Not just on this thread, but others.
Thereâs defiantly a better way to interact with the videos, even if I do disagree with some of the content.
Iâll be more positive, because life is too short. Apologies to Jordan and Corey. No offence intended. đ
Thanks I appreciate that
@@artisanelectrics đ
And.....another ring continuity at a socket......I thought we covered this Jordan? Lol
Shall I just stop commenting? Youâd probably love that đ€Ł
Basic insulation external to an enclosure: C2
Live connections not made within an enclosure: C2
Corey: Iâm not too bothered about that type of connection! đ€Š
Corey needs to shadow a good few EICRâs with someone who knows what their doing. Heâs 3/4 of the way there.....just needs to get a little more experience.
To much talking just get on with the job .and your jokes are not funny. Other than that not a bad video.
Leave the YouTubing to the pros
@@ericshawn1998 know need to be nasty . I want to see the man at work not Liston to him talking crap and making bad jokes ,as I said not a bad video
Guy talks waffle đ