Ford Expedition vs Lexus LX: I Take Two Big SUVs Off-Road and Pick a Winner
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Great video . This was a hard test for me I love Ford and Toyota.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Expedition 100%
The Toyota will outlive 2 iof those fords
Lauchlan Still We have a 2004 Expedition with 260k miles on it and still running strong.
Humberto Gonzalez I have read that the first Generation Expeditions last as long as the Toyota Sequoias!
Hope yours keeps running strong.
I like both the first Gen Sequoia and the Expeditions.
I think the Sequioa vs the Expedition would be a more realistic comparison...
Yeah I was thinking the same but still the Ford did better than I thought it would.
or navigator instead, I have a 2003 navigator and 2004 lexus gx470.. the verdict goes to long term reliability.. after 15 yrs the lincoln is completely trash while the lexus is still pristine..
Arthur Esclamada Oh, from that era, I’m not surprised. 03-06 Navigator used the cheapest leather, cheapest plastic and had garbage electronics. The 2007 to present Navigators are FAR better and their poor resale value makes it easy to get into a very good , pre-owned, large Luxury SUV for a steal of a deal like Alley McBeal clubbing a seal with an orange peel Happy Meal on the Wonder Wheel!
@Jonathan Losito wait why???
@Jonathan Losito What a poor decision. They will regret this soon
Imagine if they made an Expedition Raptor. That'll be sick. Have the offroad set up from a rapto
and a v8 engine and a short version
Just think how quickly all the suburbanite mothers could get to Starbucks after dropping the kids off at soccer practice.
That would be very cool!.. Ford does have the Bronco coming though!
Perhaps that is what the future Excursion (That Ford just trademarked again) will be. That name so fits with an overlander.
The Expedition Platinum is turned very similar to the Raptor. Quite a bit more power than the Limited.
I had the opportunity to drive an Expedition for a few weeks. I had expectations of a big, heavy, boring vehicle, but it was quite the contrary. I truly enjoyed it very much. Lots of power, very quiet, smooth ride and very comfortable seats. The independent rear suspension made the ride much better than an F-150. They can haul lots of cargo, lots of people and can tow heavy loads. Combine that with the shorter version that made it easy to park and maneuver and it was a very impressive vehicle. They don't get the credit they deserve for being so capable. The attention always goes to the pickup trucks.
Agree, and GM. Why is everyone buying Yukons and Tahoe's?
@@paulbram2 seriously. I know people that have had Escalades and say the expedition rides much better
@@paulbram2 This is coming from a 50 year of experience with SHITY GM cars. If you want to live the rest of your life headache and trouble free , steer a way from any American/European cars at all! Stick with Toyota/Lexus and you will live happily forever. Yes, they usually cost a bit more than American cars when new, but they will outlast any of them and most likely your grandchildren will inherit them.
I had an expedition as a rental when my pickup was getting body work done a few months ago. Didn't like it. Steering was twitchy. You had to hold on tight because if you lets go or let your grip loose it would snap back to the center real quick when turning or changing lanes. Felt like it was spring loaded. Took some practice to make smooth turns and lane changes. The transmission hunted gears also, and it always shocked the hell out of me everytime I got out. The worst part was when I went to pass a slow car on a 2 lane road. I hit the gas, there was a bang followed by clicking/grinding and a bunch of warning messages on the dash. Looked like a Christmas tree. Aside from being a little quicker, our sequoia drove better and never had any of the quirks and errors the expedition had. Not to mention the 3rd row seats in the expedition wouldnt fold unless the 2nd row was upright. Even if they were slightly reclined they didn't work. Also dodnt have this problem with the sequoia. In town the fuel economy was about the same, but on the hwy the expedition averaged about 2mpg better than our sequoia, but that was negligible for the peace of mind and better steering in the sequoia. I had actually considered looking at an expedition but that rental changed that.
@@benwilliams9172 The expedition does ride better because it has fully independent suspension vs solid axle in the escalade.
LX570 doesn't have KDSS - It is a hydraulic suspension that you can raise with a flick of switch.
Yes people confuse it with Land Cruiser suspension. Amazing how these guys do all these videos and still get shit like this wrong.
this is cause they really don't know about vehicles. they are just presenters. i realized this a while ago when he didn't even know what a control arm looked like.
Shaun R 🤝
yes it does, since 2007
@@jasonhansen6632 unfortunately that's incorrect. LX570 has low pressure hydraulic system called Automatic Height Control (AHC). The Land Cruiser has conventional suspension with kdss
I learned that both of these SUV's can drive... on a dirt road
[Edit] - TFL - you guys are awesome so don't let my snarky comment get you down! That's just my way of asking for more comparisons with these vehicles (the expedition in particular,) but stepped to a level 3 difficulty ;)
Dear Ford, please allow some of your younger, more "think outside the box" employees on the design team.
please also make a very basic one that I can afford. I can live without all the tech quirks.
Guys, awesome content as always. You’re spitting out videos like crazy during these strange times we’re in. Thanks for sharing.
I own a 2017 expedition and a 2015 lx570. The lx570 is smaller and more capable off-road. The expedition is 2 years newer and at 80k miles is a rattletrap. The lx570 is vault silent. The 3.5 is a great power train. 2 great trucks, but if I had to drive one to Alaska, it’s the lx.
Chris R the 2017 expedition was before the redesign and was like a 15 year old design at that point, I have heard the new ones are built much better.
@@mabbook I've driven the newer ones. They are not built better.
Great video Andre (& staff). It's very impressive that even through the COVID-19 pandemic, TFL continues to put out a steady stream of videos. Your audience is truly grateful, informed & entertained.
Thanks for the kind words!
2018 Expedition Limited 3in lift on 35x12.5 Toyo tires and 20” method race wheels. Custom fender flares. Best truck I’ve ever owned. Overlanding is incredible in this vehicle.
I wanna see that ride
Adam Huskins you should make a review and send it to them. Would love to see it
We have an expedition and it’s really good off-road and we live in Saudi Arabia so we have dunes and it’s really good
that ford expediton is a beauty..
Lexus all day 🤷🏽♂️reliable + capable=👌🏽👌🏽
@Jonathan Losito hahahaha who needs its all about who cares about touch or type I think only lazy guy like u want that apple touch screen and all shit carry on with that boring ford
Jonathan Losito buying a car based on its infotainment system is about as stupid as buying a home based on the appliances that comes along with it.
@@huythai1222 couldn't agree more mate 👍
@@abbas8122 lol toyota lexus what's fun about driving those boring underpowered car's
It should be Lincoln Navigator vs Lexus. Ford should be compared to Toyota.
10 inches of length difference will do the trick in trying to lay down in the back with seats folded down.
Fun video. But anyone who knows SUVs knows that Toyota products are amongst the best off road. Even with AT tires. If you need more space in a Toyota get a Sequoia.
FYI - No KDSS on LX 570, great video tho! Love your videos, guys. we need more nathan!
Love it! It's nearly a redemption video for the Expedition for the last one what the broken rear ELSD. Now, if you have time, and no snow, you should take it up to the same spot...
The Expedition is surprisingly good. I test drove one on a whim and was super impressed. I got a new Navigator because I'm fancy tho.
"I got a new Navigator because I'm fancy tho" haha that's exactly what I'd do, and say LOL
Nice flex 😬
I'm glad to see y'all review full-sized SUVs... finally. This is one segment that y'all ignore too much.
They've tested just about every full size SUV that last few years and had a Land Cruiser project vehicle (if you think a LX/LC is a full size SUV).
This is a really difficult time to be creating content in your own and you've done a great job.
"Best possible mode"? Dammit my truck doesn't have that mode!!!!
I have to say that I remember when Tommy did a review of the Ford Expedition and did the roller test. The Expedition did amazing. So it isn’t a surprise that it did great in this test. I believe the Ford 4x4 system is great because of them purchasing Land Rover years ago possibly. The Lexus is nice but I wouldn’t have purchased that vehicle.
Based on diagonal and roller tests I've seen that Jeep and Ford tend to perform the best
Why would Ford need to borrow anything from Land Rover when they have been making off-road vehicles since WW2?
They made Jeeps for the US Government in WW2 along with Willys
And aside from that they produced the Bronco for decades and are currently selling a new Bronco along with the F150 Raptor
Land Rover 🤣
@@joecool9739 the 4wd system on the Land Rover is a better system than Ford had. That is only one of the reasons why Ford purchased Land Rover. Just because they made 4wd vehicle doesn’t mean there isn’t better. The system on the Land Rover is possibly the best, but reliability for the rest of the vehicle is crap. But Ford does have its own issues with recalls and fit and finish now. Ford did make a Bronco II, and used a twin ibeam system at one time. Useless is what they were.
Good to see you guys are taking bigger SUVs offroading. There are so many CUVs and other small AWD vehicles stealing the show.
If I had the money, I’d go for the Lexus. With a mix of overland/regular driving the Lexus would give at least 200,000 miles of service. Still a little skeptical that the Ford’s EcoBoost would tolerate that kind of abuse over the same mileage.
That first test for the Lexus was one of the most anticlimactic things I have seen on youtube in a while. It was like "for my first test, I'm going to pull out of the driveway".
I have had a 2020 Expedition Max Limited rental from Enterprise for a couple months now, and will have it at least another month. I have put on 6,000 miles so far, interstate, two lane state highway, lots of curvy roads through Virginia and West Virginia and a couple times in a wilderness area that had 10 degree includes on muddy, rutted roads. This has been a real treat and has handled it all with aplomb. I have been getting 19.5 MPG, except when in the wilderness area. This vehicle has gobs of power, not just for it's size. The only issue I have had was on a steep incline and switchback, it hesitated a second to figure out what great to go in, but recovered very quick.
15:50 I had to put on my sunglasses from Andre's ultra white belly lmao Nice video guys!
dude i really didnt need to know that
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Please make a video...Lincoln navigator black label vs Lexus lx 570
I just bought my 2019 Ford Expedition 3 months ago. It is a Limited trim with the 302A package. So I do have 22" wheels which look awesome but I am definitely not taking it offroad yet. I do have dreams of making this truck an Overland vehicle (and quite possible an Off-road trailer from Off-Grid trailers called the Expedition 2.0 :) ). I am keeping it stock for the next 5 years and then maybe "ruggedize" it a bit after that. I just do not want to void any warranties at this moment.
I don't have the newest version of the expedition. But i was able to fit 275/70 R18 (33.1 inch) all terrains on my 2017 xlt with no clearance issues whatsoever. The difference is night and day.
Love that new TFLStudios logo!
Wait you mean suv don't come standard with the Separate glass tailgate, the dad has a 2008 Ford explorer with that and it's a xlt Trim so not even a midrange trim.
Hate to correct you sir, but the 5.7 in the Lexus is not the same engine as in the Tundra.
Looking forward to your comparison between the Expy and the new Tahoe/Yukon.
My 96 land cruiser was an amazing vehicle, it could handle any washed out roads in northern Maine, I always will regret selling it!
Those are tanks!
This is awesome. I have loved the LX570 more and more.
I am confused: is the Ford equipped with a rear LSD or diff-lock? At 04:23 you show a 'locker switch, but keep referring to a LSD...
@TFL I am a big fan but I believe this is a mismatch. It should have been the Navigator(which DOES share the platform) vs the LX
Andre, This was a good test. Now we need a 10 year repair bill cost comparison.
And retained value...
Don't act like that test is already decided, my friend has a 10 year old Lexus landcruiser and he's already put over $10,000 in repairs into it. Mostly because of the complex braking/traction system and the air suspension.
Very True!!
Both are going to be much more expensive, almost everything made since 2010 is junk. Meanwhile my 2006 Silverado with 180K miles has had less than $2000 in repairs over its entire lifespan.
@@Wade-lk4yo ya have you ever price a starter replacement on that Lexus? It's twice as expensive as a Ford Turbo replacement.
I have both a 17 f150 and 18 expedition. I researched these two so much I don't think I'll ever change
I personally like the 4Runner the way the backseats fold down conventionally. Doesn’t have the backseats in the way on the side and it’s just an huge empty space since the seats go into the base like the expedition. Much better than the seats just folding to the side.
I have a 2014 Expedition that I am using for over landing. One of the reasons that I chose it over a Lexus is the legroom in the 3rd row seating area. The jump seats in the Lexus are fine for children, but the 3rd row in our Expedition are MUCH better for our teenagers. When the kiddos are permanently out of the house and we are empty nesters, I'll re-look the Lexus, but right now, the Expedition was a very easy choice to make.
i love the size, the look and the "engine GRUNT" of the expedition
My neighbor took his brand new 2020 Lexus LX off roading with me last Saturday. I have a 98 Toyota Tacoma with a 4 inch lift, 32 inch BF Goodrich mud terrains and a rear locker.
I took him on some trails that I consider slightly technical. He did over $13,000 worth or damage to his rig the first hour.
My Toy is full of dents and scratches, but I have more fun in my $4K rig off road than he has in his. He's never going back to those trails in that thing.....
Ford does have center locking diff. It's the 4x4 button. That locks the transfer case to split power. The Toyota has a center diff lock button because it's constant full time AWD. It needs that button while putting the Ford in 4 wheel drive from 2wd does this
I have a 2011 Ford expedition XL i’ve also found it to do very well off-road where smaller cars like a Subaru Forrester will spin out and Lose traction the expedition just keeps on going. Also when it comes time for pulling heavy loads such as a vehicle or someone out of the ditch my expedition Shines where a truck cannot get the traction to do it. I love the expedition it’s one of my favorite vehicles and I’m definitely saving for a newer model
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 10 YEAR UPDATE
Well if your thinking durability we just sold a 1998 Explorer 100% original 250,000 miles daily driver nothing but fluids and tires. My 93 Landcruiser needed lots of expensive stuff done at 150,000 or it was done. My brothers 98 LC has had lots of expensive repairs exhaust headers etc also. Funny enough both of us now drive new Ford trucks. 20 yrs of Toyotas for me and honestly there’s nothing Toyota has today I’d bother owning.
@@U20E27 My dad had an Explorer from the same era that went to the junk yard at 120k miles and he replaced it with a 4Runner that's never been in the shop for 150k miles through dirt and snow. Ain't anecdotal evidence grand? The Land Cruiser is the longest lasting vehicle ever made by a country mile and that's backed by statistical evidence. Check the TFL video on longest lasting vehicles if you don't believe me.
@@mechmat12345 Toyota is Weak ..IFS Suspension is Very Weak...Way too big for trail running and it's has No Ground Clearance...Gayota!!!
Ford’s f series trucks are super reliable but I don’t like high stressed eco techs. Lexus’s reliability is unquestionable
2010 LX570 used with 120k miles - $30k, 2010 Ford Expedition with 120k miles King Ranch - $7500. That should tell most of the story.
I still don't know why Toyota dealerships have repair shops.
save 2,256 gallons of fuel ( around $5,000 ) and $30,000 less, ( plus interest, financing ) Ford Expedition win
It sure would be nice to see a 3" lift and some real tires on the Ford! Great test.
I have an older expedition (2008 limited 4x4) and that thing does amazing off-road , Very underrated vehicle !
Jonathan Losito I have had my expedition for 5 years and the interior looks great and mind you I have 3 boys all under the age of 10 . It has held up real well surprisingly , I used to buy nothing but GM and Toyota and this was my first Ford , very happy with it and not going to be getting rid of it anytime soon .
I second Angry Chili Mango. I have a 2007 EL lifted with 34" AT's and it's an amazing sleeper as in it will go almost anywhere and you can hardly tell that its been modified. You really have no idea that its lifted with big tires by looking at it unless its parked next to a jeep and then you say, huh I didn't realize Expy's could have ground clearance. Still drives great on the highway, far and away the best ride of any 4x4 overlander that I've ever been in. Stock traction control electronically locks up both the front and rear diffs. And I love the thought that goes into jenga packing overland gear into tiny spaces like a 4Runner, but for day to day adventuring I don't know how you go any smaller than a full size SUV. Its still shorter than a 4door truck, but without the bed/cab separation so you get more max capacity, better security for long term storage, can legitimately do extended overlands with 4 grown adults, don't have crap hanging off every exterior surface, and during the week you can haul 7 people with all the beach/sports gear you want. The only problem is that its so damn perfect than when it dies I just know that I'm going to spend way more money than I want to to build another one. Although when I hear numbers for other overland builds I don't really feel that bad. How did it become normal to spend 70K on a freakin car?
Jason Azuma Very well said , I too feel like there’s no other SUV like the expy , amazing in every way . I was wondering what lift do you have ? And also has it affected the ride quality ? I also have the locking front and rear and it’s freaking amazing , I took it off-roading once and made it pretty far back into the desert and I had doubters and naysayers pretty quiet and impressed with how well it did .
I used the ReadyLift 3/2 and upgraded to Bilstein B6 4600 shocks. It doesn’t feel at all top heavy and not sure if it’s more shocks, geometry, or tires but I feel like it’s a significantly smoother and tighter ride on road. Off road I have to air down if I don’t want to get beat to death, but the ground clearance is an incredible 12.5”. And yeah I’ve run it all around Death Valley, Mohave, Big Bear and people are always shaking their heads in disbelief. The fully independent suspension with massive anti sway bars does not allow for much articulation so thank goodness for those locking diffs! Also the fact that even the EL version has a shorter wheelbase than the Gladiator...what?!
Thank you
Great Video
From Germany 👍👍
As always, awesome video! LX/LC is a beast off road and very reliable.
What does it offer for people who want to lease a car though. Nothing ?
@@Natethegreat200c shouldnt be leasing anyways, at least if you value your hard earned money. Besides lease deals on the Lexus make it only marginally more than the Ford.
Alan Bowers Lessing makes for a more pleasurable experience on your daily commutes. No one wants to keep buying cars every 10 years paying top dollar.
@@Natethegreat200c So you'd be happy shelling out $25-30k every 3 years just to have that? I'm not paying a dime currently and even if I bought new every 10 years, I'd be saving tons. No less pleasurable on the daily commute either.
Nathaniel Rudolph
That’s different for us we gladly put down 50k on a new LX570 and finance the rest for 0% APR
$84k?? $100k?!?!!?!?!?
What the hell is going on with prices???
Seriously, shoot anything over 50k for me is a BLUR@#$$@!#$!#$!@#$!@#$
They all are crazy
As with anything else, prices are going up!
You guys should do a Lincoln Navigator off-road comparison vs the Lexus 570.
What is the ORI rating for both vehicles?
The Lexus doesn't have KDSS, nor does KDSS lift or lower a vehicle. The lexus uses AHC/AVS and the Land Cruiser uses standard shocks and KDSS. The AHC/AVS on the Lexus pretty amazing for flex, ride height, comfort and reliability. As another note, the "locker" on the Ford is actually just a clutch based LSD that can clamp to lock, but it builds heat and can be overworked. Its a nice gesture from Ford for an differential they didn't have a locker for. Plus it gives you better on-road traction. Its certainly more than Toyota gives you.
comparing Ford Expedition vs Lexus LX is like comparing donkey with an Arabian horse
Worldwide quality LEXUS
The donkey wins!
That arabian horse is over priced
This is scam American people make reviews on American car ?
Guess what who is going to win
Francisco Herrera Francisco, drive a pink Volkswagen Jetta!
Enjoying the background music!
I have never seen a vehicle lift a wheel so fast. Maybe it doesn't translate well on video, but that initial hill climb doesn't look any worse than my driveway.
Love my 2015 Expedition EL w/ 3.73gears, torque for towing, don't have the limited slip but the most offroading it does is at campsites with a camper behind it. 18mpg highway, 10mpg towing 6000lbs.
Is it possible to put smaller wheels on the Lexus for more beefy tires?
Of course. Or just buy a Land Cruiser instead. 17" Tundra wheels are very popular on the LC and should fit the LX. Lots of people outfit the LX for off-roading/overlanding so there's lots of info out there if you're really interested.
How come the 5.7 liter V8 in the lexus comes with a 8 speed automatic transmission and not with the tundra?
Because Lexus is fancy :P They also tuned the engine for premium instead of regular so you can get like 3 extra horsepower.
America vs Japan... howd that go last time...
Hey TFL y’all should really try and get your hands on the current outgoing Chevrolet Tahoe Z71 Off-road edition to test out. It even comes in the Suburban as well! Although they are not common vehicles, I think many of your GM viewers and fans would really enjoy it!
Hey TFL could you please if not mind doing review test 2020 GLS vs 2020LX 570
Great video! I feel when you lift the Lexus all the way up it limits the amount of flex it can do? Maybe find a good middle ground on too high and too low
I own one you get far more articulation in high
Am I right in saying the tyre pressure of the Expedition @ 13:10 was a little lower than that of the LX570 @ 10:10?
Andre, will you not be presenting on the Fast Lane Car channel?
I'd take the Expedition all day long over the LX, for two simple reasons. Price and Wheels. I don't know why the manufactures continue to feel the need to ruin a highly capable off road vehicle with low profile wheels. It adds price to the vehicle, ruins the ride and performance for off road, and in my opinion just makes the truck ugly. Ford did it right with the wheel and tire combination with the FX4 package.
Lexus knows it’s customers and so does Ford. That’s why they have the wheels they have. If I buy a $90k LX and want to go off road, I can afford new wheels and tires. 99% of LX buyers aren’t going off pavement, hence the wheels.
Different classes of vehicles and customers between these 2. Not at all comparable beside being 4x4 SUVs
Can just add some Land Cruiser wheels for under $1k.
@@leenestle Or better yet, Tundra 18" wheels.
@@kurtf31r that would work. I’d go white LX with TRD pro wheels.
What’s the wheel base difference? That makes a huge difference in how it will handle and perform off road. Long wheelbase will have a harder time getting over ruts and humps. Even though, the expedition does very well.
Lexus is 112" Ford 122" wheelbase.
The Expedition's transfer case locks when placed in 4H or 4L no need to press a button
I’ve personally taken my LX on both of these “features”. The first test is essentially a hill out of a parking lot. The second feature is steeper and more washed out than it appears on video.
My LX had zero drama on either section. Go take that Expedition up to “Rocky Top” I know the LX can make it ;)
Also since you like that area to test go check out Gordon Gulch and Upham Loop.
You want to talk about luxury in a Expedition then you should have brought the Expedition Platinum or King ranch
On the second hill climb it seemed that you kept more speed/momentum with the Expedition.
It would be interesting to see how these vehicles would do with some more off-road oriented tires.
I imagine one way to get the price down on the Lexus, is to choose that unfortunate champagne color.
Or just buy one that's two years old since they haven't changed in forever. It will still outlast a brand new Ford.
mechmat12345 they dont depreciate much in two years
@@mechmat12345 outlast wow you know about future kid
Not going to by the Lexus because of the navigation mouse thingie. That's just horrible. I still think a TTV6 is the wrong engine for a 3 row suv, but I can't knock it too much since it works. Will I have to sell off my first-born to replace a busted headlight?
I enjoyed the video. Thanks for producing it. I think it is apples to oranges comparison. I think a better comparison would be a Toyota Sequoia to an expedition.
Agreed, or instead of Sequoia at least pair the Lexus against the Lincoln Navigator. That'd be a neat comparison too.
Before I even watch it, I’m curious how you thought to compare an Expedition to a Land Cruiser Prado lololololol
It’s not even a competition 😂
The GX is a prado where as the LX is just a standard LC
I have an lx570, i love everything about it. AHC suspension is super luxurious, plenty of torque for towing, wheelbase is great offroad, my only complaint is i wish it had a rear e locker like my 99 4runner. Having true locking diffs would make the LX the most capable and reliable offroader available
"When you are in a vechicle that cost one hundred thousand dollars, you must of a tailgate. I think that's just a rule." literally I LOLed to that one! Thanks Andre!
Would of been better to have 2 FULL SIZE SUVS. All these different settings to go up hills. What happened to just 4 WD?
The expedition will always be my favorite suv
Price versus capability. Expedition all day. Especially when it comes time to tow to your camping trip or fit all your belongings then go offroad.
Most Lexus owners usually don’t go off-roading, camping, or towing with their $85k+ Car 😂
Why do I know that? It’s because we own a LX 570 🤣
Well out of all fairness anybody that actually has to tow something generally knows better than to buy a Toyota in the first place.
@@ashes2ashes863 why do you say that?
Greg Kittle
Toyota isn’t really into trucks as much as The Big Three are. Toyota’s are usually in last place when it comes to towing capability. They don’t innovate as much in those areas because they don’t need to, people buy Toyota’s for their “reliability and dependability.”
@@francesco1998 or at the very least that's what they keep telling themselves when they buy one.
$100k and $71K for a vehicle? Are you kidding me? The common man making 50-70k cannot buy one of these. Car prices are out of control !
Good Morning My Good Friends Of The Fast Lane Trucks & Thank You My Good Friends Of The Fast Lane Trucks
Take the 2020 Explorer on the same or harder test please
Why haven’t you ever tested the Z/71 Tahoe?
Just bought a 2018 expedition max. Love it so far.
Main difference is the LX is still going to be running perfectly in 10-20 years, not to mention still worth something. Expedition will probably lose half its value in like 5 years, and have fun when its outa warranty
Not really, you would be amazed at the number of 20+ yr old expeditions still in daily use. Faster depreciation and more maintenance possibly, but the expeditions can last if you take care of them.
@@engineeringVirtue lol comparing what was 20 years to today does not apply when it comes to Ford or GM, it wont last 6 years.
@@engineeringVirtue those new EcoBoost engines arnt really designed to last 20 years without failures, they're cheap to produce and do make good numbers but after warranty is over I personally wouldn't own a ford twin turbo v6, thanks but no thanks. LX & Landcruisers are engineered to last 25 years with no major component failures, the only vehicles that do so. If it were my money I'd skip the extra fluff of the LX and get the 200 series
If you think any modern Toyota/Lexus will be running in 20 years you're delirious. Despite what the fanboys claim their reliability is nothing special anymore
Great video Andre. $30k less, 3.5 ecoboost, 5 Mpg more, much more space. No doubt it's the Expedition. Can use the money for better suspension and tyres and may even lockers amd still save money
Ya. Front Torsen differential out of the Raptor and a 2" lift with 34" tires would make the Expedition a real monster off road!
it would last over 300k miles though....
@@mchuo7834 they both will. I've seen a 3.5 eco F-150 with over 650,000 km's on it. It was a professional Hot Shot truck. Not an easy life either.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 yeah, but every part on the vehicle probably had to be replaced. Definitely not getting to 650 on stock turbo. And that's a big job to replace.
@@mchuo7834 they claimed it had nothing replaced. Stock engine and trans. Just wearable parts like brakes, filters, oil and plugs. It is cheaper to replace both turbo's on the Ford then it is to replace the starter on the Lexus.
Please do towing and drag race comparisons
Can you do an update with LX vs Suburban ?!
I doubt either of these will ever leave the pavement in the real world.
The expedition will leave the payment when it makes it's way to the junkyard
Maybe not in the first couple years, but there are a lot of LX 450s running around on trails so it follows that these will be before long.
@Luis Bolanos Mini van? What you talkin about?
@@daniels2761 You can't compare these to an LX450. An LX450 is way more capable off road than either of these. Solid front axle, locking diffs, not nearly as much electronic crap.
@@Ryno-fp7pm I get what you are saying, but it stands to reason that if LX's and Land Cruisers from years past have made it onto trails, these will too. People take Range Rovers off road for crying out loud.
One thing TFL left out in the video is which vehicle do you see lasting 20-25 years and you depend on to be reliable long term? Because if you’re going to spend all that money, it better last you minimum 20 years before you have to replace it even after rough usage.
Almost nobody keeps a new vehicle 20 years, especially people who buy $80k luxury vehicles.
As an expedition owner, 19mpg combined is hilariously off. More like 13 in the city, 20highway. 25 on the highway is possible if you go 55 and barely touch the throttle
Old Gregg+ You might have a heavy right foot. 😂
I have a 2016 Expedition EL and highway @65 it gets 21. City is more like 17-18.
Rhy Dynamic nope live in an area with a lot of stop and go. This thing destroys fuel (2019) about as badly as my 4Runner on 33s with full time 4wd. Way faster though :)
My Expy Max 4x4 with HD Tow and 3.73 gears has life time mpg of 19.5 though only 15K miles so far.
Looking forward to those two towing on the ike. Would also like to see them tow offroad. May be interesting. But in all reality who takes 70k dollar trucks off road?
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@@MaxManUtd factory or something you built. If you built it it doesn't count.
Why not compare sequoia to expedition, or Lexus to Lincoln?... I'm assuming it's what you have to work with
I've done crazier offroad with my lx with stock wheels and without using any of the Lx off road settings, this video is a joke!
I think the next should be Lexus LX vs BRONCO, can't wait!