The Enneagram Explained with Movie Characters | Enneagram in Film
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- The enneagram is a personality typing system made up of nine unique personality types. It can be a useful and profound tool for personal growth that helps build empathy and understanding for both ourselves and one another. Today, I explain the 9 enneagram personality types with movie characters.
0:00 Introduction
1:57 Disclaimers
3:08 The 9 Types
3:25 Type One - The Reformer
3:53 Type Two - The Helper
4:25 Type Three - The Achiever
4:59 Type Four - The Individualist
5:26 Type Five - The Investigator
6:00 Type Six - The Loyalist
6:38 Type Seven - The Enthusiast
7:11 Type Eight - The Challenger
7:36 Type Nine - The Peacekeeper
8:05 Wings
9:18 The Inner-Flow / Lines of Integration
9:55 The Three Centers
10:45 The 27 Subtypes
12:15 A few words on the Enneagram
13:31 How the Enneagram helped me
Personality Descriptions: cpenneagram.com/the-nine-enne...
Enneagram Test: cpenneagram.com/enneagram-test
27 Subtypes Descriptions: cpenneagram.com/subtypes
Instagram: josh_keefe... - Krátké a kreslené filmy
It's so weird being in front of the camera this time. Hope you enjoyed it though! What characters would you like to see in the series? The enneagram was extremely beneficial for my mental health last year and it's something I've been deeply passionate about ever since. After spending almost an entire year researching the enneagram and watching countless character driven movies in preparation of doing a 10 part video series where I explore how characters in film portray each of the 9 types in depth, it's so good to finally share it all with you ❤❤❤
I cannot believe you said that after years of research. If you truly had researched it, you would have know how it was created, based on lies, and where it's coming from. The meaning of it, which is very dangerous and demonic. Please be careful.
@@plaindonut7145 demonic? o.0
Where is the video abou the Christian Music?
Looking good! Happy to see your content pop up in my feed
It was cool seeing you in front of the camera. You did an amazing job. Also you have great hair! :D
_“Enneagram doesn’t put you in a box. It instead shows you the box you put yourself in and the way out.”_ - Josh Keefe
Ian Cron not Josh Keefe
Yes:)
He didn't creat that quote. It's from a book called "the wisdom of enneagram"
I loved that!
Well he didn't say how to get out. He said you can move to an other one or become a healthy version.. So how would you get out of the eneagram? 🤔
Well, boys, I have found my newest hyper fixation
ADHD squad
@@lolakeynes6839 Same here
Omg SAME I changed my entire grad project just to do this now
You must be a 5? hahaha 😆
Lol I was thinking the same thing😂💀
mbti isn't about the letters though, it's about cognitive functions. while the enneagram is concerned with motivations, mbti is more concerned with how people process information, so to speak. 16personalities does it no justice.
Yeah people need to know mbti is based on eight cognitive functions. And the best way to know more about one’s personality, i feel like we should use both cuz its more complete
MBTI is based on the letters, though. It's a system derived from the cognitive functions, so it's deterministic in nature. Instead of the functions determining your letters, it's the letters that determine your functions.
@@vivaleroca7511 but the functions do determinate your letters? all I've read about mbti that isn't 16p puts the functions above the letters. an intj is an intj because they use the stack NiTeSiFe, not the other way around.
@@9990zara if you've seen the MBTI tests and descriptions, they all type you according to four dichotomies, not functions. I'm saying that MBTI is a system that determines your cognitive functions, but cognitive functions are concepts that Jung created separately from and prior to MBTI.
Edit: Don't misunderstand me. The ideal setup would be the cognitive functions dictating your type (i.e., you prioritize Ne = ENxP). However, if you check the officially licensed MBTI tests on the internet used by practitioners (take note: MBTI tests are different from cognitive functions tests), they're typing you according to 4 letters before presenting to you your function stack, therefore, making it deterministic in nature. Say, you're an ENFP according to the MBTI test but you so happen to be a stronger Fe and Ti user (Ne-Fe-Ti-Si stack). Does that make you any less of an ENFP? Are you by definition an ENTP? Yes, ENTP would coincide with your function stack, but you prioritize your feeling over thinking that it's counter-intuitive to be labeled a thinker.
The point is that I'm not wrong when i say that MBTI determines your cognitive functions, but I'm also saying that this setup is deterministically flawed, so it's not worth boxing yourself in these 4 letters. Instead, learn about the cognitive functions that define your daily decisions and learn from them.
i would like to add mbti is not only about processing (gathering+organizing) information, as those are only for Si, Ne, Se, Ni. it’s also how we connect with others as well as what we place our identity on, which are done by Te, Fi, Ti, Fe.
I'm a 9w1, too. I used to hate it, thinking I was weak or boring. I see now the beauty of being a peacemaker, and I grew to really love my type. 🥰
9w1 squad let’s go! I kinda agree, really wanted to be a 1 cuz they’re more just useful to society, but I like being able to relax
"The Enneagram doesn't put you in a box, it shows you the box you put yourself in and how to get out."
Bruh. So good. This is easily one of the most grounded, informative, and entertaining videos I've seen on the Enneagram. I studied it a lot when I was working on my Psych degree. It's cool to see it slowly gaining traction, but for the most part, I've seen it more akin to horoscopes when being described by other channels.
"You are THIS or you are THAT. THIS is how you behave under THAT circumstance."
So I really liked the comparison of the different Nine's. I always looked at healthy levels, growth direction, and wings as the main cause for the difference of people within the same types. But I really liked your explanation of those 3 sub groups within the types.
When you explained reading about the 9 and how you reacted was exactly how I was when I first read about Six. It was like reading a self description of my inner self. And like you said about the box, the acknowledgement of areas within myself that im more prone to stumble allowed me to be able to work on them. (Conquering fears, trusting others, inward support vs external, etc). That's where I've found the Enneagram the most helpful.
Also in learning the types of those closest to me to better support them. Knowing my partners type allows me to love them in the way that's catered specifically to them. (Sort of like the different love language).
Anyway, all that to say, excellent job! Looking forward to more!
6w5
Hey, 6w7 here!
Hi! I was wondering... As you have a Psych Degree, was delving into psychoanalytics like the Enneagram encouraged? I was under the impression because it is not backed up by science, it shouldn’t be studied in a psychology course. I really hope that I am wrong because I feel the Enneagram is so insightful and transformative!
Hey! This was actually quoted from Ion Morgan Cron :)
a very good but not an original phrase. so many people have said this.
This is one of the most simplified, in depth video on the enneagram that I’ve ever seen. As a 5, who has over researched this, I knew all this before, but instead of me having to explain all this to people when I talk about it, I’ll just now send them this.
In short, enneagram is more about the person's internal fears, desires and motivations
Edit: INFJ 9w1 so/sx 952 RLOAI Melancholic-Phlegmatic LEVF TiSe III-/NiFe I-II/SeTi II-I (Vultology)
If only we had a cognitive functions equivalent of this video.
His great advice on approaching enneagram is so ironic considering how he misjudges MBTI. If only he learned of cognitive functions
what personality tests are the RLOAI and LEVF from?
@@chococookie2181 rloai is big 5 and levf is attitudinal psyche, they are both typology systems
@@tunna_ Thank you!
Nice, I'm INFJ 6w5 sp/so 692 RLOAI Phlegmatic-Melancholic LEVF :)
when i found out that i was an entj i was like "yeah cool it's so me" but when i discovered enneagram and read the things about type 3 i literally cried
Yes, I definitely had a similarly deep experience with the enneagram, though also relate to my Myers Briggs type.
I like how the advice section for type 4 can be summarized as "please go outside and touch some grass"
I hate how accurate that is. I’m a type 4 pretty sure and I go on hikes whenever I get too depressed.
lol i'm 4w3 and it's accurate though. unfortunately.
That’s way too specifically accurate 🥲
I’m an author and use the enneagram to help me write characters. It’s super useful for me since I have a lot of trouble understanding personalities, I would highly recommend it. I’ve even based the magic system on what type you are! (8s have barriers that can protect themself but if they let someone inside the barrier to protect them too, they’re extra vulnerable to them, 9s are physics who can look into other’s thoughts and memories but if they aren’t careful they can end up loosing part of themself, stuff like that!)
Is there a way we could read your books?
That sounds so sick. I, too, would love to read your stuff!
I'd like to hear about your magic system.
@@victorychibuzo1303 Yeah! The first two I’ve made I’m not planning on sharing with anyone but right now I’m working on another book that’ll be posted to Tapas for free. My account name is The_Syzygy_Epoch if you want to read it when it’s out :)
I’m also posting a weekly webcomic on that account (same universe, same magic system) but fair warning, I started it when I was kinda young so the first 20 or so pages are not exactly the most high quality work I’ve done
@@ruthwalker2448 Aw, thank you! I explained where you can find my stuff in another reply :)
Maybe MBTI isn’t for everyone, but 16 personalities is not real MBTI.
It’s a good place to start, though. Getting multiple types from 16p and researching them in depth helped me to figure out my actual type
I have a question, can I have between two or three of the 16 personalities at the same time? because I have investigated a lot about them but I find myself rotating between the three in my daily life.
@@user-xq9cx9ky9m no, you only have one type. cognitive functions
It pushed me to do more research about MBTI but then again I do that with everything 😭🤚
psychology on seattle podcast has an episode or two about mbti, it was very informative imo so I recommend it.
Pov: you know the functions and you start inner screaming when he talked about mbti.
yes 😩 16 personalities gave it such a bad name, i hate it so much
IT PAINED ME
blame it on 16 personalities…
Pls, I saw that website....... 🙃
PAIN
Josh - I am genuinely impressed. As someone who has “formal” training in the Enneagram and who uses that training extensively as part of my job description, I think you have done a better job presenting the basic material in less than 15min than I have done in a 1/2 day training. Seriously. Well done. Thank you!
My only addition would be that in my experience, finding the right type can feel both vulnerable AND inspiring - not simply embarrassed and/or depressed. 😂 However, I agree that when we do find what resonates, we usually feel like someone has climbed inside our psyche!
How can you have a formal training in pseudoscience
@@JakeMGolle there’s books and classes taught about the enneagram, there’s no like college degrees on the enneagram but you can def take some classes on it. I’m guessing that’s what he meant my former training
Yes excellent point. I used to mention it to people I meet and noticed how many seemed intimidated by the possibility of better understanding themselves (or others), while a few were genuinely intrigued... to this day. I was just naive about defenses 👽
@@JakeMGolle Enneagram theory goes back several decades and there are several formal certification programs that are excellent and provide nuanced training on how to help people understand their type and use it as a tool for self-development. It is not pseudoscience.
I like that ideology as I feel the same when searching for my type.
I really appreciate the realistic and accurate way you're introducing enneagram to people. You aren't making it more than it really is, and you aren't oversimplifying anything about it, while still making it digestable and easy to understand for newcomers.
Well said and I agree
I am a huge fan of the enneagram. And I am also a big fan of MBTI. I think the issue that people have with MBTI stems from the fact that most people only know the version that they find on 16 Personalities. That's such a remedial tool - both the test and the descriptions. I always tell people to stay away from that site. If you want to truly have a better understanding of MBTI, you need to look at functions, which explain that, actually, you aren't one or the other - you just have cognitive preferences. And because they are just cognitive preferences, and not simple leanings one way, there is a wide spectrum of behavior and expression. It explains why you might be having trouble in certain areas of your life, and how to get out of these "loops". A very useful tool for yourself and others, just like the enneagram, and I think if you can utilize both, you can get far in terms of understanding how people work and how they are motivated.
Neither tests are rigid if used correctly.
YES I love this explanation. Also, the temperaments help a lot in determining one's type, so when I've questioned mine I went back to the idealist description and knew I could not be anything other than an xNFx. INFP 497 here:)
You saved my time in writing
YES i wish 16 personalities was banned
@@eclipseonmars me too
Exactly. I’ve found typing myself to be extremely helpful. The catch is that it requires a lot of dedication and study to type yourself correctly (and thus for it to be of any real use).
This is an amazing breakdown. I’m also a fellow 9w1 and for years have been mistyped as a 2, because I was raised by a family of 2’s and 3’s and took on their energy of what to do and how to act, then in college up until early adulthood was mistyped as a 6, because I was a 9 in stress and had to know every detail before acting, felt like I was constantly walking on eggshells and moved into paranoia or full on action mode all of the time. Now that I know that I’m a 9, it feels right and I realize that all of my anxiety was triggered by not fitting in and wanting peace at all costs, so I twisted myself into what people wanted to achieve that peace. The Enneagram is an amazing tool. I’m a wing 1, so I’m looking forward to the other videos but I know that perfectionist streak hits hard lol. Thanks again x✨
The Enneagram is super useful and sometimes I pair it with MBTI to get a deeper meaning. However, 16 personalities isn't valid and instead of looking at MBTI as a box look at it as preferences because we all have a little bit of each letter in us! It's also better to read on the Jungian cognitive functions instead! 😁
Though I agree with your sentiment, I would find 16 personalities accurate for anyone who does NOT want to go through an arduous process to figure out their type. MBTI is already complicated, even with accurate ways to type. Also please consider that no everybody necessarily cares for accurate info like you do. Believe it or not but some people take these tests for fun or simple insight. It is only if they want to learn more in depth that they would.
@@LOVESICKBOY224k but it is annoying when this people spread misinformation or type characters wrong on personality database
Y’all should listen to Atlas: Enneagram by Sleeping at Last
that had me crying HARD (9)
Yes! That’s the other way to discover your type: which song makes you cry. 😭
Yep. "Three" got me good: "I finally see myself through the eyes of no one else"
YES I love Eight more than the other songs though, even though I'm a two lol
I love mine
I would love to see more examples of each type as healthy and unhealthy. As a 4, I’m bored with how my type is mostly portrayed as moody, slightly dark, etc. 4’s can be fun, playful, healthy, and organized too.
I feel that enneagram is most helpful when combined with each of our MBTI types for personal growth. The way he described MBTI in the video was not accurate at all, for it delves deep into theories such as the temperaments and cognitive functions which is much more helpful in understanding how we may perceive the world, make decisions, and behave. For example, an ENFP type four is likely not going to fit into the stereotype of fours being moody, dramatic, and selfish (though they could while unhealthy, but their natural demeanor of an ENFP is likely bubbly and joyful).
Tara Wagner Coaching I think he’s going to release a video for each type. He made a passing mention of it in the intro.
I personally think Amelie Poulain is a healthy 4 and she has all those characteristics. I have healthy 4s in my life and they are amazing people
@@elisabethlinsinbigler omg what I'm a 4w3 and I'm an enfp 😭 what does that mean
@@jenniferliu158 I'm a 4w3 enfp too (honestly an enxp because I really see myself in both)
Seems like enfp's are very common with 4's
The accuracy of the traits of a 4 are scary, whilst I have heard that enneagrams are scientifically incorrect, I think they do have benefits as the compatibility of traits to people are oddly specific and true for the people I know
I read the type 4 description, expecting a blanket description that could be relatable to anyone, but I was screaming the whole read, I never read something that described me so much.
The enneagram definitely has practical value in the personal development and coaching space. The evidence is in the results!
@@fionamarcotte2810 “could be relatable to anyone” uhhhh not rlly mate 😭
It's called subjective validation, or the barnum effect. It's why these things seem oddly specific and true to you.
@@JakeMGolle lol
I've been studying the Enneagram for almost 7 years now and this is one of the BEST videos explaining the E-types for beginners; I will sharing this with so many people because I have gotten so MUCH awareness, healing & insight from The Enneagram.
"You'll know you've found your type when the description makes you feel uncomfortable and embarrassed." -- LOL, best description of the Enneagram I've ever heard 😂
As a type 6 myself, I think I speak for all of us when I say.... *Takes deep breath*
AHHHHHHHHHH
Accurate
As a 6, yes
I totally agree
I hate being a six. I'm tired of the anxiety and as a one on one the relational stress is exhausting me.
@@martincronje5242 I know the feeling - it can feel like you're in a washing machine continuously spiralling. But hang in there, find what works for you and set boundaries to people who trigger it in you. I know I've had to.
Type 1- 3:26
Type 2- 3:54
Type 3- 4:25
Type 4- 5:00
Type 5- 5:27
Type 6- 6:00
Type 7- 6:38
Type 8- 7:11
Type 9- 7:37
Am I the only one that loves tritypes? They weren't even in this video, but I feel as if they might be even more significant than your wing. A tritype is when you find which weakness you have on an instinctual level, and emotional level, and a mental level.
For example, I'm a 4w3, but also greatly relate to types 8 and 5, and therefore my tritype would be 458.
I love tritypes too! I think it doesn’t get mentioned often (including in this video too) probably because it’s not a widely accepted theory. I think it’s another tool you can use for sure when analyzing personalities
Btw, I’m a 4w3/5 479!
That's a common misinterpretation of MBTI. That's what the test makes it seem like, but the cognitive function stack goes way deeper and is way more complex than what one can learn in a couple of years.
How helpful can a system be if it is so complex that it requires more than 2 years to understand??
@@meoric1 Why do you think a system has to be helpful in order to be cool?
@@sierrafarnum9689 Huh. I had not even considered "cool" as a factor to consider. My assumption is that people seek out this personality systems to better understand themselves and others around them ("helpful"). The MBTI itself claims to be helpful. If it's not, and it's just cool, it might as well be a buzzfeed quiz, something that's just for fun.
@@meoric1 16personalities MBTI uses extroversion vs introversion, intuition vs sensing, to form your MBTI personality which is completely different & inaccurate from actual MBTI. Real MBTI is based on the Jungian theory of cognitive functions such as Fe (extroverted feeling) or Ti (introverted thinking) etc. and it creates a stack of cognitive functions that you use the most based on your answers. Such an example is Ti-Ne-Si-Fe or INTP (where Ti is your dominant function, followed by Ne, you get the idea.) and isn't just an "are you introverted or extroverted" binary
Also it isn't as complicated as Sierra passes it off. You can understand the basics of cognitive functions in a couple days, and if you actually want to study it much more thoroughly for years, then why not. For its helpful aspect, there's things in MBTI called "loops". For example, let's have INTP's function stack Ti-Ne-Si-Fe. INTP can go into what's called an Ti-Si loop where it bypasses its auxiliary function, Ne (extroverted intuition), and goes straight to Si (introverted sensing), and its bad since they detach from the external world and gets stuck with Ti (which is basically analyzing very deeply & thinking internally) and Si (which is basically memory) going back and forth, which is very unhealthy as they get stuck in the past as opposed to if they had Ne as they normally would, which uses the information analyzed from Ti, and use it to find useful ways of moving forward. Learning and understanding these loops helps you avoid it. There are also tons of content out there that help teach you how to get out of these loops. This is super simplified, and reading into MBTI is definitely worth it, if you have the time.
@@joshuukun Thanks for the response!
2021 is a good year: Josh Keefe is back
I knowwww
John Kreese*
so is Bill wurtz
YESSSSS
This is the most comprehensive and shortest video I’ve ever seen of the enneagram. Nice job on all the work you put in.
I’m also a 9 and it gave me the language to communicate my inner self to others and myself.
This is my favorite take on the enneagram. I love using a combination of this and MBTI together for helping to understand better how people think and function differently from me.
Omg Josh - I have been studying the Enneagram for about 4 years, am a certified Enneagram Coach, and regularly use the Enneagram in my marriage and family therapy practice with clients. This is the BEST overview of the Enneagram I've ever seen. Thanks so much. 💖
That's awesome! Who have you gotten your certification through, if you don't mind me asking?
@@saycoach9119 Your Enneagram Coach
No way, I'm a Bullshit Coach, we have so much in common!
Totally agree. A+ presentation!
Hey for anyone out there having trouble identifying themselves: There's a really neat band called Sleeping at Last with a whole album centered around the Enneagram. They have a song for each type.
Go and listen to them. You'll know which type you are when it's song hits.
I found the song before I knew what it meant and I loved the 2. Then later I found out about thr enneagram and found out I was a 2! Now I love the ding even more
Thank you! I had never heard of this, but wow! What a beautiful piece of work they created. :)
What's the album called?
@@somedudeintheinterweb8665 Atlas: Enneagram.
@@somedudeintheinterweb8665 It's called Atlas: Enneagram... Here's the link to the whole playlist: czcams.com/play/OLAK5uy_kg6Nlgy6fS3QAjACGO35Jl8mwm4VX3wUc.html
"The enneagram doesn’t put you in a box, instead shows the box you’ve put yourself in and the way out" That was such a great line! Thanks!
I actually watched this for writting purposes, someone suggested using it to build a character which I see as so helpful now....but also I thought this was such a great video. I felt like all of them were somewhat relatable and it was crap, then you explained 9 and I felt called out, then you explained how they could act like the others for different reasons and I felt super called out, then you got to 9 one on one and I was like OMG I am the guy with the dragon!!!
You definitely helped me understand how it works and showed perfect examples of how they work with characters in a story. I'm going to have so much fun learning about it now and trying to incorporate it in my characters 💙💙💙
This is a great video, but I would like to mention that MBTI isn't just the letters, it's made up of cognitive functions. So let's say you are an INTP on the letter system. You are a dominant thinker, an auxilary intuitive, a tertiary sensor, and an inferior feeler. All of these functions are assigned an introvert or extrovert code.
Introversion isn't social, it's how a function is oriented. An INTP can be very social, yet that dosen't change that they are cognitive introverts. They are internal model builders.
So, their first function would be "introverted thinking, followed by "extroverted intuition," "introverted sensing," and "extroverted feeling."
Another aspect of the theory is how two introverted/two extroverted functions are continuum. So an INTP, despite being labeled intuitive, is actually a thinking-sensor dominant through a sort of TiSi loop, while their auxilary continuum is NeFe.
These function definitions include:
*Ti: Focusing on subjective logical conclusions. Making sure the internal logical world is consistant with itself.*
Si: Focused on personal experience. Precieves based on "tradition," or how certain sensory input feels subjectively to the user.*
Therefore, TiSi would be focused on coming to subjective conclusions through objective means through personal experience and an idea of how something works based on the individual's past.
*Ne: Focused on outward, objective potential. Envisions multiple, overlapping possibilities based on concrete information. Bases all ideas off of the external world*
*Fe: Objectively observes the emotional atmosphere of a situation. Is known for spearheading and influencing social customs and identities.*
Therefore, NeFe would be socially predicting and engaging in the social enviornment in a fast, quickfire way. There's a lot more to the theory than the letters, and I'd be happy to explain more to anyone interested.
You did a really good job explaining Mbti! -INFJ :)
Thank you, I came to the comments to see if anyone explained this. As soon as he said the MBTI thing I was like "Does he know about the cognitive functions?" XD - INTP
im also aware about the cognitive functions but i still think mbti puts you in a box because even though i know about cognitive functions i still feel like multiple types for instance i relate to se alot almost as much as i relate to ne...and some days i feel like esfp other days i feel like entp but at the same time im also a shy person....it almost stresses me out how much i cant figure out my type... idk if that made sense so i hope u understood what i was trying to say
@@gh0stp0rtal09 It mostly makes sense. You have to you remember though that within you, you have all of the cognitive functions. Each of those cognitive functions can be more or less developed so for example, both my Ni and Ne are really well developed, but I’m still definitely an INFJ. Also being an introvert or extrovert has nothing to do really with being shy, it’s where you get your energy from and with cognitive functions, it’s where that function gets it’s information. So if it’s an extroverted one like Se, it gets its information from the external sensory world vs Si because it’s an introverted function, it looks inward into the sensory parts of the body. Hope that helps!
@@gh0stp0rtal09 ENxPs are often socially introverted. Functions are about judgement and perception, not social introversion or extroversion. For example, as an INTP, I'm pretty sociable and outwardly emotional, so you as an ENTP can be very shy and introverted. Not to mention, your dominant function merely focuses onperception, not judgement. Therefore, you are likely to exhibit socially introverted characteristics due to your judgements bej g informed by a cognitively introverted function.
The Enneagram: The Mortifying Ordeal of Being Known
The accuracy hurts lol 😂
...Maybe you're a 4. ;-) (Not that I'd dream of typing someone else!)
Absolutely. The Enneagram exposed not only the fears and weaknesses and behavior patterns I KNEW I had, but also ones I never even recognized. Mortifying is putting it lightly. But I'm a 5, so I still appreciate gaining more knowledge and insight and facts (not stereotypical at all), so I can stand it lol.
That's such a type 5 thing to say!
So accurate. I just found out what type I am yesterday when I started reading the description and suddendly a lot of my motivations, and, fears appear in front of me, even thing I didn't whant to aknowledge or I have forgotten from my childhood. I felt stripped down. I also cried. Now what I need is how to work these things out but is defenitely easier to find a way out when you know where you are.
I've been studying the Enneagram for almost five years, and this is one if the only youtube videos I have seen that does not misrepresent any of it, but rather presents in depth, while still being quite entertaining and easy to understand for those less familiar with it. Very good job. I'll be watching the rest of the series.
The Return of The King
When I first hear about the Enneagram, I was annoyed because all my friends kept saying, “I’m a 8 so that means...” or “you’re definitely a 4 because...” and they wouldn’t shut up about it. They kept nagging me to take a test online and I did....three times....I got a 2, 6 and a 7. I came to the conclusion that the enneagram wasn’t helpful but just another way to box others in. (Honestly, I was more annoyed with the enneagram because of my friends)
BUT, after watching your video, I’m starting to see why the Enneagram was made. I didn’t even know about the subtypes within each number. I’m interested in learning more in depth about this tool and how it works. Also as a lover of film and diving into in-depth character and worlds, I would love to see how certain movie characters embody these types.
Thanks for helping me get a better understanding! I’m glad it’s helped you
I feel the same about zodiac, there’s sun signs and moons signs as well as natal charts and ascending/descending.... basically astrology was a real knowledge and science practiced around the world but too many teens and young adults these days just box people into stereotypes like “aries are wreckless” then make dumb ig posts, tbh it’s fucking annoying and it made it hate the zodiac even though I was so interested in it
Omg this video is an absolute MASTERPIECE!!! You were so incredibly succinct in describing the overall purpose and value of the enneagram as well as each type in a short time. Enneagram has also deeply impacted me and facilitated some life changing revelations as well. Thank you for all your hard work into putting this video together!!
We worked with the enneagram at work and I've absolutely loved it! I'm excited to see the rest of the videos in this series!
Okay but as a 4w5 seeing so many other 4w5's made me simultaneously super happy and insecure asf lolll
that's the most mistyped enneagram tho
My wife, sister, and cousin are all INFP-4 😄
@@mamelukkikala4733 wdym?
@@mamelukkikala4733 god im so tired of this.
no one on the internet can be an infj or 4w5 because they're automatically mistyped 👺
@@donniebelladonna4512 guyyyyyy this!!!!💁🏽♀️😓😓😓
This is the best enneagram explanation I've *ever* come across, I feel like crying
Maybe you’re a type 4 lmao cuz same
@@ChloeDuvall I'm actually a 6 hahah
SP 9w1 here! I love the enneagram! After discovering it and reading into my type specifically I finally truly felt heard and understood, along with the rough reality shocks you mention. I try and get my friends to learn their enneagram both so I can get to know them on a deeper level but also I think everyone can learn a thing or two whether they choose to go super deep into it or not.
I've been obsessed with the enneagram for a while now and this is by far the best breakdown I've ever seen. So well done-- I'll definitely be sharing with friends who I want to thrust the enneagram upon!
I'm a Type 5W6 (according to an online test and it suited me) and i'm looking forward to your video on it!!!!
Oh and everyone: Sleeping at Last has a song on each type (One - Nine) so if you're having trouble figuring out ur type, go listen to all their Type songs and see which one makes you cry the most!!
Where did you take the test?
FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO ALSO RECOGNIZES THE SLEEPING AT LAST ENNEAGRAM ALBUM
Oh man, I've listened to some songs from that album, didn't realize they were tied to ennegram numbers!
Oh my god I love all of his music, but his enneagram album hits DEEP!
5w6 here too!
Awesome, one of the best introductions I've seen to Enneagram, and it really put it into the right context to not look at it too obsessively or believe it's putting people into boxes. As an 8w7 it really helped me recognize both the things I was doing when I felt insecure, which it captured to a tee, as well as what strengths I suppressed because of the way I was raised and grew up. I'm a pretty skeptical person, but the Enneagram is one of the few things that freaked me out and annoyed me when I first went through it, but now I am really grateful I've discovered it.
This is amazing! I’ve just gotten into the enneagram this past year and these types of videos are so fun and helpful to watch. Im so excited to watch all this series 🤩
12:30 except MBTI doesn’t work that way, the 16personalities test is an amalgam of big five and MBTI, what MBTI is really about is cognitive functions, but I do agree in terms of having enneagram as a very useful system (I’m an INTJ 5w4), also I really hope you can look up MBTI cognitive functions and make another video about how to associate characters with the functions they use
it bothers me so much that people have such a simplistic view of MBTI like nooo, arguably it dives just as deep as the enneagram. MBTI is so helpful and fun:) Greetings from an INFP 497, 4w5
@@elisabethlinsinbigler its because of 16 personalities and their test that people don't trust mbti. It makes sense tbh to distrust mbti when you only know about 4 dichotomies. I think when people start knowing about cognitive functions they do think its more valuable then what they thought of it as first
Lol same haha
im an INTJ 8w7
INTJ 7w8
In uni i had to take this screenwriting class and we wrote characters based on the enneagram. It was really helpful.
Im in a screenwriting class rn and i think the enneagram will help me write it
character writing is the reason i watched this video
I've been studying the enneagram for five or six years now and this is the best overview video I have seen!! So complete and easy to follow! Great job Josh!! As a 3W2 SP it has been a blessing to realize I don't have to work non-stop!!
ANYTHING you are passionate about enough to try to educate and do good with is NOT stupid. Thank you for sharing this with us ✨
WARNING
Ok so I'm gonna watch this series because I love the idea and my guy seems to have done his homework. But word of warning...
I got into enneagram last year too and became obsessed. It was not good.
The system clearly works for some people and I don't doubt it's helped a fair amount. But there is a possibility to be carried away and it's hard to forget about it.
Maybe my response to the whole thing is just because of my type. But what I'm saying is proceed with caution. If you start identifying yourself with a type, even if it's a sub type with a wing etc. This in and of itself is no guarantee to help.
You can always make new problems for yourself that don't have to exist. When doing research it's hard to find a type you don't identify with on some level.
It's a fun idea for a series, like I said. It's also fun doing the test and seeing who you are like and 'ohh look I'm just like my favourite musician, actor, etc'. But just be careful and don't get carried away like I did:)
Cause when it comes down to it, I did a fair amount of research into this system and the hardest part was not something I uncovered but realising I needed to stop.
This is so important to keep in mind when working with personality systems!! Thank you!! Don't ever let them put you in a box. What I love about the enneagram is that the whole theory revolves around becoming less like your type in order to grow as a person. When used in that way it can be very insightful and helpful for personal growth. It can definitely become a problem though if you turn it into an obsession. Thanks for sharing!!
@@Josh_Keefe I think I had similar problems with the MBTI. When I discovered the functions, it really took off for me. I was a bit obsessed. I did get bored and leave it and come back a couple times but I think it came around and was useful again. I was reading about internal family systems therapy and how our personalities tend to be naturally fragmented into different coping strategies that interact with each other. Basically they're tools we develop that can hurt us if we're unbalanced and let them take over our lives. In the book, the fragments were described and it hit me. These are functions. And later I heard a podcast about MBTI and they talked about how while type is good for identifying yourself, the goal is to go beyond type. Not that you're going to change your core person but if you're conscious of when you're using the coping strategies / fragments / functions, instead of just letting them control you / being stuck in your type, you'll be able to use them to your benefit.
Yes! Same warning can be found in the MBTI-sphere. A tool like MBTI or Enneagram cannot know you better than you know yourself.
I think we're better off when we decline to identify with labels - and instead treat them as descriptors that apply to some greater or lesser degree.
Similarly with political parties: over-identifying as an adherent of one party can cause you to lose part of your "self" in a sense, as you adopt party opinions to make the identification more true.
Sounds like youre a 5w6 or 6w5
@@clarabrarurerr2065 me?
I took a personality strengths and training class, and she assigned us different enneagram types to summarize for eachother, she gave me 4, I still think that was on purpose, I hated reading about it lmao, like squirming in my seat, I know it's not meant to be 100% accurate, but the book I was reading even mentioned certain albums and music the author (as a 4) listened to and it was like 👁️👄👁️ spot on, terrible and painful. Then when I shared with my therapist how helpful it had been making me realize a lot about myself, she chose to stress that it's not scientific and not to put too much faith in it. Which I personally don't believe I was, it had just taught me a lot about myself and I was excited to share about it. Personality tests are so stigmatized but if it helps someone become healthier and better? Why would you take the credit out of it? And ridicule them for using unconventional means for self realization? The enneagram and that personality class honestly helped me realize who I am, I was incredibly lost and confused, but that class helped us learn how to identify our flaws and strengths, and how to work with them. I think I wouldn't have realized who I am until I was much older. It's insane how much the enneagram showed me about myself
I agree! & Woah, which book depicted types by their music interests?
Hands down most comprehensive summery explaination of the ennegram I've seen! Seriously, good work. I look super forward to seeing the whole series whenever it's completed :)
Thank you for making this, I’ve never heard it explained so well, and I’m excited to see what you do with the movie characters.
It's always satisfying to see myself put in the same box as Gandalf
I’ve found that incorporating ones Enneatype with their MBTI typing helps in formulating a more complete design of ones psyche. The enneatype is the liquid poured through the MBTI filter. For instance my Sx/Sp 9w1 shines through my INFP (Fi-Ne-Si-Te) lens and extending to even our shadow functions. It helps in understanding the detrimental nature of ones enneatype based fears and how they present in the inferior and shadow functions of MBTI to truly challenge those fears and promote growth. Also awesome job on this video! You explained everything thoroughly and succinctly, which is very hard to do with such hefty subject matter.
Thank you for the book recommendation. insanely powerful when used in conjunction with The Power of Now. On the journey to overcome past traumas and reach previously unimaginable heights!
I love your series on the enneagram and movie characters. As a therapist and enneagram enthusiast, your work is such a great resource. Keep up the great work. I am hoping for more in the near future!
adding onto this, if youre wondering why some characters seem vastly different despite having the same core type there is a theory that complicates things called tritypes. this engages each triad of the enneagram. im a 2w3 sx/so but i still act vastly different than other 2s (not only because of instinctual variants) but also because of the extra spices with how i deal with my body and mind triad. as a 285 I am more blunt hardheaded and flamboyant than lets say your 296. just something to consider -- also fantastic video! was really excited to see how in depth you went with the basic enneagram theory.
i was looking for a tritypes / instincts comment because while i have been using the enneagram for a few years, i only started reading more about tritypes and instincts (and figuring out my stacking) during the pandemic last year. it was (and still is) such a journey of figuring myself out. i love that it adds more nuance to the already rich world of the enneagram!
I like this video, but mbti goes beyond just intro-extro/ thinker-feeler. There are levels to it as well which get at the heart of it. They're called function stacks and like enneagram there are interplays between them that promote growth and inhibit it, they are similar in some fundamental principles. But yes this was very insightful ty.
From what I can tell I'm a 4w5, awesome! The more I read about it, the more I feel like I'm finding out about myself, and what I can do to improve. Many thanks for directing me to this wonderful rabbit hole!
This is literally so good. I'm waiting with anticipation for more of these. Will be sharing this with my entire life coaching class.
Same! Can't wait for the 4 and 5 vids especially :]
i have never more understood when i saw the core fear of type 4, never felt soo understood in my life
I’m a 4 and I totally called that Ladybird was gonna be a 4 😂😂 I resonated with her so hard
While reading each description including their 'integration' and 'disintegration', etc, I felt the most 'attacked' while reading type 5 - then wing 6 really drove it home. My family decided to discuss these with each other and we had some great introspective conversations.
I'm an INFJ going by 16 personalities, and I'm certain that I am also a highly sensitive person. I've found the best picture for who I am by looking at different personality types, so I fully agree that these are tools to help us understand ourselves, rather than categories to box ourselves into.
Thanks for the thoughtful video, Josh!
this was so well done, thank you!! I love how you used the movie characters, makes it a lot more accessible!
THIS WAS SO WELL DONE!! 🎉 can’t wait for the full series! (Please include Avatar the Last Airbender characters!)
I think Aang is a 7w6. Left to his own devices, he seeks out new experiences, is spontaneous, and an entertainer. He demonstrates "look at me" and "running away" from conflict.
@@tesswinker2482 interesting take! I always viewed Aang as a 9w1, generally seeking peace but also having a very strong moral compass and sticking up for what is right when it “matters”
I have also thought of Katara as a 1w2. Very rigid about what the “right” thing to do is but also falls into that caretaker role.
@@briannairene185 Makes sense!
@@briannairene185 I think part of the peace seeking and morality is due to his upbringing. (He's a monk, after all.) When left to his own devices, Aang is optimistic, enjoys exciting new adventures, and loves to share.
I am deeply impressed with how deeply you dive into the Enneagram! It is great that you look more into the different aspects of it, because without those I think it comes off as more 2D and inaccurate. However, I feel that the same can be said about MBTI. 16 personalities is not great and doesn't follow cognitive function stacking. I would recommend looking into that more if you are interested! Super fascinating and I also found it to be just as accurate!
Thank you for posting this. As someone who also discovered the enneagram around the same time you did, it's been such a wild ride learning (and lowkey obsessing, blame the fact I'm a SO dom 4w5. I need to understand myself LOL) about this stuff.
Its been exhausting seeing all the luke warm takes on CZcams and the way people misconstrue and even demonize the types, so seeing you having done your research and being so charitable to each of them was honestly really exciting and relieving.
I thoroughly look forward to this series and would suggest that if you haven't, reading up on Russ Hudson, as he both has a Twitter where he went over the instinctual variants of the types as well as a book called the Wisdom of the Enneagram he wrote with someone else, idr anymore, that I personally found more enlightening than Beatrice's work! Just a personal preference as someone who owns both books, whatever you do I am excited to see where you go with this and subscribed immediately!
Also, separate from the above, I think your hair is very nice :3
I am extremely thankful for doing this for those of us who are interested in getting to know ourselves better you are such a blessing!!!!! Great job!!!!!!!!
The enneagram was soooo helpful to me. I'm a One-to-one 1w2. Reading the description of 1's (for the test that I did), the first words were "Ones are idealists". In that moment so much of my life clicked into place. I recognised how so much of my world revolved around this perfect picture in my head and why I was constantly feeling dissatisfied with everything (because it wasn't living up to that ideal picture). Being given the framework and the dialogue to be able to navigate how I behave has really helped me come a long way - I can now identify when my ambitions are becoming too lofty, I can reduce the expectations I put on others, I can give myself credit for a project even if it didn't meet the picture in my head.
The CZcams algorithm really knows what I like to see
Thank you for sharing your experience and your knowledge in such a vulnerable and thoughtful way. This is something special. I hope you are able to complete your project as time allows. This was just what I needed!
Thank you! You review it really efficiently. There are a lot of misconceptions about the enneagram. The more informed a person is about it, the more they can see the expansiveness and aid it can provide.
This is hands down the BEST enneagram explanation video I've seen yet! I recently got into the enneagram system after years of being into the MBTI personalities. I found the enneagram's description of the 9 to be far more pointed and accurate than MBTI's description of the ISFJ (my personality types :) ) Great job on this!
This is excellent. I was expecting a lighthearted, shallow run through of a bunch of movie characters...instead I watched one of the best descriptions of the enneagram I've ever seen. I'm excited for the series; the characters you showed for the type 3 hit home already
"Enneagram doesn't put you in a box. It instead shows you the box you put yourself in and the way out."
Absolutely the best breakdown of the enneagram I have seen. Plus using movie characters was brilliant. I would love to see a more detailed breakdown of each number with it's wings similar to your examples you did use. Great Job!!!
Take any Enneagram Personality Test. One tip, just don´t lie to yourself.
I like the Enneagram more than Myers Briggs
It's far superior to MB imho...certainly more dynamic of a system. It gets nicked for not being scientifically proven but if someone has figured out how to understand and document human feelings and emotions using objective terms, I'd love to hear how. The reality is that it can't be done without leaving the subjective realm, therefore it cannot be proven using objective means.
@@walldawg.7355 i mean they’re both two very different things. Depending on if you’re using the dichotomies or cognitive functions for the 16 types. For me, “MBTI”, which I don’t know if it should still be classified as MBTI since it uses the cognitive functions (Ne/Se, Ni/Si, Ti/Fi, Te/Fe) to determine the types, but I guess you know what I mean, tells us how ones cognitive process is (how one perceives the world/makes decisions/etc) and it’s detached from the behaviors, unless you use the dichotomies (e/i, n/s, f/t, p/j) then that’s more on the stereotypical behaviors. I think mbti works well with enneagram since that tells us about the behaviors, but overall, they’re both different, but valid
that's unfortunate
I like seeing them as complementary to each other.
I think such a valuable difference is what Josh mentioned in the video - the enneagram shows you what box you're already in... AND shows you a way out as well!
Sooooooo guess I’m a 2w1 sub one-to-one. Which means I become more of a 4 when I’m in growth and more of an 8 when I’m in stress. Yup. That’s me. This was great Josh! This is my first video of yours and it was so well made. I hope you don’t put too much pressure on yourself to be too perfectionist (we share a wing so I sense a kindred spirit.) you did great, my friend.
I am moved by how well informed you are about this. Most other youtube videos and people in general, out of ignorance of the actual phsycology of the enneagram, treat it like any other Personallity type system. It's often doomed as an anecdotal description of yourself, used as a device to stroke the ego if your false self, which couldn't be farther from it's purpose. It's to teach us who we actually are, instead the game person we've created. I am encouraged to see your learned, refreshing perspective and knowledge of it. keep up the good work👍
This was so well done! And I loved the different spin on typing movie characters, makes for a much more entertaining video :). I discovered enneagram last year and went into a deep dive watching videos about my type specifically (I typed myself as a 9w1, same as you!). You know you’ve found your type when you feel uncomfortable, and it’s so true! Excited to see more of this series.
I started reading up on the enneagram due to your video, and although finally reading The Complete Enneagram didn’t make me cry, it’s opened a huge window of self understanding for me. I was so squeamish reading the parts that seemed to speak directly to me. Thanks, man. This is big.
Thank you! The enneagram is INCREDIBLE and you explained it beautifully.
Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I'm aggregating Symbols I have found useful in my practice (Story Circle, Hierarchy of Needs, 12 Archetypes), and this is one that has always been on the periphery. I'd love to reach out to you in the next couple months and see if we could do a podcast about your studies.
Breathe well tonight.
I’ve been into the Enneagram for almost 4 years now and I absolutely love how you explain as much of it as you could in this video!
The Enneagram has helped me understand why my mom and I were so different while I was growing up and how we were the same in some aspects. (She’s an 8w7 and I’m a 9w8) I will recommend the Enneagram to anyone and everyone who wants to truly know themselves!
I loved the video, but I recommend learning about MBTI by cognitive functions, not by dichotomies. It's a great tool for self-discovery, paired with the Enneagram, Socionics, Big Five, etc (the more, the better, imo). The first time I started reading the experiences of people that share my MBTI type and what was inside their minds, I also cried like you said at the end of the video because I'd never felt so understood before. So, I think it's just as much of a useful tool that can impact a person's life for the better as the one you're presenting here. Much love!
i was gonna say the same thing. this video was great, but i can't help but feel as though he wasn't describing actual MBTI, but rather how one specific website portrays it.
@@artangel1589 Glad to know I was not the only one that noticed!
Yess!!!! please!! I get so sad when people dismiss mbti based on the 16p system bc the cognitive functions are so much better and I find them extremely helpful
@@dangernoodle9961 Exactly, I feel the same! I guess I'm too emotionally invested with MBTI at this point that I want everyone to see its potential, lol
Not sure if there's specific types of people who gravitate towards one or the other. For myself I studied the heck out of the MBTI but never really had a shocking "woah" moment when it described me, in the same way I did for the Enneagram. But also I've never felt like a classical introvert or extrovert, don't really ever get burned out in crowds or groups, and I can stay home reading all day too (I realize it's more than that, but this sort of balance seemed to apply for me in multiple MBTI categories). I agree it still has value and it's best to look at multiple systems and see which ones click though.
Best video on the Enneagram I've seen on CZcams! Well thought out and encourages people to do their own work in self-understanding.
Brilliant! I have studied the enneagram for years and years. You described this spiritual tool better than any other✨👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You've made some of my fav videos on CZcams, glad you're back!!
Amazing editing and clear descriptions of the enneagram friend! I’m so glad this came up as I’ll be sharing it with everyone as a much clearer overview of the enneagram than I often describe.
*I’d love to see a single movie analyzed with the main characters and villains
For what it's worth, I've taken a number of online Enneagram tests, and they do result in roughly the same answer: 5w4. Reading the description of 5 is heartbreaking, and it's so strange for a person who generally feels so alienated, so uniquely messed up, to see their inner conflict elucidated to incisively accurately reflected in a "zodiac" that has only 1/9 chances to get it right. And great job with covering this.
This is the best explanation of the enneagram I’ve ever seen. Amazing job!
Thank you for this series! I’m excited to watch it unfold. I am also a 9 w1 and love learning more and more. You do an excellent job setting this up, very informative and accurate.
I'm excited for the series!! Thanks for all the work you do- it is appreciated and enjoyed.
This was the best description ever I am obsessed
Thank you, Josh! A friend had mentioned enneagrams and I had completely forgotten that I had made a deep study of Enneagrams 40 years ago. Watching this 15 min video back then would have saved me several thousand hours. No surprise that advancement of self-knowledge, transformational introspection, hard fought steps to ascension and liberation in this lifetime are being aided by starseeds like you! Thank you so much. You've made a great contribution!
Love 'n Light best & cheers,
Sean